Parcourir le GR 20 dans quel sens?
by Pleinenature
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Nous voulons commencer par la moitié sud , réputée plus facile, la question : vaux-t-il mieux faire sud/nord ou nord/sud ?
Salut!
Perso je te conseille nord-sud. Les étapes du nord sont pas faciles et il est préférable d'être encore frais pour les aborder. En plus comme ça le sud te paraît tranquille après...
Mais c'est personnel. Si tu préfères commencer par le dessert, commence par le sud ;-)
Bonjour,
Nous voulons commencer par la moitié sud , réputée plus facile, la question : vaux-t-il mieux faire sud/nord ou nord/sud ?
Oui je confirme.A mon avis il est plus judicieux , pour plein de raisons , de commencer par le nord;
Oui je confirme.A mon avis il est plus judicieux , pour plein de raisons , de commencer par le nord;
Bonjour,
juste un avis, du sud au nord.
La partie sud étant moins technique, il y a une progression dans la difficulté.
Et petit plus non négligeable, en partant du sud, tu marches le soleil dans le dos.
Aimer est le grand point, qu'importe la destination.
Qu'importe le voyage, pourvu qu'on ait l'exaltation.
À la manière de...
Entièrement d'accord avec Tomoka. Pour les deux raisons !
"Celui qui a atteint son but a manqué tout le reste"
bon, 2 partout, le choix va être compliqué !!😄
Soit
Soluce 1 tu es comme les autres et tu te ranges dans la majorité, obéissante que tu es : départ du nord, c'est comme la transhumance. Avantage, tu ne croises que quelques anticonformistes (voir soluce 2) et tu ne dis pas "bonjour" dans toutes les langues à chaque marquage rouge-blanc.
Ou Soluce 2 : Tu n'aimes pas suivre le peuple (d'ailleurs, tu n'as pas voté pour un des deux candidats gagnants au premier tour, juste pour montrer que "merd'koi, le petit ouvrier, il en a aussi, j'vote lui") par principe, pour te sentir plus libre et t'as raison : départ de Conca (sud). Avantage, tu peux dire à ceux que tu croises "houlàlà, le refuge d'où je viens a été plastiqué cette nuit" et tu peux te renseigner sur le refuge d'où ils viennent, du genre "t'as pas été malade après ton repas d'hier soir ? C'est mieux dedans ou sous une tente près des latrines pour dormir?"
Ou Soluce 2 : Tu n'aimes pas suivre le peuple (d'ailleurs, tu n'as pas voté pour un des deux candidats gagnants au premier tour, juste pour montrer que "merd'koi, le petit ouvrier, il en a aussi, j'vote lui") par principe, pour te sentir plus libre et t'as raison : départ de Conca (sud). Avantage, tu peux dire à ceux que tu croises "houlàlà, le refuge d'où je viens a été plastiqué cette nuit" et tu peux te renseigner sur le refuge d'où ils viennent, du genre "t'as pas été malade après ton repas d'hier soir ? C'est mieux dedans ou sous une tente près des latrines pour dormir?"
"Celui qui a atteint son but a manqué tout le reste"
Peu importe en fait : le choix de la marche à reculons est souvent une bonne alternative aux inconvénients ci-dessus évoqués : plus de soleil dans les yeux, plus de "bonjour" en boucle tout au long de la journée, et en prime un dernier avantage : le port du sac à dos sur le ventre complète à souhait la qualité de l'exercice physique !
Pas mal l'idée d'aller à reculon ! Ça fait style "quand tu t'en vas, on dirait que tu reviens".
"Celui qui a atteint son but a manqué tout le reste"
Merci à tous pour vos éclairages ( oups ! ), merci à Chnoupi qui oui, parait en forme. Il l'a connait par coeur son île, sans doute ....
Je crois que je vais rester sur ma 1ère idée (oui, je suis une rebelle !!! ), et faire sud / nord..😊
Bonjour,
Nous voulons commencer par la moitié sud , réputée plus facile, la question : vaux-t-il mieux faire sud/nord ou nord/sud ?
Salut dis moi votre projet et de faire le gr 20 dans sa totalité ou juste la moitié!!! c vrai que la partie sud nord est plus facile que l'inverse moins technique aussi!!!!!Si tu envisages le sens nord sud il faut juste que tu sache que tu attaques direct la partie la plus difficile et technique du gr20 jusqu'au 6eme jour env!!!Moi je préfére la partie nord sud car attaquer les cheminées depuis le haut pour les descendres et plus difficile que de devoir les monter!!! N'oublies pas sac le plus leger possible, de tres bonnes chaussures, des bon gants de via ferrata car sur les 6 premiers jours sens Nord sud tu as souvent contact avec la roche et de bon batons essentiel a la descente avec le poids du sac qui pousse!!lol et bonne rando a vous!!!Moi je l'attaque à nouveau cet été à compter du 6 aout sens nord sud sur 15 jours de rando!!!!philippe
Salut dis moi votre projet et de faire le gr 20 dans sa totalité ou juste la moitié!!! c vrai que la partie sud nord est plus facile que l'inverse moins technique aussi!!!!!Si tu envisages le sens nord sud il faut juste que tu sache que tu attaques direct la partie la plus difficile et technique du gr20 jusqu'au 6eme jour env!!!Moi je préfére la partie nord sud car attaquer les cheminées depuis le haut pour les descendres et plus difficile que de devoir les monter!!! N'oublies pas sac le plus leger possible, de tres bonnes chaussures, des bon gants de via ferrata car sur les 6 premiers jours sens Nord sud tu as souvent contact avec la roche et de bon batons essentiel a la descente avec le poids du sac qui pousse!!lol et bonne rando a vous!!!Moi je l'attaque à nouveau cet été à compter du 6 aout sens nord sud sur 15 jours de rando!!!!philippe
Bonjour,
Le sens sud nord? c'est un peu comme marcher à l'inverse de la rotation de la terre, ou à l'inverse du soleil... d'ouest en est!... 🤪
Il y aurait même parait-il un effet négatif sur l'organisme!.... (Personnellement je ne l'ai pas vérifié). Dans les alpes j'ai toujours préféré "nord - sud" : c'est plus motivant, et çà me met en joie de descendre vers la mer avec le soleil en face, que de remonter dans la grisaille avec le soleil dans le dos! 😏
Pour le GR20, je l'ai fait il y a 20 ans : et si je devais le refaire je re-voterais Nord-Sud. En Corse il n'est pas question de grisaille : il fait aussi beau à Calenzana qu'à Conca, mais je pense qu'il est préfèrable d'avoir les difficultés au début. Même si certains considèrent qu'en partant du sud c'est plus facile, il faut savoir qu'au bout d'une semaine de marche, et avec la fatigue, le fait d'attaquer un terrain plus difficile et plus délicat peut poser des problèmes à certains...
Quant à l'idée qui consiste à croire qu'en faisant une rando dans le sens inverse de sa description, on trouve moins de monde dans les refuges..... Euuhhh! je me demande quelle est cette invention ; la seule différence est qu'on ne retrouve pas les mêmes qui ont ronflé les nuits précédentes, mais il y a toujours autant de monde, et dans un sens ou dans l'autre, les étapes sont les mêmes à + - 1 heure près. 😉
Ce que je dis là n'est que mon avis, et quoi qu'il en soit chacun voit midi à sa montre, .... mais ne pas oublier, qu'avec le nord en face, on a le sud-O-Q.... 😉
Jean-Claude 😎
Pour le GR20, je l'ai fait il y a 20 ans : et si je devais le refaire je re-voterais Nord-Sud. En Corse il n'est pas question de grisaille : il fait aussi beau à Calenzana qu'à Conca, mais je pense qu'il est préfèrable d'avoir les difficultés au début. Même si certains considèrent qu'en partant du sud c'est plus facile, il faut savoir qu'au bout d'une semaine de marche, et avec la fatigue, le fait d'attaquer un terrain plus difficile et plus délicat peut poser des problèmes à certains...
Quant à l'idée qui consiste à croire qu'en faisant une rando dans le sens inverse de sa description, on trouve moins de monde dans les refuges..... Euuhhh! je me demande quelle est cette invention ; la seule différence est qu'on ne retrouve pas les mêmes qui ont ronflé les nuits précédentes, mais il y a toujours autant de monde, et dans un sens ou dans l'autre, les étapes sont les mêmes à + - 1 heure près. 😉
Ce que je dis là n'est que mon avis, et quoi qu'il en soit chacun voit midi à sa montre, .... mais ne pas oublier, qu'avec le nord en face, on a le sud-O-Q.... 😉
Jean-Claude 😎
Finalement, dans un sens ou un autre, chacun fait à sa guise :
- sud->nord = facile à difficile et soleil dans le dos
- nord->sud = difficile à facile et soleil en face.
Pour moins de monde dan un sens ou un autre, c'est du kifkif 😏 C'est comme ceux qui croient qu'en Corse, il y a plus de montées que de descentes 🤪 !
Par contre, pour avoir moins de monde dans les refuges et sur le GR, il faut partir du nord mais 2 ou 3 jours après la transhumance-randonneuse qui se fait généralement au départ de Calenzana le samedi, dimanche ou lundi.
"Celui qui a atteint son but a manqué tout le reste"
Finalement, dans un sens ou un autre, chacun fait à sa guise :
- sud->nord = facile à difficile et soleil dans le dos
- nord->sud = difficile à facile et soleil en face.
Pour moins de monde dan un sens ou un autre, c'est du kifkif 😏 C'est comme ceux qui croient qu'en Corse, il y a plus de montées que de descentes 🤪 !
Par contre, pour avoir moins de monde dans les refuges et sur le GR, il faut partir du nord mais 2 ou 3 jours après la transhumance-randonneuse qui se fait généralement au départ de Calenzana le samedi, dimanche ou lundi.
"Celui qui a atteint son but a manqué tout le reste"
Merci Jean-Claude,
Tout ça m'éclaire un peu plus ! 😎 Je dois réunir encore pas mal d'infos avant de me lancer, il me semble !!
Tout ça m'éclaire un peu plus ! 😎 Je dois réunir encore pas mal d'infos avant de me lancer, il me semble !!
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However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
Hi there,
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.






