Deux excusions à Marrakech: la vallée du Zat et Imlil
by Maditis
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour, je part en couple pour un voyage d'une semaine au mois de septembre sur marrakech :)
J'ai besoin d'aide pour préparer ses 2 excursions :)
En effet je souhaite me rendre avec mon amie dans la vallée du zat ainsi qu'à Imlil.
Ses deux excursions seraient le samedi et le dimanche.
Question
n°1 : Est ce moins agréable de faire ses excursions en week end ?
N°2 : Est ce dommage de raté le souk du mercredi du village de tighdouine ?
N°3 Quel moyen de transport me conseillez vous pour me rendre dans la vallée du zat ?
Louer une voiture serait il possible ? Nous voudrions visiter Talatast et voir les sources naturelles :) Y a t'il autre chose à voir ?
N° 4 : De même pour imlil, nous voudrions voir la Kasbah, les cascades, le plateau du kik et s'arrêter au lac takerkoust :)
Louer une voiture pour voir tt cela est il possible :)
Nous voulons de la libertée c'est pour ca que nous voudrions louer une voiture. Le budget étant quand même sérré, nous aurions besoin de vos avis :)
Merci d'avance
Bonjour,
Week end ou semaine meme combat. Le souk de Tighdouine est un souk comme un autre, il est malheureusement devenu l'excursion du mercredi de plusieurs hotels clubs. préferer par exemple mardi à Amizmiz , Ijoukak le mercredi et jeudi à Ouirgane, y'a moins d'autocars. La vallée du Zat, qui est un (superbe) cul de sac, nécessite un 4x4 (je ne me souviens plus jusqu'ou est goudronnée la route, mais notre spécialiste va bientot nous le dire), un retour voiture normale est possible par Azrif et le barrage AitAadel, superbes paysages. Imlil , la seule kasbah que je connaisse est un hotel (un peu pompier) du même nom. Il est très possible dans une même journée , (un peu chargée), avec une voiture de loc ordinaire, par exemple un jeudi de faire une boucle, Takerkoust, Kik, Moulay Brahim, Ouirgane, tourner dans le souk , et manger (au Sanglier qui fume par exemple), revenir en passant l'après midi à Imlil, Tahanaout, Marrakech.
Week end ou semaine meme combat. Le souk de Tighdouine est un souk comme un autre, il est malheureusement devenu l'excursion du mercredi de plusieurs hotels clubs. préferer par exemple mardi à Amizmiz , Ijoukak le mercredi et jeudi à Ouirgane, y'a moins d'autocars. La vallée du Zat, qui est un (superbe) cul de sac, nécessite un 4x4 (je ne me souviens plus jusqu'ou est goudronnée la route, mais notre spécialiste va bientot nous le dire), un retour voiture normale est possible par Azrif et le barrage AitAadel, superbes paysages. Imlil , la seule kasbah que je connaisse est un hotel (un peu pompier) du même nom. Il est très possible dans une même journée , (un peu chargée), avec une voiture de loc ordinaire, par exemple un jeudi de faire une boucle, Takerkoust, Kik, Moulay Brahim, Ouirgane, tourner dans le souk , et manger (au Sanglier qui fume par exemple), revenir en passant l'après midi à Imlil, Tahanaout, Marrakech.
Bonjour.
Pour le zat:
Le goudron s'arrête à larbaa tighadouine;au delà piste en cul de sac jusqu'à ansa accessible uniquement en 4x4.Si c'est à faire en 4x4, éviter le mercredi jour du souk, car croisements très difficiles avec les lands qui transportent les villageois.Le village de potiers 'arbaa talatast' accessible à pied mérite une visite.pour les sources:aucun intérêt d'autant plus que le coin est très mal fréquenté.
quelques idées d'excursions faisables en 1 j.avec une voiture de tourisme:
1-tahanaout(souk le dimanche)-moulay brahim-plateau du kik-lalla takerkoust-amezmiz(souk le mardi)-prendre la route pour azgour, arriver à un croisement prendre la route à gauche(qui passe devant une jolie maison forestière) pour imi n tala et sa source;retour à imizmiz et prendre la route(quelques passages abimés mais sans problèmes) pour ouirgane-assni, puis marrakech.
2-marrakech-assni(souk le samedi)-imlil-prendre la nouvelle route qui mène à tachdirt (superbes paysages)-retour à mlil-asni et prendre une nouvelle route qui rejoint par de beaux paysages la route aghbalou /oukaimeden
2 possibilités:
+aller à l'ouka (y déjeuner) et au retour reprendre la même route par laquelle vous êtes venus;à un croisement de route prendre celle de droite (superbe nouvelle route) qui mène à tahanaout-puis marrakech
+ou au croisement de la route aghbalou/ouka, prendre à gauche la route pour aghbalou ensuite à droite celle de l'ourika et setti fatma puis retour à marrakech.
Personnellement, j'ai une préférence pour l'excursion 2:très beaux paysages et villages.
Bon voyage
larazou
Merci beaucoup à vous deux pour ses réponses :)
Vous m'aidez grandement :)
J'aurais voulu savoir si vous saviez quel était le prix moyen pour la location d'un 4*4 à la journée ? Serais ce plus rentable de louer une voiture jusqu'à la fin de la route goudronée puis de prendre un taxi 4*4 pour la visite de la vallée du zat.
Et je voulais savoir également Larazou, ton excursion n°2 me tente énormément :) Mais le lac takerkoust et le plateau du kik-lala ne sont ils pas des passages obligés ? ne peut on pas les rajouter dans le planning de la journée ?
Et dernière question :) La vallée du zat est elle vraiment à faire ? vous me parlez seulement du village 'arbaa talatast'.
Merci à tous les deux pour votre atention :)
Bonsoir.
Les prix de location de 4x4 qui sont annoncés dans ce forum sont de l'ordre de 1200 dh/j;raoulx pourra vous donner des infos plus précis sur les tarifs de location..
Pour leZat , il n'est pas sûr de trouver une jeep à larbaa pour vous conduire jusqu'à ansa (à env.40 km) via azgour et retour;et ce ne sera pas donné. Par ailleurs larbaa talatast ne se trouve pas sur la piste qui mène à ansa.Par ailleurs si vous voulez y aller par vos propres moyens en louant un 4x4, ce n'est pas évident, surtout si vous n'avez pas l'expérience des pistes très étroites et souvent abimées de montagne.
A mon avis il faut oublier la piste du haut de la vallée du zat.
Vous ne pourrez pas combiner en une journée le circuit du plateau du kik/amezmiz/assni avec celui décrit en 2.
Lien d'une carte au 100000 ° pour visualiser la vallée des zat et le circuit 2, maintenant intégralement goudronné.(imlil/tachdirt-tahanaout/ouka-ouka/assni-aghbalou/setti fatma)
http://0xtqww.blu.livefilestore.com/y1p4Vnt-GmHrHEe9ilnZM4TbkFkbP0_2BgCwZhVk6m5ppEptupde7WipaaHRIJde6m3Wl4lrqOLssp8iyyNLLDKqg/Oukaime
liens pour partage d'images de ma collection pour vous faire une idée des paysages du circuit 2+kik. http://picasaweb.google.fr/razoulatif1/ImlilATachdirt0809?authkey=Gv1sRgCOnL9oze17D42QE&feat=directlink http://picasaweb.google.fr/razoulatif1/TahanaoutKikTakarkoustAssniOukaTahanaout0809?authkey=Gv1sRgCOj10bvfoNC8XA&feat=directlink
liens pour partage d'images de ma collection pour vous faire une idée des paysages du circuit 2+kik. http://picasaweb.google.fr/razoulatif1/ImlilATachdirt0809?authkey=Gv1sRgCOnL9oze17D42QE&feat=directlink http://picasaweb.google.fr/razoulatif1/TahanaoutKikTakarkoustAssniOukaTahanaout0809?authkey=Gv1sRgCOj10bvfoNC8XA&feat=directlink
larazou
Vous êtes vraiment super sur ce forum :)
Merci encore :)
Finalement je pense que moi et mon amie allons choisr de prendre une agence pour l'excursion de la vallée du zat, et une location de voiture pour celle d'imlil.
Le prix pour l'excursion de la vallée du zat est de 40 euros par personne à 2 en voiture.
Trouvez vous cela exessif ?
Cela vaut il vraiment le coût de ne pas partagé la voiture, étant donné que tous les touriste je suppose empreinte les mêmes routes.
J'ai choisi l'agence Maroc en libertée, la connaissez vous ? M'en conseilleriez vous une autre ?
Le trajet qu'il propose est le suivant :
"Départ de Marrakech.
Randonnée à pied par les chemins de muletiers direction Talatast, visite du village et des potiers. Poursuite de la randonnée en contrebas le long de l'Oued vers les sources naturelles, véritable lieu de pèlerinage. Déjeuner chez l'habitant ou près des sources
Retour vers Tighdouine pour reprendre le véhicule direction Marrakech"
Passerions nous à côté de quelque chose ?
Et pour l'excursion à imlil nous aimerins suivre ce trajet :
Départ de Marrakech vers 09h00 en véhicule de tourisme ou minibus. Arrêt à Asni pour visiter le souk du samedi (autre jour, visite de Moulay Brahim) Poursuite vers Imlil. Randonnée d’une heure et demie vers la Kasbah, les cascades et retour par un village perché sur les hauteurs d’Imlil. Repas traditionnel berbère en bord d’oued Retour vers Asni puis route du plateau du kik où d'étonnantes vallées se succèdent. Arrêt au bord du lac de Lalla Takerkoust avant retour vers Marrakech en fin de journée
Est ce difficile à réalisé seul, sans avoir d'expèrience de la route au maroc ?
Merci encore de votre atention
Passerions nous à côté de quelque chose ?
Et pour l'excursion à imlil nous aimerins suivre ce trajet :
Départ de Marrakech vers 09h00 en véhicule de tourisme ou minibus. Arrêt à Asni pour visiter le souk du samedi (autre jour, visite de Moulay Brahim) Poursuite vers Imlil. Randonnée d’une heure et demie vers la Kasbah, les cascades et retour par un village perché sur les hauteurs d’Imlil. Repas traditionnel berbère en bord d’oued Retour vers Asni puis route du plateau du kik où d'étonnantes vallées se succèdent. Arrêt au bord du lac de Lalla Takerkoust avant retour vers Marrakech en fin de journée
Est ce difficile à réalisé seul, sans avoir d'expèrience de la route au maroc ?
Merci encore de votre atention
Bonjour.
l'excursion qui se limite au bas de la vallée de zat, aux alentours de tighadouine, vous pouvez la faire par vos propres moyens sans passer par une agence.
Quant "au haut lieu de pélérinage" c'est "crade" et de fréquentations douteuses.
Pour l'excursion imlil il est préférable à assni de prendre la route pour l'ouka..et retour par celle pour tahanout ou vallée de l"ourika.les paysages et villages sont plus beaux que ceux du plateau du kik(où il n'y a pas de " vallées qui se succèdent"..)
toutes ces excursions vous pouvez les réaliser par vos propres moyens avec une voiture de location par de bonnes routes bien indiquées.
Bon voyage.
larazou
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A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!