Passeport endommagé en Birmanie
by Danielvl
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
l'un d'entre vous est il déjà entré en birmanie avec un passeport endommagé ( photo décollée à 70% )
je pars dans 2 mois et j'ai un peu la flegme de le faire refaire.
l'an dernier je suis passé sans encombre à Bangkok et au laos ( pont de l'amitié ) donc je serai tenté de faire pareil à Rangoon, mais ...qu'en pensez vous ?
Caminante no hay camino, se hace camino al andar (A.Machado)
Oui moi aussi j'ai eu le tour de cette photo décoller en bas à gauche et je ne suis pas le premier, je me trouver au Cambodge ( pareil décollée à 70% ) petit problème à la sortie mais tant bien que mal cela c'est bien passer, arriver à Bangkok je me suis pas gêné j'ai acheter un tube de super glue et une goutte la photo ne bouge plus, je sais c'est pas légal mais au Cambodge c'était limite pour prendre mon vol pour Bangkok .
Dès mon arrivée en Thaïlande un coup de colle pour le retour une semaine après je parle de cela en novembre 2003 et j'ai toujours le même passeport et croit moi il y en a plus qu'on le croît c'est pas normal mais bon faut faire avec .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Moi c'est à l'entrée au Japon qu'on m'a fait une remarque il n'y a pas longtemps. Et la photo était décollée à beaucoup moins de 70%. Mais je suis passé quand même et n'ai pas eu d'autres remarques par la suite.
Bonjour,
A ta place, je le ferai refaire. Pour d'autres pays que la Birmanie, je te dirais de tenter le coup mais là-bas, aux passages de frontières ou en arrivant à l'aéroport, ça rigole pas trop. De plus, tu arriveras sans doute par avion. C'est plus gênant d'être refoulé que quand tu passes par un point d'entrée terrestre. Tu seras obligé de reprendre l'avion à tes frais après une journée en garde à vue. Gain potentiel: quelques dizaines d'euros. Perte potentielle: quelques centaines d'euros et peut-être une interdiction de rentrer à nouveau dans le pays plus une découverte du charmant univers policier birman. Moi, mon choix serait vite fait. Ceci dit, tu peux aussi passer devant un policier qui ne le remarquera même pas.
A ta place, je le ferai refaire. Pour d'autres pays que la Birmanie, je te dirais de tenter le coup mais là-bas, aux passages de frontières ou en arrivant à l'aéroport, ça rigole pas trop. De plus, tu arriveras sans doute par avion. C'est plus gênant d'être refoulé que quand tu passes par un point d'entrée terrestre. Tu seras obligé de reprendre l'avion à tes frais après une journée en garde à vue. Gain potentiel: quelques dizaines d'euros. Perte potentielle: quelques centaines d'euros et peut-être une interdiction de rentrer à nouveau dans le pays plus une découverte du charmant univers policier birman. Moi, mon choix serait vite fait. Ceci dit, tu peux aussi passer devant un policier qui ne le remarquera même pas.
Voyagez, voyagez, il en restera toujours quelque chose!
à la lecture des premières réponses, tout allait bien et j'étais presque décidé à ne rien faire.
mais finalement je vais peut être jouer la prudence 🤪
Merci à tous pour vos avis, c'est le type de réponses que l'on ne trouvera jamais dans aucun guide ( cf. discussion en cours sur Le guide du Routard ) et qui rend ce forum super intéressant.
Merci à tous pour vos avis, c'est le type de réponses que l'on ne trouvera jamais dans aucun guide ( cf. discussion en cours sur Le guide du Routard ) et qui rend ce forum super intéressant.
Caminante no hay camino, se hace camino al andar (A.Machado)
😎Je te conseille FORTEMENT de refaire ton passeport.
La Birmanie est une dictature et les militaires ou autre n'ont aucun humour.
Et si tu comptes une aide de l'ambassade de France, saches que Total a passé un contrat de concession avec ce pays.
Au vu des benef de cette société, je pense pas que tes pbs a la frontiere risquent de les interesser au point de mettre en cause leurs affaires.
A bon entendeur salut.
Et bon voyage dans un pays vraiment a part.
Salut
Es-tu déjà venu dans ce pays au moins?
Es-tu déjà venu dans ce pays au moins?
Salut
mon interrogation etait pour giriv, pas pour toi.
Vu son post, j'ai l'impression que les flics et les douaniers sont plein d'humour chez lui.
On m'a à nouveau fait la remarque à Oman il n'y a pas longtemps. En revanche on ne me l'a pas faite aux Emirats, en Chine, ni lors de ma deuxième entrée à Oman.
Il y a donc un risque très sérieux de se voir refouler, d'autant plus que 70% c'est quand même énorme. Pour ceux qui prennent ça à la légère, je citerais l'exemple d'un important homme d'affaires français (le genre gros bonnet) qui s'est fait coincer 24 heures en Australie pour le même problème, et qui n'a été tiré d'embarras que grâce à l'intervention personnelle de l'Ambassadeur. Inutile de vous dire que le citoyen français lambda n'aura pas droit au même traitement.
Je viens de faire une demande de renouvellement de passeport au Consulat, qui me confirme que c'est obligatoire, il n'y a pas d'autre alternative.
Il y a donc un risque très sérieux de se voir refouler, d'autant plus que 70% c'est quand même énorme. Pour ceux qui prennent ça à la légère, je citerais l'exemple d'un important homme d'affaires français (le genre gros bonnet) qui s'est fait coincer 24 heures en Australie pour le même problème, et qui n'a été tiré d'embarras que grâce à l'intervention personnelle de l'Ambassadeur. Inutile de vous dire que le citoyen français lambda n'aura pas droit au même traitement.
Je viens de faire une demande de renouvellement de passeport au Consulat, qui me confirme que c'est obligatoire, il n'y a pas d'autre alternative.
merci de vos réponses
grace à vous je vais avoir un beau passeport tout neuf😏
Caminante no hay camino, se hace camino al andar (A.Machado)
Salut,
Content pour toi, mais est ce que tu auras le nouveau biométrique ou c'est trop encore tôt ?? et en combien de temps as tu le nouveau passeport .
Content pour toi, mais est ce que tu auras le nouveau biométrique ou c'est trop encore tôt ?? et en combien de temps as tu le nouveau passeport .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Salut,
Content pour toi, mais tu auras le nouveau biométrique
Mais qu est ce que c est que cette bete ??? Va vraimment falloir que j envisage de rentrer un jour y a des tas de truc qui change la bas sur le vieux continant Sinon c est effectivement une sage decision que d avoir fais changer ce passeport
Content pour toi, mais tu auras le nouveau biométrique
Mais qu est ce que c est que cette bete ??? Va vraimment falloir que j envisage de rentrer un jour y a des tas de truc qui change la bas sur le vieux continant Sinon c est effectivement une sage decision que d avoir fais changer ce passeport
La vie c est cmme une patisserie on peux la regader sans cesse mais pour connaitre ces saveurs il la faut croquer... les gens sont seuls parce qu'ils construisent des murs au lieu de construire des ponts
Mais qu est ce que c est que cette bete ??? Va vraimment falloir que j envisage de rentrer un jour y a des tas de truc qui change la bas sur le vieux continant
Sinon c est effectivement une sage decision que d avoir fais changer ce passeport
Oui ça change pour les passeports surtout pour ceux qui partent aux USA il faut le passeport biométrique, mais comme il y a eu un contre temps ici en France pour ce nouveau passeport disons plutôt qu'il y a eu une mauvaise coordination entre l'imprimerie administrative et le privé de ce fait on a pris du retard considérable comme d'habitude, c'est pour ça que je posais la question pour savoir si son nouveau passeport sera biométrique pour ce mois d'avril car d'après la télé ce n'était pas prévue avant début mai vas savoir .
Oui ça change pour les passeports surtout pour ceux qui partent aux USA il faut le passeport biométrique, mais comme il y a eu un contre temps ici en France pour ce nouveau passeport disons plutôt qu'il y a eu une mauvaise coordination entre l'imprimerie administrative et le privé de ce fait on a pris du retard considérable comme d'habitude, c'est pour ça que je posais la question pour savoir si son nouveau passeport sera biométrique pour ce mois d'avril car d'après la télé ce n'était pas prévue avant début mai vas savoir .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
J'ai déposé ma demande au consulat de Shanghai lundi dernier, et vendredi, j'ai reçu un mail m'informant que mon passeport était prêt. Un record, surtout quand on sait que les passeports viennent de Hong Kong! Puisqu'il ne faut pas se contenter de dénoncer ce qui ne marche pas et aussi souligner ce qui est remarquable, bravo donc à notre Administration pour un délai aussi rapide!
En revanche, je n'aurai pas de passeport biométrique. Ils ne sont pas prévus en Asie avant le mois de juin. Dommage, mais je ne peux pas vraiment attendre.
Pour la bonne année de retard dans l'arrivée des nouveaux passeports, ce n'est pas vraiment un problème de coordination privé / public. C'est tout simplement une imbécilité des pouvoirs publics qui n'ont pas respecté le droit des marchés publics et ont apparemment "oublié" de faire un appel d'offres. Ce n'est évidemment pas passé inaperçu et la procédure qui a suivi est à l'origine de ce retard.
En revanche, je n'aurai pas de passeport biométrique. Ils ne sont pas prévus en Asie avant le mois de juin. Dommage, mais je ne peux pas vraiment attendre.
Pour la bonne année de retard dans l'arrivée des nouveaux passeports, ce n'est pas vraiment un problème de coordination privé / public. C'est tout simplement une imbécilité des pouvoirs publics qui n'ont pas respecté le droit des marchés publics et ont apparemment "oublié" de faire un appel d'offres. Ce n'est évidemment pas passé inaperçu et la procédure qui a suivi est à l'origine de ce retard.
non, toujours pas de biométrique, mais peut etre aurait il fallu en faire la demande.
comme je n'en avais pas besoin, je ne me suis pas posé la question
j'ai mis 3 semaines à le recevoir ( ca semble etre le délai normal en dehors des péroiodes de pointe )
j'ai mis 3 semaines à le recevoir ( ca semble etre le délai normal en dehors des péroiodes de pointe )
Caminante no hay camino, se hace camino al andar (A.Machado)
Bonjour,
C'est bien que tu témoignes aussi pour cette photo décollée c'est incroyable le nombre de voyageurs a qui c'est arriver . Perso quand j'ai eu ce problème au Cambodge arriver à bangkok j'y ai mis deux gouttes de super glue et la photo ne bouge plus, je sais que c'est pas légal mais au moins on est mieux servi que par soi même 😏
C'est bien que tu témoignes aussi pour cette photo décollée c'est incroyable le nombre de voyageurs a qui c'est arriver . Perso quand j'ai eu ce problème au Cambodge arriver à bangkok j'y ai mis deux gouttes de super glue et la photo ne bouge plus, je sais que c'est pas légal mais au moins on est mieux servi que par soi même 😏
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Hello
Pour le biométrique, les hautes seines sont pilote et on peut les demander depuis Lundi ...;donc je dépose ma demande la semaine prochaine (le temps de récup toute les pièces ...).
Par contre mauvaise nouvelle, plus de procédure d'urgence pour avoir un passeport (sauf dans certain cas pour des raisons humanitaire) et ce dernier ne sera pas biométrique et ne sera que pour 1 ans ..., mais "que" 30€ ...
ils ne demande ni emprunte ni rien d'autre que pour les passeports classic, c'est quoi alors ce "biométrique" (oui je sait oblidatoir pour les USA ...)
Philo
Pour le biométrique, les hautes seines sont pilote et on peut les demander depuis Lundi ...;donc je dépose ma demande la semaine prochaine (le temps de récup toute les pièces ...).
Par contre mauvaise nouvelle, plus de procédure d'urgence pour avoir un passeport (sauf dans certain cas pour des raisons humanitaire) et ce dernier ne sera pas biométrique et ne sera que pour 1 ans ..., mais "que" 30€ ...
ils ne demande ni emprunte ni rien d'autre que pour les passeports classic, c'est quoi alors ce "biométrique" (oui je sait oblidatoir pour les USA ...)
Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
dyslexique
Hello Philobate,
Ok merci de ces précisions, mais à mon avis d'ici quelques années les passeports biométriques seront obligatoire pour tout les pays .
Ok merci de ces précisions, mais à mon avis d'ici quelques années les passeports biométriques seront obligatoire pour tout les pays .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Je suis daccord, mais c'est quoi "Biometrique", pour moi ca veut dire qu'il y'as une puce avec mon code adn ou mes emprunte, non ?
Philo
Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
dyslexique
Je suis daccord, mais c'est quoi "Biometrique", pour moi ca veut dire qu'il y'as une puce avec mon code adn ou mes emprunte, non ?
Philo
Normalement oui le mot biométrique le précise bien mais comme tu dis si ils ne demandent pas d'empreintes ce n'est plus le cas à mon avis, si mes souvenirs sont bons aux USA ils le font systématiquement même l'empreinte d'iris des yeux . Alors si en France ils prennent pas au minimum les empreintes ce n'est plus un passeport biométrique, ça devient compliqué leur truc alors 😉
Philo
Normalement oui le mot biométrique le précise bien mais comme tu dis si ils ne demandent pas d'empreintes ce n'est plus le cas à mon avis, si mes souvenirs sont bons aux USA ils le font systématiquement même l'empreinte d'iris des yeux . Alors si en France ils prennent pas au minimum les empreintes ce n'est plus un passeport biométrique, ça devient compliqué leur truc alors 😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
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My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.






