Bonjour à tous,
Je suis nouveau sur le Forum, j'y découvre une très bonne ambiance, après avoir lu quelques discussions.
Je vous expose mes recherches, peut-être pourrez vous m'aider dans ma difficile mission...
Je cherche une destination où emmener, ma fiancée juste après notre mariage, plutôt un pays frontalier de la France, ou alors à porté d'un budget d'étudiant/jeune pro. Nous aurons entre 7 et 10 jours, début juillet. Nous aimerions à la fois mêler détente, marche en montagne et visite de jolies coins. Le tout si possible dans une ambiance pas trop surpeuplée.
J'ai pensé à la région des grands lac en Italie, mais je ne connais pas du tout. Sinon j'ai aussi pensé au Nord de l'Espagne, en Aragon.
Breff je suis encore un peu indécis. Pour le moment je me concentre sur les grands lacs. Celà vous semble t'il une région appropriée ? Est-il possible avec une voiture de réussir à jongler entre Hotels, ou chambre d'hôte pas trop chers, campings, montagne, lacs et villages autour des lacs ?
Avez vous des itinéraires ou des lieux particuliers à me conseiller ? de bonnes adresses ?
J'ai déjà trouvé quelques pistes sur d'anciennes discussions ouvertes sur le forum, je continue ma recherche en parallèle.
Les grands lacs me paraissent un très bon choix pour combiner la montagne, la détente et les visites... un moins bon choix pour le budget, mais ça dépend ce que tu entends par "pas cher". De mon expérience en été en camping à proximité immédiate des lacs, la nuit coutait dans les 35 euros (mes références datent déjà d'il y a une paire d'années... et ça a pas dû baisser). Et ce sont des campings familiaux plutôt bondés, pas forcément très agréables. Mon lac préféré pour les visites serait celui de Como, où en visant la pointe centrale du lac, les 3 rives sont intéressantes que ce soit Bellagio, Varenna ou Menaggio - Tremezzo : visite des villages et d'une ou plusieurs villas : villa Carlotta, villa Monastero etc. Nous avions fait la ballade montant au Monte San Primo au sud de Bellagio, avec vue sur la corne du lac. Aussi vous ne pouvez pas rater le lac majeur et ses îles Borromées. Pour tous ces endroits assez touristiques, préférez visiter tôt le matin pour avoir le moins de monde possible. Il existe des plages publiques à divers endroits des lacs. Comme vous avez 10 jours, vous pouvez choisir au moins 3 lacs sans forcer, il peut y avoir le lac de Garde qui est plus loin, sinon voir quelques autres lacs plus petits et proches. J'ai toujours lu des commentaires enchantés de celui d'Orta, que je ne connais pas. J'ai bien aimé celui d'Iseo, pour la tranquillité, et la grande ballade d'une journée sur le Monte Isola, la plus grande île lacustre habitée d'Europe, parait-il! Un endroit hors du temps, cadre champêtre, très peu de véhicules. Autour du lac on peut trouver à se loger moins cher qu'au bord des "grands" grands lacs.
Les grands lacs , ça serait plus romantique mais beaucoup plus cher que l'Aragon et aussi beaucoup plus fréquenté mais le gros atout des grands lacs pour moi c'est la baignade qui manque cruellement en Aragon.
Question budget par contre , il n'y a pas photo c'est l'Aragon le moins cher et en cherchant un peu du côté de la sierra de Guara , il y aurait de belles possibilités pour un voyage de noce un peu sportif , la montagne et des cours d'eau et des lieux un peu à l'écart du monde .....
Oui, l'Aragon est un excellent choix. Les lacs italiens, en été, sont très fréquentés et les prix à la hauteur, dans un pays, l'Italie où les hôtels sont généralement chers.
Je connais les deux destinations, les deux régions.
En Septembre dernier, suite à un problème tendineux, j'ai dû arrêter la marche sur le chemin de compostelle Catalan et, après avoir loué une auto à Zaragoza, je suis monté vers le parc d'Ordesa, parc national espagnol bien connu au nord de Huesca. C'est superbe, on y mange bien et les randonnées sont belles et nombreuses.
en dehors de l'aspect prix , ce sont 2 choses complètement différentes : l'aragon c'est le grand sud ( du moins par rapport à la france ) , et comme en plus c'est loin de la mer il risque de faire très chaud jusqu'à 1000 m d'altitude ; les grands lacs , ce sont les alpes à la lattitude de la bourgogne
concernant l'affluence , il faut arrêter avec l'image d'une italie surchargée de touristes car , comme on nous le répète à longueur d'année , c'est la france qui reçoit le plus de touristes , l'espagne étant seconde
Effectivement , je suis d'accord avec Giorgio avec l'idée d'une Italie bondée de touristes et surtout les grands lacs qui ne sont pas la première destination italienne en matière de fréquentation touristique .Je ne connais pas l'Aragon donc je ne ferai aucune comparaison avec la région des grands lacs Italiens .Le seul lac que je connaisse bien est celui de Côme ( j'y suis allé une dizaine fois et c'est mon lac préféré )et effectivement les prix sont certainement plus élevés qu'en Espagne mais il y a moyen de trouver des formules de logement à des prix raisonnables et au final la différence de prix ne doit pas être énorme . Comme , il s'agit d'un voyage romantique en amoureux , je vous conseillerai de laisser de côté un peu l'aspect financier et de finalement d'aller où vos coups de cœur vous poussent .
Merci à tous pour vos conseils avisés,
J'ai regardé un peu pour la question logement autour des lacs, pas facile d'y voir clair.. beaucoup d'hotels, une chose est sûr on ne pourra pas se permettre de faire tout le voyage de noce en hôtels. Je vois donc 2 solutions, soit on loue un appartement ou un mobilhome dans un camping pour 1 semaine ce qui revient à moins cher qu'une chambre d'hotel, et on fait des économies sur les repas en plus de cela, mais ça à le désavantage de nous attacher à un lieu fixe pour toute la durée du voyage..
soit on jongle entre hôtel, camping tente et B&B, ce qui nous permettrai d'être mobiles et d'équilibrer les budgets, mais demande un peu plus d'organisation.
Autre problème que je rencontre, j'aimerai réussir à faire une randonnée de 2 ou 3 jours en autonomie, avec 1 ou 2 nuits dans des refuges, vous connaissez des refuges dans la région ?
Concernant l'Aragon je vais approfondir mes recherches, en regardant plus précisément le parc naturel au nord de Huesca
Bonsoir
Je connais ces 2 régions, étant native de la frontière espagnole et ayant visité les lacs italiens il y a 2 ans. Les 2 n'ont rien à voir : l'une est de type méditerranéen, sauvage, où le tourisme n'est pas accablant, donc calme début juillet. L'autre est belle, très courue, très chère (mais je n'y étais pas en camping), les visites sont payantes mais tellement belles (Carlota, iles Borromées) c'est vrai. Franchement l'Aragon sera moins cher si le critère du budget est primordial. La sierra de Guarra est connue pour le canyoning. Je te recommande le village d'Alquezar, où le rio Vero se remonte sans souci même seul ; il y a des peintures rupestres à voir pas loin. Le site des Mallos de Riglo et le désert des Bardenas très original. A toi de choisir...
Cordialement
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I’ll be in Barcelona at the end of October.
I can choose to be there over the weekend or during the week. Probably 4 nights.
Is there a big difference in terms of crowds in the city and in the museums?
Little or no difference would simplify my itinerary on the way.
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I’ll be in Rome from April 1st to 13th, 2026—it’s coming up fast!
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Day 2: Polignano a Mare – Monopoli
Day 3: Ostuni – Brindisi
Day 4: Lecce
Day 5 & 6: Exploring the coast from Otranto to Santa Maria di Leuca
Day 7 & 8: Gallipoli area
Day 9 & 10: Matera
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We’re heading to Rome from 21/09, arriving in the early afternoon, and returning on 28/09, leaving in the morning. We’ve already booked our flight tickets and our accommodation in the city center: Via Ezio.
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Largo di Torre Argentina: a sacred spot for cats.
Tuesday 22:
The Vatican: Vatican Museums and Sistine Chapel in the morning. Afternoon: St. Peter’s Basilica, the dome, and if possible, the necropolis.
Wednesday 23:
Morning: Colosseum, Roman Forum, and Palatine Hill. Afternoon: Trastevere neighborhood and the Monumento a Garibaldi.
Thursday 24:
Piazza Navona, Church of St. Louis of the French, the Pantheon, Campo de’ Fiori, Piazza Venezia, Piazza Santa Maria Maggiore, Trevi Fountain.
Friday 25:
Villa Borghese, Piazza del Popolo, Spanish Steps, Quirinale, Piazza della Repubblica, and Santa Maria degli Angeli.
Saturday 26:
Aventine and Testaccio neighborhoods, the Capuchin Crypt.
Sunday 27:
Ostia.
Monday 28:
Departure.
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Summer 2027 is going to be Norwegian for us!
We’re heading to the Lofoten Islands first, then Senja, near Tromsø, and finally the North Cape.
We’ll likely start from northern Finland (flight tickets and car rentals are more affordable there).
I’d like to book accommodations early to have more options.
Good value-for-money places go fast in these pricey Nordic destinations...
But where should we book?
We’re planning to stay around ten nights in the Lofoten Islands.
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One place in the central part and explore from there?
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Or one in the south, one in the center, and one in the north (3-4-3 nights)?
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Best regards,
I’d love to get your thoughts on the following itinerary (late May). I like to take my time in ruins and museums, and beaches don’t interest me. I’ll be staying in hostels and using public transport. Do you see any major omissions or things that aren’t worth it?
Thanks!
Day 1: Arrival in CATANIA
Day 2: Catania – visit (fish market, cathedral, Biscarri Palace, etc.)
Day 3: Mount Etna (day trip)
Day 4: Morning trip to TAORMINA, visit the town
Day 5: Alcantara Gorge (day trip) + more time in Taormina
Day 6: Trip to SYRACUSE, visit Ortigia
Day 7: Ortigia
Day 8: NOTO (day trip) (or another Baroque town?)
Day 9: Syracuse Archaeological Park + more time in Ortigia (or leave for Enna?)
Day 10: Transport via Enna? TO BE RESOLVED (long, 2 or 3 changes, limited accommodation in Enna...)
Day 11: AGRIGENTO: town and Scala dei Turchi (optional)
Day 12: Valley of the Temples + archaeological museum
Day 13: Departure for TRAPANI (4h), afternoon: town (+ salt flats?)
Day 14: Segesta (day trip) + town/Erice
Day 15: Monte Cofano Nature Reserve (hike + summit) (day trip)
Day 16: Zingaro Nature Park (coastal route out, ridge route back) (day trip)
Day 17: Departure for the AEGADIAN ISLANDS: Levanzo and Favignana (bike), overnight if possible
Day 18: Egadi Islands
Day 19: Departure for PALERMO + first visits
Day 20: The city
Day 21: The city (Monreale?)
Day 22: Options:
- Capo Gallo hike (3.5h round trip) (via Mondello)
- Cefalù (45 min by train)
Day 23: Return flight
Hello,
We’re heading to Bavaria from May 13 to 23, with a side trip to Austria.
Here’s our itinerary:
Day 1: Brussels-Munich
Day 2: Munich
Day 3: Munich and departure for Salzburg
We’ll be staying three nights in Salzburg.
Then we’ll head to Garmisch-Partenkirchen, where we’ll stay for five nights.
Visiting Munich and Salzburg isn’t too tricky.
Once in Garmisch, we’re planning a day in Innsbruck, a day for Neuschwanstein Castle, and the rest is still up in the air.
What’s really got me stumped is that we’d love to see Königssee Lake—everyone says it’s a must-see.
We’d also like to visit the Eagle’s Nest (Kehlsteinhaus), where the landscapes are supposedly stunning.
This would either be a round trip while we’re in Salzburg or on the way between Salzburg and Garmisch, but I’m guessing it’s impossible to do the drive from Salzburg to Garmisch, the Eagle’s Nest, *and* Königssee Lake all in one day.
Plus, the Alpine route between Salzburg and Garmisch seems prettier than the highway.
But honestly, I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with the planning.
We should’ve added a stop between Salzburg and Garmisch, but the hotels are already booked.
Thanks for any advice on the itinerary and visits!
Another question: How far in advance should we book Neuschwanstein, Königssee, and the Eagle’s Nest in May?
Thanks so much in advance for your tips and ideas!
hi
I’m wondering if anyone can give me some info on how to get from Mallorca to Menorca.
Since flights are cheaper to Mallorca, I’d like to go that way.
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I’m guessing I’m not the only one wanting to visit both countries. Are there any great tips to drastically reduce the cost of renting a car?
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Hi there,
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Hi everyone,
I’m sharing my draft itinerary with you because I just booked our flight tickets, and I feel like it’s quite late in the season. So, I’d like to be sure about my stops before reserving the hotels. I’ll be traveling alone with my two adult children. We want to prioritize outdoor walks, avoid too many indoor visits (both for budget and preference), and not spend too much time on the road.
D1: Arrival at 9 AM in Malaga, day in Malaga and overnight stay
D2: Head straight to Nerja (1-hour drive) and spend the night there
D3: Head straight to Granada (1.5-hour drive), spend the day and night there
D4: Granada. Visit the Alhambra (Nasrid Palaces tour at 5 PM) and spend the night
D5: Head to Ronda (2.5-hour drive) and spend the night
D6: White Villages and overnight in Ronda
D7: Head straight to the Costa del Sol (e.g., Estepona), spend the day and night there
D8: Return to Malaga to catch our flight
There you go! This itinerary takes into account that we’d like to do a circuit starting from Seville in a few years. That said, it’d be a shame to miss something doable from Malaga.
Questions:
Since the Alhambra visit is only at 5 PM, and we’d already have the day to explore Granada, would arriving the day before be a mistake? Or should we skip this day and dedicate it elsewhere (Costa del Sol? Head toward Tabernas?)? The old town appeals to me, but maybe the Sacromonte neighborhood isn’t essential...
Same question for Ronda: should we dedicate a full day to it, or combine Ronda and the White Villages in one day?
Note that we love wandering around villages outside, so that might answer my question! :)
Final question: Is it better to rent the car at Malaga Airport or in the city? If we rent at the airport, we’d need a hotel with parking, which doesn’t seem easy. Or stay outside the city and park for free near the center if possible? I’ve read comments about taking a taxi to Malaga and then picking up the rental car at the airport the next morning. The taxi would really need to be affordable...
Thanks so much for your feedback and suggestions for visits during this little circuit.
Have a great day, everyone!
Christine
Hello,
we’re a couple planning a 2-week road trip this August, with a must-stop (about 3 days on Skye). Any route suggestions? Hotel recommendations? Photo spots?