Randonnées à la journée dans le parc des Ecrins
by Vignemale
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Je cherche des idées de belles randos à faire à la journée dans le Parc des Ecrins, idéalement au départ de Briançon/Le Monetier/Col du Lautaret. J'ai pensé au Grand Galibier, au Lac d'Arsine par ex.
Mais j'aimerais aussi éviter des itinéraires en aller/retour, je préfère les boucles (c'est peut être un peu trop demander).
C'est pour début septembre.
Dénivelé positif maximum 1800m/jour, 10 heures de marche.
Qui peut me conseiller ?
Merci beaucoup
Il y a la vallée de la Clarée près de Briançon.
Nous nous y sommes rendus en voiture.
Nous n'avons pas fait de sentier car il pleuvait.
C'est très beau.
En juin les sommets étaient enneigés.
Nous nous y sommes rendus en voiture.
Nous n'avons pas fait de sentier car il pleuvait.
C'est très beau.
En juin les sommets étaient enneigés.
bonjour
quelques idées de rando dans le coin: le lac du combeynot en aller et retour ça vaut le coup d’œil.
il y a également depuis le pont de l'Alpes le grand lac en boucle le col du chardonnet superbe vue sur les Ecrins en A/R ou continuer sur le col de la ponsonière et revenir vers l 'Alpes du lauzet .
effectivement le col d'arsine en revenant sur le casset mais il faut deux voitures.
il y a également au col du Granon le Grand Aréa en allant jusqu'au col de buffère lac de l'oules , lac de cristol en passant par le refuge de Buffère.
voilà bonne rando chrystelle
quelques idées de rando dans le coin: le lac du combeynot en aller et retour ça vaut le coup d’œil.
il y a également depuis le pont de l'Alpes le grand lac en boucle le col du chardonnet superbe vue sur les Ecrins en A/R ou continuer sur le col de la ponsonière et revenir vers l 'Alpes du lauzet .
effectivement le col d'arsine en revenant sur le casset mais il faut deux voitures.
il y a également au col du Granon le Grand Aréa en allant jusqu'au col de buffère lac de l'oules , lac de cristol en passant par le refuge de Buffère.
voilà bonne rando chrystelle
Bonjour,
En complément des suggestions précédentes, voici quelques idées de randonnées à la journée dans la vallée de la Vallouise: https://sites.google.com/site/carnetsditinerance/escapades/alpes/ecrins
ou également à partir de La Grave: https://sites.google.com/site/carnetsditinerance/escapades/alpes/oisans-1
En complément des suggestions précédentes, voici quelques idées de randonnées à la journée dans la vallée de la Vallouise: https://sites.google.com/site/carnetsditinerance/escapades/alpes/ecrins
ou également à partir de La Grave: https://sites.google.com/site/carnetsditinerance/escapades/alpes/oisans-1
Salut,
Je te conseille la vallée du Vallgaudemar... tu vas en voiture jusqu'au chalet refuge du Gioberney.. ( c'est goudronné jusqu'au bout!) tu laisses ta voiture sur le parking du chalet refuge et de là tu peux faire le circuit suivant: montée au refuge de Valonpierre puis aller ensuite au refuge de Chabournéou et redescendre sur le Gioberney.. ( entre 6 et 7 heures de marche)ou encore aller au refuge du pigeonnier par les lacs du Lauzon et redescendre par la cabane du Vacivier.. Il y a des tas d'autres possibilités de circuit au départ de la Chapelle en Valgaudemar ou de Villar loubière.. ( refuge des souffles vers le refuge de l'Olan , par le pas de l'Olan etc..
Le Valgaudemar ( une petite vallée "Himalayenne") est mon coin préféré dans les écrins!! http://valgaudemar.free.fr/randonnee_gioberney.htm
Le Valgaudemar ( une petite vallée "Himalayenne") est mon coin préféré dans les écrins!! http://valgaudemar.free.fr/randonnee_gioberney.htm
Depuis Pont de L'alpe (route entre Briancon et Lautaret), tu as en effet le Grand Lac.
Mais pour une boucle de 10h, c'est carrément soft. PAr contre, l'endroit est magnifique si tu aimes les alpages verts, et les pics rocheux, et les lacs.
Donc tu montes au Grand Lac par le petit col escarpé qu'on voit à gauche du premier plateau et qui mène direct au Grand Lac. Tu passes le Grand Lac, et atteints le col Ponsonniere en face qui mène au très beau site du lac des Cerces (superbe endroit de bivouac au passage). Si ca tient dans ton timing, descends-y, ça vaut le coup.
Pour le retour, tu reviens au Ponsonnniere et tu prends l'ancien GR qui par rejoindre les roches de Beraude et ensuite le col du Chardonnet (autre vue derrière).
Cet ancien GR est un peu pierrier parfois, mais tu as une vue sur le Grand Lac et ton trajet aller, avec derrière les pics et glaciers des écrins.
Tu redescends ce col et retombe ensuite aux maisons Pont de l'Alpe.
A tester !
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Namast Web - Après 8 ans d'absence en Asie, retour en famille à partir de 2006 (Thailande, Cambodge, Vietnam, Maroc, Jordanie, Chili, Bali, Inde)
http://www.namast.com/
Bonjour Vignemale.
Pour une belle boucle de 10h à partir du Pont de l'Alpe, tu peux faire la Pointe des Cerces en traversée sud-nord, c'est-à-dire: - montée par le Rif Lanterne au col de l'Aiguillette puis au col du Chardonnet - GR57du col du Chardonnet jusqu'en dessous de la Roche des Béraude - passage du col des Béraudes (on quitte le GR) puis Lac Sorcier - du Lac Sorcier, montée au plus facile par les éboulis de la face sud jusqu'à l'arête sommitale puis sur le fil de l'arête (pas long mais très aérien) jusqu'au sommet de la pointe des Cerces. - redescente par la voie "normale" de la face nord (beaucoup plus facile que la face sud) jusqu'au col des Cerces où on rejoint le GR57. - retour (sur sentier) par le lac des Cerces, le Col de la Ponsonnière et l'Alpe du Lauzet.
C'est un itinéraire de rando un peu engagé (la montée dans les éboulis est raide), où il ne faut pas avoir le vertige sur l'arête sommitale et le dénivelé cumulé fait sans doute un peu plus de 1800m (dans les 2000 je dirais), mais je l'avais fait en 10h30, pause déjeuner comprise, il y a quelques années. Donc cela me parait rentrer tout à fait dans tes critères, Vignemale. En plus, tu fais un sommet à plus de 3000m avec une belle vue sur le massif des Ecrins et les superbes paysages décrits par Namast (tu peux passer par le Grand Lac, ce que je n'avais pas fait car l'orage m'était tombé dessus en redescendant du col de la Ponsonnière).
Bonne rando. P'tit' étoile.
Pour une belle boucle de 10h à partir du Pont de l'Alpe, tu peux faire la Pointe des Cerces en traversée sud-nord, c'est-à-dire: - montée par le Rif Lanterne au col de l'Aiguillette puis au col du Chardonnet - GR57du col du Chardonnet jusqu'en dessous de la Roche des Béraude - passage du col des Béraudes (on quitte le GR) puis Lac Sorcier - du Lac Sorcier, montée au plus facile par les éboulis de la face sud jusqu'à l'arête sommitale puis sur le fil de l'arête (pas long mais très aérien) jusqu'au sommet de la pointe des Cerces. - redescente par la voie "normale" de la face nord (beaucoup plus facile que la face sud) jusqu'au col des Cerces où on rejoint le GR57. - retour (sur sentier) par le lac des Cerces, le Col de la Ponsonnière et l'Alpe du Lauzet.
C'est un itinéraire de rando un peu engagé (la montée dans les éboulis est raide), où il ne faut pas avoir le vertige sur l'arête sommitale et le dénivelé cumulé fait sans doute un peu plus de 1800m (dans les 2000 je dirais), mais je l'avais fait en 10h30, pause déjeuner comprise, il y a quelques années. Donc cela me parait rentrer tout à fait dans tes critères, Vignemale. En plus, tu fais un sommet à plus de 3000m avec une belle vue sur le massif des Ecrins et les superbes paysages décrits par Namast (tu peux passer par le Grand Lac, ce que je n'avais pas fait car l'orage m'était tombé dessus en redescendant du col de la Ponsonnière).
Bonne rando. P'tit' étoile.
Comme ça, il a de quoi faire en sentier only ou hors sentier sur crêtes et pic 😉
Attention au GR57 entre Ponsonniere et Chardonnet. Sur les anciennes cartes, c'est bien marqué GR57, mais sur les nouvelles, ce n'est plus le GR57. Le GR passe maintenant par le bas, un peu au dessus du Grand Lac.
Du coup sur le terrain, au col Ponsonnière, l'ancien GR57 est barré par une croix, et le GRiste est entraîné dans le bas comme sur les cartes récentes (avec en prime une méga remontée au col de Chardonnet). Z'ont dû juger que l'ancien GR57 était un peu trop exposé dans la pieraille...
Je dis ça, parce qu'équipés avec une ancienne carte, on se serait posé bien des questions cet été, si le gars du camping de Névache-Foncouvert ne nous avait pas averti.
Je dis ça, parce qu'équipés avec une ancienne carte, on se serait posé bien des questions cet été, si le gars du camping de Névache-Foncouvert ne nous avait pas averti.
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Namast Web - Après 8 ans d'absence en Asie, retour en famille à partir de 2006 (Thailande, Cambodge, Vietnam, Maroc, Jordanie, Chili, Bali, Inde)
http://www.namast.com/
Puisqu'on en est aux possibilités à partir du Pont de l'Alpe, pourquoi ne pas envisager la via ferrata de l'Aiguillette du Lauzet.
Départ du parking du Pont de l'Alpe, montée à pied en 1 h maxi sur le sentier en direction du col du Chardonnet jusqu'au départ de la via ferrata. Celle-ci est parmi les plus faciles du coin et a l'avantage d'évoluer dans un très beau cadre de montagne, sans être gâchée par une trop grande abondance d'équipements artificiels.
Durée de la via de l'ordre de 3 à 4 heures, avec un débouché au sommet de l'Aiguillette du Lauzet à 2611m. Du sommet, superbe panorama sur la montagne des Agneaux, la Barre des Ecrins, le Pelvoux, etc ...
Retour par le sentier partant du sommet en 1 heure environ jusqu'au point de départ.
Outre l'aspect ludique de la via ferrata, c'est par ailleurs un endroit truffé de bouquetins ! A entreprendre néanmoins avec l'équipement standard pour les via ferrata (baudier, 2 dégaines, casque) qu'on peut louer dans tous les magasins de sport, mais qui ne présente vraiment pas de difficulté ni de passage sur vide, et qui permet de changer un peu de la randonnée classique.
Outre l'aspect ludique de la via ferrata, c'est par ailleurs un endroit truffé de bouquetins ! A entreprendre néanmoins avec l'équipement standard pour les via ferrata (baudier, 2 dégaines, casque) qu'on peut louer dans tous les magasins de sport, mais qui ne présente vraiment pas de difficulté ni de passage sur vide, et qui permet de changer un peu de la randonnée classique.
Super toutes ces idées, merci tout le monde ! Je liste et je me fais les topos au fur et à mesure, je verrai sur place ensuite en fonction de la météo. Sauf le Vagaudemar qui me parait loin, il vaudra mieux y revenir un jour pour explorer ce côté là !
La boucle avec un sommet à 3000 est top ! D'autres propositions dans ce genre ?
Effectivement quand je parlais du GR57, c'est le tracé qu'il y avait à l'époque où j'ai fait cette randonnée et tel qu'il figure sur ma carte, qui est assez ancienne (fin des années 90), et qui passe donc par le haut (entre 2500 et 2600m) entre le col du Chardonnet et le bas de la Roche des Béraudes. L'itinéraire du bas (que j'avais pris au retour à partir du Col de la Ponsonnière) est un sentier figurant en tirets rouges sur ma carte.
Et pour les bouquetins, la montée au col de l'Aiguillette par le Rif Lanterne (donc en contournant l'Aiguillette par l'Est) permet d'en voir facilement. Il est aussi possible de faire un petit détour par le sommet de l'Aiguillette du Lauzet.
P'tit' étoile.
Et pour les bouquetins, la montée au col de l'Aiguillette par le Rif Lanterne (donc en contournant l'Aiguillette par l'Est) permet d'en voir facilement. Il est aussi possible de faire un petit détour par le sommet de l'Aiguillette du Lauzet.
P'tit' étoile.
Sauf le Vagaudemar qui me parait loin, il vaudra mieux y revenir un jour pour explorer ce côté là !
La boucle avec un sommet à 3000 est top ! D'autres propositions dans ce genre ?
Dommage ...c'est pour moi le plus beau coin des écrins! De plus le beau temps est plus probable dans la partie sud des écrins...
Un sommet facile à 3000m : le pic Turbat. Départ Villar Loubière montée au refuge des souffles et continuer direction refuge de l'Olan avec un crochet au pic Turbat ( facile) et retour par le pas de l'Olan puis le refuge de l'Olan et descente sur la Chapelle en Valgaudemar.
Dommage ...c'est pour moi le plus beau coin des écrins! De plus le beau temps est plus probable dans la partie sud des écrins...
Un sommet facile à 3000m : le pic Turbat. Départ Villar Loubière montée au refuge des souffles et continuer direction refuge de l'Olan avec un crochet au pic Turbat ( facile) et retour par le pas de l'Olan puis le refuge de l'Olan et descente sur la Chapelle en Valgaudemar.
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I’d love to know if anyone has done treks in the Rwenzori Mountains and how much it costs on average, what the infrastructure is like, the landscapes, and safety in the area. Thanks so much! I’m really looking forward to your replies.
Hi there,
I’m looking for half-day hikes near Karakol (not Jety-Oguz, since I’ll be heading there separately—max 30 minutes’ drive to the trailhead).
I can find longer treks, but nothing for a short outing!
So, if you’ve got any ideas...
Thanks! :)
I’m looking for half-day hikes near Karakol (not Jety-Oguz, since I’ll be heading there separately—max 30 minutes’ drive to the trailhead).
I can find longer treks, but nothing for a short outing!
So, if you’ve got any ideas...
Thanks! :)
Hi everyone,
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
Hi there,
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.




