La plage de Legzira est d'une saleté épouvantable. Quel dommage! Un endroit si beau... Ca gâche la ballade 😠 Les hôtelliers du coin ne pourraient-ils pas nettoyer leur fond de commerce? Aprés tout si les clients viennent chez eux c'est bien pour la beauté de l'endroit... Ils pourraient par exemple creuser des fossés, y enterrer les ordures, les brûler et les recouvrir de pierres... Et puis ça construit à mort sur la colline, et c'est moche... Espérons qu'ils nettoieront sans pour autant aseptiser cette belle plage.
La plage de Legzira, coup de gueule! (Maroc)
by Kate
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous,
La plage de Legzira est d'une saleté épouvantable. Quel dommage! Un endroit si beau... Ca gâche la ballade 😠 Les hôtelliers du coin ne pourraient-ils pas nettoyer leur fond de commerce? Aprés tout si les clients viennent chez eux c'est bien pour la beauté de l'endroit... Ils pourraient par exemple creuser des fossés, y enterrer les ordures, les brûler et les recouvrir de pierres... Et puis ça construit à mort sur la colline, et c'est moche... Espérons qu'ils nettoieront sans pour autant aseptiser cette belle plage.
La plage de Legzira est d'une saleté épouvantable. Quel dommage! Un endroit si beau... Ca gâche la ballade 😠 Les hôtelliers du coin ne pourraient-ils pas nettoyer leur fond de commerce? Aprés tout si les clients viennent chez eux c'est bien pour la beauté de l'endroit... Ils pourraient par exemple creuser des fossés, y enterrer les ordures, les brûler et les recouvrir de pierres... Et puis ça construit à mort sur la colline, et c'est moche... Espérons qu'ils nettoieront sans pour autant aseptiser cette belle plage.
Mes photos sur Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/153304262@N05/albums
"Le Temps nous égare. Le Temps nous étreint. Le Temps nous est gare. Le Temps nous est train".
Bonjour,
Malheureusement 95 % des plages marocaines , servent de décharge !! Les oueds aussi .... J'ai un album photo complet, c'est pour les belles couleurs !!!😉😉
Quand j'ai posé la question à un boutiquier de Sidi Ifni, il m'a dit que c'était des ordures espagnoles que les courants amenaient...... on m'avait déja fait la même réponse à Biarritz ! spécialité ibérique ????🙁
Malheureusement 95 % des plages marocaines , servent de décharge !! Les oueds aussi .... J'ai un album photo complet, c'est pour les belles couleurs !!!😉😉
Quand j'ai posé la question à un boutiquier de Sidi Ifni, il m'a dit que c'était des ordures espagnoles que les courants amenaient...... on m'avait déja fait la même réponse à Biarritz ! spécialité ibérique ????🙁
Il est fort douteux que les ordures ibériques prennent le Gulf Steam à rebours, c'est à dire vers le sud et plages marocaines.
Par contre, il y a vingt ans, je n'y suis plus retourné depuis, les plages, de Biarritz aux Landes étaient, l'hiver tout au moins jonchées de récipients plastiques divers dont les libellés étaient espagnols unilingues.
Les immenses plages, vers Capbreton, par exemple présentaient, au gré des marées, des "murs" de plusieurs dizaines de centimètres de ces rejets des égouts du sud, c'est à dire de San Sebastian ou autre.
Les plages étaient, évidemment dégagées avant la saison pour laisser aux touristes une vision idyllique des lieux.
En hiver, R.A.B.
Les choses on je l'espère changé depuis. Mais regardons d'abord chez nous ce que nous reprochons à des pays n'ayant pas encore, faute d'éducation et de moyens, fait le pas vers un tri et un recyclage des ordures.😕 🙂
Je ne dis pas que nous sommes mieux éduqués que les marocains!. Je reproche la même chose, partout sur cette planète. Voyez le film de Yann Arthus Bertrand...
Je vis au bord de la mer, les plages, en fin de journée sont dégueulasses. La différence est que les municipalités embauchent des jeunes en saison pour nettoyer les ordures laissées par les touristes qu'ils soient français ou autre...
Je ne fais pas le procés du Maroc, j'ai seulement été décue de trouver cette merde sur cette trés belle plage que je ne connaissais pas!
Mes photos sur Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/153304262@N05/albums
"Le Temps nous égare. Le Temps nous étreint. Le Temps nous est gare. Le Temps nous est train".
Bonjour,
L'an passé, plage de al Hoceima, un jeune marocain d'une vingtaine d'année passe à notre hauteur, une poubelle est à une quinzaine de metres. Le garçon termine une canette de coca et sans sourciller la jette par dessus son épaule.Un exemple parmi tant d'autres sur la planete.
L'an passé, plage de al Hoceima, un jeune marocain d'une vingtaine d'année passe à notre hauteur, une poubelle est à une quinzaine de metres. Le garçon termine une canette de coca et sans sourciller la jette par dessus son épaule.Un exemple parmi tant d'autres sur la planete.
Carpe Diem
c'est du pipi de chameaux sa !! 4 plastic c tous en plus 100 % que ce sont des touristes marocains qui les ont geté comme sur toutes les plages et les dunes accescibles les gens vont mangent gettent leurs merde et repartent qu'est qu'ils s'en tape c'st propre dans leur maison mes dehors c'est pas leur soucis ; j'ai plongé tous laprem a Skirate il devait avoir 1000 fois la merde que vous avez photographier une marré de pastic l'hélice du moteur c'est bloqué plusieur fois ; et encore une fois qui a mis ces plastoc des gens qui ont en rien a foutre de la propreté et de la nature c'est plus facile de geter ces ordures sur la plage plutot que de faire 100 m avec pour les geter dans la poubelle qui est faite pour sa les marocains non pas ce reflex c'est bien dommage , l'eau est deguelasse l'ocean pret de rabat et pourrie les egouts crash des tonnes saleté rien et filtrés avec sa les ordures des bateau qui passent au large , a voirs dans les prochaines decenie si le Maroc devient une poubelle ;
Visite le MAROC avec son 4x4 :D
en plus 100 % que ce sont des touristes marocains qui les ont geté comme sur toutes les plages et les dunes
les gens vont mangent gettent leurs merde et repartent qu'est qu'ils s'en tape c'st propre dans leur maison mes dehors c'est pas leur soucis
j'ai plongé tous laprem a Skirate il devait avoir 1000 fois la merde
les marocains non pas ce reflex c'est bien dommage ,
l'eau est deguelasse l'ocean pret de rabat et pourrie les egouts crash des tonnes saleté
Je ne suis pas comme ça! NO COMENT!
les gens vont mangent gettent leurs merde et repartent qu'est qu'ils s'en tape c'st propre dans leur maison mes dehors c'est pas leur soucis
j'ai plongé tous laprem a Skirate il devait avoir 1000 fois la merde
les marocains non pas ce reflex c'est bien dommage ,
l'eau est deguelasse l'ocean pret de rabat et pourrie les egouts crash des tonnes saleté
Je ne suis pas comme ça! NO COMENT!
Le but n'était pas de faire de la polémique ni d'ouvrir une discussion où l'on profite de l'occasion pour déverser sa hargne.😠
J'adore le Maroc.😎
Mais le pays est saccagé par la saleté, les promoteurs détruisent les plus beaux sites, les prix augmentent sans cesse, les bibelots made in china envahissent les échoppes, l'accueil est de plus en plus moyen dans les grandes villes... Alors je me dis que de temps en temps il faut pousser un coup de gueule. On n'est pas dans un monde de bisounours et si personne ne dit rien, ne fait rien, le Maroc ne sera plus.
Pour ceux que ça gêne retournez donc aux discussions qui ne parlent que des bonnes adresses maintes fois échangées. Et surtout fermez les yeux!
J'adore le Maroc.😎
Mais le pays est saccagé par la saleté, les promoteurs détruisent les plus beaux sites, les prix augmentent sans cesse, les bibelots made in china envahissent les échoppes, l'accueil est de plus en plus moyen dans les grandes villes... Alors je me dis que de temps en temps il faut pousser un coup de gueule. On n'est pas dans un monde de bisounours et si personne ne dit rien, ne fait rien, le Maroc ne sera plus.
Pour ceux que ça gêne retournez donc aux discussions qui ne parlent que des bonnes adresses maintes fois échangées. Et surtout fermez les yeux!
Mes photos sur Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/153304262@N05/albums
"Le Temps nous égare. Le Temps nous étreint. Le Temps nous est gare. Le Temps nous est train".
alors 99,999999999999999999999999999999999 % des Marocains à pars vous , mais je suis septique 😏
Visite le MAROC avec son 4x4 :D
Malheureusement, c'est le cas de beaucoup de plages au Maroc. Si tu vas voir entre Ahkfenir et Naila, endroit vraiment magnifique, c'est un véritable dépotoir! On me dit que ce sont les Sardiniers qui larguent leurs ordures, mais quand je vois dans quel état est le village le matin, et le vent qui ballade tout ça dans tous les sens, je suis bien obligé de constater ce qui se passe, et ça me fait mal.
j'ai bien aimé Ahkfenir et Naila dommage que les courant rejete tant de platiques l'armada de chaluts pourris doit en etre en grande partis responsable quand a allé éduqués ces pecheurs et leurs dire qu'ils faut pas balancer les ordures ^par dessus bord sa faut pas rever , aussi c'est un cousin qui est le patron de la Courbine D'argent 🙂 j'y suis passé ya 2 ans les paysages les dunes sont superbe j'ai fait quelques petit poissons dans la lagunes c'étais sympa ;
Visite le MAROC avec son 4x4 :D
j'ai bien aimé Ahkfenir et Naila
Merci mon dieu! pourl e semblant de lucidité dans ces paroles!
quand a allé éduqués ces pecheurs et leurs dire qu'ils faut pas balancer les ordures ^par dessus bord sa faut pas rever
Qui va les éduquer? c'est toi?! apprend d'abord à les respecter pour qu'ils t'écoutent! C'est sur que le problème de "l'écologie" se pose au maroc d'une autre façon. dire que c'est du 100% marocain polueur! c'est vraiment injuste. C'est injuste vis à vis d'associations qui oeuvrent pour maintenir ce qu'elles peuvent dans un état propre. Là où on a encouragé le tourisme de masse, le problème des ordures, des constructions de fortune se pose. Et franchement, quand je lis tes paroles, je me dis voilà un touriste que le maroc a tout interêt à perdre!
Merci mon dieu! pourl e semblant de lucidité dans ces paroles!
quand a allé éduqués ces pecheurs et leurs dire qu'ils faut pas balancer les ordures ^par dessus bord sa faut pas rever
Qui va les éduquer? c'est toi?! apprend d'abord à les respecter pour qu'ils t'écoutent! C'est sur que le problème de "l'écologie" se pose au maroc d'une autre façon. dire que c'est du 100% marocain polueur! c'est vraiment injuste. C'est injuste vis à vis d'associations qui oeuvrent pour maintenir ce qu'elles peuvent dans un état propre. Là où on a encouragé le tourisme de masse, le problème des ordures, des constructions de fortune se pose. Et franchement, quand je lis tes paroles, je me dis voilà un touriste que le maroc a tout interêt à perdre!
Bonsoir,
Pas besoin d'aller au Maroc, nos plages bretonnes sont polluées par les plastiques, les marées noires (pétrole), etc... Pollution liée au fort trafic des cargos, pétroliers et autres naviguant au large de nos côtes, aux courants marins, aux touristes, au développement des sports nautiques, etc.. et cette liste est loin d'être exhaustive. Les municipalités consacrent un budget important pour le nettoyage, et ce, toute l'année.
En ce qui concerne le Maroc, je pense que les mêmes réflexions peuvent s'appliquer à la Tunisie ; effectivement, il y beaucoup de plastiques et d'ordures. Mais d'une part, il n'existe pas d'infrastructures et de moyens importants (service de la voirie, poubelles communes en nombre suffisant, ramassage des ordures plus fréquents, nettoyage des plages, etc...) et d'autre part, les habitants ne semblent avoir pas pris encore pleinement conscience de cette pollution. N'oublions pas que nos comportements "propres" d'européens ont été acquis par l'éducation, les volontés collectives et/ou gouvernementales. Souvenir : il y a quelques années, on nous incitait à ne pas laisser dans les dunes les ordures du pique-nique... Et de les déposer dans les poubelles prévues... Par exemple.... N'oublions que nous avons à notre disposition toutes les commodités qui nous permettent d'être "propre" (poubelles pour le tri des déchets, déchetterie, passage hebdomadaire des camions poubelle, etc...). Moins de sacs plastique, c'est vrai et depuis peu ; n'oublions pas que les grandes surfaces se sont aperçues qu'elles augmentaient leurs bénéfices en n'en distribuant plus. Au nom de quoi déjà, du souci de l'environnement ; il me semble d'ailleurs que leur communication a été basée sur ce concept. N'oublions pas aussi que les coûts de traitement des ordures et de la pollution sont extrèmement élevés et que nous devons payer de plus en plus individuellement (voyez vos taxes d'habitation). N'oublions pas que nous polluons d'une autre manière en surconsommant.
Le sujet est vaste et pourrait être développé à l'infini. Ne critiquons pas et n'incriminons pas impunément sous prétexte de nos propres valeurs. Nous jugeons mais sommes aussi jugés. Que pensent les marocains, les tunisiens, de nos comportements touristiques et de nos façons de vivre ?
Sur ce, j'arrête de vous polluer !!!!
Bonne soirée. 😎
Pas besoin d'aller au Maroc, nos plages bretonnes sont polluées par les plastiques, les marées noires (pétrole), etc... Pollution liée au fort trafic des cargos, pétroliers et autres naviguant au large de nos côtes, aux courants marins, aux touristes, au développement des sports nautiques, etc.. et cette liste est loin d'être exhaustive. Les municipalités consacrent un budget important pour le nettoyage, et ce, toute l'année.
En ce qui concerne le Maroc, je pense que les mêmes réflexions peuvent s'appliquer à la Tunisie ; effectivement, il y beaucoup de plastiques et d'ordures. Mais d'une part, il n'existe pas d'infrastructures et de moyens importants (service de la voirie, poubelles communes en nombre suffisant, ramassage des ordures plus fréquents, nettoyage des plages, etc...) et d'autre part, les habitants ne semblent avoir pas pris encore pleinement conscience de cette pollution. N'oublions pas que nos comportements "propres" d'européens ont été acquis par l'éducation, les volontés collectives et/ou gouvernementales. Souvenir : il y a quelques années, on nous incitait à ne pas laisser dans les dunes les ordures du pique-nique... Et de les déposer dans les poubelles prévues... Par exemple.... N'oublions que nous avons à notre disposition toutes les commodités qui nous permettent d'être "propre" (poubelles pour le tri des déchets, déchetterie, passage hebdomadaire des camions poubelle, etc...). Moins de sacs plastique, c'est vrai et depuis peu ; n'oublions pas que les grandes surfaces se sont aperçues qu'elles augmentaient leurs bénéfices en n'en distribuant plus. Au nom de quoi déjà, du souci de l'environnement ; il me semble d'ailleurs que leur communication a été basée sur ce concept. N'oublions pas aussi que les coûts de traitement des ordures et de la pollution sont extrèmement élevés et que nous devons payer de plus en plus individuellement (voyez vos taxes d'habitation). N'oublions pas que nous polluons d'une autre manière en surconsommant.
Le sujet est vaste et pourrait être développé à l'infini. Ne critiquons pas et n'incriminons pas impunément sous prétexte de nos propres valeurs. Nous jugeons mais sommes aussi jugés. Que pensent les marocains, les tunisiens, de nos comportements touristiques et de nos façons de vivre ?
Sur ce, j'arrête de vous polluer !!!!
Bonne soirée. 😎
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Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!