De Midelt à Imilchil
by Alquesn
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous
J'aimerais savoir si la piste partant de Midelt passant près du Cirque de Jaffar et rejoignant la P7319 vers Imilchil est praticable, avec quel type de véhicule, et en combien de temps pour joindre les 2 villes approximativement bien sûr.
Merci d'avance.
Bon week end.
alquesn
Bonjour,
Je viens simplement pour réactiver, et faire remonter votre question, car je suis aussi intéressé par d'éventuelles réponses.
Cdlt
Je viens simplement pour réactiver, et faire remonter votre question, car je suis aussi intéressé par d'éventuelles réponses.
Cdlt
patrick
marche à l'étoile meme si elle est trop haute
(Alexandra David- Neel)
voyager n'est pas arrivé mais parcourir le chemin(stevenson)
Bonjour,
Par Boumia et Tounfite, goudronné en 2011/2012, en prenant son temps= une toute petite journée, un très bel itinéraire.
On arrive entre Agoudal et Imilchil.
"Du grand Maroc"(dixit Gandini !).
Par le côté Jaffar vers Tounfite= Jamais fait.
Bonne prépa,
Razul
Bonjour,
Imilchil-Tounfite
D'Imilchil à Anefgou puis Agoudim/Tagoudite, goudron depuis 2 (?) ans, en voie de dégradation rapide.
En aval de Tagoudite, direction Tounfite, ancienne route en très mauvais état, pratiquement abandonnée.
Une nouvelle "autoroute" relie Tagoudite aux environs de Tounfite, via la montagne.
(Quant à la "piste de Jaafar", je ne sais rien de précis, sinon qu'elle a très mauvaise réputation...)
Je traduis l'essentiel (photo juin 2014) :
Travaux de construction d'une chaussée de la route provinciale 7319
reliant Tounfite à Tagoudite du PK 64+000 au PK 81+600
via Aït Bou Arbi.
13 millions de dhs...
Nous vous remercions de votre comp... (Texte lacunaire.)
Je traduis l'essentiel (photo juin 2014) :
Travaux de construction d'une chaussée de la route provinciale 7319
reliant Tounfite à Tagoudite du PK 64+000 au PK 81+600
via Aït Bou Arbi.
13 millions de dhs...
Nous vous remercions de votre comp... (Texte lacunaire.)Bonjour, je viens répondre à ton message car cette région je l'aime beaucoup et je vais te raconter mon dernier trip qui date du 10/11/2014. Notre objectif était de rallier Ar Rachidia à Imilchile (c'est ainsi que c'est écrit sur le panneaux routiers) Ce fut une journée délirante, nous étions deux avec un très bon 4*4. Itinéraire prévu:Départ Ar Rachidia(8H), Midelt, cirque de Jaffar, t direction Imilchile.A 10H15 nous prenons la direction de Jaffar à partir du centre de Midelt, le temps était maussade et les sommets du Jbel Ayachi étaient enneigés, il avait du pleuvoir et de la neige était tombée sur les sommets. Pas de problèmes au début, goudron et on arrive au niveau de la maison forestière à 1835 m, la piste commence à être vraiment détrempée. Nous ne sommes pas encore au niveau du col et nous continuons à monter, d'autant plus que des traces fraîches nous indiquent que un 4*4 est devant nous. Avant le col, grosse frayeur; la boue s'accumule sous les pneus et le véhicule devient une luge, le demi tour s'impose, mais comment le faire, la piste est étroite, les ravins sont à côté, et nous glissons en permanence bien que avec des pierres nous enlevons sans cesse la boue des pneus. Enfin un petit virage avec accotement nous permet de faire demi tour, ouf, et voilà que arrive le 4*4 qui était devant nous et qui avait fait lui aussi demi tour.Il était conduit par un chauffeur de coin qui renonçait avec son client à la ballade.
Retour donc à Midelt.
Je voulais à tout prix que mon coéquipier découvre le cirque de Jajjar. Pour cela nous quittons Midelt par la N 13 et à 11,2 km de Midelt vers le nord, nous prenons à gauche la route qui mène à Ait Oumgar(32/42/50 4/52/10) . Je donne les coordonnées car un gps est nécessaire, sans cela il est impossible de sortir des sentiers battus. cette route assez nouvelle, bien goudronnée, réserve une surprise en effet pour ceux qui n'ont pas de 4*4 ils peuvent rejoindre le cirque de Jaffar avec une voiture normale encore faut-il trouver le chemin ou le demander. Au point 32/38/80 4/58/55 il faut tourner à gauche et contourner une grande exploitation de pommiers facilement repérable. Au bout de 10 km d'une piste facile on arrive en bordure de l'Oued Jaffar, c'est magnifique et on n'a pas cassé sa voiture. Et là il suffit de descendre à pied et de faire 1 km à pied pour parcourir le gorges, c'est sublime, sauf rarement utilisées par des véhicules qui doivent avoir une bonne assurance( aller voir le spectacle sur Google, cirque de Jaffar).
J'arrête là mon récit et le reprendrait demain car il faut arriver à Imilchlle . KERDAVID
J'arrête là mon récit et le reprendrait demain car il faut arriver à Imilchlle . KERDAVID
KERDAVID
Bonjour. Super. On n'ira donc sans doute pas par la piste, même si en été il y'a sans doute moins de risque sauf orage, et je note précieusement les autres indications pour Jaffar.
Merci beaucoup...et j'attends la suite du récit car l'accès à imilchil et d'autres infos sur cette région m'intéressent.
Bonne journée.
alquesn

Suite Imichil(e)
Après ce détour vers les falaises, retour au souk d'Ait Oumgar, très bonne route et arrivée au point 32/31/77 4/59/47
ou ont été prises ces photos à l'intersection de trois routes, la piste qui va au cirque de Jaffar vers Midelt 53 KM su laquelle nous avons été bloqués, celle que j'ai prise qui va vers Midelt 46 KM en passant par Ait Oumgar et celle qui conduit à Tounfite (27 km) et à Imilchile avec un e (124 km).
Jusqu'au carrefour vers Tounfite la route alterne des passages goudronnés et non goudronnés mais elle est très facile pour un véhicule ordinaire. 5 km avant Tounfite (32/29/90 5/1050) prendre à gauche la P 7319, puis passage à Tagoudit, Agoudim et Anemzi.
Au point 32/19/13 5/17/44, quelques kilomètres après Anemzi, il y a un carrefour là précisément ou AFT a pris sa photo. Nous avons vu cet immense panneau jaune planté à une intersection. Nous avons pris à droite, en suivant la route indiquée pat le gps et plus ça allait plus la route se dégradait et à environ 10 km plus de route, elle était tombée dans l'oued.
Retour sur nos pas à l'intersection nous prenons à gauche, c'est une route toute nouvelle, une véritable autoroute comme le dit AFT. Elle traverse la montagne et c'est un véritable plaisir.
Pour la suite nous avons hésité à nous arrêter à Tirhadouine car la nuit tombait (19H) mais désirant être à Imilchil en soirée nous avons continué la route sans mesurer que nous devions passer le Tizi n inouzane qui culmine à 2650 m. Très vite nous rencontrons le neige et une épaisseur de 20 cm, plus aucun repère sur la route, une galère.
A 20h nous serons à Imilchil.Bilan de la journée Le cirque de Jaffar: à ne pas faire par temps de pluie et route très difficile; par contre pour ceux qui n'ont pas de 4*4, belle possibilité de rejoindre le cirque en partant de Ait Oumgar et faire la ballade à pied. La route Midelt:Imilchil par AIT Oumgar, magnifique et majestueux, pratiquement toute goudronnée, peut être faite avec tout véhicule mais à ne faire à partir du début novembre. Durée: 170 km, 6h. KERDAVID
KERDAVID
Suite Imichil(e)
celle qui conduit à Tounfite (27 km) et à Imilchile avec un e (124 km).De vrais panneaux "aux E", en effet... Ils auraient dû ajouter un E à Midelt, pour équilibrer l'ensemble... (Bizarre : en arabe, c'est écrit "Défilé de Jaafara". Le rédacteur ne devait avoir qu'une très vague connaissance des toponymes locaux.)
La première fois que je trouve une info aussi complète sur ce secteur , merci de ce récit bien détaillé , ça change de ce que l'on trouve en général sur ce forum .
Hannah
Hannah
Que se vuelva la tortilla
Je te remercie de ton message.
En juin je serai de nouveau au Maroc et je pense passer quelques jours à l'auberge Timay et parcourir le cirque de jaffar avec ma mule ( ma moto 125 susuki) j'en ferai un bilan à mon retour.
Amicalement
KERDAVID
Bonjour,
Pour donner envie, j'ai changé la photo.
Cette photo à été prise pas loin de Tounfite, en venant de la rte Agoudal/Imilchil.
bon voyage,
Razul
J'ai fait le même parcourt que Kerdavid sur la P7319 pendant la Toussaint 2014 et si je n'avais pas le track GPS je penserais qu'on a visité 2 univers différents.
Lorsque j'ai fait cette route début avril 2014, certaines parties de la route étaient vraiment en très mauvais état, et à un certain point (je suis incapable de le retrouver) la route avait même disparu. Il fallait faire 50-100 mètres sur le lit du fleuve.
La seule différence entre le trajet de Kerdavid et le mien est que moi je suis parti de Fes, ensuite Azrou et Boumia. Arrivé à ce point j'a fait la P7319 dès le début pour arriver à Tounfite. C'est à partir de là que la chose s'est compliqué. Au début des petits morceaux de route qui sont partis sous l'action du fleuve. Petit à petit les parties qui disparaissent sont de plus en plus souvent, et à certains endroits la largeur est toute juste pour le passager d'une voiture normale. Malheureusement je suis incapable de me souvenir de l'endroit précis, car ce jour là je venais de passer 2 jours au lit à cause de la diarrhée.
J'aime savoir que des travaux ont eu lieu et maintenant on peut bien rouler. Le paysage c'est vrai qu'il est magnifique.
Salut à tous,
Merci pour la mine d'information concernant cette route. Je pars au Maroc mardi 15.11.2016 pour la 2eme fois avec une voiture de tourisme, et j'aimerais approfondir cette région que j'ai survolé trop vite la dernière fois (en mode bourrin de Midelt à Merzouga). Je projette de faire Midelt - Imilchil via la P7319. Au vu des derniers message elle a l'air en bon état pour une voiture de tourisme. Le seul truc, c'est que c'est mi-novembre et comme vous l'avez dit, la neige rôde. Je ferais un arrêt à Midelt (je viendrai de Fes), et essayerai de me renseigner là bas sur la météo dans les montagnes. Si pas de neige je pense le tenter. Est-ce que quelqu'un a parcouru cette route récemment, est-elle toujours praticable ?
Je ne veux pas tenter le diable donc si danger, je rebrousserai chemin, mais faut avouer que ça donne envie :D
Merci pour vos réponses !
Merci pour la mine d'information concernant cette route. Je pars au Maroc mardi 15.11.2016 pour la 2eme fois avec une voiture de tourisme, et j'aimerais approfondir cette région que j'ai survolé trop vite la dernière fois (en mode bourrin de Midelt à Merzouga). Je projette de faire Midelt - Imilchil via la P7319. Au vu des derniers message elle a l'air en bon état pour une voiture de tourisme. Le seul truc, c'est que c'est mi-novembre et comme vous l'avez dit, la neige rôde. Je ferais un arrêt à Midelt (je viendrai de Fes), et essayerai de me renseigner là bas sur la météo dans les montagnes. Si pas de neige je pense le tenter. Est-ce que quelqu'un a parcouru cette route récemment, est-elle toujours praticable ?
Je ne veux pas tenter le diable donc si danger, je rebrousserai chemin, mais faut avouer que ça donne envie :D
Merci pour vos réponses !
Bonjour
Tu nous raconteras tes aventures des ton retour. Je prends également cette piste en janvier, mais en moto trail.
Bonjour,
Ce post date un peu et le réseau routier évolue rapidement au Maroc, aussi je souhaiterais avoir des informations récentes sur la faisabilité du parcours Midelt Imilchil(e) via Jaffar (quitte à faire une petite randonnée pour voir le cirque). Je précise que j'ai un véhicule de tourisme...
Merci d'avance.
"Nomade j'étais quand toute petite je regardais la route."
Isabelle Eberhardt
Bonjour,
De Midelt au col qui domine le cirque de Jaffar c'est une route non goudronnée (elle le sera probablement bientôt). 25km très roulant (une 40aine de minutes)
Du col au fond du cirque (environ 3km) : une piste dont l'état dépend des dégâts provoqués par les pluies. Un 4x2 passait sans difficultés en octobre. Il faut aller voir.
Au fond du cirque, il y a un oued à traverser : c'est du tout terrain; il fallait (octobre 2018) rechercher le point de sortie et les traces. Je n'y vois pas un véhicule de tourisme. Une mauvaise pierre dans le carter et le voyage est terminé.
De la sortie du cirque à Imatchimen : piste en état très moyen jusqu'au plateau. Ca grimpe assez sec sur 2km. Il n'y a pas de franchissement.
Les gorges : tout terrain. Je le déconseille sans 4x4 et après les pluies car les traces sont effacées.
Imatchimen-jonction P7319 : une alternance goudron et non goudron. Il faut 45 bonnes minutes pour parcourir les 20-25km.
Ensuite la P7319 jusqu'à Imilchil est goudronnée mais a connu des jours meilleurs. Il faut compter 3h pour les 95km.
L'alternative la plus courte pour rejoindre Imilchil depuis Jaffar est de retourner à Midelt, partir vers Zaida sur 14 km et prendre la route goudronnée vers Aït Omghar et Imatchimen.
Bonne après midi
JP
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.









