Partir en couple au Vietnam
by Sourcil
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour ca y est apres quelques temps d'hesitation mon mari et moi avaons decidés de partir au vietnam. nous avons 15 jours de conges je sais c'est peu mais nous allons essaye de grignoter quelques jours de plus mais ce n'ai pas evident ; j'aumerai savoir si partir quetous les 2 reviens reelemen moins cher c'est a dir nous prendrions nos vols secs et ensuite nos sacs a dos et en avant (j'aurai etabli un itineraire au prealable )pour se loger se deplacer et manger est ce que que ca sera facile ? j'ai demandé quelques devi mais je trouve que ce n'est pas donné alors c'est pour cela que je m'adresse ici voila et bien merci a tous ceux qui me repondrons a tres bientot
Bonjour,
Je pense que vous hésitez entre partir en individuel et partir en circuit organisé ? - rien de comparable ni pour le prix ni pour le charme..
Dans un circuit organisé, vous n'avez pas à effectuer de recherches et tout est compris - vous verrez le principal de ce qu'il y a à voir, vous aurez une chambre confortable le soir lorsque vous serez fatigués.. et que vous aurez envie d'une bonne douche et d'un bon repas; ce n'est pas systématiquement le cas en individuel : bon, ça fait des souvenirs les difficultés rencontrées pour se loger ou pour aller voir un site précis.. 😇
Pour ce qui est du prix, ayant fait les deux plusieurs fois, le circuit organisé coûte moins cher, compte tenu des prestations qui y sont incluses (le vol obtenu par le voyagiste revient moins cher puisqu'il l'obtient au prix "groupe"-) je sais que je ne vais pas faire l'unanimité, mais c'est réel - maintenant, c'est une question d'âge et de caractère : on peut préférer voyager en individuel.. -
Bonne journée - Kimtwo -
Je pense que vous hésitez entre partir en individuel et partir en circuit organisé ? - rien de comparable ni pour le prix ni pour le charme..
Dans un circuit organisé, vous n'avez pas à effectuer de recherches et tout est compris - vous verrez le principal de ce qu'il y a à voir, vous aurez une chambre confortable le soir lorsque vous serez fatigués.. et que vous aurez envie d'une bonne douche et d'un bon repas; ce n'est pas systématiquement le cas en individuel : bon, ça fait des souvenirs les difficultés rencontrées pour se loger ou pour aller voir un site précis.. 😇
Pour ce qui est du prix, ayant fait les deux plusieurs fois, le circuit organisé coûte moins cher, compte tenu des prestations qui y sont incluses (le vol obtenu par le voyagiste revient moins cher puisqu'il l'obtient au prix "groupe"-) je sais que je ne vais pas faire l'unanimité, mais c'est réel - maintenant, c'est une question d'âge et de caractère : on peut préférer voyager en individuel.. -
Bonne journée - Kimtwo -
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
bonjour
pas de soucis pour partir en couple en individuel
a conditions qu'au moins l'un de vous parle l'anglais surtout pour les resrvations d hotels et de transports sur place de ville en ville
cela est sur bien moins cher que de prendre un tour operateur qui prendra son % en tre autre sur les chambres d hotels et a vous de negocier les tarifs
en ce qui concerne les repas et es visites a vous de choisir
sur 15 jour cela parait un peut cours en sachant que on perd une journee a l aller et pareil au retour dans l' avion a vous de bien calculer pour le billet d avion et de se renseigner sur place si vous avez la posibilte de prendre un vol interne car meme en un peut plus de deux semaines vous ne verrez pas tout
meme en allant vite et en reduisant les etapes
bonne etude et a bientot
bonne etude et a bientot
aroythai
bonjour
je suis un peut surpris par ton post au sujet des agences de voyages
certe il on un petit prix pour les vols mais en aucun cas il non le droit de le vendre moins cher que ceux qui sont pratiquer en individuel ou alors ils risue de perdre la licence pour par les compagnies d avions
en ce qui concerne l hotel ( pour mon cas ) ils prennent un supplement pour les personnes seuls alors que dans les hotels en individuels cela nexiste pas et meme le contraire lus cher quans la chambre est occupe par deux personnes
certe en circuit tout est compris mais malheureusement trop rapide a mon gout et j ai fait plus destinations dans pas mal de pays
voila merci
voila merci
aroythai
merci pour ces precisions ; en fait non on ne parle pas du tout anglais notre anglais est tres scolaire! mais c'est vrai que quand je compare les tarifs des TO ca me dresse les cheveux sur la tete nous avon 35 ans ts les 2 et il est vrai que de partir seul de nous fait pas peur je m'occupeai de tt reserver (ou pas mal de choses ) de la france mais c'est vrai que les TO vous prepare tout mais cela a un cout . en plus je souhaite faire un voyage ou je veux pouvoir prendre mon temps a regarder ce qui m'interresse . en fait je voudrai savoir aussi si je peux reserver sur place au fur et a mesure que j'avance dans le pays ; car si une ville me plait et que fibalement je souhaite reserter un jour de plus puis je avoir ce choix de choisir et ne pas me retrouver a chercher vite fait quelque chose et me faire arnaquer ! merci a vous c'est sympa de nous eclairer
ok tres bien
moi aussi je ne parle pas l anglais mais j arrive a me debrouiller ( sauf par tel)
un petit dico serait tres utile
bye
un petit dico serait tres utile
bye
aroythai
Re,
Toutes les formules se défendent.. et je n'ai pas l'habitude d'ouvrir de polémique.. vous pourrez retenir l'hôtel au fur et à mesure (selon l'époque) car dans les grandes villes ou villes touristiques que vous visiterez il y a beaucoup d'hôtels et on arrive, plus ou moins bien, à trouver un hébergement -
Pour ce que vous voulez retenir de France, les hôtels je pense, n'hésitez pas en en retenir 2 ! car par expérience, et encore cette année, lorsque vous arrivez la chambre n'est pas disponible..- comme généralement la réservation se fait par mail sans acompte, prenez vos précautions ou vous allez vous retrouver comme nous cette année devant un réceptionniste qui va vous dire "j'ai un petit problème" - à vrai dire, le problème il sera pour vous !...🙁
Quant aux excursions, style Baie d'Ha Long ou Baie d'Along terrestre, et même Sapa vous avez souvent intérêt (financier) à les prendre par l'hôtel : ils ont tellement de types d'excursions que vous trouverez probablement celui qui vous convient. - votre anglais, même scolaire, vous aidera car les trajets sont indiqués par ECRIT.,
Je vous précise quand même à titre d'exemple que nous payons le vol aller retour paris-Hanoi 1160€ par personne sur Vietnam Airlines, par personne, et que nous avons fait un circuit de 15 jours pour 1700€ par personne tout compris, vol, hôtels, nourriture, transports, excursions et assurances, tout en français !et que nous en avons ramené de très bon amis...
Kimtwo -
Toutes les formules se défendent.. et je n'ai pas l'habitude d'ouvrir de polémique.. vous pourrez retenir l'hôtel au fur et à mesure (selon l'époque) car dans les grandes villes ou villes touristiques que vous visiterez il y a beaucoup d'hôtels et on arrive, plus ou moins bien, à trouver un hébergement -
Pour ce que vous voulez retenir de France, les hôtels je pense, n'hésitez pas en en retenir 2 ! car par expérience, et encore cette année, lorsque vous arrivez la chambre n'est pas disponible..- comme généralement la réservation se fait par mail sans acompte, prenez vos précautions ou vous allez vous retrouver comme nous cette année devant un réceptionniste qui va vous dire "j'ai un petit problème" - à vrai dire, le problème il sera pour vous !...🙁
Quant aux excursions, style Baie d'Ha Long ou Baie d'Along terrestre, et même Sapa vous avez souvent intérêt (financier) à les prendre par l'hôtel : ils ont tellement de types d'excursions que vous trouverez probablement celui qui vous convient. - votre anglais, même scolaire, vous aidera car les trajets sont indiqués par ECRIT.,
Je vous précise quand même à titre d'exemple que nous payons le vol aller retour paris-Hanoi 1160€ par personne sur Vietnam Airlines, par personne, et que nous avons fait un circuit de 15 jours pour 1700€ par personne tout compris, vol, hôtels, nourriture, transports, excursions et assurances, tout en français !et que nous en avons ramené de très bon amis...
Kimtwo -
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
merci beaucoup mais 1700 euros par personne vous avez fait tout seul, ? car je trouve ca pas tres cadeau quand meme je lis partout que l'on peux manger pour tres peu et dormir aussi qu'est ce qui fait que le prix augmente merci je me rsseigne pour etablir un budget aussi . pour e qui est des reservations sur vietnam airlines vous faites par le net? merci a vous
Re,
D'abord Vietnam Airlines : on ne peut pas réserver sur le net - regardez leur site, ils ne vendent que par les agences -
Les 1700 € par personne, c'est le prix que nous avons payé pour un voyage organisé de 15 jours, tout compris ainsi que je vous l'ai dit -
Le prix du vol était cette année de 1160€ par personne pour un Paris-Hanoi AR -
Sur place, c'est vrai que par rapport à la France, c'est beaucoup moins cher, mais la vie a quand même beaucoup augmenté depuis le début de l'année - un exemple pour vous aider à faire votre budget : la chambre, style routard, sympa mais simple sans prétention : 10 à 15 $ - plus chère sur les lieux touristiques - un plat du jour dans un restaurant, style bun bo kho (nouilles sautées avec herbes et un peu de boeuf coupé en lanières) 3 $ par personne, un pho (soupe hanoïenne) 1$50 par personne, les transports en bus de ville (si vous arrivez à vous faire comprendre..) 3000 dongs (1/4 de $ par personne le ticket ) la bouteille d'eau - 1 litre 25 - car l'eau n'est absolument pas potable : la canette de coca :1/2 $ - un morceau de pain (banh mi) vendu dans la rue bien que celà soit interdit depuis cette année ( y a pas de boulangerie à Hanoi) 2000 dongs, soit 1/8e de $
Je vous détaille tout cela pour vous montrer qu'au bout du compte, tout a un prix.
Si vous avez besoin d'autres choses, demandez-le moi - je vous renseignerais volontiers -
Kimtwo -
D'abord Vietnam Airlines : on ne peut pas réserver sur le net - regardez leur site, ils ne vendent que par les agences -
Les 1700 € par personne, c'est le prix que nous avons payé pour un voyage organisé de 15 jours, tout compris ainsi que je vous l'ai dit -
Le prix du vol était cette année de 1160€ par personne pour un Paris-Hanoi AR -
Sur place, c'est vrai que par rapport à la France, c'est beaucoup moins cher, mais la vie a quand même beaucoup augmenté depuis le début de l'année - un exemple pour vous aider à faire votre budget : la chambre, style routard, sympa mais simple sans prétention : 10 à 15 $ - plus chère sur les lieux touristiques - un plat du jour dans un restaurant, style bun bo kho (nouilles sautées avec herbes et un peu de boeuf coupé en lanières) 3 $ par personne, un pho (soupe hanoïenne) 1$50 par personne, les transports en bus de ville (si vous arrivez à vous faire comprendre..) 3000 dongs (1/4 de $ par personne le ticket ) la bouteille d'eau - 1 litre 25 - car l'eau n'est absolument pas potable : la canette de coca :1/2 $ - un morceau de pain (banh mi) vendu dans la rue bien que celà soit interdit depuis cette année ( y a pas de boulangerie à Hanoi) 2000 dongs, soit 1/8e de $
Je vous détaille tout cela pour vous montrer qu'au bout du compte, tout a un prix.
Si vous avez besoin d'autres choses, demandez-le moi - je vous renseignerais volontiers -
Kimtwo -
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Re,
Le prix de la bouteille d'eau s'est effacé : 1$50
Kimtwo -
Le prix de la bouteille d'eau s'est effacé : 1$50
Kimtwo -
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
En TO vous ne logez pas dans les GH routard ...Totalement d'accord avec ce que dit Kimtwo...Voyager seul, c'est être libre, voyager en TO c'est être confortable... au sens pris en charge !
Les Tarifs des grands hotels sont négociés, donc plus de luxe au meme prix !
Les Tarifs des grands hotels sont négociés, donc plus de luxe au meme prix !
Roger
Oh je ne défends pas les TO...Mais juste l'idée que vos 15 jours au vietnam, TO ou pas, vous coutera à peu près la même chose..c'est sur des séjours longs qu'il est nettement plus rentable de voyager seul...PS: j'ai horreur des TO et des endroits aseptisés !😉
Roger
Bonjour,
On est tout à fait sur la même ligne : comme nous passons 3 à 6 mois au Vietnam... se débrouiller seul.. c'est mieux et je n'aime pas mieux les TO que vous - mais pour la première fois en pays totalement étranger, surtout par la langue, c'est peut-être un plus..qui permet de revenir beaucoup plus détendu après !!😎
Bonne journée - Kimtwo -
On est tout à fait sur la même ligne : comme nous passons 3 à 6 mois au Vietnam... se débrouiller seul.. c'est mieux et je n'aime pas mieux les TO que vous - mais pour la première fois en pays totalement étranger, surtout par la langue, c'est peut-être un plus..qui permet de revenir beaucoup plus détendu après !!😎
Bonne journée - Kimtwo -
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Hello Kim,
Merci pour l'humour, j'ai adore :
vous allez vous retrouver comme nous cette année devant un réceptionniste qui va vous dire "j'ai un petit problème" - à vrai dire, le problème il sera pour vous !...🙁
Mis a part ca, je pense qu'il suffit de reserver la premiere nuit (arrivee du vol = fatigue) et de trouver un hotel au fur et a mesure (sauf pendant le Tet ou c'est quand meme plus difficile, meme si realisable). A CONDITION d'avoir l'habitude de voyager, d'etre capable de se contenter de ce qu'on trouve et d'etre philosophe 😏😏
J'ai teste les reservations par internet (deux fois) et j'en ai ete tres decue. Comme tu dis, si on ne veut pas se prendre la tete, rien de tel qu'un voyage organise (en prive ou en groupe selon le budget et les envies), mais effectivement CA A UN COUT, normal, on ne travaille pas pour des prunes (d'ailleurs ici, il n'y en a pas😉)
Bonne journee, Pat
Merci pour l'humour, j'ai adore :
vous allez vous retrouver comme nous cette année devant un réceptionniste qui va vous dire "j'ai un petit problème" - à vrai dire, le problème il sera pour vous !...🙁
Mis a part ca, je pense qu'il suffit de reserver la premiere nuit (arrivee du vol = fatigue) et de trouver un hotel au fur et a mesure (sauf pendant le Tet ou c'est quand meme plus difficile, meme si realisable). A CONDITION d'avoir l'habitude de voyager, d'etre capable de se contenter de ce qu'on trouve et d'etre philosophe 😏😏
J'ai teste les reservations par internet (deux fois) et j'en ai ete tres decue. Comme tu dis, si on ne veut pas se prendre la tete, rien de tel qu'un voyage organise (en prive ou en groupe selon le budget et les envies), mais effectivement CA A UN COUT, normal, on ne travaille pas pour des prunes (d'ailleurs ici, il n'y en a pas😉)
Bonne journee, Pat
Bonjour sourcil,
je lis partout que l'on peux manger pour tres peu et dormir aussi
Partout on raconte n'importe quoi. Tout depend de ce que tu appelles "tres peu". Comme l'a dit Kimtwo, les prix augmentent a la vitesse grand V et l'inflation au VN est galopante (quand je dis "inflation", je parle de ce que je vois dans les magasins et sur les marches, je n'y connais rien aux finances).
Ici a Nha Trang, par exemple, il y a eu un "renouvellement des cartes" dans de nombreux restaurants. TOUT a augmente de 5 a 10 % Je ne sais pas ce qu'il en est dans les autres villes, mais ici, chez les "riches", ca vole de plus en plus haut question prix. A Saigon, il est tres difficile de trouver une chambre en-dessous des 20 USD si on veut quelque chose de propre et pas trop loin du centre. Ca existe, je ne le nie pas, mais si vous ne connaissez pas l'ASE et son mode de vie, il vaut mieux tabler un minimum de confort au debut.
Bonne nouvelle, le prix de l'essence a diminue, mais par contre, l'Euro est tres bas (entre 20.500 et 21.500 VND pour 1 EUR). L' USD reste stable +/- 16.000 a 16.500 VND.
je lis partout que l'on peux manger pour tres peu et dormir aussi
Partout on raconte n'importe quoi. Tout depend de ce que tu appelles "tres peu". Comme l'a dit Kimtwo, les prix augmentent a la vitesse grand V et l'inflation au VN est galopante (quand je dis "inflation", je parle de ce que je vois dans les magasins et sur les marches, je n'y connais rien aux finances).
Ici a Nha Trang, par exemple, il y a eu un "renouvellement des cartes" dans de nombreux restaurants. TOUT a augmente de 5 a 10 % Je ne sais pas ce qu'il en est dans les autres villes, mais ici, chez les "riches", ca vole de plus en plus haut question prix. A Saigon, il est tres difficile de trouver une chambre en-dessous des 20 USD si on veut quelque chose de propre et pas trop loin du centre. Ca existe, je ne le nie pas, mais si vous ne connaissez pas l'ASE et son mode de vie, il vaut mieux tabler un minimum de confort au debut.
Bonne nouvelle, le prix de l'essence a diminue, mais par contre, l'Euro est tres bas (entre 20.500 et 21.500 VND pour 1 EUR). L' USD reste stable +/- 16.000 a 16.500 VND.
Salut Aroythai,
Une petite precision
en ce qui concerne l hotel ( pour mon cas ) ils prennent un supplement pour les personnes seuls alors que dans les hotels en individuels cela nexiste pas et meme le contraire lus cher quans la chambre est occupe par deux personnes
ceci est valable pour les circuits EN GROUPE. Normal, commercialement parlant, ils "perdent" une place et donc le prix negocie est "a perte" pour l'organisateur qui doit s'y retrouver. Je ne dis pas que j'approuve (j'ai voyage seule aussi), mais ce n'est pas une "arnaque", c'est la realite du commerce. Grrr.... qu'est-ce que j'ai rale dans le temps de ne pouvoir m'offrir les "last minutes" pour trois fois rien 😕😕😠
certe en circuit tout est compris mais malheureusement trop rapide a mon gout et j ai fait plus destinations dans pas mal de pays
Je pense que Kim voyage en voiture privee avec chauffeur, ce qui lui permet de s'arreter ou et quand elle veut. Ca aussi, ca a un cout et je trouve que celui de son tour etait vraiment bon marche si le vol etait compris.
Bon voyage aux Philippines (si j'ai bien lu). Reviens nous avec des commentaires.
Cordialement, Pat
Une petite precision
en ce qui concerne l hotel ( pour mon cas ) ils prennent un supplement pour les personnes seuls alors que dans les hotels en individuels cela nexiste pas et meme le contraire lus cher quans la chambre est occupe par deux personnes
ceci est valable pour les circuits EN GROUPE. Normal, commercialement parlant, ils "perdent" une place et donc le prix negocie est "a perte" pour l'organisateur qui doit s'y retrouver. Je ne dis pas que j'approuve (j'ai voyage seule aussi), mais ce n'est pas une "arnaque", c'est la realite du commerce. Grrr.... qu'est-ce que j'ai rale dans le temps de ne pouvoir m'offrir les "last minutes" pour trois fois rien 😕😕😠
certe en circuit tout est compris mais malheureusement trop rapide a mon gout et j ai fait plus destinations dans pas mal de pays
Je pense que Kim voyage en voiture privee avec chauffeur, ce qui lui permet de s'arreter ou et quand elle veut. Ca aussi, ca a un cout et je trouve que celui de son tour etait vraiment bon marche si le vol etait compris.
Bon voyage aux Philippines (si j'ai bien lu). Reviens nous avec des commentaires.
Cordialement, Pat
Bonjour,
J'ai passé 4 semaines au Vietnam en Août 2008 en solo avec une copine.
Nous avions dépensé sur place environ 800 euro par personne en 4 semaines. Sans nous priver de rien ! Les petits resto sympas en alternance avec les simples resto de rue, les hotels un peu "luxe" de temps en temps à 25USD, la location de 2 motos avec chauffeurs pour la journée à deux reprises afin de sortir un peu des sentiers battus, la gastronomie à Hue, les taxis, les sleeping bus confortables pour les longs trajets. Nous avons fait appel à une agence locale (ODC travel, parfait) pour les mini tours à Sapa et en Baie d'Halong.
C'était assez facile et nous étions deux femmes seules, aucun problème.
Maintenant, chacun a sa propre faculté de débrouillardise et de patience pour trouver les meilleurs solutions. Pour trouver les hotels, nous avons commencé par reserver les premières nuits à Hanoi depuis Paris via le net. Après deux solutions: Reserver d'un hotel pour l'hotel suivant par téléphone ou bien, en arrivant dans une ville, laisser ses bagages dans un café pour voyageurs et aller chercher tranquillement son hotel les mains libres. Cette dernière solution permet de visiter plusieurs chambres et d'être en meilleure position pour négocier les prix que lorsque l'on arrive chargés comme des baudets et l'air aux aboies dans un hotel !😉
J'ai passé 4 semaines au Vietnam en Août 2008 en solo avec une copine.
Nous avions dépensé sur place environ 800 euro par personne en 4 semaines. Sans nous priver de rien ! Les petits resto sympas en alternance avec les simples resto de rue, les hotels un peu "luxe" de temps en temps à 25USD, la location de 2 motos avec chauffeurs pour la journée à deux reprises afin de sortir un peu des sentiers battus, la gastronomie à Hue, les taxis, les sleeping bus confortables pour les longs trajets. Nous avons fait appel à une agence locale (ODC travel, parfait) pour les mini tours à Sapa et en Baie d'Halong.
C'était assez facile et nous étions deux femmes seules, aucun problème.
Maintenant, chacun a sa propre faculté de débrouillardise et de patience pour trouver les meilleurs solutions. Pour trouver les hotels, nous avons commencé par reserver les premières nuits à Hanoi depuis Paris via le net. Après deux solutions: Reserver d'un hotel pour l'hotel suivant par téléphone ou bien, en arrivant dans une ville, laisser ses bagages dans un café pour voyageurs et aller chercher tranquillement son hotel les mains libres. Cette dernière solution permet de visiter plusieurs chambres et d'être en meilleure position pour négocier les prix que lorsque l'on arrive chargés comme des baudets et l'air aux aboies dans un hotel !😉
Quand il n'y a pas de solution, c'est qu' il n'y a pas de problème !
Woody Allen
Hello Pat,
Allez, je te dis tout, j' y vais franco : mon avatar d'hôtel sans chambre retenue en mai, c'était bien ma PREMIERE nuit au Vietnam après le voyage de quelque 20 heures en provenance de France !!! de plus, il s'agissait de l'hôtel où nous avions passé 3 mois à l'automne dernier.. qui nous avait confirmé par mail notre réservation, qui nous connaissait bien.... et qui nous a tout de même laissés, nous, nos 60 kgs de sacs + les 2 sacs à dos dans la rue comme des SDF...
Le soir même il a compris sa bévue et nous a téléphoné sur notre portable dans le misérable hôtel où nous nous étions réfugiés pour nous dire que nous aurions "notre" chambre le lendemain matin -... alors, rassemblant toute ma haine et mon vietnamien naissant, je lui ai dit "nam sau" (next year) c'est à dire... JAMAIS 🙂🙂
Plus que 3 jours et tu files - bon vent - Amicalement - Kimtwo -
Allez, je te dis tout, j' y vais franco : mon avatar d'hôtel sans chambre retenue en mai, c'était bien ma PREMIERE nuit au Vietnam après le voyage de quelque 20 heures en provenance de France !!! de plus, il s'agissait de l'hôtel où nous avions passé 3 mois à l'automne dernier.. qui nous avait confirmé par mail notre réservation, qui nous connaissait bien.... et qui nous a tout de même laissés, nous, nos 60 kgs de sacs + les 2 sacs à dos dans la rue comme des SDF...
Le soir même il a compris sa bévue et nous a téléphoné sur notre portable dans le misérable hôtel où nous nous étions réfugiés pour nous dire que nous aurions "notre" chambre le lendemain matin -... alors, rassemblant toute ma haine et mon vietnamien naissant, je lui ai dit "nam sau" (next year) c'est à dire... JAMAIS 🙂🙂
Plus que 3 jours et tu files - bon vent - Amicalement - Kimtwo -
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Allez, je te dis tout, j' y vais franco : mon avatar d'hôtel sans chambre retenue en mai, c'était bien ma PREMIERE nuit au Vietnam après le voyage de quelque 20 heures en provenance de France !!! de plus, il s'agissait de l'hôtel où nous avions passé 3 mois à l'automne dernier.. qui nous avait confirmé par mail notre réservation, qui nous connaissait bien.... et qui nous a tout de même laissés, nous, nos 60 kgs de sacs + les 2 sacs à dos dans la rue comme des SDF...
MDR, il a du se maudire... et si sa femme est au courant, il en aura pris pour son grade 😏😏😏
Il y en a qq-uns ici a Nha Trang qui ont eu l'occasion de faire connaissance avec ma "rancune". "Tu me b... une fois, tu ne me vois plus jamais". et je tiens toujours parole.
MDR, il a du se maudire... et si sa femme est au courant, il en aura pris pour son grade 😏😏😏
Il y en a qq-uns ici a Nha Trang qui ont eu l'occasion de faire connaissance avec ma "rancune". "Tu me b... une fois, tu ne me vois plus jamais". et je tiens toujours parole.
bonjour
je suis desole je ne part pas aux philippines
mais en thailande au mois de mars 2009
toujours tres utile ce forum et en plus on rencontre des gens pres a tout pour vous renseigner sur les vol hotel circuit et cela dans tous les pays
tres content
mais en thailande au mois de mars 2009
toujours tres utile ce forum et en plus on rencontre des gens pres a tout pour vous renseigner sur les vol hotel circuit et cela dans tous les pays
tres content
aroythai
si partir quetous les 2 reviens reelemen moins cher c'est a dir nous prendrions nos vols secs et ensuite nos sacs a dos et en avant
Mon avis🙂
Le billet AR, vous pourriez le trouver à 800 Euros. Si vous le trouvez, c'est un bon test pour savoir si vous vous débrouillez bien.
Ensuite compter 50 euros par jour pour vous deux, cela vous fera 750 Euros pour 15 jours.
Un déplacement en avion de ligne intérieure vous coutera 150 Euros pour deux.
Au total, si vous arrivez, cela vous coutera 1600 + 750 + 150 :2500 Euros pour deux, sinon vous pouvez partir avec Auchan ou Leclerc!
Mon avis🙂
Le billet AR, vous pourriez le trouver à 800 Euros. Si vous le trouvez, c'est un bon test pour savoir si vous vous débrouillez bien.
Ensuite compter 50 euros par jour pour vous deux, cela vous fera 750 Euros pour 15 jours.
Un déplacement en avion de ligne intérieure vous coutera 150 Euros pour deux.
Au total, si vous arrivez, cela vous coutera 1600 + 750 + 150 :2500 Euros pour deux, sinon vous pouvez partir avec Auchan ou Leclerc!
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Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
eh oui deux semaines a phuket 7 au 21 mars 2009 ( repos bien merité)
et tres certainement a pattaya au mois de juillet 09 pour 4 semaines ( hotel je cherche encore !!! les amis du forum vont le le rappeler)
et tres certainement a pattaya au mois de juillet 09 pour 4 semaines ( hotel je cherche encore !!! les amis du forum vont le le rappeler)
aroythai
J'irais bien me reposer a Phuket aussi (meme si je suis sensee etre en vacances perpetuelles au Viet Nam😛). A Kata Beach, chez Paul, j'adooore !
Pattaya, connais pas, no comment sinon on est partis dans des post "a la (aux) noix".
Amuse-toi bien et profite de la vie a l'endroit ou a l'envers 😏😏😏
Amuse-toi bien et profite de la vie a l'endroit ou a l'envers 😏😏😏
Re,
Le prix donné n'était pas en voiture privée, mais en car normal où nous n'étions que 15, donc relativement cooconés - prix du vol compris - je m'appelle Kimtwo, pas de Rothschild !(le pire c'est que j'en connais, mais la fortune n'a pas déteint)
Pour ce qui est des arrêts si je veux, là ou je veux, il a fallu rester dans les limites du budget, donc : bus de ville, minibus pour Ha Long, Lang Son, Pagode Parfumée, et tout et tout - quant au guide, c'est mon traducteur-instantané de mari qui fait office - comme ça on peut tenir 3 ou 6 mois par an !!!
Kimtwo -
Le prix donné n'était pas en voiture privée, mais en car normal où nous n'étions que 15, donc relativement cooconés - prix du vol compris - je m'appelle Kimtwo, pas de Rothschild !(le pire c'est que j'en connais, mais la fortune n'a pas déteint)
Pour ce qui est des arrêts si je veux, là ou je veux, il a fallu rester dans les limites du budget, donc : bus de ville, minibus pour Ha Long, Lang Son, Pagode Parfumée, et tout et tout - quant au guide, c'est mon traducteur-instantané de mari qui fait office - comme ça on peut tenir 3 ou 6 mois par an !!!
Kimtwo -
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
pays merveilleux!!!tres facile!!prenez un routard ou petit futé et en avant!!!!!
c est superbe pour qui sait l apprecier!!!!
voyager avec le train du nord au sud !!!!!arretez vs a Hué a hoi han!!!!
j y suis allée avec mon fils sans voyage organisé c est trop bien!!!!et bon marché!!!
bon voyage!!!
Martine
Bonjour,
J'envisage de partir 4 à 5 semaines au Viêt-nam en couple.
Au sujet des moyens de locomotions, pour aller du Sud au Nord peut-on louer une voiture ou utiliser les transports en commun locaux?
Kersain29
Bonjour,
Louer une voiture vous coûterait fort cher et il faudrait la prendre avec chauffeur car on ne loue à des européens que dans des conditions bien particulière -
Les "transports en commun" ce sont l'avion, les sleeping bus, les open bus, le train car il y a quand même quelque chose comme 1800 kms je crois.
Le plus sûr et le plus confortable, c'est l'avion et dans un moindre degré le train (mais c'est très long) les bus de tous poils vous permettent d'apprécier les paysages, c'est assez bien organisé à bord avec des arrêts en cours de route pour se restaurer, mais j'ai ouï dire que la conduite en est généralement sportive !!il😇 y a des Compagnies qui sont meilleures que d'autres ..
Cordialement - Kimtwo -
Louer une voiture vous coûterait fort cher et il faudrait la prendre avec chauffeur car on ne loue à des européens que dans des conditions bien particulière -
Les "transports en commun" ce sont l'avion, les sleeping bus, les open bus, le train car il y a quand même quelque chose comme 1800 kms je crois.
Le plus sûr et le plus confortable, c'est l'avion et dans un moindre degré le train (mais c'est très long) les bus de tous poils vous permettent d'apprécier les paysages, c'est assez bien organisé à bord avec des arrêts en cours de route pour se restaurer, mais j'ai ouï dire que la conduite en est généralement sportive !!il😇 y a des Compagnies qui sont meilleures que d'autres ..
Cordialement - Kimtwo -
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Avant de choisir pour l’une ou l’autre de chaque formules il y a des questions à vous poser, combien de temps voulez-vous passer à rechercher des moyens de transports, des restaurants ou des hôtels.
Le Vietnam c’est aussi Anglais obligatoire, très peu de gens parlent français.
Hôtels aucun problème il a pratiquement partout du choix mais il faut se rappeler que la négociation est obligatoire au Vietnam, donc du temps à passer.
Pour la nourriture il y a également le choix soit avec les structures hôtelières, soit avec repas économique à la Vietnamienne dans la rue (mais une fois de plus négociable et sous réserve de pratiquer l’anglais).
Personnellement (nous venons de passer 2 semaines au Vietnam) n’ayant pas beaucoup de temps et souhaitant voir un maximum de chose nous avions choisi la solution circuit organisé.
noel86
J'ai visité le Viêtnam en couple et je suis partie avec la compagnie Hortensia établie là-bas. La compagnie planifie tout pour un voyage à 2! Nous avons le meilleur des 2 mondes. Pas de groupe à suivre, tout est planifié selon nos goûts et ils ont de bons rabais sur des chambres dispendieuses. Bon voyage!
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Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
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Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!