Traverser la frontière mexicaine depuis Tikal (Guatemala) en bus?
by Virgula2
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Est-ce possible ? Si oui, vers quelle ville mexicaine? L'idéal serait pour moi de remonter vers Campeche ou Merida, mais j'ai l'impression que c'est impossible.
Est-ce que ce serait plus simple en passant par le Belize?
Je sais qu'il y a des avions de Tikal pour Cancun, mais ils ont l'air très chers: est-ce bien le cas?
Merci pour vos infos!
Bonjour Virgula,
pour avoir déjà fait ce trajet, je ne passerais pas par le Mexique. Je suggère plutôt de passer par le Belize en autobus le circuit est très bien. Vous pouvez continuer en bus jusqu'au Yucatan vers le nord ensuite ou prendre un vol de l'aéroport de Belize city. Je pense que c'est plus sécuritaire, si vous êtes seule surtout. Le Belize est moins inquiétant que la frontière Guatemale-Mexique dans cette région. Si vous avez du temps, prenez le pour visiter le Belize qui est un très beau pays. La région de Placencia (bras de mer dans les caraïbes) et les îles sur le récif de corail c'est un paradis! Bon voyage, De
La vite va trop vite pour perdre ce précieux temps à tourner en rond sur nous-même! Il faut bouger! Voyager! Echanger! Découvrir ce monde! Bon voyage à tous!
Bonjour,
Je l'ai fait dans l'autre sens: de Chetumal au Mexique (départ vers 6h du matin), passage du Belize (sans s'arrêter) puis frontière Belize-Guatemala.
Arrivée à Flores (point de départ pour Tikal) vers 16h (si ma mémoire est bonne).
Plusieurs compagnies organisent ce trajet, facile et pas cher. Assez confortable aussi.
Chetumal est pas génial donc si tu peux éviter d'y dormir c'est pas plus mal.
Le passage des frontières s'effectue facilement, si tu parles qqs mots d'espagnol, c'est encore mieux.
A ta dispo pour plus d'infos Laurence
Plusieurs compagnies organisent ce trajet, facile et pas cher. Assez confortable aussi.
Chetumal est pas génial donc si tu peux éviter d'y dormir c'est pas plus mal.
Le passage des frontières s'effectue facilement, si tu parles qqs mots d'espagnol, c'est encore mieux.
A ta dispo pour plus d'infos Laurence
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🙂bonjour bien sur c'est plus simple par le bélize compter 2 jours en t'arrétent coucher au bélize une nuit
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routard ou backpacker ok mais pas de voyage a n'importe quel prix
Salut Lo73,
Je compte faire exactement le meme trajet que toi dans l'autre sens ; Flores-Passage du Belize pour rejoindre directement la frontiere mexicaine a Chetumal.
Je voudrais savoir si tu as du payer des droits de sorties aux frontieres entre ces pays... si oui, combien? Et pour les compagnies qui font le trajet Guatemala-Belize-Mexique (si elles le font dans un sens, je suppose qu'elle le font dans l'autre!), te souviens-tu des prix aussi?
Merci beaucoup!!
Je compte faire exactement le meme trajet que toi dans l'autre sens ; Flores-Passage du Belize pour rejoindre directement la frontiere mexicaine a Chetumal.
Je voudrais savoir si tu as du payer des droits de sorties aux frontieres entre ces pays... si oui, combien? Et pour les compagnies qui font le trajet Guatemala-Belize-Mexique (si elles le font dans un sens, je suppose qu'elle le font dans l'autre!), te souviens-tu des prix aussi?
Merci beaucoup!!
Bonsoir Emele,
J'ai ressorti des mes vieux tiroirs mes carnets de route et voilà le résultat (les prix sont ceux de mars 2006):
* Bus Chetumal-Flores 270 pesos mexicains par personne (je n'ai pas noté la compagnie)
* taxe pour quitter le Mexique: normalement aucune mais je me rapelle que la douanière voulait nous faire payer 10 USD par personne, chose que nous avons refusé car normalement on ne paie pas pour quitter le Mexique. Mais voilà, elle ne nous avait pas tout expliqué. En réentrant au Mexique (après notre tour au Guatemala), on nous a donné une facture. C'était une facture pour une taxe qu'il fallait aller payer avant de quitter le Mexique. Avec la facture reçue à la frontière, tu vas dans une banque, tu paies 210 pesos par personne et tu reçois un reçu comme preuve du paiement. En faisant les formalités de sortie du Mexique (à l'aéroport de Cancun dans notre cas), tu donnes ton reçu/preuve de paiement et tu es libre de quitter le pays. En fait, en arrivant au Mexique en avion, nous n'avions pas reçu de telle facture car la taxe de départ était comprise dans notre ticket d'avion (un charter par Thomas Cook, vol avec Martinair) mais cela ne vaut que pour une seule entrée (en réalité une sortie car tu paies à la sortie ou à la banque avant) et dans notre cas nous avons donc payé la deuxième fois! Après, avec le recul, on s'est dit que, très certainement la douanière qui avait voulu nous faire payer 10 USD à la frontière c'était pour nous permettre un 'double entry' mais on n'a jamais su la fin de l'histoire... C'est un peu compliqué...je ne sais pas si c'est clair? N'hésite pas si tu as des questions.
* taxe pour le Belize: 15 USD pp (à payer lorsque tu y rentres)
* taxe pour rentrer au Guatemala : 2 USD par personne
* taxe pour sortir du Guatemala: rien
* taxe pour rentrer au Mexique: rien mais reçu la fameuse facture à payer avant de sortir du Mexique
Bon j'espère ne pas avoir fait d'erreur car ça date déjà (et oui... le temps passe vite)
N'hésite pas à me contacter pour plus d'infos sur les frontières ou sur les payés visités Ciao Laurence
J'ai ressorti des mes vieux tiroirs mes carnets de route et voilà le résultat (les prix sont ceux de mars 2006):
* Bus Chetumal-Flores 270 pesos mexicains par personne (je n'ai pas noté la compagnie)
* taxe pour quitter le Mexique: normalement aucune mais je me rapelle que la douanière voulait nous faire payer 10 USD par personne, chose que nous avons refusé car normalement on ne paie pas pour quitter le Mexique. Mais voilà, elle ne nous avait pas tout expliqué. En réentrant au Mexique (après notre tour au Guatemala), on nous a donné une facture. C'était une facture pour une taxe qu'il fallait aller payer avant de quitter le Mexique. Avec la facture reçue à la frontière, tu vas dans une banque, tu paies 210 pesos par personne et tu reçois un reçu comme preuve du paiement. En faisant les formalités de sortie du Mexique (à l'aéroport de Cancun dans notre cas), tu donnes ton reçu/preuve de paiement et tu es libre de quitter le pays. En fait, en arrivant au Mexique en avion, nous n'avions pas reçu de telle facture car la taxe de départ était comprise dans notre ticket d'avion (un charter par Thomas Cook, vol avec Martinair) mais cela ne vaut que pour une seule entrée (en réalité une sortie car tu paies à la sortie ou à la banque avant) et dans notre cas nous avons donc payé la deuxième fois! Après, avec le recul, on s'est dit que, très certainement la douanière qui avait voulu nous faire payer 10 USD à la frontière c'était pour nous permettre un 'double entry' mais on n'a jamais su la fin de l'histoire... C'est un peu compliqué...je ne sais pas si c'est clair? N'hésite pas si tu as des questions.
* taxe pour le Belize: 15 USD pp (à payer lorsque tu y rentres)
* taxe pour rentrer au Guatemala : 2 USD par personne
* taxe pour sortir du Guatemala: rien
* taxe pour rentrer au Mexique: rien mais reçu la fameuse facture à payer avant de sortir du Mexique
Bon j'espère ne pas avoir fait d'erreur car ça date déjà (et oui... le temps passe vite)
N'hésite pas à me contacter pour plus d'infos sur les frontières ou sur les payés visités Ciao Laurence
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Merci beaucoup Lo73, ce sont exactement les infos que je cherchais! Je vais me renseigner un peu plus pour cette taxe de sortie du Mexique mais il me semble que j'avais déja lu quelque chose la dessus...Si je comprends bien, il faut payer la double entrée au Mexique : soit a la sortie du Mexique, soit quand tu y retournes (ils arrivent toujours á te coincer quelque part! 😉 ).
Pour les lieux á voir au Guatemala, je pensais, á partir de la frontiere mexicaine : quelques villages sur la route (Todos Santos), Lac Atitlan, Antigua, Tikal... puis retourner au Mexique. Je ne sais pas si le sud est (Livingston...) "doit" absolument etre rajouté sur la liste. A voir.
Merci encore,
Emele
Pour les lieux á voir au Guatemala, je pensais, á partir de la frontiere mexicaine : quelques villages sur la route (Todos Santos), Lac Atitlan, Antigua, Tikal... puis retourner au Mexique. Je ne sais pas si le sud est (Livingston...) "doit" absolument etre rajouté sur la liste. A voir.
Merci encore,
Emele
Salut Emele,
En effet, comme tu le dis bien, je te cite Si je comprends bien, il faut payer la double entrée au Mexique : soit a la sortie du Mexique, soit quand tu y retournes (ils arrivent toujours á te coincer quelque part! 😉 )., il faut payer d'une façon ou d'une autre mais je pense que payer un tampon 'double entry' revient moins cher que la fameuse taxe des 210 pesos...
Pour les endroits à visiter: quelques villages sur la route (Todos Santos) - nous n'avons rien visité entre la frontière et le Lac Atitlan Lac Atitlan: on a adoré, nous avons logé à Panajachel (assez pratique) et de là nous avons visité: Solola (le marché du dimanche nous a beaucoup plu et nous n'avons rencontré que 2 touristes); Santa Catarina de Palopo (à vélo, sympa mais ça grimpe bien); Santiago et San Pedro (sur la rive opposée), pas besoin de tour organisé, tu prends un bateau 'local' sans problèmes; et bien évidemment Chichicastenanago - assez touristique mais ça vaut le détour, il suffit de s'éloigner un rien du centre, de manger dans une cantine locale et c'est déjà moins bondé. Antigua: incontournable - attention les hôtels sont vite remplis Tikal: grandiose! Je ne sais pas si le sud est (Livingston...) "doit" absolument etre rajouté sur la liste. A voir. Je ne peux pas te renseigner, nous n'avons pas fait cette régiontoujours là pour + d'infos Ciao ciao Lo
En effet, comme tu le dis bien, je te cite Si je comprends bien, il faut payer la double entrée au Mexique : soit a la sortie du Mexique, soit quand tu y retournes (ils arrivent toujours á te coincer quelque part! 😉 )., il faut payer d'une façon ou d'une autre mais je pense que payer un tampon 'double entry' revient moins cher que la fameuse taxe des 210 pesos...
Pour les endroits à visiter: quelques villages sur la route (Todos Santos) - nous n'avons rien visité entre la frontière et le Lac Atitlan Lac Atitlan: on a adoré, nous avons logé à Panajachel (assez pratique) et de là nous avons visité: Solola (le marché du dimanche nous a beaucoup plu et nous n'avons rencontré que 2 touristes); Santa Catarina de Palopo (à vélo, sympa mais ça grimpe bien); Santiago et San Pedro (sur la rive opposée), pas besoin de tour organisé, tu prends un bateau 'local' sans problèmes; et bien évidemment Chichicastenanago - assez touristique mais ça vaut le détour, il suffit de s'éloigner un rien du centre, de manger dans une cantine locale et c'est déjà moins bondé. Antigua: incontournable - attention les hôtels sont vite remplis Tikal: grandiose! Je ne sais pas si le sud est (Livingston...) "doit" absolument etre rajouté sur la liste. A voir. Je ne peux pas te renseigner, nous n'avons pas fait cette régiontoujours là pour + d'infos Ciao ciao Lo
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bonsoir,
une petite question vu que je vais faire Mexique-Guatemala puis retourner au Mexique pour avoir une nouvelle carte de tourisme et re-bénéficier de 180 jours sur le territoire, la carte touristique pour aller au Mexique depuis le Guatemala, on se la procure comment ? 😕
merci d'avance 😉
une petite question vu que je vais faire Mexique-Guatemala puis retourner au Mexique pour avoir une nouvelle carte de tourisme et re-bénéficier de 180 jours sur le territoire, la carte touristique pour aller au Mexique depuis le Guatemala, on se la procure comment ? 😕
merci d'avance 😉
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Thanks for your advice—this is a bit urgent 😕😕😕😕
Hello,
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht). This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea? Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast! Cheers, Bruno.
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht). This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea? Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast! Cheers, Bruno.
Hi there,
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
Hi everyone,
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊