je suis en train de regarder pour faire des excursions en une journée depuis Marrakech en août et je m'interroge si celle d'Ait Benhaddou est faisable en une journée en 4x4.
Bon, c'est clair il va faire très chaud et je suis avec des enfants, ça c'est un autre élément à prendre en compte. Je crois que je verrais avec eux une fois à Marrakech mais je voulais déjà savoir si c'est faisable en une journée et est-ce que l'on va passer la journée en voiture et finalement peu de temps sur place ?
Quel est l'intérêt d'un 4x4 pour faire un trajet entièrement goudronné?
4h à l'aller (+2h30 si tu veux aussi faire Télouet) et 4h au retour, sans compter les pauses et arrêts. A toi de voir si c'est faisable. Perso, je ne le ferais pas.
bonsoir
effectivement pas trop d'intérêt à faire le trajet pour 1 journée
en plus il fera très chaud à ait ben haddou
le mieux est de passer la nuit sur place et de visiter le soir ou au matin tôt
il n'y aura personne, les cars des touristes partent en soirée
plusieurs hébergements sympa à prix raisonnables pour 1 nuit
bon voyage
salut,
merci pour la réponse, je pensais que la route n'était pas bonne et qu'il y avait un col difficile à passer, et j'avais pensé au 4x4.
Bonne journée.
C'est l'une des plus belles routes du Maroc (et la plus haute)
Tous les 4 roues y passent sans difficultés. Bien serrer dans les virages entre Zerktoune et Agouim.
Bonjour,
Effectivement, pas besoin de 4x4 pour aller à Ait-Ben Haddou.
Perso, je vous conseillerais d'arriver en fin de journée pour admirer les couleurs du coucher du soleil qui se mélangent à la couleur des roches, et de visiter le ksar le lendemain matin dès 9h00 maxi pour évider les hordes de touristes (par cars entiers).
Vous trouverez des hébergements à prix abordables en dehors du ksar, notamment "l'auberge Tombouctou" par exemple située sur la route de Tamdaght (A Tamdaght belle kasbah + palmeraie à visiter en fin de journée également).
Bon séjour
Je confirme! La plupart des moutons de Panurge rebrousse chemin à Aït Ben Hadou alors qu'il existe un paradis de verdure à 5 km plus loin. Mais sans intérêt pour les trous (ducs, barons) opérateurs (1 heure pour bien visiter et un seul marchand de tapis)
Comme tout le monde le dit , trop fatiguant à faire dans la journée même en partant tôt le matin , prévois une nuit à Ait Benhaddou , c'est un endroit qui vaut le coup d'oeil et comme le dit si bien l'arab2crvis pousses un peut plus loin jusqu'au prochain village ou il y a une petite kasbah en réfection mais ne pas aller plus loin sans 4X4 pour rejoindre telouet , top risqué avec un VL
Cordialement
JC
Jcaud
Un voyage de mille lieues a commencé par un pas ( Proverbe Chinois )
Et pourtant sur la carte, cette route n'est pas signalée comme étant une piste!!!!!
Je ne me suis pas référé à une carte, mais à VF !
De plus, un 4x4 n'est pas seulement destiné à passer dans les pistes, mais aussi à gravir des pentes même goudronnées (ce qui rentre aussi dans la définition, route pas bonne, ou impraticables aux non 4x4).
Je retiens en tout cas d'après les autres commentaires qu'un 4x4 n'est pas indispensable, merci pour l'info.
Merci pour les photos à Larab2Crvis, c'est vraiment très sympa de se balader dans ce petit coin de verdure où, hormis les autochtones, on ne croise.... personne !😏
à quoi sert de se faire fatigué les petits gosse pour voir un village.
il faut quitter la grosse chaleur de marrakech et profiter du sud , surtout la vallée du dades et des roses trés frais , les enfants vont aimez les bignades dans le dades ou le mgoun .
et si uniquement pour une journée pour voir le folklore d'ait bren haddou c'est mieu de rester dans celui de ldjamaa lafna .
oui c'est faisable en une journée mais ca va etre fatiguant pour vous: 6 heures de route: il n'y a pas d'aire de repos et le chemin est difficile.. en plus de la poussiere et du soleil..
au fait l'activité principale d'ait ben haddou est le tourisme qui lui meme se limite a la visite des ighrems (banques de cereales) (j'y ai été, je suis etudiante en architecture et nous avions etudié l'architecture en terre de la region..)si tu es deja a marrakech je te conseille d'aller voir du coté de ouarzazate: on peut y voir la meme chose mais la route est plus agreable et s'est plus interessant
La perle du jour!
Assimilé le village d'Aït Ben Haddou à la place Jamaa El Fna, c'est comme si tu comparais le marché Soleil (à Marseille) au Mont Saint-Michel.
Sans vouloir te vexer (de peur de me voir réduit en cendres), je n'ai jamais vu un seul ighrem dans le village d'Aït ben Haddou(à moins que tu prennes les pièces de stckage dans chaque maison pour des ighrems).
Et puis la route de Marrakech à Ouarzazate est exactement la même (jusqu'au village de Taboriht, à 20 km d'Ouarzazate et 10 d'Aït Benhadou) et il y a bien une aire de repos à Asfalou juste avant l'arrivée au sommet du col de Tichka.
En pyromane que tu es (ce qui est tout à fait respectable comme choix, surtout l'été dans le Sud), j'ai l'impression que tu as trop forcé sur la fumée.
à quoi sert de se faire fatigué les petits gosse pour voir un village.
c'est un peu le but de ma question, est-ce que cela en vaut la peine, mais je me rend compte d'après vos avis que c'est peu jouable, ou alors avec une grande fatique à l'arrivée...🤪
il faut quitter la grosse chaleur de marrakech et profiter du sud , surtout la vallée du dades et des roses trés frais , les enfants vont aimez les bignades dans le dades ou le mgoun .
Cela m'intéresse et me fait poser une autre question.
Est-ce que la vallée du Dades est jouable aller-retour en une journée depuis Marrakech ? est-ce que ça vaut le détour ? je dois me renseigner...
Encore moins la vallée des Roses, c'est 110 bornes de plus qu'Aït Ben Hadou. Le mieux serait de visualiser une carte du Maroc pour que tu te fasses une idée.
Si je peux me permettre : le Maroc se "déguste", il ne se "consomme" pas. Faire la vallée du Dadès ou des Roses "vite fait" serait vraiment dommage car elles méritent plusieurs jours à elle deux, sans parler des gordes du Dadès et du Todra (où là vous serez au frais et où les enfants pourront faire trempette).
Avez-vous si peu de jours devant vous ou tenez-vous absolument à passer le maximum de temps sur Marrakech ??
Nous restons 7 jours sur Marrakech, riad déjà réservé.
Je recherche de belles excursions sur 1 jour autour de Marrakech, je suis tombé sur Aït BenHaddou à 160 km (?) (belle endroit sur photos..) et cherche des renseignements.
C'est clair que 160 km en Europe c'est 1h30 sur autoroute, mais de ce côté, je connais pas. Au Laos, on a fait 300 km en 12 heures (sans les enfants)...dur....
J'ai fais la vallée de l'Ourika en étant jeune avec des amis, je retournerai prochainement avec la famille mais je recherche autre chose et effectivement, je ne veux pas forcément "consommer", genre 1 - 2 heures sur place, je suis encore en mode investigation.
Si j'allais seul, ce serait une autre histoire, mais les enfants sont assez jeune, donc je dois prendre en compte ces paramètres, fatigue, transport, chaleur etc...
Bon, je vais encore consulter la carte de la région mais si il y en a qui ont des idées, je suis preneur.
Dans ce cas vous avez la possibilité d'aller sur la côte Atlantique à Essaouira (environ 180 km et 2h30 de trajet), dans l'Atlas à Imlil par Asni (environ 70 km), ou encore les cascades d'Ouzoud.
Bon séjour
OUI , quand tu fait toute la vallée d'ounila +village ait ben haddou c'est vraiment bien .
Mais quand tu fait toute la route de marrakech jusqu'au Tabourahte et puis faire les 10 km pour voir une ruelle des commerçant comme à mont saint michel ; c'est vraiment àune visite folklorique...
Je compte me rendre au maroc a meknes par voiture le mois 10 mais je dois faire des allers retours pour le travailpar avion je sais que je peux laisser ma…
Je souhaite faire une ascension du M'goun vers la fin du mois juillet, en partant d'azilal. j'aimerai bien que quelqu'un me décrit brièvement le trek dont je…
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Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.