depuis quelques jours, je m 'etais mis dans la tete d'aller decouvrir un peu le Maroc, etant donné que je vais au sud du portugal.
J'ai donc fait mon passeport aujourd hui et visité pas mal de sites pour me renseigner sur les endroits a visiter etc... Disons que j'etais super branché pour me louer un 4x4 et aller un peu dans le desert, moi qui n'ai jamais vu le desert et qui ne suis jamais sorti d'europe, j'étais tres enthousiaste.
Cependant, au fil de mes lectures, je me rends compte qu'aller au Maroc, c'est se soumettre à toutes leurs croyances et us. Ok, mais pour moi vacances, ca veut dire s'eclater un minimum, et ne pas faire attention a tout ce que je fais. Or je me rends compte que ma copine pourra pas mettre de jupes courtes, je pourrai pas rouler la nuit sur les routes, hors de question pour moi de ramener une boulette de shit si je veux fumer des joints, impossible de boire de l'alcool, de plus, je comptais y aller avec ma voiture (un peu tappe a l oeil, c est une cabriolet) et je me rends compte que le simple fait de la prendre, c'est risquer de la perdre, bref, comme j'ai pas envie d'aller en prison marocaine pour avoir fumé un joint ou emmené une boulette de shit la bas, et bien je vais me rabattre sur l'espagne (Ibiza) mais sincerement je trouve cela nul. Je vois deja beaucoup d'entre vous dire "t as qu a pas fumer" mais bon, apparemment ces gens la ne font pas la difference entre un consommateur et un dealeur ou passeur alors tant pis... Mais c'est bien dommage, surtout pour un pays producteur de hashish... Cherchez la logique...
Partir en vieille peugeot 504 avec 12 autres passagers, s'arrêter pour boire un thé à la menthe, se laisser envouter par deux yeux qui brillent au milieu d'un voile, c'est un trip tellement plus grisant que celui qui est au bout d'une bouffée de shit !
On voyage avant tout pour découvrir autre chose.
Mais si tu le souhaites il y a d'excellent clubs med au Maroc ......
🤪 IBIZA et ses night clubs bruyants ...Zik démentielle - mini jupe - alcool - shit ...Voilà la destination de tes rêves, vu tes souhaits exprimés! Tu peux même y aller avec ta cabriolet flamboyante !!! (fais juste attention de ne pas crever un pneu avant ...Ce serait con! et ça casserait l'image!!!)
Sorry ...Mais, comme les internautes baroudeurs qui ont répondu avant ...Je crois qu'on a pas la même vision du voyage.
Je ne juge pas, j'émets simplement un commentaire et t'invite surtout ...un jour ...à découvrir les pays que tu veux visiter sous un autre angle ... par le respect de la différence, des autres et de leur culture ...
Dis-donc Escobar...a part le H (le super des super bien sur...) les mini-jupes et ton (super) cabriolet (Porsche....rien de moins!) keski t, interesse vraimant....?
Euh djbiod c'est une blague ou quoi ? Rassure nous, tu n'es pas comme ça dans le vie courante...si c'est la cas faut abolument que tu contactes Strip-Tease, l'émission qui vous déshabille.
Remarque tu fais bien de ne pas t'y rendre, je pense que le Maroc ne voudrait pas de gars comme toi... tu respires trop la betiz humaine...quand je te lis, je me dis qu'on est déjà des amis. 😠
Enfin, il faut de tout pr faire un monde même des abrutis...alors va fumer tes joins dans un coin mais ne pourri pas le(s) forum(s) avec tes post débiles, merci d'avance
C'est vraiment dommage de n'avoir aucun respect!! Le maroc est magnifique et ces "gens là" sont terriblement acceuillant!! Effectivement je crois que tu seras mieux à Ibiza! En tout cas, il est certain que voyager sans respect pour le pays et ses habitants est vraiment nul! Enfin saches que les contraintes sont minimes j'y ai voyagé pdt 1 mois et demi et tu peux t'habiller léger (mais décent), boire de la bière, du vin et fumer du shit (évidemment il est stupide de l'emmener avec toi, puisque tu peux en trouver sur place). Il y a toujours de risques c'est à toi de les prendre!
Maintenant si tes vacances sont synonymes de boites, nana en mini jupe et frimer avce ta caisse laisse tomber le Maroc tu vas t'ennuyer ou alors va dans un club med à agadir!
Bref la Maroc est une terre d'acceuil la montagne est magnifique, la mer est agréable, les villes remplies d'art et d'histoire et les gens adorables.......à toi de t'adapter!
Quel plaisir que de découvrir, apprendre et partager...un voyage
Eh bien voila un sacre specimen... Avec tous les gens ouverts d'esprits que l'on peut rencontrer sur VF, ca fait un choc de realiser qu'il peut exister des gars comme ca qui cherchent a voyager...
Eh djbiod, si tu veux aller a l'etranger pour faire exactement la meme chose que chez toi, restes-y, t'economiseras pour ton cabriolet et ton shit et puis ca nous evitera de te croiser sur notre route.
"Rester, c´est exister, mais voyager, c´est vivre" G.Nadaud
Il m'arrive souvent comme toi de lire, de lire..., de lire et encore de lire...des absurdités fondées sur des préjugés, des mesaventures localisés au sujet de plusieurs pays.
Ta copine en mini-jupe ? : la mini-jupe est une mode des années soixante dix passée... et dépassée au Maroc. (Ta copine peut même faire du nudisme dans certaines plages marocaines dédiées à cet effet pour les étrangers et non étrangers).
L'alcool ? : Il y a boire jusqu'à la lie, jusqu'à la "borachera" si bien interprétée par hervé villard, si ...ce chanteur francais de dit qq chose avec son fabuleux et intemporel "Capri c'est fini" . Sais-tu que ton statut d'étranger au Maroc de permet d'acheter et de consommer à volonté l'alcool même durant le mois de ramadan, mois sacré pour les musulmans. Les points de vente, les bars publics et d'hôtels ne sont fréquentés, à majorité écrasantes, que par des marocains. Tu peux aussi consommer de l'alcool dans des dancings que Jhon Travolta n'a jamais fréquenté même à ses heures de gloires.
Quant au H, il est réglementé par toutes les législations du monde : si tu as une grande quantité, tu n'es plus un consommateur mais un dealer dans ce cas même dans ton pays tu seras sévèrement sanctionné. Mais saches qu'en consommant quand même du H au Maroc, tu ne seras pas condamné à mort comme dans certains pays sans les citer.
Le Maroc est en effet un pays de tradition et de modernisme comme ton pays d'ailleurs que j'affectionne particulièrement de par ma formation francisante et aussi après l'avoir visité à maintes reprises : du sud au nord, d'est en ouest et ce tout en appréciant ses traditions et son modernisme.
Je te conseille de visiter le Maroc d'Aujourd'hui, ce pays moderne dont la francophonie est privillégiée par excellence par rapport aux autres langues internationales, dont la France restera ad-eternam un partenaire ami, historique, culturelle, économique et politique du Maroc que tu ne connais qu'à travers quelques lectures partiales et aléatoires.
In fine, parcours les sites en français purement marocains pour mieux juger le Maroc positif : celui de la tolérence et de la coexistence pacifique.
mais qui où tu as eu ces histoires droles a mourir🙁...tu n'es pas obligé d'avoir 18 ans pour acheter de l'alcool au maroc...ta boulette de shit laisse la au portugal et fumes en de la marocaine....la copine avec sa mini jupe vas passer inaperçue parmi les marocaines...je te parle pas des boites de nuits qui ferme à 7h du mat...ni des derniers models de voitures matriculées au maroc: des 4*4 cayenes, des bmx5, mercedes ml.., des touareg... et j'en passe...tu te plantes mon pitt, le maroc est loin de ce que tu penses et je crois que des gens sur ce site te le confirmerons...
M'est avis que t'a un peu trop fumé de moquette pour pondre un truc pareil... Si tu l'a sincèrement pensé, il y a tout plein d'autres pays ou tu pourras aller te shooter ... Au fait, ne prend pas trop les Arabes pour des cons ... Parfois, certaines personnes feraient mieux de prendre modèle sur leur us et coutume ... Bien au contraire ...
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.