Que pensent les vietnamiens de l'adoption?
by Cauroir
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Ma fille est née au Vietnam et y a été adoptée.
Nous y retournons cet été.
Mais que pensent en general les Vietnamiens de l'adoption ?
Devons nous nous attendre a des reactions (sympathiques, hostiles, ...) ou a de l'indifférence ?
Merci
Didier
Bonjour,
Il y a des bons et des pas bons comme dans tous les pays.
Si tu tombes sur un enfant adoptif qui te reconnaît et qui travaille bien à l'école, parce qu'il sait saisir l'opportunité, là tu as la chance. Tu auras sa reconnaissance, plus tard, quand il réussira dans sa vie.
On dit souvent qu'il vaut mieux avoir un enfant adoptif que d'avoir son propre enfant, mais les avis sont partagés.
Si ton argent ne sert que pour ses dépenses personnelles ou pour sa famille dans les vêtements ou dans les sorties, là c'est tout autre chose.
Quant à moi, je suis pour l'adoption d'un enfant dont la famille n'a pas le moyen de l'envoyer à l'école. D'ailleurs, ce que je ferai quand je me retirerai au VN, à la retraite.
Cordialement,
Bonjour,
Je suis allée au Vietnam en avril 2008 avec mon fils adopté au Vietnam et qui avait 13 ans au moment de ce voyage.
Pour ma part, j'ai vraiment été très touchée de l'accueil des Vietnamiens : nous n'avons eu que de très bonnes réactions et beaucoup de sourires. La réaction des Vietnamiens à mon égard a toujours été très favorable. Certains étaient très étonnés et cela a été un excellent moyen d'engager la conversation et de leur expliquer que nous venions afin que mon fils fasse la connaissance du Vietnam.
Ils sont très heureux de voir nous revenons avec notre enfant dans son pays de naissance. C'est pour eux très important et ils le considèrent avant tout comme Vietnamien, au grand étonnement de mon fils qui lui se sent tout à fait Français!
Je m'étais posé la même question avant de partir, mais il n'y a vraiment aucun souci, au contraire.
Cordialement
Helene
http://lessampaniersduvietnam.over-blog.org/
bonjour,
Je me permets de vous dire qu'aimer un enfant c'est aujourd'hui et demain, je trouve immoral de parler d'aider un enfant qu'à son retour au pays. Tant d'enfants attendent aujourd'hui d'etre aidés par un parrainage, des enfants orphelins, des non orphelins avec un ou deux parents pauvres. d'autres encore handicapés...... faites le pas au present pour l'avenir de l'enfant
merci pour eux
Je me permets de vous dire qu'aimer un enfant c'est aujourd'hui et demain, je trouve immoral de parler d'aider un enfant qu'à son retour au pays. Tant d'enfants attendent aujourd'hui d'etre aidés par un parrainage, des enfants orphelins, des non orphelins avec un ou deux parents pauvres. d'autres encore handicapés...... faites le pas au present pour l'avenir de l'enfant
merci pour eux
que pensent en general les Vietnamiens de l'adoption ?
Pour aider tout le monde de comprendre la réaction des viêtnamiens, je vais appel à la tradition viêtnamienne🙂
Chez nous, il arrive souvent que des enfants vivent avec les grands parents, les tatas et tontons voire même chez des amis des parents, quand les parents n'ont pas de possibilité pour élever leurs enfants, soit par éloignement professionnel soit par insuffisance matérielle. La notion de famille est donc très élargie. Les parents qui assument l'éducation d'un enfant jouent un rôle aussi important que les parents biologiques.
Donc, il faut s'attendre à un bon accueil en général. Un enfant qui vit au Viêtnam dans une famille qui n'est pas la sienne se sent bien intégré, car il est considéré comme un enfant de la famille et l'entourage ne voit pas de différence avec l'enfant qui vit parmi ses cousins ou cousines.
Pour aider tout le monde de comprendre la réaction des viêtnamiens, je vais appel à la tradition viêtnamienne🙂
Chez nous, il arrive souvent que des enfants vivent avec les grands parents, les tatas et tontons voire même chez des amis des parents, quand les parents n'ont pas de possibilité pour élever leurs enfants, soit par éloignement professionnel soit par insuffisance matérielle. La notion de famille est donc très élargie. Les parents qui assument l'éducation d'un enfant jouent un rôle aussi important que les parents biologiques.
Donc, il faut s'attendre à un bon accueil en général. Un enfant qui vit au Viêtnam dans une famille qui n'est pas la sienne se sent bien intégré, car il est considéré comme un enfant de la famille et l'entourage ne voit pas de différence avec l'enfant qui vit parmi ses cousins ou cousines.
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Bonjour,
En réponse à votre reproche, je me permets de dire que vous avez raison de me dire ainsi.
aimer un enfant c'est aujourd'hui et demain, je trouve immoral de parler d'aider un enfant qu'à son retour au pays.
Il est vrai qu'il fait aider maintenant, mais je mentionne surtout pas par l'intermédiaire d'une association. Ce sera immoral pour ma part. Etant travaillé déjà pour une association venant en aide les enfants des familles pauvres au VN, ainsi que les orphelins. Moyennant d'une certaine somme, versée mensuellement, on pourrait venir (sous forme de parrainage) en aide ces enfants pour puis qu'il puisse continuer ses études. Je connais très bien ce slogan. Cependant, travaillant au sein de cette association, je me suis rendu compte qu'une grande partie de l'argent collecté sert pour payer les voyages des personnes de cette association qui vont au VN comme si vous allez au marché, près de chez vous, c'est à dire une fois par semaine. Par Air France, s'il vous plaît. Et elles se relaient pour partir. Cela m'a écoeuré. C'est la raison pour laquelle, j'ai bien dit que j'aiderai les enfants pauvres quand je serai sur place, au VN. Quand ? à la retraite. Au moins, je serai conscient de mes actes. Ce n'est pas de l'égoïsme. Deuxièmement, vous savez bien que je suis comme les plupart des asiatiques. On envoie souvent l'agent à la famille au VN, sous forme d'aide. Troisièmement, il fait également s'occuper de mes petits enfants, petits neveux et petites nièces, en France. Leur donner des cadeaux. Il y a beaucoup de fêtes en France, n'est ce pas? Ce qui me reste de mon labeur, je dois ma famille et voyager, n'est ce pas ? Les euros, j'ai déjà essayé, mais ça ne pousse dans mon jardin. C'est dommage. Voilà, je vous cite ces quelques raisons personnelles. Cordialement
aimer un enfant c'est aujourd'hui et demain, je trouve immoral de parler d'aider un enfant qu'à son retour au pays.
Il est vrai qu'il fait aider maintenant, mais je mentionne surtout pas par l'intermédiaire d'une association. Ce sera immoral pour ma part. Etant travaillé déjà pour une association venant en aide les enfants des familles pauvres au VN, ainsi que les orphelins. Moyennant d'une certaine somme, versée mensuellement, on pourrait venir (sous forme de parrainage) en aide ces enfants pour puis qu'il puisse continuer ses études. Je connais très bien ce slogan. Cependant, travaillant au sein de cette association, je me suis rendu compte qu'une grande partie de l'argent collecté sert pour payer les voyages des personnes de cette association qui vont au VN comme si vous allez au marché, près de chez vous, c'est à dire une fois par semaine. Par Air France, s'il vous plaît. Et elles se relaient pour partir. Cela m'a écoeuré. C'est la raison pour laquelle, j'ai bien dit que j'aiderai les enfants pauvres quand je serai sur place, au VN. Quand ? à la retraite. Au moins, je serai conscient de mes actes. Ce n'est pas de l'égoïsme. Deuxièmement, vous savez bien que je suis comme les plupart des asiatiques. On envoie souvent l'agent à la famille au VN, sous forme d'aide. Troisièmement, il fait également s'occuper de mes petits enfants, petits neveux et petites nièces, en France. Leur donner des cadeaux. Il y a beaucoup de fêtes en France, n'est ce pas? Ce qui me reste de mon labeur, je dois ma famille et voyager, n'est ce pas ? Les euros, j'ai déjà essayé, mais ça ne pousse dans mon jardin. C'est dommage. Voilà, je vous cite ces quelques raisons personnelles. Cordialement
bonjour,
A QuangHung et Babiphi : je ne voudrais pas que ce fil degenere sur une relation tendue ou des echanges discourtois alors que ce forum se veut un lieu d'echanges
Je pense qu'il y a confusion dans mes propos : ma fille a été adoptée (a l'orphelinat) est est avec nous depuis déjà 12 ans et nous retournons au vietnam pour la premiere fois. Je ne savais pas comment cela pouvait etre perçu de la part des vietnamiens mais le second post (message d'helmat) repond parfaitement a ma question. Abalone apporte egalement une reponse culturelle tout aussi interessante.
Je crains qu'un post sur l'adoption a l'etranger derape rapidement tellement il y aurait a dire de bonnes comme de mauvaises choses.
Soyez cool et courtois svp dans vos echanges ! Merci Didier
Je pense qu'il y a confusion dans mes propos : ma fille a été adoptée (a l'orphelinat) est est avec nous depuis déjà 12 ans et nous retournons au vietnam pour la premiere fois. Je ne savais pas comment cela pouvait etre perçu de la part des vietnamiens mais le second post (message d'helmat) repond parfaitement a ma question. Abalone apporte egalement une reponse culturelle tout aussi interessante.
Je crains qu'un post sur l'adoption a l'etranger derape rapidement tellement il y aurait a dire de bonnes comme de mauvaises choses.
Soyez cool et courtois svp dans vos echanges ! Merci Didier
Bonsoir,
Je suis dans le cas d'helmat, mère d'un enfant adopté il y a 14 ans à Saigon, nous sommes retournés en famille en 2006 et 2007 et nous avons reçu un accueil chaleureux de la part des vietnamiens, souvent de la curiosité et des questions très spontanées et sympathiques. Cela a facilité le contact avec la population et cela a enrichi notre voyage de belles rencontres. Cela a été l'occasion pour notre enfant de "démystifier", de connaître son pays d'origine et pour nous de voir ce pays sous un meilleur jour car le périple de l'adoption avait été difficile.
On ne pense qu'à y retourner depuis !
Si votre enfant est d'accord pour y aller, foncez !
Cordialement,
bonsoir Chrysbau,
Pour nous le sejour au vietnam pour l'adoption reste un tres beau souvenir
Bien sur les procedures, c'est penible mais on l'a vecu comme un passage obligé, un moyen aussi de garantir que tout se passe comme il se doit...
Mais on y a vecu de tres beaux moments, rencontré des gens tres biens, ... donc nous avons envie d'y retourner, revoir ces personnes, dont certaines avec lesquelles nous sommes toujours en contact
Pour nous aussi c'est un merveilleux souvenir malgré des moments difficiles : doutes, mon mari qui doit rentrer, isolement, difficulté avec notre bébé, embuches administratives..
Vous allez vivre de grandes émotions quand vous retournerez sur les lieux forts de cette aventure : nous avons retrouvé la religieuse qui nous avait confié notre fils, quel grand moment pour notre lui, pour nous et pour elle.Et cela nous a fait beaucoup de bien, on a obtenu certaines informations qui nous manquaient.
cordialement,
chrystel.
Bonjour,
En réponse à votre message, je suis d'accord pour l'adoption d'un enfant si ma situation financière le permet. Cependant, je ne suis pas pour un parrainage .
D'ailleurs, il est différent entre ce qui est adoption, parrainage et aide familiale.
Cordialement
Bonjour,
Je souhaite réagir à vos propos en tant que présidente d'une asso qui s'occupe principalement de parrainages d'enfants au Vietnam. Sachez qu'avec un parrainage de 5€ par mois, nous aidons à la scolarisation d'un enfant. Avec cette somme, nous aurions du mal à financer des voyages !
Pourquoi jeter le discrédit sur des assos qui souvent très discrètement essaient d'aider et qui le font le plus souvent honnêtement ? Votre mauvaise expérience permet-elle de dire que toutes les associations sont malhonnêtes ? C'est le même phénomène avec l'adoption : pour quelques adoptions très douteuses faut-il discréditer la démarche, alors que la majorité des adoptions au Vietnam et ailleurs se font correctement. Pour notre cas, je vous précise que nous n'avons aucun frais généraux (c'est dans nos statuts) et que les voyages sont payés par ceux qui les font, et certains frais de fonctionnement sortent très souvent directement de la poche des admninistrateurs.... Ceci pour vous donner un exemple, mais il y a beaucoup de petites assos qui fonctionnent de la même façon.
Vous avez sûrement eu une mauvaise expérience, mais pourquoi généraliser?
J'espère que vous pourrez agir de votre côté lorsque le moment sera venu, car c'est une grand bonheur de pouvoir le faire même si on récolte parfois autant de critiques que d'encouragements...
Cordialement
Helmat
http://lessampaniersduvietnam.over-blog.org/
Bonjour,
En réponse à votre message, je ne mets pas en cause toutes les associations relatives au parrainage des enfants pauvres du VN. Mais, je sais que mon écrit va réagir certaines d'autres associations comme la vôtre, mais je parle de l'association dans laquelle j'y étais.
Par contre, si vous lisez bien les messages que j'ai postés ci-dessus, je n'ai à aucun moment mis en cause les associations de ce type. J'ai écrit ce que j'ai vu et constaté.
Pour information, je faisais du bénévolat. Je m'occupais tout ce qui était réseau informatique et formais les gens de cette association à exploiter les logiciels de bureautique, entre autres. Il est donc normal que je connais tout ce qui s'est passé dans cette association. Les dons, les finances publiques, les dépenses.
Quant aux aides ou adoption d'enfant, c'est mon avis personnel.
Cordialement.
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Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Hi there,
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!






