Passeport barbouillé de feutre, valide?
by Yomdra
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Mon fils de deux ans et demi vient de barbouiller le passeport de son frère avec du feutre rouge, là où sont toutes les informations et photos + signature. Comme c'est plastifié, c'est entièrement parti sur la page photo + informations, l'autre page reste elle barbouillée de rouge, sans pour autant masquer quoique ce soit. D'après vous, est-ce que cela reste valide? Ou bien est-ce que ça peut me poser des pbs à la douane?
Bonjour,
Difficile de se faire une idée sans voir l'objet... 🙂 Si vraiment la page plastifiée est en parfait état, j'aurais tendance à penser que ce n'est pas grave, mais c'est certain que c'est une source de problèmes possibles ; c'est pour voyager où ?
Michel
Difficile de se faire une idée sans voir l'objet... 🙂 Si vraiment la page plastifiée est en parfait état, j'aurais tendance à penser que ce n'est pas grave, mais c'est certain que c'est une source de problèmes possibles ; c'est pour voyager où ?
Michel
bonjour,
On est pas du tout à l'abri d'un zèle excessif !! Un PAF mal luné, peut considérer , qu'en vertu du §§ 2 des "recommantadions importantes" cela rentre dans le cadre des opérations interdites.
Je demanderais son remplacement de toute urgence , surtout s'il est destiné à un voyage lointain ou on ne peut pas préjuger du comportement des autorités.... pour les zétazunis , je ne tenterais même pas.
On est pas du tout à l'abri d'un zèle excessif !! Un PAF mal luné, peut considérer , qu'en vertu du §§ 2 des "recommantadions importantes" cela rentre dans le cadre des opérations interdites.
Je demanderais son remplacement de toute urgence , surtout s'il est destiné à un voyage lointain ou on ne peut pas préjuger du comportement des autorités.... pour les zétazunis , je ne tenterais même pas.
La Mairie de votre domicile, ou mieux la Préfecture, vous donnera un avis définitif.
"Voyager, c'est bien utile, ça fait travailler l'imagination.
Tout le reste n'est que déceptions et fatigues." Céline
mes photos de voyage : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fabrice-Bloch-photographe/232403640142664
Bonjour,
La Mairie de votre domicile, ou mieux la Préfecture, vous donnera un avis définitif.
Ce n'est vraiment pas là que j'irais chercher des avis à ce sujet... 🤪 La PAF à l'aéroport peut avoir une idée assez solide de la chose, mais ce ne sera jamais une garantie.
Michel
La Mairie de votre domicile, ou mieux la Préfecture, vous donnera un avis définitif.
Ce n'est vraiment pas là que j'irais chercher des avis à ce sujet... 🤪 La PAF à l'aéroport peut avoir une idée assez solide de la chose, mais ce ne sera jamais une garantie.
Michel
* ** La Mairie de votre domicile, ou mieux la Préfecture, vous donnera un avis définitif. ****
je suis loin d'etre convaincu, un employé de mairie ou un planton de préfecture n'est en aucun cas garantie de vérité !! En tout cas , j'ai eu trop de surprises avec les fausses informations recueillies dans ces administrations (encore un gros pataques la semaine dernière, mais ceci ne nous regarde pas 😉😉🙁) pour leur accordre le moindre crédit ! Dans ce cas seul le comportement des autorités, francaises, des aéroports (et même malheureusement , un simple vigile borné!!), mais surtout étrangères , dont on ne peut anticiper les réactions, peut gacher ou non un voyage.
je suis loin d'etre convaincu, un employé de mairie ou un planton de préfecture n'est en aucun cas garantie de vérité !! En tout cas , j'ai eu trop de surprises avec les fausses informations recueillies dans ces administrations (encore un gros pataques la semaine dernière, mais ceci ne nous regarde pas 😉😉🙁) pour leur accordre le moindre crédit ! Dans ce cas seul le comportement des autorités, francaises, des aéroports (et même malheureusement , un simple vigile borné!!), mais surtout étrangères , dont on ne peut anticiper les réactions, peut gacher ou non un voyage.
C'est le terme "définitif" qui vous a fait réagir 🙂
Je le retire donc
Comme partout, il y a le bon grain et l'ivraie, mais les agents municipaux ont reçu généralement une formation sur les passeports récemment (suite à la mise en place du passeport biométrique) et, par exemple, les employés de l'Etat-Civil de ma commune étaient parfaitement au clair sur les règles concernant les passeports, en particulier le mode de renouvellement. Quand à la Préfecture, représentante locale du Ministère de l'Intérieur, ils "doivent" être au courant des causes d'annulation suite à altération.
Ceci dit, étant personnellement d'accord avec vous, je le ferai refaire...
Comme partout, il y a le bon grain et l'ivraie, mais les agents municipaux ont reçu généralement une formation sur les passeports récemment (suite à la mise en place du passeport biométrique) et, par exemple, les employés de l'Etat-Civil de ma commune étaient parfaitement au clair sur les règles concernant les passeports, en particulier le mode de renouvellement. Quand à la Préfecture, représentante locale du Ministère de l'Intérieur, ils "doivent" être au courant des causes d'annulation suite à altération.
Ceci dit, étant personnellement d'accord avec vous, je le ferai refaire...
"Voyager, c'est bien utile, ça fait travailler l'imagination.
Tout le reste n'est que déceptions et fatigues." Céline
mes photos de voyage : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fabrice-Bloch-photographe/232403640142664
Ceci dit, étant personnellement d'accord avec vous, je le ferai refaire...
En plus, tel qu'il est décrit, c'est un Delphine, donc pas très récent, et pour mineur, donc valable 5 ans ; il doit être assez proche de l'échéance, ce passeport.
Michel
En plus, tel qu'il est décrit, c'est un Delphine, donc pas très récent, et pour mineur, donc valable 5 ans ; il doit être assez proche de l'échéance, ce passeport.
Michel
Dans ce cas seul le comportement des autorités, francaises, des aéroports (et même malheureusement , un simple vigile borné!!), mais surtout étrangères , dont on ne peut anticiper les réactions, peut gacher ou non un voyage.
On a quand même tendance à ne plus avoir confiance en sa bonne foi ni en ses droits - c'est assez récent, ça, en France, une sorte d'insécurité. Il ne faut pas non plus vouloir que tout soit toujours plus blanc que blanc, et passer son temps à fantasmer sur l'anticipation des enquiquinements possibles. Là, il faut voir la chose pour avoir un avis, si c'est juste un trait, ce n'est pas plus grave que la bavure de n'importe quel tampon d'immigration, ou que n'importe quelle agrafe, que certains pays mettent, et qui aussi, sur la stricte règle, rendent nul le passeport.
Michel
On a quand même tendance à ne plus avoir confiance en sa bonne foi ni en ses droits - c'est assez récent, ça, en France, une sorte d'insécurité. Il ne faut pas non plus vouloir que tout soit toujours plus blanc que blanc, et passer son temps à fantasmer sur l'anticipation des enquiquinements possibles. Là, il faut voir la chose pour avoir un avis, si c'est juste un trait, ce n'est pas plus grave que la bavure de n'importe quel tampon d'immigration, ou que n'importe quelle agrafe, que certains pays mettent, et qui aussi, sur la stricte règle, rendent nul le passeport.
Michel
* *** On a quand même tendance à ne plus avoir confiance en sa bonne foi ni en ses droits - c'est assez récent, ça, en France, une sorte d'insécurité. ***
c'est loin d'etre franco francais et ça a toujours existé !
La délégation de l'autorité a toujours été le fait d'interprétations allant du laxisme pur et dur , à l'excès d'autorité, avec en plus tous les degrés de corruption.
""donner un sifflet et un carnet à souche à un bon père de famille, peut le transformer en dictateur !"" (auteur inconnu.. de moi, si quelqu'un sait ?? nouveau jeu VF!)
""donner un sifflet et un carnet à souche à un bon père de famille, peut le transformer en dictateur !"" (auteur inconnu.. de moi, si quelqu'un sait ?? nouveau jeu VF!)
c'est loin d'etre franco francais et ça a toujours existé !
Cela ne me pesait pas il y a quelques années, maintenant cela me pèse. Il ne me semble pas que les réglementations s'exercent avec moins de discernement et d'intelligence, mais que le torrent d'informations que nous avons est anxiogène de ce point de vue ; une tendance à changer les règles par caprice aussi, engendre une forme d'insécurité et un manque de confiance en sa bonne foi. Enfin je trouve.
Tiens, je vais aller à Hong Kong dans quelques semaines, je n'aurais qu'un bagage cabine, et bien j'en suis à me demander si je ne vais pas trimballer un autre sac, vide car je n'ai rien à y mettre, juste pour que ce manque de bagage n'interroge pas. C'est juste un exemple !
Michel
Cela ne me pesait pas il y a quelques années, maintenant cela me pèse. Il ne me semble pas que les réglementations s'exercent avec moins de discernement et d'intelligence, mais que le torrent d'informations que nous avons est anxiogène de ce point de vue ; une tendance à changer les règles par caprice aussi, engendre une forme d'insécurité et un manque de confiance en sa bonne foi. Enfin je trouve.
Tiens, je vais aller à Hong Kong dans quelques semaines, je n'aurais qu'un bagage cabine, et bien j'en suis à me demander si je ne vais pas trimballer un autre sac, vide car je n'ai rien à y mettre, juste pour que ce manque de bagage n'interroge pas. C'est juste un exemple !
Michel
* ** une tendance à changer les règles par caprice aussi, engendre une forme d'insécurité et un manque de confiance en sa bonne foi ***
Il suffit pour cela d'aller dans une poste , une mairie, ou une autre administration pour voir le nombre d'affichettes de "post it", avec des règlements intérieurs aux règlements , apposé ou imposé par des petits cheffaillons qui font leur loi ! Il suffit de voir que chaque préfesture a des délais différents , des circuits d'information différents pour des formalités nationales, l'exemple flagrant est la délivrance de passeports d'urgence, certaines préfectures délivrent en 2 h sur la présentation d'un billet d'avion, d'aures refusent systématiquement , même pour un décés ouu un cas grave, d'autres que pour motif professionnel pouvant mettre en péril l'entreprise.. etc .. etc .. et vive les petits chefs de service.
Je viens de vivre un cas qui serait drole s'il n'était pas révélateur du mépris de l'usager, pour un renouvellement de permis E ! une engueulade entre la préposée au guichet à la mairie , sa chef de service , le médecin de la préfecture et le médecin de ville qui a fait mon controle , chacun voulait édicter sa procédure, qui par ailleurs faisait l'objet d'un document écrit et clair.
Il suffit pour cela d'aller dans une poste , une mairie, ou une autre administration pour voir le nombre d'affichettes de "post it", avec des règlements intérieurs aux règlements , apposé ou imposé par des petits cheffaillons qui font leur loi ! Il suffit de voir que chaque préfesture a des délais différents , des circuits d'information différents pour des formalités nationales, l'exemple flagrant est la délivrance de passeports d'urgence, certaines préfectures délivrent en 2 h sur la présentation d'un billet d'avion, d'aures refusent systématiquement , même pour un décés ouu un cas grave, d'autres que pour motif professionnel pouvant mettre en péril l'entreprise.. etc .. etc .. et vive les petits chefs de service.
Je viens de vivre un cas qui serait drole s'il n'était pas révélateur du mépris de l'usager, pour un renouvellement de permis E ! une engueulade entre la préposée au guichet à la mairie , sa chef de service , le médecin de la préfecture et le médecin de ville qui a fait mon controle , chacun voulait édicter sa procédure, qui par ailleurs faisait l'objet d'un document écrit et clair.
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Thanks for your advice—this is a bit urgent 😕😕😕😕
Hello,
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht). This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea? Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast! Cheers, Bruno.
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht). This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea? Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast! Cheers, Bruno.
Hi there,
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
Hi everyone,
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊






