Qu'est ce qui vous a choqué en Thaïlande?
by Passager26
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Tout est dans le titre mais rassurez vous c'est pas un sondage, simplement un peu de curiositee...🙂
" Ils ne savaient pas que c'était impossible, alors ils l'ont fait. "
Salut🙂!
De voir à quel point les gens ne se prenaient pas la tete et à quel point ils prenaient la vie du bon coté...(Moi qui vient d'une région ou t'as pas trop le doit d'etre heureux et de le montrer, sinon t'as droit à des regards de travers...🤪😠)
A plus Lexa😎
De voir à quel point les gens ne se prenaient pas la tete et à quel point ils prenaient la vie du bon coté...(Moi qui vient d'une région ou t'as pas trop le doit d'etre heureux et de le montrer, sinon t'as droit à des regards de travers...🤪😠)
A plus Lexa😎
Tout est dans le titre mais rassurez vous c'est pas un sondage, simplement un peu de curiositee...🙂 qu'est ce qui vous a choquer en Thailande ?
passager26
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passager26
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...Le nombre de touristes qui n'arrêtent pas de faire la morale aux thais. D'expliquer qu'il faudrait faire ceci ou cela, que ce n'est pas bien de boire, d'aller aux filles, de se droguer etc.
Les thais sont assez grand et s'en foutent comme de l'an 40 des remarques des touristes...
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
Choqué positivement :
la beauté des lieux et le climat; la douceur des gens et leur sourire; le fait qu'on me réponde quand je souris et dis bonjour à un(e) inconnu(e); (essaie de faire ça chez nous, tu vas voir... mdr) la circulation (à gauche, faut s'habituer pour traverser la rue 😉); le "cool raoul", "mai pen rai" et autres idiomes qui expriment bien la façon dont ils ne se prennent pas la tête.
Choqué négativement :
- la pauvreté de certains côtoyant luxe de certains endroits; les grandes gueules de CERTAIN(e)S farangs qui s'y croient...; le manque évident de respect d'un vieux cochon blanc sur une plage et la gêne manifeste de la jeune femme thaie qui l'accompagnait, n'osant pas trop se fâcher ... celui-là, il m'a VRAIMENT choquée !!!
J'ai utilisé plusieurs fois le mot "certain(e)" afin d'éviter que qui que ce soit se sente visé et de faire des généralités imbéciles.😉😉
Choqué négativement :
- la pauvreté de certains côtoyant luxe de certains endroits; les grandes gueules de CERTAIN(e)S farangs qui s'y croient...; le manque évident de respect d'un vieux cochon blanc sur une plage et la gêne manifeste de la jeune femme thaie qui l'accompagnait, n'osant pas trop se fâcher ... celui-là, il m'a VRAIMENT choquée !!!
J'ai utilisé plusieurs fois le mot "certain(e)" afin d'éviter que qui que ce soit se sente visé et de faire des généralités imbéciles.😉😉
encore un topic a question existentielle... 😐
Salut Enzo, C'est le bran... de cerveau du dimanche... 😉😉😉😉
Salut Enzo, C'est le bran... de cerveau du dimanche... 😉😉😉😉
encore un topic a question existentielle... 😐
pourvu qu'on ait pas non la question pour chacun des pays du globe...
qu'est ce qui vous choque le plus au vanuatu ?
Les premiers missionnaires presbytériens (britanniques) arrivèrent au Vanuatu en 1839, suivis en 1860 par les anglicans et, en 1887, par les catholiques français; ces communautés religieuses entrèrent aussitôt en rivalité. Des colons britanniques venus d'Australie et des colons français de la Nouvelle-Calédonie commencèrent à s'y établir dès 1854 au détriment des autochtones, ce qui provoqua des révoltes chez ces derniers suivies de sanglantes répressions de la part des Européens (Français et Britanniques). Les infections apportées par les navires — choléra, petite vérole, grippe, pneumonie, fièvre jaune, dysenterie — provoquèrent des épidémies dans la population, ce qui aurait fait passer leur nombre supposément de moins d'un million au début du XIXe siècle à quelque 650 000 en 1870 et, vingt ans plus tard, à 100 000, pour atteindre 41 000 habitants en 1935; les îles d'Anatom et d'Erromango ne conservèrent que 5 % de leur population d'origine. Voila ce qui me choque le plus aux vanuatu 😉
pourvu qu'on ait pas non la question pour chacun des pays du globe...
qu'est ce qui vous choque le plus au vanuatu ?
Les premiers missionnaires presbytériens (britanniques) arrivèrent au Vanuatu en 1839, suivis en 1860 par les anglicans et, en 1887, par les catholiques français; ces communautés religieuses entrèrent aussitôt en rivalité. Des colons britanniques venus d'Australie et des colons français de la Nouvelle-Calédonie commencèrent à s'y établir dès 1854 au détriment des autochtones, ce qui provoqua des révoltes chez ces derniers suivies de sanglantes répressions de la part des Européens (Français et Britanniques). Les infections apportées par les navires — choléra, petite vérole, grippe, pneumonie, fièvre jaune, dysenterie — provoquèrent des épidémies dans la population, ce qui aurait fait passer leur nombre supposément de moins d'un million au début du XIXe siècle à quelque 650 000 en 1870 et, vingt ans plus tard, à 100 000, pour atteindre 41 000 habitants en 1935; les îles d'Anatom et d'Erromango ne conservèrent que 5 % de leur population d'origine. Voila ce qui me choque le plus aux vanuatu 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Salut Enzo, c'est le bran... de cerveau du dimanche... 😉😉😉😉
😛🙂😉😄 Il faut bien bran... quelque chose !
Moi, ce qui me choque, c'est le manque de "fair play" de certains groupes de caucasiennes (éprises de boisson par désoeuvrement sexuel ?), qui, l'alcool mauvais, deviennent agressives avec les locales (ou les LB's) car les farangs ne leur jettent même pas un regard 🤪😛😄
😛🙂😉😄 Il faut bien bran... quelque chose !
Moi, ce qui me choque, c'est le manque de "fair play" de certains groupes de caucasiennes (éprises de boisson par désoeuvrement sexuel ?), qui, l'alcool mauvais, deviennent agressives avec les locales (ou les LB's) car les farangs ne leur jettent même pas un regard 🤪😛😄
On ne fait pas un voyage... C'est le voyage qui vous fait, ou vous défait !
Je comprends... et j'approuve... mais je ne pense pas que cela se passe plus particulièrement en Thailande. Le genre de femmes dont tu parles a ce genre de réaction partout, c'est une question de mental, être bien ou pas dans sa peau, savoir ce que l'on veut et savoir jusqu'où ne pas placer la barre trop haut...
Des "mal b...", j'en connais des tas, ce n'est pas demain la veille qu'elles vont s'améliorer 😕
Note que, tout bien réfléchi, on peut parfois être "mal b..." et être quand même bien dans ses baskets, une fois de plus, tout est une question de moral... et de partenaire .... 😉😉😉😉
Note que, tout bien réfléchi, on peut parfois être "mal b..." et être quand même bien dans ses baskets, une fois de plus, tout est une question de moral... et de partenaire .... 😉😉😉😉
Ce qui me choque c plutot les touristes qui sont allés qq fois en Thailande et qui croient tout connaitre de la Thailande et sinon il y a certains "farang" qui aiment bien venir raconter leur aventures sur le forum pour se la péter genre j'ai fait le tour de la Thailande en vélo et je connais du pays et tout le blabla...
Choqué positivement :
la beauté des lieux et le climat; la douceur des gens et leur sourire; le fait qu'on me réponde quand je souris et dis bonjour à un(e) inconnu(e); (essaie de faire ça chez nous, tu vas voir... mdr) la circulation (à gauche, faut s'habituer pour traverser la rue 😉); le "cool raoul", "mai pen rai" et autres idiomes qui expriment bien la façon dont ils ne se prennent pas la tête.
Choqué négativement :
- la pauvreté de certains côtoyant luxe de certains endroits; les grandes gueules de CERTAIN(e)S farangs qui s'y croient...; le manque évident de respect d'un vieux cochon blanc sur une plage et la gêne manifeste de la jeune femme thaie qui l'accompagnait, n'osant pas trop se fâcher ... celui-là, il m'a VRAIMENT choquée !!!
J'ai utilisé plusieurs fois le mot "certain(e)" afin d'éviter que qui que ce soit se sente visé et de faire des généralités imbéciles.😉😉
Entièrement d'accord avec toi, encore que pour la circulation, en quoi ça te choque "positivement"? Pour ce qui est des vieux cochons blanc, c'est leur manière de déambuler leur gros bide bien gras (pour la plupart...) sans complexe.... Et tout ces vicieux qui passent leur temps dans les bars.... on n'a pas la même notion de "voyage..."
Choqué négativement :
- la pauvreté de certains côtoyant luxe de certains endroits; les grandes gueules de CERTAIN(e)S farangs qui s'y croient...; le manque évident de respect d'un vieux cochon blanc sur une plage et la gêne manifeste de la jeune femme thaie qui l'accompagnait, n'osant pas trop se fâcher ... celui-là, il m'a VRAIMENT choquée !!!
J'ai utilisé plusieurs fois le mot "certain(e)" afin d'éviter que qui que ce soit se sente visé et de faire des généralités imbéciles.😉😉
Entièrement d'accord avec toi, encore que pour la circulation, en quoi ça te choque "positivement"? Pour ce qui est des vieux cochons blanc, c'est leur manière de déambuler leur gros bide bien gras (pour la plupart...) sans complexe.... Et tout ces vicieux qui passent leur temps dans les bars.... on n'a pas la même notion de "voyage..."
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Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
Des "mal b...", j'en connais des tas, ce n'est pas demain la veille qu'elles vont s'améliorer 😕 Note que, tout bien réfléchi, on peut parfois être "mal b..." et être quand même bien dans ses baskets, une fois de plus, tout est une question de moral... et de partenaire .... 😉😉😉😉
C'est vrai aujourd'hui, il y a les "Sex Toys" pour vous consoler des mauvais coups les filles 😛😄 On n'est jamais mieux servi que par soi-même lol Et toi, c'est quoi le petit nom de ton canard vibrant ottlnpc. Ce partenaire infatiguable -et pas contrariant- qui a réveillé ta libido ? 😏😉
C'est vrai aujourd'hui, il y a les "Sex Toys" pour vous consoler des mauvais coups les filles 😛😄 On n'est jamais mieux servi que par soi-même lol Et toi, c'est quoi le petit nom de ton canard vibrant ottlnpc. Ce partenaire infatiguable -et pas contrariant- qui a réveillé ta libido ? 😏😉
On ne fait pas un voyage... C'est le voyage qui vous fait, ou vous défait !
Les jaloux incurables 😉
On ne désire pas ce qu'on ne connaît pas.
On écrit pour raconter, non pour prouver.
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Ce qui me choque c plutot les touristes qui sont allés qq fois en Thailande et qui croient tout connaitre de la Thailande et sinon il y a certains "farang" qui aiment bien venir raconter leur aventures sur le forum pour se la péter genre j'ai fait le tour de la Thailande en vélo et je connais du pays et tout le blabla...
Un peu gonflé Pongiste, j'ai été faire un petit tour sur ton profil et voilà comment tu parle de ceux/celles qui t'ont aidé à préparer ton voyage!😮Le masque serait-il tombé?
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Un peu gonflé Pongiste, j'ai été faire un petit tour sur ton profil et voilà comment tu parle de ceux/celles qui t'ont aidé à préparer ton voyage!😮Le masque serait-il tombé?
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sinon il y a certains "farang" qui aiment bien venir raconter leur aventures sur le forum pour se la péter
déjà entendu sur d'autres posts, c'est d'un commun, et a part de raconter des c.... ?
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déjà entendu sur d'autres posts, c'est d'un commun, et a part de raconter des c.... ?
😉
puisque les farangs s'en sont pris déjà plein la gueule, je vais essayer de critiquer un peu les thaïs.
attendez... hum, pas évident.... eu chais pas, ils font des avions bizarres à tête d'oiseau?
En tous cas à Rome fais comme les romains. (sinon casse toi! 😉)
attendez... hum, pas évident.... eu chais pas, ils font des avions bizarres à tête d'oiseau?
En tous cas à Rome fais comme les romains. (sinon casse toi! 😉)
profitons de cette vie si courte!!! Ao sanuk mak mak touk touk wan. (I wanna enjoy life everyday)
encore que pour la circulation, en quoi ça te choque "positivement"?
oups... c'est une erreur qui n'était pas juste... au départ, je n'avais pas scindé le positif du négatif et j'ai oublié d'ôter la phrase; disons que cela m'a "amusée" tout en m'occasionnant quelques frayeurs les premiers jours 😎😎😎
oups... c'est une erreur qui n'était pas juste... au départ, je n'avais pas scindé le positif du négatif et j'ai oublié d'ôter la phrase; disons que cela m'a "amusée" tout en m'occasionnant quelques frayeurs les premiers jours 😎😎😎
Ce partenaire infatiguable -et pas contrariant- qui a réveillé ta libido ? 😏😉
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😉😉😉😉😉
sawadee à tous
le choc pour moi c'était comme tous ceux qui vont en ASIE la gentillesse des gens il n'y a jamais de problême tous ce résolu rapidement la beauté du pays le sourire des gens jeunes ou vieux même s'ils n'on rien.
Nous avons beaucoup à apprendre en france car nous notre pays fait la gueule malgré nos avantage même les bourgeois sont agressifs avec leurs fric
et c'est pour ca que nous allons nous ressourcer tout les ans en attendant un jour que la france changera et ce n'est pas encore gagner
DAN
et c'est pour ca que nous allons nous ressourcer tout les ans en attendant un jour que la france changera et ce n'est pas encore gagner
DAN
VIVEZ HEUREUX AUJOURD'HUI CAR DEMAIN IL SERA TROP TARD (TAO BY)
CARPE DIEM
C'est vrai, c'est choquant de faire ces choses au Vanuatu, alors que Marseille éait beaucoup plus prés.😎
yama
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
Ce partenaire infatiguable -et pas contrariant- qui a réveillé ta libido ?
Si tu es à cours d'inspiration, appelle-le Yama . 😎
Si tu es à cours d'inspiration, appelle-le Yama . 😎
yama
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
sawadee à tous
le choc pour moi c'était comme tous ceux qui vont en ASIE la gentillesse des gens il n'y a jamais de problême tous ce résolu rapidement la beauté du pays le sourire des gens jeunes ou vieux même s'ils n'on rien.
Nous avons beaucoup à apprendre en france car nous notre pays fait la gueule malgré nos avantage même les bourgeois sont agressifs avec leurs fric
C'est parce que les etres infèrieurs que nous sommes n'ont pas encore atteint ce nieau d'éveil qui permet de garder le sourire en se faisant enc..ler. Encore une petite taf, c'est du Libanais !
C'est parce que les etres infèrieurs que nous sommes n'ont pas encore atteint ce nieau d'éveil qui permet de garder le sourire en se faisant enc..ler. Encore une petite taf, c'est du Libanais !
yama
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
Moi ce qui m'a marqué c'est la générosité des thai. Toujours prêts a aider, même si ils n'en ont pas les moyens, ou moins que nous.
Et la relative facilité d'intégration, on a beau dire, quand même, il n'y a pas beaucoup d'actes rascismes la bas, dumoins je n'en ai pas vu (sauf peut être la discrimination sur les prix, mais à la limite je suis pour, ca leut fait une économie a 2 vitesse et permet aux thai les moins chanceux de survire, mais ca c'est un autre débat.). Imaginez des hordes de touristes chinoix lachés a longeur d'année dans toutes nos villes, je ne pense que certaines personnes n'auraient pas le même respect pour eux chez nous, que eux ont pour nous dans leur pays.
Bémol, bémol, bémol.......
Là tu tombes dans l'angélisme!Aimer un endroit n'empèche pas un cetain réalisme.Parles-tu Thai ? connais-tu bien le pays ? car ce que tu décris là, c'était tout à fait mes impressions et mon discours des premiers séjours !
Ils ne sont pas racistes ? avec les blancs ?pas trop.Quoi que...je te souhaite de ne jamais avoir de contencieux avec un Thai en Thailande.Là tu comprendras trés vite ou est ta place.N'oublies pas que nous représentons un certain pouvoir d'achat pour eux.Et qu'ils n'arrivent pas vraiment à concevoir que nous ne sommes pas tous richissimes.Quand tu leur parle des salaires chez nous ils hallucines.Ils n'arrivent pas à concevoir que 1000€ /mois ce n'est rien en France! chez nous c'est pareil, as-t-on déjà refuser l'entrée dans une boite à un milliardaire Saoudien ?par contre un maghrébin...
Avec les autres asiatiques c'est encore différent.Un Jap ou certains chinois, sont considérés comme les farangs.Ils ont du fric !
Leurs cousins du sud-est asiatique, c'est une autre paire de manche.
Rappelle-toi des conditions de vie des réfugiés Cambodgiens.Les malheureux"boat people"Viets furent massacré, violées, pillés par les gentils pécheurs Thais(re-baptisés"pirates" par le gouvernement)avec la bénédiction des autorités(qui voyaient-là, un bon moyen d"endiguer le flot des réfugiés).Et les Karens, akas et autres minorités de Birmanie réfugiés en Thailande.Tiens, demande à un Thai ce qu'il pense des Birmans.A l'intèrieur meme du Royaume, comment un habitant de BKK voit-il les Issans?
De toute manière as-tu vu beaucoup d'étrangers dans le pays?(hors des centres touristiques).C'est du nombre que naissent les problèmes raciaux.Les Thais sont au contraire un peuple trés nationaliste(ce quiu me convient trés bien).Les drapeaux que tu vois fleurir partout n'en sont-ils pas l'expression.
J'aime profondment ce pays.J'y finirait certaiement(s'ils veulent de moi) mes jours, ça ne m'empèche pas de marcher les yeux ouverts.
yama
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
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ça va DR2 ?
Il faudrait que j'aille dormir, mais je n'ai pas sommeil.C'est à cet instant qu'on regrette vraiment d'etre en France.
yama
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
ça va DR2 ?
Il faudrait que j'aille dormir, mais je n'ai pas sommeil.C'est à cet instant qu'on regrette vraiment d'etre en France.
comme je te comprends ! je te dis pas ou je me trouve et ce que je fais, je vais te couper ton sommeil moi aussi, j'y vais mais pas au lit, enfin.....😇
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comme je te comprends ! je te dis pas ou je me trouve et ce que je fais, je vais te couper ton sommeil moi aussi, j'y vais mais pas au lit, enfin.....😇
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ça va DR2 ?
Il faudrait que j'aille dormir, mais je n'ai pas sommeil.C'est à cet instant qu'on regrette vraiment d'etre en France.
comme je te comprends ! je te dis pas ou je me trouve et ce que je fais, je vais te couper ton sommeil moi aussi, j'y vais mais pas au lit, enfin.....😇
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😛😉😄 Dragon Rouge 2 va à la ""golden mine" ce soir ! L'heureux homme 😇
comme je te comprends ! je te dis pas ou je me trouve et ce que je fais, je vais te couper ton sommeil moi aussi, j'y vais mais pas au lit, enfin.....😇
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😛😉😄 Dragon Rouge 2 va à la ""golden mine" ce soir ! L'heureux homme 😇
On ne fait pas un voyage... C'est le voyage qui vous fait, ou vous défait !
Je trouve ta question amusante, alors je vais te donner mon point de vue 😉, c'est vrai que certains points releves precedement sont interessants et pourraient etre plus developper mais c'est pas plus mal si l'on en reste la car j'imagine que ca engendrerait bien d'autres commentaires dont on se passera...
et bien pour moi ce qui me choque ou plutot ce qui me derange (je sais que ca va faire rire mais c'est aussi un peu pour ca et pour rester bon enfant ...) ce sont les "U.Turn", aussi genants que dangeureux !!!!
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
et bien pour moi ce qui me choque ou plutot ce qui me derange (je sais que ca va faire rire mais c'est aussi un peu pour ca et pour rester bon enfant ...) ce sont les "U.Turn", aussi genants que dangeureux !!!!
Bonjour.Peux-tu me dire ce dont il s'agit ? "celui qui pose une question bète à l'air stupide cinq minutes, celui qui ne la pose pas, le restera toute sa vie" 😎
Bonjour.Peux-tu me dire ce dont il s'agit ? "celui qui pose une question bète à l'air stupide cinq minutes, celui qui ne la pose pas, le restera toute sa vie" 😎
yama
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
Ce qui m'a choquée : les jeunes touristes (jeune comme moi ;-) qui passent la journée à regarder des DVDs et picoler à la guesthouse alors qu'il y a tant de belles choses à découvrir quelques rues + loin les agences de voyage européennes qui font croire à leurs touristes que c'est dangereux de se promener, juste pour qu'ils fassent les excursions avec leur agence en payant 3 fois plus cher, argent qui ne revient certainement pas aux thais...
ValerieM
C'est vrai, c'est choquant de faire ces choses au Vanuatu, alors que Marseille éait beaucoup plus prés.😎
"ce qui aurait fait passer leur nombre supposément de moins d'un million au début du XIXe siècle à quelque 650 000 en 1870 et, vingt ans plus tard, à 100 000, pour atteindre 41 000 habitants en 1935;"
je n'osais pas rêver cela!!!😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏
"ce qui aurait fait passer leur nombre supposément de moins d'un million au début du XIXe siècle à quelque 650 000 en 1870 et, vingt ans plus tard, à 100 000, pour atteindre 41 000 habitants en 1935;"
je n'osais pas rêver cela!!!😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏
- J'ai des envies de voyage."L'Océanie, Bora-Bora, les Vahinés, tu connais?"
- "Pourquoi, tu veux m'emmener?"
- "On n'emmène pas des saucisses quand on va à Francfort.."
- t'aurais pu dire;"une rose quand on va sur la Loire, question de terme.."
je n'osais pas rêver cela!!!😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏
Honte sur toi... tu réciteras trois pater et deux ave maria
Honte sur toi... tu réciteras trois pater et deux ave maria
je n'osais pas rêver cela!!!😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏
Honte sur toi... tu réciteras trois pater et deux ave maria
"ave l'assent"?😉
Honte sur toi... tu réciteras trois pater et deux ave maria
"ave l'assent"?😉
- J'ai des envies de voyage."L'Océanie, Bora-Bora, les Vahinés, tu connais?"
- "Pourquoi, tu veux m'emmener?"
- "On n'emmène pas des saucisses quand on va à Francfort.."
- t'aurais pu dire;"une rose quand on va sur la Loire, question de terme.."
D'accord sur le fait de voir les jeunes continuer a boire et a bouffer au coin de la rue toute la journee (c'est un probleme de generation je crois bien !) mais cette fois ce qui me derange le plus c'est de voir que malgre toutes les campagnes de sensibilisations (a ce qu'on m'a dit) qui sont faites a travers les spots et les journaux, la pollution dans les rues est toujours aussi importante, les Thailandais se fouttent totalement de leur environement et prenent les rues et les rivieres pour des depotoirs publics, vraiment c'est dommage
je pense que c'est juste un problème d'adaptation aux nouvelles contraintes de notre monde !
sais tu que nos poubelles individuelles chez nous ont doublé de poids depuis quelques dizaines d'années, et nous n'avons pas encore le reflexe du tri ( moi le premier )
les habitudes quelques soient ont la paeu dure, il n'y a qu'a voir, nos mentalités qui refusent de changer devant ce nouveau monde qui nous attends, et ce n'est pas force de lire, ou de voir dans cette télévision médoicre ( n'est pas backpaper 😏😏 ???) ce qui nous attends !
allez ne désespérons pas, il y a des idéalistes qui font avancer les autres et changent les mentalités ( je rigole tout seul 😏😏 en attendant ce que cela va déclancher comme réponses connes ou intelligentes ........😏😏😏😏😏)
sais tu que nos poubelles individuelles chez nous ont doublé de poids depuis quelques dizaines d'années, et nous n'avons pas encore le reflexe du tri ( moi le premier )
les habitudes quelques soient ont la paeu dure, il n'y a qu'a voir, nos mentalités qui refusent de changer devant ce nouveau monde qui nous attends, et ce n'est pas force de lire, ou de voir dans cette télévision médoicre ( n'est pas backpaper 😏😏 ???) ce qui nous attends !
allez ne désespérons pas, il y a des idéalistes qui font avancer les autres et changent les mentalités ( je rigole tout seul 😏😏 en attendant ce que cela va déclancher comme réponses connes ou intelligentes ........😏😏😏😏😏)
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je suis bien d'accord avec toi, c'est un probleme d'education et je mets pas les Thais eux memes en cause puisque personne ne leur a dit mais certains d'entres eux, apparement haut places dans les bureaux ont tout de meme une lueur de changement lorsqu'ils vont acheter leur mac do au coin de la rue, ils pourraient donc avoir cette meme petite lueur lorsqu'ils jetent leur papier 🙂😛ou leur bouteille par dessus bord..
comme tu dis attendons les reponses mais essayons de ne pas deraper du sujet non plus😎
comme tu dis attendons les reponses mais essayons de ne pas deraper du sujet non plus😎
C'est sur je n'ai pas passé 10 ans en Thailande, juste 6 mois, bon comme je disais pour ma part, et seulement ma part je n'ai jamais vu un acte rasciste ou que ce soit en thailande, a part comme je dis la discrémination sur les prix, après comme je dis j'ai surrement eu beaucoup de chance, après je suis tout a fait d'accord avec toi, on représente la richesse pour eux, et de ce fait ils sont tout de suite très gentils avec nous...Bon je parle seulement les rudiments thailandais grace a mes copines qui nous ont appris.
Mais j'ai l'impression qu'on a eu beaucoup de chance nous en Thailande car même après notre accident de scooter, la police n'a rien fait dutout contre nous, elle nous a laissé repartir libre comme l'air, sans rien payer, on avait peut être une bonne étoile qui veillait sur nous.
La question des 1000 euros par mois les étonnes c'est sur, bon mais quand tu leur explique qu'une nuit d'hotel coute 50 dollars us, qu'un repas en coute 20, en general ils déchantent assez vite ^^.
Par contre j'ai remarqué qu'au Laos par exemple, ils aimaient déja bien moins les touristes d'une manière génerale.
Nationalises, le mot est faible!! L'hymne pour l'empereur au cinéma m'étonne a chaque fois, bon après les anciens poussent un peu les jeunes qui ne sont pas forcément très très motivés la dessus (ca ce sont nos amies thai qui nous ont dit ca).
Enfin bon...
Comme toi je n'ai passe qu'une dizaines de mois sur place a l'occasion de voyages divers mais je ne uis pas trop d'accord avec toi quant tu dis que les jeunes sont pas motives, cela depends bcp je crois car je les aient souvent vus tres fervents dans leur hymne matinal y compris dans les gares de Hua Lampong ou personne ne les regarde nescessairement...
tiens au fait, vous avez remarquer le changement dans la gare, on affiche plus les horaires et les destinations en anglais, ca c'est dommage, ou alors c'est momentane ???
tiens au fait, vous avez remarquer le changement dans la gare, on affiche plus les horaires et les destinations en anglais, ca c'est dommage, ou alors c'est momentane ???
Moi je ne parlais pas de l'hymne national mais de l'hymne pour l'empereur, mais oui ils sont toujours prêts, mais quand j'ai demandé a mes copines, elles m'ont dit, bon nous on est jeune c'est comme ca on doit suivre....
La question des 1000 euros par mois les étonnes c'est sur, bon mais quand tu leur explique qu'une nuit d'hotel coute 50 dollars us, qu'un repas en coute 20, en general ils déchantent assez vite ^^.
En effet, lorsque j'ai une conversation de ce genre, je fais directement le parallèle avec notre coût de la vie. Je donne le prix d'un pain, d'un kilo de riz, d'un paquet de cigarettes... des choses que la plupart d'entre eux achètent régulièrement; ensuite j'enchaîne sur les loyers et la démonstration est faite. Quand ils me demandent comment je fais pour venir en vacances si loin, je leur explique mon parcours du combattant et les économies que je dois faire toute une année. Je pense que pour leur faire comprendre que nous ne sommes pas tous millionnaires (même pas en baths), il faut donner des exemples concrets et bassement matérialistes.
En effet, lorsque j'ai une conversation de ce genre, je fais directement le parallèle avec notre coût de la vie. Je donne le prix d'un pain, d'un kilo de riz, d'un paquet de cigarettes... des choses que la plupart d'entre eux achètent régulièrement; ensuite j'enchaîne sur les loyers et la démonstration est faite. Quand ils me demandent comment je fais pour venir en vacances si loin, je leur explique mon parcours du combattant et les économies que je dois faire toute une année. Je pense que pour leur faire comprendre que nous ne sommes pas tous millionnaires (même pas en baths), il faut donner des exemples concrets et bassement matérialistes.
Oui la méthode de la comparaison fait toujours son petit effet sur eux.
Content de voir que je ne suis pas le seul a avoir eu ce reflex ;)
Juste une petite précision, il n'y a pas d'empereur en Thaïlande mais un roi. Et l'hymne joué pour le roi et l'hymne national ne font qu'un.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
U-turn: possibilité de faire demi-tour lorsqu'on se trouve sur une sorte d'autoroute.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Oui un roi autant pour moi.
Par contre je persiste et signe ce n'est pas le même hymne, l'hymne pour le roi s'appelle PLENG SAN SURN PRA BA RA MEE et l'hyme national s'appel PLENG CHAT THA !.
Et ce sont bein 2 hymnes différents. Dommage ;)
L'hymne du roi est chanté lors des célebrations en son honneur, et c'est celle la qui est jouée dans les cinémas; et l'hymne national est chanté 2 fois dans la journée, a 8heures du matin et a 18heures à l'école, devant le drapeau, avant que les cours ne commencent.
L'hymne du roi est chanté lors des célebrations en son honneur, et c'est celle la qui est jouée dans les cinémas; et l'hymne national est chanté 2 fois dans la journée, a 8heures du matin et a 18heures à l'école, devant le drapeau, avant que les cours ne commencent.
Merci, j'ai apris quelque chose, aujourdéhui.😉
yama
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
hètent régulièremeEn effet, lorsque j'ai une conversation de ce genre, je fais directement le parallèle avec notre coût de la vie. Je donne le prix d'un pain, d'un kilo de riz, d'un paquet de cigarettes... des choses que la plupart d'entre eux achètent; ensuite j'enchaîne sur les loyers et la démonstration est faite.--
Le problême, c'est que c'est là que ça se gâte : car, lorsque les gens sont payés 200 bahts par jour, ce qui est très fréquent, cela correspond à 3, 5 paquets de Marlboro, 6, 5 canettes de bière dans un supermarché, 7 litres de gasoil, ou trois kilos de poulet. Personne en Europe ne travaille une journée pour trois kilos de poulet ou sept litres de gasoil... Une voiture neuve en Thailande c'est 500 000 bahts minimum. Calculez combien de jours de travail cela fait....
Le problême, c'est que c'est là que ça se gâte : car, lorsque les gens sont payés 200 bahts par jour, ce qui est très fréquent, cela correspond à 3, 5 paquets de Marlboro, 6, 5 canettes de bière dans un supermarché, 7 litres de gasoil, ou trois kilos de poulet. Personne en Europe ne travaille une journée pour trois kilos de poulet ou sept litres de gasoil... Une voiture neuve en Thailande c'est 500 000 bahts minimum. Calculez combien de jours de travail cela fait....
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JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
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Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Bonjour, qui serait sur place en ce moment à Flores? d apres des sites internet, tout serait fermé, la situation serait difficile ; notre guide dirait que ça va ; qui croire? nous sommes censés partir le 2 septembre ; merci à celles et ceux qui sont à Flores en ce moment
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!