Nous sommes au Laos et voudrions rejoindre Chian Mai en Thaïlande et ensuite passer la frontière terrestre de Birmanie. Peut on actuellement aller jusqu'à Mandalay par voie terrestre ? Comment ? Quel visa ? Je n'ai pas trouvé de message récent. Merci d'avance. Nadine
Passage frontière terrestre pour la Birmanie depuis Chiang Mai possible?
by Baroud3x20F
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour
Nous sommes au Laos et voudrions rejoindre Chian Mai en Thaïlande et ensuite passer la frontière terrestre de Birmanie. Peut on actuellement aller jusqu'à Mandalay par voie terrestre ? Comment ? Quel visa ? Je n'ai pas trouvé de message récent. Merci d'avance. Nadine
Nous sommes au Laos et voudrions rejoindre Chian Mai en Thaïlande et ensuite passer la frontière terrestre de Birmanie. Peut on actuellement aller jusqu'à Mandalay par voie terrestre ? Comment ? Quel visa ? Je n'ai pas trouvé de message récent. Merci d'avance. Nadine
Bonjour Nadine,
Tu peux prendre un bus de Chiang Mai vers Mae Sot (compagnie Green bus, trajets quotidiens), passer la frontière de Mae Sot vers Myawaddy puis prendre un transport vers Hpa An (il y aura sans doute des taxis si les transports collectifs font défaut). De Hpa An il y a des liaisons en bus, au moins vers Yangon et Naypyitaw. De là, plein de bus vers Mandalay.
Je n'ai pas passé la frontière plus au nord, vers Tachilek. Lorsque j'étais au Myanmar en décembre dernier, plusieurs personnes m'ont dit qu'il était nécessaire de prendre un vol interne pour atteindre cette frontière car la région à traverser serait interdite aux étrangers. Mais je n'ai pas vérifié l'info...
Un e-visa permet d'entrer et de sortir de Birmanie par la frontière Mae Sot/Myawaddy. Aucune idée pour la frontière de Tachilek mais tu peux trouver l'info sur le site de l'immigration birmane.
Bon voyage !
Tu peux prendre un bus de Chiang Mai vers Mae Sot (compagnie Green bus, trajets quotidiens), passer la frontière de Mae Sot vers Myawaddy puis prendre un transport vers Hpa An (il y aura sans doute des taxis si les transports collectifs font défaut). De Hpa An il y a des liaisons en bus, au moins vers Yangon et Naypyitaw. De là, plein de bus vers Mandalay.
Je n'ai pas passé la frontière plus au nord, vers Tachilek. Lorsque j'étais au Myanmar en décembre dernier, plusieurs personnes m'ont dit qu'il était nécessaire de prendre un vol interne pour atteindre cette frontière car la région à traverser serait interdite aux étrangers. Mais je n'ai pas vérifié l'info...
Un e-visa permet d'entrer et de sortir de Birmanie par la frontière Mae Sot/Myawaddy. Aucune idée pour la frontière de Tachilek mais tu peux trouver l'info sur le site de l'immigration birmane.
Bon voyage !
Merci Marion. J'ai trouvé cet te information déjà mais je voulais une réponse récente de quelqu un qui est passé par le Nord. Je voudrais voir cette région. Merci d avoir pris la peine de me répondre. Amicalement. Nadine
Bonjour
Je suppose que vous parlez de la frontière à Tachileik la plus au Nord. Il faut être en possession du visa Birman. De là vous pouvez vous rendre à Kengtung mais impossible d'aller vers l'intérieur du pays par la route car elle est interdite aux étrangers. C'est l'avion obligatoirement pour rejoindre Mandalay ou l'aéroport de Heho près du lac Inle.
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Merci. Je présume que votre information est récente et de, première main ?
Je prendrai l avion à Chiang Mai alors
Ou vous pouvez aussi prendre l'avion à Tachileik si jamais vous vouliez rendre visite aux minorités autour de Kengtung.
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Ah oui? Vous le conseillez? Cela en vaut la peine? Pas trop touristique ?
Merci beaucoup pour vos réponses
Pour voir les minorités Akha, Lahu Shi, les Femmes aux dents noires... et j'en passe, c'est l'idéal mais il faut un bon petit budget surtout pour le guide, obligatoire dans cette région.
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Là ça devient vraiment intéressant !!!
Je suis désolée de prendre ainsi votre temps. Vous pourriez m en dire plus ? Où trouver ces guides ?
Quel sorte de budget et combien de jours ça prend ?
Merci mille fois !! Nadine
Merci mille fois !! Nadine
Bjr
je vous conseille de chercher des infos tres recentes sur les possibilités de balades dans les montagnes et villages au dessus de Kentung et sur la route vers Mongla et la frontière chinoise
Notez aussi qu'actuellement il peut faire tres froid des qu'on monte en altitude On vient d'essuyer sur le nord Thailande la deuxieme vague de froid de la saison avec des températures en ville à ChiangMai de moins de 12 degres - et donc en dessous des 10 degres des qu'on part dans les montagnes au dessus en altitude -
le plus facile, si vous n'avez pas de contact direct sur place est de contacter les hebergements de Kentung et de leur demander ce qu'ils proposent ACTUELLEMENT commes balades dans les villages a proximité
je vous conseille de chercher des infos tres recentes sur les possibilités de balades dans les montagnes et villages au dessus de Kentung et sur la route vers Mongla et la frontière chinoise
Notez aussi qu'actuellement il peut faire tres froid des qu'on monte en altitude On vient d'essuyer sur le nord Thailande la deuxieme vague de froid de la saison avec des températures en ville à ChiangMai de moins de 12 degres - et donc en dessous des 10 degres des qu'on part dans les montagnes au dessus en altitude -
le plus facile, si vous n'avez pas de contact direct sur place est de contacter les hebergements de Kentung et de leur demander ce qu'ils proposent ACTUELLEMENT commes balades dans les villages a proximité
On eu le siècle des Lumières,
puis un con a dû éteindre
Où trouver ces guides ?
En préalable à ma visite en mars 2016, j'avais identifié sur le web : (nota, j'ai remplacé le symbole @ par (*) pour éviter que les adresses emails soient inondés de spam) - Sai Moon, koootin(*)yahoo.com, originaire de Kengtung, mais habitant Mae Sai, en face de Tachileik côté thaïlandais. - Kengtung Trekking (kyawsein98(*)gmail.com; 0932522856) - Sai Leng (sairoctor.htunleng(*)gmail.com, www.facebook.com/roctor.leng?fref=ts). - Sai Noot (Dom) 09-5250718, 09-261920400, dominic.noot(*)gmail.com, - Sai Sai (loimwe), 9428211328, saisaiktg08(*)gmail.com, - Yot Kham (09-49031934, 09-254171953, yotkham(*)gmail.com, www.facebook.com/yot.kham.5?fref=ts / www.freddietrekkingktg.blogspot.com). - Ah Gar (www.facebook.com/maung.ahsi?fref=ts, ahsi.ktg(*)gmail.com). - Sai Woon Pe Te. 959742 82 10 290. - James (Sai Hla Win) 09250951163, zacissacq(*)gmail.com - Sai Sam Tip, 09-4100-6263, saisamtip3(*)gmail.com.. - Maw Htoo ? / Mawthoo mawhtoo223(*)gmail.com - Sai Tint Zaw Tun, sweeperster(*)gmail.com, 09-5252858
En sus, d'autres guides sont joignables via les hôtels.
Pour ma part, j'ai fait travailler Sai Moon qui s'est montré inventif pour répondre à mes besoins. En particulier, combinaison avec location d'un scooter auprès de la Harry's Trekking House (gérante désagréable, mais seul endroit ouvert à la location de scooter). Un brin mégalo, d'une excessive fierté, mais très attentionné auprès de son client.
Quel sorte de budget
Dans mon cas, j'ai payé 25$ / j, hors coût de transport. Normalement, il faut affréter un véhicule avec chauffeur, mais mon guide a accepté de me convoyer sur un scooter loué (10 000 kyats / j pour le scooter, essence incluse). Hormis pour les villages Loi de Wan Seng & Wan Nyet dans le District de Mongla, pour lesquels l'Administration de Kengtung impose un véhicule 4 roues. Sai Moon m'a trouvé un pick-up à 50 000 kyats, alors que les taxis demandaient 102 000 kyats.
D'après mon guide Sai Moon, le propriétaire du Princess Hotel organise une cartel imposant les prix.
et combien de jours ça prend ?
Cela va dépendre du nombre de villages que vous voulez voir et de leur éloignement. Quand j'y ai été (mars-16), obligation de retourner coucher à Kengtung tous les soirs.
Descriptifs d'offres in www.myanmartravels.net/trekking-highlights.htm.
Fabrice
En préalable à ma visite en mars 2016, j'avais identifié sur le web : (nota, j'ai remplacé le symbole @ par (*) pour éviter que les adresses emails soient inondés de spam) - Sai Moon, koootin(*)yahoo.com, originaire de Kengtung, mais habitant Mae Sai, en face de Tachileik côté thaïlandais. - Kengtung Trekking (kyawsein98(*)gmail.com; 0932522856) - Sai Leng (sairoctor.htunleng(*)gmail.com, www.facebook.com/roctor.leng?fref=ts). - Sai Noot (Dom) 09-5250718, 09-261920400, dominic.noot(*)gmail.com, - Sai Sai (loimwe), 9428211328, saisaiktg08(*)gmail.com, - Yot Kham (09-49031934, 09-254171953, yotkham(*)gmail.com, www.facebook.com/yot.kham.5?fref=ts / www.freddietrekkingktg.blogspot.com). - Ah Gar (www.facebook.com/maung.ahsi?fref=ts, ahsi.ktg(*)gmail.com). - Sai Woon Pe Te. 959742 82 10 290. - James (Sai Hla Win) 09250951163, zacissacq(*)gmail.com - Sai Sam Tip, 09-4100-6263, saisamtip3(*)gmail.com.. - Maw Htoo ? / Mawthoo mawhtoo223(*)gmail.com - Sai Tint Zaw Tun, sweeperster(*)gmail.com, 09-5252858
En sus, d'autres guides sont joignables via les hôtels.
Pour ma part, j'ai fait travailler Sai Moon qui s'est montré inventif pour répondre à mes besoins. En particulier, combinaison avec location d'un scooter auprès de la Harry's Trekking House (gérante désagréable, mais seul endroit ouvert à la location de scooter). Un brin mégalo, d'une excessive fierté, mais très attentionné auprès de son client.
Quel sorte de budget
Dans mon cas, j'ai payé 25$ / j, hors coût de transport. Normalement, il faut affréter un véhicule avec chauffeur, mais mon guide a accepté de me convoyer sur un scooter loué (10 000 kyats / j pour le scooter, essence incluse). Hormis pour les villages Loi de Wan Seng & Wan Nyet dans le District de Mongla, pour lesquels l'Administration de Kengtung impose un véhicule 4 roues. Sai Moon m'a trouvé un pick-up à 50 000 kyats, alors que les taxis demandaient 102 000 kyats.
D'après mon guide Sai Moon, le propriétaire du Princess Hotel organise une cartel imposant les prix.
et combien de jours ça prend ?
Cela va dépendre du nombre de villages que vous voulez voir et de leur éloignement. Quand j'y ai été (mars-16), obligation de retourner coucher à Kengtung tous les soirs.
Descriptifs d'offres in www.myanmartravels.net/trekking-highlights.htm.
Fabrice
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
Ouaw!!!! Un énorme MERCI pour toutes ces informations.
Je vais étudier tout cela en profondeur. ..
Merci merci encore
Amicalement Nadine
bonjour
et pour passer par la frontière près du col des 3 pagodes vous savez si c'est possible ?
et pour passer par la frontière près du col des 3 pagodes vous savez si c'est possible ?
Fais de ta vie un rêve, et d'un rêve, une réalité
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non pas la ( sauf juste a la journée pour les Thais)
le passage frontière dans ce coin ouvert aux etrangers se trouve juste avant a l'Ouest de Kanchanaburi sur la meme lattitude passage de PhuNamRon / Htee Khee voir GPS sur google map GPS 13.894950, 99.082064
sur google map on voit l'autoroute 4 voies qui relie la frontièere a Kanchanaburi -- et de l'autre coté la route qui part vers DAWEI


non pas la ( sauf juste a la journée pour les Thais)
le passage frontière dans ce coin ouvert aux etrangers se trouve juste avant a l'Ouest de Kanchanaburi sur la meme lattitude passage de PhuNamRon / Htee Khee voir GPS sur google map GPS 13.894950, 99.082064
sur google map on voit l'autoroute 4 voies qui relie la frontièere a Kanchanaburi -- et de l'autre coté la route qui part vers DAWEI


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See you, Jean.
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.





