Ré-entrée aux États-Unis avec ESTA après 88 jours à Los Angeles
by Cindynguyen
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour ,
Je reviens de États Unis avec mon ESTA qui valable jusqu'à 2018. J'étais à los angeles àvec mes parents 88 jours et je viens de rentrée en France. Je l'intention à partir bientôt à Los angeles . Pourriez vous ici pouvez me renseigner combien de temps je dois attendre pour acheter mon billet et que je dois faire sur le site ESTA pour mettre à jour mon ESTA. Merci de votre réponse.
Cindy.
Hello,
Il n'y a PAS de réponse, sauf celle ci: "un certain temps" !!!
C'est l'officier d'immigration qui te donneras la réponse finale...à l'embarquement.
à +
Si tu montres ton billet Aller/retour et des "preuves" d'attachement en France, ça favorise ton entrée.
Il n'y a PAS de réponse, sauf celle ci: "un certain temps" !!!
C'est l'officier d'immigration qui te donneras la réponse finale...à l'embarquement.
à +
Si tu montres ton billet Aller/retour et des "preuves" d'attachement en France, ça favorise ton entrée.
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Bonjour,
Merci de votre répond , je crois que àvec esta on peut rester moins de 6 mois par an. Ça veut dire 2 fois rentrer àvec chaque fois moins de 3 mois. Merci de votre réponse et je vais réfléchir .
Cindy
Attention tout de même, vs avez déjà presque epuisé votre capital de jours...
Il faudra vs mefier si vs comptez rester assez longtmps aux USA.
Tant que l'Esta est valide ( 2 ans ) un nouveau voyage de 90 jours consécutifs maximum est possible.
Tant que l'Esta est valide ( 2 ans ) un nouveau voyage de 90 jours consécutifs maximum est possible.
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Non. Il n'y a pas de regle ecrite sur une durée de sejour de 6 moi /an.
Un ESTA donne uniquement droit à un sejour de 90 jours. Apres, c'est l'officier d'immigration qui va apprecier si il va donner droit à un nouveau sejour.
Il y a sur ce forum et ailleurs des temoignages de refus d'entrée pour un nouveau sejour, des que l'officier estime que ce n'est plus pour des motifs touristiques.
Un ESTA donne uniquement droit à un sejour de 90 jours. Apres, c'est l'officier d'immigration qui va apprecier si il va donner droit à un nouveau sejour.
Il y a sur ce forum et ailleurs des temoignages de refus d'entrée pour un nouveau sejour, des que l'officier estime que ce n'est plus pour des motifs touristiques.
Bonjour,
Merci de votre répond , je crois que àvec esta on peut rester moins de 6 mois par an.
Non rien de tel dans le VWP Comme déjà évoqué tu peux y venir autant que tu le veux mais après rentrer aux USA c'est autre chose Le risque que tu as n'est surement pas un refus, ou alors tu as des casseroles 🙂 mais te voir octroyer une durée limité et pas les 90j donné "normalement"
Non rien de tel dans le VWP Comme déjà évoqué tu peux y venir autant que tu le veux mais après rentrer aux USA c'est autre chose Le risque que tu as n'est surement pas un refus, ou alors tu as des casseroles 🙂 mais te voir octroyer une durée limité et pas les 90j donné "normalement"
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Je l'intention à partir bientôt à Los angeles.
Dans quel cadre ? 😮
Dans quel cadre ? 😮
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Non. Il n'y a pas de regle ecrite sur une durée de sejour de 6 moi /an.
Un ESTA donne uniquement droit à un sejour de 90 jours. Apres, c'est l'officier d'immigration qui va apprecier si il va donner droit à un nouveau sejour.
Pas de règle écrite certes. Cela dit, lorsqu'on reste plus de 6 mois, il faut remplir une déclaration d'impôt normalement lorsqu'on est sous visa. D'ici à ce qu'ils vous accordent plus de 6 mois par an ... j'en doute fort !
Un ESTA donne uniquement droit à un sejour de 90 jours. Apres, c'est l'officier d'immigration qui va apprecier si il va donner droit à un nouveau sejour.
Pas de règle écrite certes. Cela dit, lorsqu'on reste plus de 6 mois, il faut remplir une déclaration d'impôt normalement lorsqu'on est sous visa. D'ici à ce qu'ils vous accordent plus de 6 mois par an ... j'en doute fort !
Bonjour a tous,
Si cela peut aider je vient de passer 3 voyages de 3 mois consécutifs en Esta, mon vécu:
Premier voyage: entree aux usa facile par Los Angeles, but du voyage visite des parcs nationaux
Deuxième voyage une semaine après le retour en france: arrivée a Los angeles, question du douaniers pourquoi encore un voyage et combien de temps? réponse: 2mois pour faire un road trip califrnie du nord. Pas d'insistance tampon puis passage a un deuxième contrôle avec une personne normalement plus méticuleuse qui regarde plus les visas precedents, bonne pioche je tombe dans la ligne ou la douanière regarde seulement votre tete sur le passeport et vous laisse passer tandis que chuck norris est a la ligne d'a coté et pose 200 questions par entrant. Billet de retour 3 mois plus tard.
Troisième voyage 10 jours après le retour: Escale a San francisco donc entree sur le territoire par Sanfrancisco, Douanes beaucoup plus facile qu'a LA, (un seul contrôle au lieu de deux et très peu de questions). J'avais quand meme prévu le coup et pris un billet d'avion deux semaines plus tard au cas ou le douanier me pose des questions. Questions du douaniers: Etes vous deja venu aux USA? Oui. Vous etes ici pour combien de temps? 2 semaines. Dans quel but? Mariage de mes meilleurs amis qui habitent ici. Merci "BIM" tampon! Retour 3 mois plus tard.
Je ne m'inquiète pas trop pour toi si tu veux refaire un voyage aux USA.
Est ce que quelqu'un a une experience similaire a la mienne? je suis en demande de visa J1 et j'ai peur que lors de mon RDV a l'ambassade on me bloque a cause de ces 3 voyages precedents...
Salut Maxime,
Tu as tout de même eu bien de la chance !
Sans être parano, la question était légitime. Je ne connais pas beaucoup de personnes qui ont pu enchaîner 3 voyages de 3 mois aux Etats-Unis avec dix à quinze jours d'intervalle entre les deux.
Et tu as vraiment eu du pot lors de ta deuxième entrée qu'on ne te pose pas plus de questions. Exactement pareil pour ta troisième visite où tu n'as même pas eu de questions plus poussées alors que l'agent avait bien du voir que tu étais aux US plus de 6 mois sur les 7 derniers mois.
Perso, je me demande combien de temps je dois attendre avant de rentrer une autre fois après un séjour de 3 mois :
https://voyageforum.com/discussion/retourner-seul-etats-unis-regulierement-d7550715/
Tu as tout de même eu bien de la chance !
Sans être parano, la question était légitime. Je ne connais pas beaucoup de personnes qui ont pu enchaîner 3 voyages de 3 mois aux Etats-Unis avec dix à quinze jours d'intervalle entre les deux.
Et tu as vraiment eu du pot lors de ta deuxième entrée qu'on ne te pose pas plus de questions. Exactement pareil pour ta troisième visite où tu n'as même pas eu de questions plus poussées alors que l'agent avait bien du voir que tu étais aux US plus de 6 mois sur les 7 derniers mois.
Perso, je me demande combien de temps je dois attendre avant de rentrer une autre fois après un séjour de 3 mois :
https://voyageforum.com/discussion/retourner-seul-etats-unis-regulierement-d7550715/
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My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?