Bonjour,
Nous somme un couple d'Alger, nous voulons organiser un petit circuit du 23 decembre 2012 au 2 Janvier 2013
nous pensons faire alger oran tlemcen taghit timimoun el golea ghardaia alger
sachant qu'on a deja fait ghardaia et ses alentours .on hesite encore à partir d'alger directement pour taghit, eviter oran et tlemcen pour avoir plus de temps entre taghit et timimoun .
c'est possible de faire la boucle en transport en commun ? et de se debrouiller sur place ?
sinon connaissez vous des agences qui organsient ce genre de circuit, mais pas les agences comme L' ONAT ou c'est le tourisme de masse, mauvaise gestion de temps .... on cherche qlq chose de plus authentique, avec hébergement dans palmerais, plats traditionnels...
j'ai deja contacté qlq agence( nouvelles terre, essaaaf-d'or, gourarat, tiferine, dromaid-air, madjid_tim@hotmail.com ) mais je ne saurais faire le tri, je préfère me fier aux connaisseurs
L'utilisation des transports en commun est tout à fait possible mais le problème c'est la durée de votre circuit ! On passe beaucoup de temps dans les bus (le plus confortable et moins risqué) et sauf si vous voyagerez de nuit (trop de fatigue pour un tel circuit), vous perdrez beaucoup de temps !
A Timimoun, vous aurez besoin d'une voiture pour visiter les ksours, Timimoun ville est vite visitée... tout comme à Taghit... A El Golea, je connais un guide officiel qui pourrait vous faire une visite sur 2 jours.
Pour les hébergements, à Taghit et Timimoun, il y a des maisons d'hôtes dont je pourrai communiquer les coordonnées, à El Golea le choix entre un petit hôtel ou l'hébergement chez l'habitant...
Merci pour votre répose rapide,
disant que je craint la fatigue de conduite, et les agence rare celles qui proposent notre circuit
on, a elaboré un petit circuit :
23 :depart alger taghit ,
24,25,26 :sur taghit , on cherchera une hebergement qui propose un petit circuit sur place, depart le 27 matin
27,28,29 : meme topo sur tim, depart le 30 au matin pour el Golea
30 : el , golea , depart le 31 matin pour ghardaia
1 janvier : retour sur alger
Qu'enpensez vous de mon circuit? vous auriez une idée des temps et la disponibilité des transports ?
C'est bien plus sympa et sans contraintes de prendre sa propre voiture... pouvoir s'arrêter où on veut, et quand on veut... ne pas être tributaire des horaires, etc...
Les trajets ne sont pas si long que cela sauf celui entre Alger & Taghit... mais c'est possible !
Sur Taghit, il faut prévoir 2 nuits - 2 à 3 nuits à Timi - 2 nuits à El Golea (il faut prévoir 2 jours pour visiter El Golea & les environs) - 1 nuit si besoin sur Ghardaia sinon direct vers Laghouat (par ex.) pour une nuit là-bas avant de finir sur Alger...
Je reviens vers ce message aprés m'etre rendue compte que Tamenrasset est une destination trés chere ( notamment a cause du vol )
j'ai eu une proposition pour une boucle d'une semaine ds l'erg occidental ( taghit, beni abbas, timimoun), le tout à 58000 TTC + 15000 vol AR ( agence nouvelles terres voyages)
je ovudrais savoir si qlq un connait cette agence , ainsi qu une idée des tarifs pratiqués dans la region
Bonjour,
je parle de ma propre expérience dans les voyages. Je voyage accompagné toujours par mon épouse et mes deux filles. Nous avons fait toute l'Algérie avec tout le Sahara compris (sur plusieurs années). IL n'y a pas mieux que de voyager seul. Nous nous arrêtons quand nous voulons , mangeons ce que nous choisissons et visitons ce que, peut-être bcp d'agences touristiques ne connaissent pas. On dit chez nous :"dibel sanou ma yatlef" traduit par celui qui a une langue ne se pert pas. Il faut éviter Timimoun-El Goléa (375 km) c'est l'isolement totale, sinon il faut être à plusieurs voitures.
Je reste à votre disposition pour plus d'infos.
Ne râter pas de visiter notre Sahara, vous n'allez plus pouvoir vous en séparer. Il va falloir le faire chaque année
Mais vraiment tu racontes n'importe quoi en disant
"Il faut éviter Timimoun-El Goléa (375 km) c'est l'isolement totale, sinon il faut être à plusieurs voitures. " !
De tels propos me hérissent et m'énervent énormément ! Quand on sait que ce sont deux lieux très touristiques où il y a pleines de choses à faire et à voir !
Le route entre Timimoun & El Golea est très agréable à faire, certes on traverse le "reg" qui s'étend à perte de vue (le plateau Tadmaït - absolument nu et presque plat) mais cela vaut vraiment la peine... des rencontres avec chameaux quasiment certaines, puis il y a un trafic régulier de bus, camions et voitures !
C'est "si isolé" que je fais ce trajet très souvent seule avec ma voiture, et sans être escortée ni accompagnée par "plusieurs voitures"
J'y vis une grande partie de l'année (El Golea) et je ne vois vraiment pas de quoi tu parles ! Plus de 50.000 habitants, des sites touristiques incontournables : le Vieux Ksar, l'église Saint Joseph et le tombeau du Père de Foucauld, le lac salé avec ses oiseaux migrateurs, le musée archéologique, la palmeraie immense, des exploitations agricoles, le "champ des roses de sable" en 4x4 avec repas de grillades et thé (à 60 km au nord), des ballades chamelières d'une journée avec pick-nick dans les dunes et le thé, etc... etc...
Timimoun et les ksours ont plus que le mérite d'être visités sans oublier les villages de Tinerkouk... !
Sinon, je suis d'accord avec toi, le Sahara est un "lieu" magique et une fois "piqué" on ne peut plus s'en passer !
Je remarque que ton discours a changé et tu parles en mieux de l’Algérie. Tant mieux !
Je n’ai jamais dis que ce n’est pas beau. Le circuit Timimoune-El Goléa C’est sublime !! J’ai dis qu’il faut de la compagnie, c’est une route isolée où il n’y a pas un flux et d’échanges économiques entre Timimoune et El Goléa (El Méniaa), donc sont rares les voitures que nous croisons. Le mouvement et les échanges sont plutôt du côté de Timimoune-Béchar où la circulation est plus fluide.
Tout dépend à quelle heure tu passes sur cette route, certes la nuit il n'y a pas un chat mais des chameaux à coup sûr ! Je ne sais pas dans quelle année tu es venu, mais bien qu'il n'y a pas d'embouteillages (....) il y a un flux assez régulier ! En moyenne je fais cette route en A/R au moins une fois par mois ou 6 semaines, et c'est un vrai régal ! Un peu monotone certes au niveau du Plateau, mais l'étendu me fait du bien... Je le fais seule sans compagnie, et en cas de panne, je sais qu'il y aura toujours quelqu'un pour dépanner ou aider !
Par contre, je ne me déplace jamais sans 10 L d'eau dans ma voiture, malgré que je ne fais qu'El Golea/Adrar... mais il faut être prudent !
Mon discours n'a nullement changé, puisqu'on parle d'un autre sujet ! Ce que je vis et ce que je vois au quotidien, ne me feront jamais changé de discours !
Est ce que tu sais si il est possible de rouler en 4*4 dans la sebkha de Timimoun en cette periode hivernale sans risque d'enlisement ?
J'ai aussi reperé une piste qui permet de rejoindre el golea depuis Hassi rmal et ghardaia au plus pres de l'erg occidental, saurais tu si cette piste est empruntable ? 🙂
C'est la piste du pipeline non ?? Tout à fait pratiquable mais par contre, est-ce qu'on va te laisser la pratiquer ! C'est une autre question ! Les contrôles sont très sévères, sans cadeaux !
La Sebka de Timimoun, je ne la connais pas plus que cela, je n'utilise que rarement un 4x4 ! Il y a une piste qui mène vers le village en face de l'autre côté mais je n'en sais pas plus !
C'est la piste du pipeline non ?? Tout à fait pratiquable mais par contre, est-ce qu'on va te laisser la pratiquer ! C'est une autre question ! Les contrôles sont très sévères, sans cadeaux !
Surement la piste du pipeline car elle commence à Hassi Rmel.
Je ne sais pas si ce genre de pistes est autorisé au public, si tu as une reponse ça m'aiderais, sinon je verrais sur place, ça passera ou cassera.🙂
La Sebka de Timimoun, je ne la connais pas plus que cela, je n'utilise que rarement un 4x4 ! Il y a une piste qui mène vers le village en face de l'autre côté mais je n'en sais pas plus !
Ok, merci. Et les oasis autour de Timimoun dans l'erg, quelles sont les plus belles a voir ?
PS :Aux dernieres nouvelles meme l'erg occidental ( qui est à plus de 1000 km des frontieres maliennes) est maintenant interdit d'accès par les militaires..... ils vont bien finir par tout interdire.
Votre choix est bon, arrét a Taghit a voir absolument, je vous addresserai par mail ls coordonnées d'un guide local
A timimoun je vais chez Abderamamane, c'est trés pitoresque et il y a un trés bon accueil (mais alcool interdit) http://amistimimoun.free.fr/2Rens/heberg.htm ou au camping rose des sables, mais l'an dernier tout etait complet 15 jours avant
ou au nouvel hotel de luxe
voyez : http://amistimimoun.free.fr/2Rens/heberg.htm
les transport en commun sont fréquents et de bonne qualité
I’m heading back to Egypt for the first time in 30 years this July. Last time, I was 20, and we spent two weeks traveling on a shoestring as backpackers.
I’m wondering about a "cruise" on a felucca from Aswan—mainly to avoid being stuck in an air-conditioned tourist bubble (we’re already spending our first week in that setting with our diving club). We’d like to explore the most interesting stretch of the Nile between Aswan and Luxor. Do you have any thoughts on this option, tips, or maybe some contacts?
Hello, my husband and I will be in Egypt this coming November. Cairo seems more challenging to explore without a guide, and we’ll be there for 3 full days. Would anyone have the name of a guide?
Thanks!
Hi, we're looking for a guide to show us around Essaouira.
We're 11 adults and don't want to go through an agency. If you have a contact to help us discover this city, that would be great!
Thanks
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
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I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
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I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.