Réservation d'une chambre en Amérique du Nord: différence entre deux lits "double" et deux lits "queen"?
by Ginestet
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
BONJOUR
NOUS SOMMES 3 ADULTES .
QUELLE OPTION DOIS JE PRENDRE POUR RESERVER UNE CHAMBRE
MERCI
michel
Voici qui peut vous être utile :Taille des matelas
Il existe en Amérique, 4 tailles standards de lits qui sont:
King: 78X80 po / 198 x 203 cm Il s'agit de la taille de lit la plus grande.
Queen: 60X80 po / 152 x 203 cm Taille de matelas le plus populaire
Double: 54x75 po / 137 x 190 cm Plutôt utilisé pour les jeunes ménages
1 place: 39X75 po / 99 x 190 cm
King: 78X80 po / 198 x 203 cm Il s'agit de la taille de lit la plus grande.
Queen: 60X80 po / 152 x 203 cm Taille de matelas le plus populaire
Double: 54x75 po / 137 x 190 cm Plutôt utilisé pour les jeunes ménages
1 place: 39X75 po / 99 x 190 cm
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Hi
Deux lits queen, ce sera le plus confortable mais tous les hôtels ne le propose pas
Près de 100 nuits d'hôtel aux USA à mon actif
Bern
Deux lits queen, ce sera le plus confortable mais tous les hôtels ne le propose pas
Près de 100 nuits d'hôtel aux USA à mon actif
Bern
USA 2018 - Arizona, chez les indiens... https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=9061068;#9061068
USA 2014 – Là où vous n'aviez pas pensé aller https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6769327;#6769327
USA 2012 "Au long du Rio Grande" https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5290732;#5290732
merci à vous tous et ta reponse me comble avec la dimension des lits
.nickel
michel
michel
merci pour l humour. ça fait du bien de sourire de bon matin.
bonne journée à AIX
Michel de la ciotat
michel
J'ai simplement écrit dans Google " matelas dimensions" et j'ai eu la réponse.
Bon voyage
Bon voyage
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
merci
as tu une idée comment peut on savoir dans les propositions tarifaires s' il y a un lit divan.
comment dit on lit divan en anglais????
michel
Salut
"Sofa bed"
"Sofa bed"
Je ne crois pas que les divant lits soient utilisée ( existent ) dans les hotels ou motels aux États-Unis. Ça se dirait, "hide a bed".
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Entre la théorie et la réalité, il y a parfois un écart.
La taille Queen est dans les faits un lit double dont la largeur varie autour de 140 cms... avec plus ou moins 10/20 cms...
Après plus de 20 séjours de 3 semaines en moyenne sur tout le continent US (2 adultes et 1 grand ado), tout dépend des hotels...
Un exemple pour la même résa (2 lits queen); on se fait refiler une chambre avec 2 lits de 120 environ, et dans un autre hotel de la même chaine, une chambre avec 2 lits de 160...
Si notre grand ado est toujours content, nous pas...
C'est un devoir de bousculer la pensée unique...
J'ai voyagé cet été à 3, ( avec mon epouse et ma belle soeur, eh oui, j'aurais revé autre chose, mais bon bref) et certains hotels me proposaient pour 3 personnes un grand lit, plus un sofa bed.
A mon avis c'est a eviter car si on deplie le sofa dans la chambre, il n'y a plus guere de place pour circuler. (ca depend aussi si la belle soeur est queen ou king size )
A mon avis c'est a eviter car si on deplie le sofa dans la chambre, il n'y a plus guere de place pour circuler. (ca depend aussi si la belle soeur est queen ou king size )
Bonjour,
Il me semble avoir vu , notamment à Vegas, des lits assez larges pour 3 adultes....
Mais bon, tout dépend -comme tu le dis- de la belle-soeur....
Bon, OK, je sors !
Bon, OK, je sors !
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
De mon point de vue, en ce qui concerne les lits de belles mères c'est obligatoirement (madatory in english) dans la chambre à côté !!
hihi
hihi
Et si on partait demain ? pourquoi demain ? tout de suite, non !!
OK
J'aime bien ma belle soeur mais faut pas déconner non plus.
pas de sofa bed ni de lit trois places car je pense que mon épouse n'apprécierait pas trop.
on va donc opter pour deux grands lits...............avec toute la promiscuité que cela implique..................je ronfle comme une locomotive
HIHI
amitiés et merci à touti pour vos reponses
si quelqu'un lit cette reponse.......question subsidiaire............nous faisons VEGAS-BRYCE - PAGE - MONUMENT VALLEY - grand canyon dans l'ordre.............je n'arrive pâs à saisir dans quelle ville ou lieu j'ai une heure en plus ou en moins de décalage horaire......................................HELP ME...........THANKS
MIKE
michel
C'est la frontiere de l'etat qui va vs faire changer de fuseau.
CALIFORNIE et NEVADA ont la meme heure.
Ca va changer quand vs allez entrer dans l'UTAH , il faut rajouter une heure.
Pour l'ARIZONA c'est plus compliqué car une grosse partie, en fait tout sauf la reserve NAVAJO, n'applique pas l'heure d'ete.
Donc en hiver ils ont l'heure de l'UTAH, et en ete l'heure de la Californie.
Donc, si je ne plante pas, vs allez devoir mettre une heure de plus à votre montre apres Las Vegas sur la route de Bryce vers St GEORGES, et enlever cette heure juste avant page si vs prenez la 89.
merci
si j'ai bien compris il n'y a que BRYCE qui est concerne par le changement d'heure................
page monument valley grand canyon et phoenix pour le depart sont sur le meme fuseau donc la meme heure.........non???
michel
Bonjour/soir,
en fait tout sauf la reserve NAVAJO, n'applique pas l'heure d'ete
En fait, c'est même plus compliqué que ça car la réserve Hopi, intégrée dans la réserve Navajo, ne l'applique pas. MDR. 😉😎😎😎
en fait tout sauf la reserve NAVAJO, n'applique pas l'heure d'ete
En fait, c'est même plus compliqué que ça car la réserve Hopi, intégrée dans la réserve Navajo, ne l'applique pas. MDR. 😉😎😎😎
BONJOU
je ne rentre pas, je pense, dans cette reserve
- etes vous d accord avec ITAT pour ses conseils sur le changement d'heure concernant mon itineraire.
c'est important pour les arrivées dans les hotels
a tout hasard avez vous la reponse a la dicussion que j ai ouverte aujourdhui pour savoir comment alimenter un, tom tom dans une voiture US. on t il des allumes cigares ou prises identiques aux notres
merci
Michel
michel
Oui nous avons la possibilité de charger les batteries de GPS sur les allume cigare. Pour ce qui est des heures d arrivée dans les hotels vous pouvez donner n importe quelle heure donc si vous prevoyez arriver vers 18h, vous n avez qu a dire 22h.
Si vos réservations sont garanties par carte de crédit ils sont obligés de les garder toute la nuit
- etes vous d accord avec ITAT pour ses conseils sur le changement d'heure concernant mon itineraire.
mais j'ai rien dit moi!!! 😊
mais j'ai rien dit moi!!! 😊
Je sais bien que vous n'avez rien dit🤪................de certain. Merci
Ca me rassurerait une confirmation voila tout😏............mais je suis certain que vous l'avez saisi😛
A+
michel
Je crois qu'il y a méprise 😏
J'ai juste parlé des sofa beds dans cette discussion, jamais des changements d'heures 😛
Pour les changements d'heures, je crois que j'avais compris en 2009 comment ça fonctionnait cette histoire de réserve indienne ou pas, notamment pour la région Page/Monument Valley, mais depuis mon voyage j'ai tout oublié 😛 donc je ne veux pas dire de bêtises et je m'abstiens de donner mon avis
Pour les changements d'heures, je crois que j'avais compris en 2009 comment ça fonctionnait cette histoire de réserve indienne ou pas, notamment pour la région Page/Monument Valley, mais depuis mon voyage j'ai tout oublié 😛 donc je ne veux pas dire de bêtises et je m'abstiens de donner mon avis
Bonjour,
un bon dessin valant mieux qu'un long discours 😉:
http://www.arizona-dream.com/Usa/informations_usa/decalage_horaire_usa.php
un bon dessin valant mieux qu'un long discours 😉:
http://www.arizona-dream.com/Usa/informations_usa/decalage_horaire_usa.php
et pan....................un petit coup de google et la solution arrive.............génial
michel
désolé...en fin de journée j'ai la carafe qui boue.......ce voyage me prends un peu la tete.🤪..........et en plus les deux autres se reposent entierement sur moi.😕
michel
Salut,
Tu sors....?
En arrivant à ton post je pensais trouver une autre de ces éloquentes statistiques du genre:
"J'en suis à mon Xième séjour en Amérique et à ma cent quarante troisième nuitée en hôtels en lit King!"
Tu as déjà dormi dans un tel bateau?
Allez bon samedi où que tu sois.😎
Tu sors....?
En arrivant à ton post je pensais trouver une autre de ces éloquentes statistiques du genre:
"J'en suis à mon Xième séjour en Amérique et à ma cent quarante troisième nuitée en hôtels en lit King!"
Tu as déjà dormi dans un tel bateau?
Allez bon samedi où que tu sois.😎
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I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.







