Pour info et que l'on arrête de dire que les européens font monter les prix sur Marrakech.
Mon propriétaire MAROCAINS, fait passer mon loyer de 8000dhms/mois à 15000 dhms/mois à Guéliz. (Après mon départ). Maison correcte mais vétuste sans grand confort.
QUI SONT LES PIGEONS ?
VIVE LE PARTAGE DES RICHESSES AU MAROC.
Oui, je suis daccord avec toi, c'est un coup de gueule exageré!!! de 8000 à 15000?????????!!!!!
Mais si tu comptes rester plusieurs mois à Marrakech, je te conseil de ne pas rester à Guéliz, c'est cher....y'en a pas mal d'appart dans autres endroit, qui sont pas vraiment luxe, mais on peut y vivre ....
J'ai oublié, cette maison se louait 4000dhms en 1998, jusqu'en 2002. (il n'y a pas eu d'amélioration, ni piscine, ...).
historique :
1998 2002 : 4000dhms
2002 2006 : 7000 dhms
2006 2008 : 8000 dhms
2008 200x : 15000 dhms, peut être.
si, c'est vraiment les européens qui font monter les prix, ex : ton proprio, marocain, profite de couillons français, parce qu'il en trouvera toujours même à 15000 dhs, pour louer ça baraque c'est simple, le pire dans tout ça c'est qu'il va rapidement trouver à louer après toi même à se prix a targa il y a des maisons à plus de 20000 dhs, devine qui est le proprio et le loueur ton proprio surf sur la vague, parce que ça sent le fric facile, comme tous
ça je me doute qu'il va trouver, il y a 2 personnes qui la veulent, mais on ne savait pas encore le prix, et je suis d'accord, il y a que des couillons d'européens qui pourront la prendre.
Dire que j'ai loué ma maison toute neuve avec piscine, "chauffage", en france sur bordeaux, moins chère parce que j'avais honte d'être trop chère.
ça je me doute qu'il va trouver, il y a 2 personnes qui la veulent, mais on ne savait pas encore le prix, et je suis d'accord, il y a que des couillons d'européens qui pourront la prendre.
Dire que j'ai loué ma maison toute neuve avec piscine, "chauffage", en france sur bordeaux, moins chère parce que j'avais honte d'être trop chère.
normale, tu étais pas encore marocanisé, maintenant oui, donc tu sauras mieux louer ta maison 😛
1998 2002 : 4000dhms
2002 2006 : 7000 dhms
2006 2008 : 8000 dhms
2008 200x : 15000 dhms
ça c'est pour que les gens est une idée de l'évolution sur Marrakech.
Moi je pars.
Dans d'autres quartier je pense que cela sera moins important.
La proximité du lycée français joue énormément pour la clientèle française. (500m).
S'ils ne louent pas les propriétaires vendent pour remplacer les villas par des imeubles à 5 étages. (prix 5M de dirhams le terrains de 700m2). Ils jouent facile, car se sont des villas qui leur ont été données par le roi.
Tu sais, je viens de voir sur un site d'annonces immoblières un "riad" (en gros une grande maison avec piscine et jardin, 190 metre carré de surface habitable), à Tazzarine, en vente pour 6 millions et demi de dirhams :)
Maintenant je te rassure, il y a aussi des propriétaires qui sont obligés de baisser leurs prétentions au bout d'un certain temps. Peut être que la tienne aura de a chance, mais ton coup de gueule, il est à poussé contre les gens qui ont la bêtise d'accepter ces prix. Pas contre ceux qui en profitent :)
Il y a juste un détail c'est que les européens arrivent avec un pouvoir d'achat supérieur et sont des pigeons trop faciles (il y a des quartiers invivables pour des modes de vie trop différents d'où la facilité de coincer les gens )
C'est surement vrai, aussi, dans le monde entier.
Ce qui me dérange c'est que certains devraient reconnaitre que la faute est partagée par les profiteurs et les pigeons et que le mal pour la "population local" n'est pas que à cause des français hier, maintenant des anglais et demain .....
En fait tu as deux sortes de "profiteurs", les gros, les grands intermédiaires marocains, qui font encore plus d'argent, et que les marocains mettent bien dans le même sac. Et les autres, qui sont simplement là à profiter du pigeon, comme tu dis.
Maintenant, en gros, tu demandes à ta proprio de s'asseoir sur la possibilité de 8.000 dirhams mensuels de plus, par "honnêteté", alors que de son côté, sa vie à Marrakech augmente, qu'elle a un mal fou à trouver des taxis, par exemple, parce que maintenant ils ne veulent plus travailler que pour les européens qu'ils plument plus facilement, etc, etc... Oui d'une certaine façon c'est vrai, il y a un gros gateau à se partager, et tous ceux qui essayent d'en prendre une miette pour eux contribuent en même temps à ce qu'ils dénoncent.
Mais cet individualisme, et cette absence quasi complète de sens du comportement citoyen et du bien de tous, elle est typiquement marocaine.
Enfin pas seulement, personnellement je trouve les prix de cafés à Paris totalement abusifs aussi :)
elle stipule une augmentation de 10/° tout les 3 ans.le locataire a tout les droits de
garder sa maison s'il s'acquite mensuellement de ce qu'il doit au propriétaire.
pour la chasse dont vous parlez tous, il n'ya ni pigeons ni sloughi.le boum que connait l'immobilier actuellement dans tout le maroc y est pour quelque chose.
le prix du café à paris (un scandale) sans compter le prix d'une location ou l'achat d'un bien immobilier, et la il faut rien dire !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😄
alors marrakech n'est pas une exception dans l'exagération ...........
La loi au maroc !!!
Dans ce cas il y a changement de locataire.
Le propriétaire est militaire "colonel" et en plus "juge militaire", si dés fois il y avait procés, c'est perdu d'avance.
Ce qui risque de leur faire bizarre dans ce quartier c'est quand le lycée va déménager sur la route de ouarzazate à coté du lycée américain et que les profs et la communauté française va suivre (un jour).
Pour le prix des loyers, ça suit l'évolution du marché je suis d'accord, mais quand vous comparez le prix du café qui est chère en france, il faut pas oublier les salaires qui eux sont incomparables ave ceux du maroc.
Le maroc me paie 400€/mois et je dois me loger à 800€/mois et là le proprio demande au suivant 1500€. Il a à la fois raison c'est son droit mais cela montre comme par tout qu'il n'y a pas de moral dans les affaires.
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Hi everyone,
We're leaving in early October 2026 and planning to travel from the Aït Bougmez Valley ("Happy Valley") to Skoura/Ouarzazate via Demnate and the R307/N23 route.
Has anyone taken this road recently? Is it passable with a regular car (non-4x4), or is a 4x4 absolutely necessary? Are there any ongoing construction projects or degraded sections to be aware of?
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Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
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This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
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Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
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Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
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2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier.
Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel...
Day 3: Stop in Tetouan
Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains
Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!)
Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis
Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad)
After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF).
Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
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Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary:
From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure)
Arrival and departure: Essaouira
Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest
Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities
Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering?
Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac
Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel
Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac
Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep
Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac
Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac
Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest
Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay
Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac
Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight)
Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online
We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide?
👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.)
🍽️ Restaurants / meals
We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal.
👉 Any thoughts?
👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.)
For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal
Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊
🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood
We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street).
👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍
Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is...
My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music.
Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians?
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If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
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For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening
Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada
Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon
Day 6: Luxor
Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon
Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada
Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van.
Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
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