Idée pas tres originale mais d'une grande utilité pour un débutant en Afrique du sud , je m'adresse à vous pour savoir ce que vous pensez de mon idée d'itinéraire...par avance merci pour vos précieuses réponses:
Durée du séjour:18 jours entiers sur place
Jour 1:Arrivée Jo'burg et route pour White river(en voiture de location)(1)
Jour 2 : Blyde River Canyon (2)
environ 4 jours pour Kruger (6)
Départ Kruger sud en direction de Clarens (en 1 ou 2 jours) (8)
Départ Clarens pour Bloemfontein ( peut etre via Maseru au Lesotho) (9)
Départ Bloemfontein Pour Port Ellizabeth (10)
Port Elizabeth direction Le Cap en passant par la garden route.(4 jours)
Il faudra faire des choix entre Addo elephant, knysna , hermanus, ..etc(14)
jours 15 ,16 et 17 derniers pour Le Cap (table Mountain....)
Départ pour retour Johanesburg en fin d 'apres midi .(17)
Dernier joura Jo'burg pour prendre l'avion de retour 21:00(18)
Est-ce que cela vous semble faisable ?
Serait -il plus interessant de traverser le pays en avion afin d'eviter la route entre Kruger et Elizabeth?
Bonjour,
Pourquoi White River ? Pourquoi pas Sabie, Graskop voir Hazyview ?
Mille excuses préalables mais
Pourquoi aller à Bloemfontein ??? Via Clarens ??? Pourquoi Maseru ???
Tu es dans le Kruger donc tu as plusieurs choix :
1/ Descendre via le Swaziland vers Hluhluwe puis prendre l'avion à Durban pour Port Elizabeth puis poursuivre vers Cape Town.
2/ Couper pour arriver au nord du Drakensberg avec passage soit par le Lesotho soit par le Drakensberg sud-af pour Durban et idem.
3/ Voir si tu trouves un vol de Nelspruit vers Port Elizabeth. Tu gagnes du temps mais tu perds Le pays Zoulou et le Drakensberg ! Pour une prochaine fois ?
Evidemment si tu veux aller à Bloem...Pourquoi à partir de là ne pas redescendre via le Karoo vers PE ou sur la route de Cape Town...
J'ai pas vu quand tu voulais partir...
NB : même en 18 jours c'est bien rempli comme distances et kilométrages...
Bonjour
et d abord merci pour ta reponse
En effet j ai pas mis les dates dans mon message:du 23novembre au 10 decembre 2014(sur palce)
Pourquoi White river?
parce que nous arrivons le 23 /11 vers 9 heures du matin ( apres surement une mauvaise nuit dans l'avion ), nous partons directement vers Nelspruit(400km) (que je prefere eviter pour une ville plus petite...donc j ai pensé White River)mais rien de booker encore.
Descendre dans le Swaziland , j y ai pensé mais semble -t-il que novembre et decembre sont des mois assez pluvieux dans cette zone( pourrais tu me le confirmer?)
J avais pensé également prendre un vol , pour Port Elizabeth mais j y vois plusieurs inconvenients:
-depuis Nelspruit il n y a pas de vol direct donc faudra peut etre refaire la route pour Jo'burg et prendre un vol JNb -CPT ou prendre 2 vols (depuis Nelspruit)ça bouffe une journee dans les aeroports et c est assez cher en effet.
-De plus si on prend un vol faudra louer une seconde voiture.....j ai toujours pas louer la premiere et j ai pleins de doutes donc , je pensais qu une seule voiture serait peut etre mieux.
Pourquoi Clarens , Maseru et Bloemf...eh bien pour faire la route en quelques etapes de 3 a400 km chacune
Pour finir , j ai conscience que cela fait beaucoup de kilometres et c est d ailleur la raison pour laquelle je n ai encore rien reservé.
Je doute encore entre faire la route ou prendre un avion pour joindre nord et sud.
L'idée est de faire Blyde River et Kruger dans le nord et de Port Elizabeth(addo Elephant) jusqu 'a Cap Town en passant par la Garden route , Hermanus etc...dans le sud
Mon probeme est donc comment joindre le nord au sud.
Encore merci pour vos conseils
Je rejoins l'opinion d'Attila version Kwazulu natal...Je pense que c'est la meilleure option . Dulstroom est une bonne idée mais comme l'avion est 9 heures du matin voir si jusqu'à Sabie ou Graskop n'est pas faisable histoire d'être "au pied du petit Drakensberg dès le lendemain matin)...White river c'est pas le top du top...
En novembre tu peux avoir de la pluie partout !!!!!! Et au Kruger ! Et sur la côte ouest...Ni plus ni moins en pays Swazi.
L'autre version c'est recouper pour descendre le Drakensberg (ces montagnes, ses randos, ses paysages) vers Durban puis idem.
Sérieux...Bloemfontein ?? Clarens ?? Maseru ??
Mon probeme est donc comment joindre le nord au sud.
Version Swazi, pays zoulou, Durban. Version Drakensberg Durban.
Bon d' accord ,
L 'idée de traverser le pays par l interieur ne semble enchanter personne......
c'est ce que j avais trouve de plus court.
Les grosses precipitations annoncées a cette époque au KZN et Swaziland m avaient fait opter pour une route vers le Lesotho.
J en prend donc note !!!!
Imfolozi semble etre plus interessant que Addo Elephant donc??
Pourquoi Santa Lucia?
La version Drakensberg permettrait egalement d'eviter la cote vu que la fin du voyage se déroule en grande partie pres de l ocean.
J avais dans l'idée de rejoindre le Cap depuis Port Elizabeth afin de faire la garden route.
Un vol Durban /Port Elizabeth vous semble-til une bonne idée?et ensuite la route vers Captown
Vos opinions et experiences sont precieuses afin d'optimiser notre sejour
Encore merci
Je ne connais pas Addo.
Imfolozi est un parc que personnellement j aime beaucoup.
A Santa Lucia , c'est le paradis des hippos et des crocos. La côte vers le nord est très belle pour ceux qui aiment les plages sauvages et agitées.
Je ne donnnerai pas d'avis sur la partie Port Elizabeth Hermanus , je ne connais pas.
Entendons nous bien, tu fais ce que tu veux...Mis au bout d'une 14aine de voyages en AFS, l'idée d'aller à Bloem (surtout pour un voyage inaugural) me surprend...
Le hluhluwe Umfolozi est un grand et beau parc avec quasiment toute la faune possible...Addo a beaucoup d'éléphants (c'était le but de départ) mais au fil des ans a acquis des félins mais pas de girafes par exemple (non endémique à cet endroit). Les 2 sont excellents mais différents, le premier est plus exhaustif et la probabilité de voir plus est plus grande.
Donc Swaziland pour traverser avec un stop (tu diras si tu veux en savoir plus) puis St Lucia parce que cela peut être une bonne étape alliant la petite ville originale, des hippos et des crocs, une lagune, la mer et en plus l'Isimangaliso park qui est magnifique.
La côte version Kwazulu natal est différente de celle entre PE et Cape Town mais effectivement selon tes préférences, la descente du Drakensberg qui est splendide (paysages +++) apporte une autre version.
Il faudra choisir !
Durban PE en avion est LA chose à faire dans ton cas.
De PE à Capetown la route de la côte est un plaisir (si tu veux en savoir plus).
Par exemple (classique)...PE, Addo, Knysna, Agulhas (De Hoop reserve), Hermanus, Cape Town
ou PE Addo Knysna Oudtshorn Montagu Franschoek...
De PE à Capetown la route de la côte est un plaisir (si tu veux en savoir plus).
En 6 nuits, visite du Cap incluse, c'est un peu la course...
Soit c'est JNB-Kruger-JNB puis vol intérieur PE et circuit jusqu'au Cap, soit c'est un circuit du Cap à Durban via la côte ou le Drakensberg puis un vol Durban- Le Cap et une visite de cette région sans remonter jusqu'à Addo-PE .
Ou alors, il faut zapper le Kruger et faire un circuit du genre JNB Pilanesberg Nord Drakensberg Cradock- Zebra NP- Port Elizabeth puis la côte jusqu'au Cap...
Bloem...etait une etape (peut etre seulement la nuit) pour se reposer et repartir;comme je disais une façon rapide de traverser du nord au sud , etant donné que l idée etait une semaine au nord et le reste entre un mini road trip et 8 ou 9 jours au sud.....
Mais bon , je commence a envisager de changer completement de plan , je m explique:
Arrivée JNB direction Dullstroom(si on est tres fatigués apres le voyage)ou plus loin peut etre Sabie ou Graskop(dans ce cas la je ne reserve aucun hotel , esperant trouver sur place, mais pas trop dans mes habitudes , je prefere booker la premiere nuit a l avance)
2ºjour Blyde river et nuit aux portes du kruger ou dans le parc peut etre meme.....
au moins 3 nuits de plus dans le parc en descendant vers le sud direction le Swaziland(toutes infos seront les bienvenues au sujet de la traversee du Swaziland)
2 jours de plus pour rejoindre Durban
Je prefere Drakensberg a côte Kwazulu(meme si pour l instant je n ecarte aucune possibilite)
Qu' entends tu par "descente des Drakensberg"?(une façon de longer les montagnes en direction de Durban, sans trop s 'aventurer dans la montagne?)
Vol Durban -PE
Garden route(impasse sur addo)( la aussi je suis preneur d'infos)
Hermanus
Captown et alentours
retour avant dernier jour CPT-JNB(hotel tranquille a JNB???)
Encore merci a tous les 2
Quand tu es dans le coin de Sabie tu entres dans le Kruger plein Est pour descendre vers le sud et sortir par crocodile bridge pour entrer au Swaziland direction (c'est une idée) Hlane où tu passes une nuit. Tu en repars pour sortir plein sud et descendre soit directement vers le Hluhluwe Umfolozi soit en faisant un crochet par St Lucia. Puis plein sud vers Durban.
Soit à partir du Kruger tu pars plein Ouest (sud ouest) vers par exemple le Golden Gate NP (vers le mont Orion) avec un stop supplémentaire soit du côté de Champagne Valley soit un peu plus bas vers le Kamberg. Puis Durban.
Drakensberg = Paysages et petites (ou grandes randos / balades). Facilement accessibles à partir des points cités.
Il y a plein d'activités possibles le long de la Garden Route. Addo si version sans Hluhluwe mais Drakensberg. Autour de Knysna. Sur la route d'Hermanus ( à Hermanus ou du côté de De Hoop)...Puis Cape Town.
En ce qui me concerne selon tes vols, je partirais de Cape Town en début d'apm pour arriver à Joburg en milieu d'apm pour prendre le vol retour en début / fin de soirée. Ti évites Joburg et tu gagnes du temps à Cape Town.
Tu pars d'où ? d'Espagne ?
Par la Turkish, Madrid Istanbul Joburg c'est pas mal...Tu peux même faire le retour Cape Town Joburg Istanbul Madrid par la Turkish sans changer d'avion à Joburg.
Salut Attila ,
J avais pense l idee pilanesberg , Drakensberg et zapper Kruger afin d'eviter de revenir en arrriere.
Mais peut on vraiment zapper le Kruger??
pourquoi Kruger et pourquoi Garden Road:
comme pour tous les premiers voyages dans un premier temps on veut tout faire puis petit a petit on se rend compte qu il faut faire des choix.....et j'en suis là
Donc nos attentes ou preferences sont animaux , nature, paysage , trekking , on n est pas particulierement plage ni bord de mer....mais on ne crache pas dessus non plus.
Salut Michel
En effet je pars d'Espagne et j ai deja les billets
520€ avec British Airways , sachant que je demarre de Palma de Mallorca , j ai trouvé le tarif assez interessant(2escales et 18 heures de voyage a l aller comme au retour)
Partir le dernier jour de Captown et enchaîner directement avec le vol de retour est bien sûr la meilleure option mais c'est aussi la plus risquée( si retard de la connexion CPT-JNB)c'est pour ça que je pensais passer la derniere nuit et journee sur Jo'burg.(Je vais etudier tout de meme l'eventualité)
Jo'burg n' a vraiment pas d' interet???d apres toi
J ai donc plus ou moins les 5 ou 6 premiers jours(nord:blyde river et kruger sortie par le sud du parc) et les 6,7 derniers (Port Elizabeth a CapTown puis retour Joburg )
Il me reste donc 5 ou 6 jours a remplir tout en joignant Kruger a Durban
Ça prend forme
Oui car il existe d'autres parcs à "Big Five".
Non parce qu'il n'existe aucun autre parc à " Big Five " aussi vaste...
Pour quelqu'un qui ne désire rester que 2 nuits, ce n'est peut-être pas la peine de faire un gros détour pour aller au Kruger. Pour quelqu'un de plus "passionné" par les animaux, si...
pourquoi Garden Road: ....on n est pas particulierement plage ni bord de mer....mais on ne crache pas dessus non plus.
Je ne vois donc pas pourquoi ne pas zapper la Garden Road qui suit le bord de mer...
Un passage par l'intérieur (Karoo) serait plus intéressant.
animaux
Kruger et Kgalagadi sont les principaux mais seul le Kruger permet l'éventuelle rencontre de tous les animaux.
Après Imfolozi, Addo et le Pilanesberg.
nature, paysage
Quasi partout ...😄
trekking ,
Drakensberg, Blyde, Cederberg.
plage ni bord de mer
A éviter : la côte aux alentours de Durban.
(Pour l'aérien, je commencerais par Le Cap avec un vol intérieur dès le jour 1 en prévoyant une grosse marge . Comme ça, plus de soucis après et pas besoin de passer une journée+une nuit à Johannesburg.)
La partie Kruger et la partie Cape Town sont à mon avis des indispensables d'un voyage inaugural.
Les jours qui restent...Il faudra choisir entre Drakensberg et Kwazulu natal via Swaziland.
En ce qui me concerne j'ai fait le tour Kruger Swazi Kwazulu Drakensberg et dans un autre temps la partie Cape Town PE et dans d'autres temps tout le reste mais j'en suis à mon N°14.
Joburg...A part le musée de l'apartheid...Un tour à Soweto (pas mon truc). Sortir de Joburg pour le Magliesberg là oui.
Pretoria a plus d'intérêt historique, symbolique et visuel mais ce n'est quand même pas le must.
Joburg c'est quand même surtout la possibilité d'emmerdements.
Grosse prise de tete mais ça permet de voir les choses un peu plus claires!!!
Attila dans le kruger, l'idée c etait plutot 4 nuits
pourquoi la Garden route (je viens de me souvenir🤪)c'etait surtout a cause du climat, j ai cru comprendre que le nord etait assez pluvieux a cette epoque , j avais donc pensé qu il serait peut etre mieux de passer plus de la moitie du voyage dans le sud....mais bon meme ma femme ce joint a vous en ce qui concerne la garden route , je suis en train de tout changer a nouveau ....peut etre un vol Durban/Le Cap et finalement seulement quelques jours au cap avec le principal, manchots , un trek sur la table mountain et aller jusqu a Hermanus pour les baleines...
J 'envisage de plus en plus le retour le dernier jour directement a l'aeroport de Joburg
Conclusion on fera moins de choses mais on prendra le temps de les faire .....ce qui n est pas plus mal non plus!!!
Qu en pensez vous?
Le Cap/ Joburg arrivvee a joburg a 16h35 pour un vol de retour à 20:25( en airbus 380 s'il vous plait😎)
Derniere question pratique , en ce qui concerne les voitures de location ,
Vaut il mieux prendre une assurance ( tous risques me semble plus raisonnable)sur place chez le loueur ou depuis les webs du style autoescape etc......?
Merci , bonne soiree bon appetit
4 nuits dans le Kruger, c'est ce qu'on a fait (Berg en Dal / Lower sabie et Olifants x2). Si c'était à refaire on prendrait 3 nuits en retirant 1 nuit à Olifants. Le Kruger c'est bien mais c'est long de rester coincé en voiture pendant 4 jours... et en plus ça fatigue les yeux !
Au début c'est enthousiasme à fond, à la fin, tu fais les pastilles et tu espères tomber sur un embouteillage... je caricature un peu mais c'est vrai qu'on a préféré les balades à Milwane au grand air...
Thirty years ago, I traveled to Zanzibar (Tanzania) with my children. Since I’ve since started a new family, I took the opportunity of a trip to Kenya to bring my new family along: my wife, who’s Kenyan, and my 10-year-old daughter.
Zanzibar has really changed in 30 years.
It’s become the island of taxes.
It all starts upon arrival: I think it’s the only country in the world, besides the visa, where Zanzibar insurance (and no other) is mandatory—it costs 40 €. If you didn’t purchase it before arriving, good luck getting it: the IT systems are unreliable. With a bit of luck, it’ll take at least an hour to process! And of course, this insurance is useless—if you get sick, it’s recommended to use your home country’s insurance because if you use Zanzibar’s, your national insurance won’t cover you anymore.
I wanted to show my daughter the red colobus monkey, which is endemic to Zanzibar. I paid for a tour that was supposed to be all-inclusive. First, we visited a spice farm, where a farm guide took charge of us—meaning commissions were involved, of course! The tour was very good and informative, though. When we arrived at Jenzhi Park (the colobus park), the guide told us he "forgot" there was an entrance fee (50$).
Aware of the system, I decided to book an Ocean Blue tour through the Zanzibar Tourism Office. After two hours of driving, we stopped at a beach—and were left there. No boat was ready to take us. Since my wife speaks Swahili (the language in Zanzibar), after an hour, a captain with his own boat agreed to take us along with his family.
Another attempt. The main attraction in Zanzibar (besides the city) is Changuu, the Prison Island. You have to take a motorboat and pay the captain, which is normal.
But in Zanzibar, to even get on a boat, you first have to pay a tax! Once we arrived at the island, it started all over again! Thirty years ago, access was free, and the entire island (about 1 km²) was open. Today, there’s a small office, and you have to pay a hefty fee to enter. But enter where? A paved path leads to about 15% of the island—the rest is off-limits. In total, I paid 100 € for my wife, daughter, and myself just to visit a tiny portion of the island! Avoid this!
For the rest of our stay, we stayed at a 5-star hotel with golf, horseback riding, tennis courts, evening concerts, etc.—undeniably high-level comfort. One last thing: if you want to rent a car, it’s affordable and useful for exploring the island’s diverse landscapes, but there are speed cameras at every corner on the main roads. The fine is supposedly 100 $, and it’s hard not to get one!
I told you: Zanzibar, the land of taxes. I used to think my country, Belgium, was the tax champion—I’ve found something even better!
I’m starting to plan a trip to Tanzania + Zanzibar in August 2027 for 2 to 3 weeks with my partner.
I’ve never been there before and I’d love some advice, especially for Tanzania where we’re planning to do several safaris in the North.
Specifically:
Do you recommend using a travel agency to organize the trip, or are guidebooks and internet recommendations enough?
If you’ve used a local agency (rather than one in France), which one?
Would you recommend hiring a guide for the entire stay in Tanzania, or is it better to travel independently except in the parks where I’ve read that guides are mandatory?
If you’ve used a local agency (rather than one in France), which one and at what price?
Have you had any bad surprises (hidden fees, inexperienced guide, poor vehicle condition)?
Looking forward to reading your tips! 🙂
Thanks in advance
I’m thinking (thanks to some tips from forum members 😉) of taking this route to get to the Cederberg.
Apparently, the road was damaged by the May rains, and traffic is still slow there.
Has anyone taken this route recently?
If not, is one direction (toward or from the Cederberg) more scenic than the other?
In Nov./Dec. 2022, I went on a safari in the region and we suffered from the extreme temperatures caused by the "El Niño" phenomenon in the Indian Ocean at that time. On top of the extreme heat, there can be torrential rains, flooding, etc., which have led to disasters with casualties.
Hi everyone!
I’m still planning my Cape Town to Johannesburg trip in January 2027.
I saw a documentary about the San people in Namibia, and the same day, I stumbled upon the Lonely Planet page about !Kwah Ttu.
I checked out their website to learn more, including Michel’s travel journal about it. I’m really keen to go.
So, I’m thinking of dedicating:
- either 1 day out of the 4.5 I have in Cape Town...
- or making a detour to !Kwah Ttu on the day I leave Cape Town for Montagu, instead of visiting Franschhoek and its Saturday market...
To the VFers who’ve already been: is it really worth spending a day there?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Malijp
Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM
4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing
5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?)
8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...)
9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?)
11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!)
13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure)
16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...)
18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP
21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!)
22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now...
I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments...
Can’t wait to be back there again!
We're heading to South Africa for a month with 5 adults.
We'd like to rent a vehicle that can accommodate 5 people and all our luggage.
We're starting in Cape Town and ending in Johannesburg.
What vehicle would you recommend?
EDITH
Hi there,
I’m planning a gorilla trek in Bwindi, Uganda. I’m torn between the classic option (1 hour with the gorillas) and the habituation trek (4 hours with the gorillas but a more expensive permit). Has anyone done the habituation trek? Both? If so, I’d love to hear your feedback (including on the difficulty).
Thanks
I’ve read some travel journals here but I still have a question.
We’re heading to Uganda next February. The gorilla permits are booked, and the flight tickets are sorted too.
My question is about the chimpanzee trek. I’d love to know whether it’s better to book the habituation experience (4 hours) or the standard trek (1 hour).
The price difference isn’t huge, but I keep wondering and I’d hate to miss out on a great experience.
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
We're now just 5 weeks away from our trip to South Africa 🙂 and *so* excited to explore (just a tiny bit of) this amazing country.
I need to buy some binoculars but have no idea which model to choose. I don’t really know what to look for (and I don’t want to spend too much).
Thanks in advance to anyone who can give me some tips!
We just got back from ten days in Tanzania. We were lucky enough to be guided by Gishaman. Always in a great mood, a good driver, and an excellent guide. Thanks to him, we not only saw the Big Five in one day but also loads of other animals. He works for the local agency Blit Safaris, which provided excellent support throughout our trip. Highly recommended!
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes.
I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks).
Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate.
Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross.
Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head.
Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes:
Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek?
At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge?
There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls.
I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions.
I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali.
Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha.
I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4.
Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!