Overstay en Indonésie
by Maxou6669
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour, je suis en overstay depuis un an en indonesie, Bali..Pas le choix !Quelqu’un aurait il une idée pour pouvoir sortir du territoire ?je dois rentrer pour des problèmes de santé et bien sûr je ne peux pas payer l’amende pour overstay! Merci d’avance
Maxou
c'est une blague ? Plus de 6 mois c'est l'incarcération ...
Si vous n'avez vraiment pas le choix, tentez le passage par la frontière terrestre. En cas d'afflux, vous aurez peut-être une chance de passer en détournant l'attention du policier. C'est risqué, mais vu votre situation.
Des amis ont fait la même chose dans un certain pays car ils ont perdu leur passeport et il n'y avait pas d'ambassade et en plus l'amende est calculée au maximum (car aucune preuve de la date d'entrée vu la perte du passeport).
Bon courage....
Des amis ont fait la même chose dans un certain pays car ils ont perdu leur passeport et il n'y avait pas d'ambassade et en plus l'amende est calculée au maximum (car aucune preuve de la date d'entrée vu la perte du passeport).
Bon courage....
Tu as demandé conseil à l'ambassade ?
Tu pourrais peut-être "perdre" ton passeport ?
Sinon la frontière entre le Kalimantan et le Sarawak se passe à l'aise ( par la forêt ... Il m'est arrivé de la passer sans le vouloir 🏴☠️ ). Mais je ne sais pas ce que tu risques en cas d'entrée illégale en Malaisie.
Ok c tres gentil de buen vouloir m’aider , la piste sarawak est tres intéressante! Pour !l’ambassade , rien à faire.Elle n’aide pas dans ces cas là.La piste du passeport perdu...ils peuvent verifier que je suis rentré il y a 2 ans par avion...Sinon oui Sarawak, je suppose que je trouverai des locaux sur place pour m’aider.A plus :)
Maxou
voyage voyage
Deportation
On va plutôt dire expulsion.😉
On va plutôt dire expulsion.😉
200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
aux confins du Laos : CLIC
Et plutôt qu' "immigration" on dira plutôt " la police des frontières " (imigrasi en indonésien) ... Quoi que non c'est pas la police ... 🏴☠️
(t'inquiètes je fais souvent la même ... c'est la faute aux Indonésiens qui nous piquent plein de mots et qui les utilisent n'importe comment !!!!)
Je te réponds en MP demain soir ou samedi.
Tu parles indonésien j'espère ?
c'est une blague ? Plus de 6 mois c'est l'incarcération ...
Ou la peine de mort...
Ou la peine de mort...
aroythai
Overstaying votre visa pour moins de 60 jours
Le titulaire du visa sera condamné à une amende 300 000 Rp par jour. et peut être détenu pour un interrogatoire aussi. L'amende n'est pas un pot de vin, mais est une partie juridique du règlement d'un séjour prolongé. Prévoyez de payer l'amende officielle complète au bureau de l'immigration.Overstaying votre visa pour plus de 60 jours
Un séjour prolongé de plus de 60 jours est une question plus grave. Le titulaire du visa sera
aroythai
L'amende peut aller jusqu'à a 500 000 000 roupies soit 30 000 euros
Emprisonnant de 5 ans
aroythai
Pas le choix ? Un an d'overstay ?
Serieusement ..... ?
Je vois pas ce qui peut te retenir la bas un an après la fin de ton visa.. A moins d'être recherché par la police je ne comprends pas la ! Car prendre l'avion pour 15€pour Kuala Lumpur, et revenir 4 jours plus tards avec un passeport de 2 mois en Indonesie, tout le monde peut le faire...
Je veux dire, en un an, passeport perdu, plus d'argent, ou autres, tu as LARGEMENT le temps de contacter ton ambassade....
Et ne pas croire que l'excuse du passeport perdu aidera, l’immigration et les ambassades ont un fichier ou votre visa est visible en clair dessus.
Et ne me sorts pas l'excuse du volcan, il y'a eu de multiple ouverture de l'aéroport en 1 an.
Tu peux contacté l'ambassade de France, c'est pas dans leur intérêt que tu finisse en taule en indonesie, par contre tu va très probablement écoper d'une amende ... Titanesque ...
Si tu choisi la voix de l'illégalité en fuyant a pieds.. Bonne chance a toi ! Si tu es choppé coté Malaisie, tu sera probablement expulsé et blacklist. Si t'es choppé coté Indonésie, l'immigrasi verra tout dessuite ta situation et la je suis certains que ce sera la prison pour probablement quelques années le temps que le gouvernement français te sorte de la. Si bien entendu tu ne te fais pas "entuber" par les locaux qui auront promis de te conduire a la frontière d'ici la...
Oui je parait agressif, mais ce genre de comportement stupide est ce qui rends les entrées/sorties dans les pays du monde de plus en plus difficile au fil des ans en créant des troubles diplomatiques...
Je vois pas ce qui peut te retenir la bas un an après la fin de ton visa.. A moins d'être recherché par la police je ne comprends pas la ! Car prendre l'avion pour 15€pour Kuala Lumpur, et revenir 4 jours plus tards avec un passeport de 2 mois en Indonesie, tout le monde peut le faire...
Je veux dire, en un an, passeport perdu, plus d'argent, ou autres, tu as LARGEMENT le temps de contacter ton ambassade....
Et ne pas croire que l'excuse du passeport perdu aidera, l’immigration et les ambassades ont un fichier ou votre visa est visible en clair dessus.
Et ne me sorts pas l'excuse du volcan, il y'a eu de multiple ouverture de l'aéroport en 1 an.
Tu peux contacté l'ambassade de France, c'est pas dans leur intérêt que tu finisse en taule en indonesie, par contre tu va très probablement écoper d'une amende ... Titanesque ...
Si tu choisi la voix de l'illégalité en fuyant a pieds.. Bonne chance a toi ! Si tu es choppé coté Malaisie, tu sera probablement expulsé et blacklist. Si t'es choppé coté Indonésie, l'immigrasi verra tout dessuite ta situation et la je suis certains que ce sera la prison pour probablement quelques années le temps que le gouvernement français te sorte de la. Si bien entendu tu ne te fais pas "entuber" par les locaux qui auront promis de te conduire a la frontière d'ici la...
Oui je parait agressif, mais ce genre de comportement stupide est ce qui rends les entrées/sorties dans les pays du monde de plus en plus difficile au fil des ans en créant des troubles diplomatiques...
bonjour
tu t'es tromper pour l'envoi du message , pas pour moi ....😏
tu t'es tromper pour l'envoi du message , pas pour moi ....😏
aroythai
Bonjour
Je suis du meme avis....1 an d'overstay a Bali.....contre son gré donc....j'aimerais bien connaitre la raison....
Bonjour
Je crois qu'on est tombé sur un troll de première classe....
Je crois qu'on est tombé sur un troll de première classe....
aroythai
Salut
@Maxou6669: je ne peut pas t aider, dslé... Un depassement d un an c est énorme tu astes raisons et tes choix..... Bon courage
Pour ma part, je me suis betement trompé lors de l achat de mes billets d avions, dans la precipitation... 😮 ( 60 jours c est pas 2 mois...). Du coup j ai 4 jours d overstay a devoir regler le 6 decembre... Vu que j enchaine le meme jour sur 3 transferts pour rentrer en France, je flippe un peu que l Immigration me retienne trop longtemps et de louper mes correspondances......
@Maxou6669: je ne peut pas t aider, dslé... Un depassement d un an c est énorme tu astes raisons et tes choix..... Bon courage
Pour ma part, je me suis betement trompé lors de l achat de mes billets d avions, dans la precipitation... 😮 ( 60 jours c est pas 2 mois...). Du coup j ai 4 jours d overstay a devoir regler le 6 decembre... Vu que j enchaine le meme jour sur 3 transferts pour rentrer en France, je flippe un peu que l Immigration me retienne trop longtemps et de louper mes correspondances......
Bonjour à tous et à tous ceux qui m'ont encouragé et aidé !je me suis finalement rendu à l'immigration, ils m'ont gardé une semaine, dans un hôtel à côté et après enquête sur mon faux visa m'ont raccompagné à l'aéroport et renvoyé à kL, Malaisie !ouf, ça été dur mais je m'en sort très bien, un grand merci également à madame notre consul qui a insisté sur ma maladie et certainement ainsi obtenu ma relaxe, un grand merci aussi à tous les indonésiens qui m'ont compris et aidé!terima kasih baniak
À bientôt car dès que je peux bien sûr j er entre chez moi..à Bali 🙏♥️💋
Maxou
Non mais je rêve apres 1 ans d'overdtay tu peut oublié bali et l'indonesie tu est blacklisté a vie. Tu sera interdit de territoire. Tu aurai depuis longtemps regagné ton pays. Et tes excuses ne sont pas valables.
Un rapatriement sanitaire ca existe et partir avec une assurance c'est le minimum.
Je te souhaite de rentré sagement en france et de respecter les règles du pays ou tu est la prochaine fois
Cédric,
Je ne pensais pas que des barges existaient réellement, mais là avec le ouistiti qui veut rentrer à Bali, nous avons atteint des sommets. C'est sûr que toutes ces destinations exotiques font espérer à ces anciens , une fin de vie heureuse entourée de jolies jeunes femmes très amoureuses. Mais hélas, la réalité est toute autre quand il arrive des ennuis de santé. Quant à oublier de refaire prolonger son visa , cela semble de la folie plus que de l'ignorance. Peut être avait il besoin de s'éloigner au plus loin de la France?
Non mais on est face à de la folie et de l'inconscience la car en etant francais certain pensent que l'etat leur viendra en aide si ils sont dans la m&@#$ comme le grand rapatriement des français de bali le prouve encore une fois des idiots qui sont parti debut mars en sachant pertinament que la situation allait se détérioré. Ca m'énerve l'égoïsme permanent de ses touristes qui mettent en danger les population locales aussi. Moi je t'aurai affréter un vol mais pas pour la France plutôt poir les foutre en quarantaine sur une ile déserte ca leur aurai fait les pieds.
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From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.




