Je suis français et rentré en argentine sans tampon d'entrée sur mon passeport (Voyage un peu roots long terme en am sud)...Mon voyage se termine à buenos aires...Retour direct de Ezeiza à Paris...Que se passera-t-il à la douane à l'aéroport quand je présenterai mon passeport et qu'il verront qu'officiellement je ne suis pas rentré en argentine? Amende, rétention, détention, expulsion vers la France? Me laissent-ils passer normalement comme s'il s'agissait d'une expulsion? Merci pour votre réponse et vos précisions
Retour en France depuis l'Argentine sans tampon d'entrée
by Ericooo
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Je suis français et rentré en argentine sans tampon d'entrée sur mon passeport (Voyage un peu roots long terme en am sud)...Mon voyage se termine à buenos aires...Retour direct de Ezeiza à Paris...Que se passera-t-il à la douane à l'aéroport quand je présenterai mon passeport et qu'il verront qu'officiellement je ne suis pas rentré en argentine? Amende, rétention, détention, expulsion vers la France? Me laissent-ils passer normalement comme s'il s'agissait d'une expulsion? Merci pour votre réponse et vos précisions
Je suis français et rentré en argentine sans tampon d'entrée sur mon passeport (Voyage un peu roots long terme en am sud)...Mon voyage se termine à buenos aires...Retour direct de Ezeiza à Paris...Que se passera-t-il à la douane à l'aéroport quand je présenterai mon passeport et qu'il verront qu'officiellement je ne suis pas rentré en argentine? Amende, rétention, détention, expulsion vers la France? Me laissent-ils passer normalement comme s'il s'agissait d'une expulsion? Merci pour votre réponse et vos précisions
Hum... prévois d'arriver bien à l'avance pour ton passage en douane et la vérification des passeport et arrive avec ton plus beau look, ton plus grand sourire et une explication qui tienne la route pour le manque de timbre à l'entrée. J'espère que tu as gardé le billet du bus montrant ta date d'entrée ou que tu as un autre timbre dans ton passeport prouvant que tu n'es pas resté + de 3 mois dans le pays. Cela devrait t'aider.
Il m'est arrivé un peu le même genre de mésaventure entre le Venezuela et la Colombie. Naivement, j'ai pensé que le bus s'arrêterait automatiquement à la douane, mais ce ne fut pas le cas. Nous n'étions que 2 touristes dans le bus et le temps qu'on s'en rende compte, il était trop tard, nous étions entrés en Colombie sans tampon 🤪
A la sortie, j'ai réussi à convaincre les douaniers de ma bonne foi. Je leur ai présenté le ticket du bus prouvant que je n'étais sur le territoire que depuis 1 mois et que ça n'avait pas du tout été volontaire de ma part. Par chance, ils m'ont crue. Je n'étais probablement pas la 1ère à qui ça arrivait.
Ils ont été cools. Après qq minutes d'explications, ils m'ont proposés d'aller me présenter au bureau vénézuélien (c'était une autre douane que celle par laquelle j'étais entrée et où les bus s'arrêtaient en effet systématiquement pour nous faire passer la douane à pieds). Donc le plan fut d'aller au bureau vénézuélien, faire comme si je sortais du Venez pour avoir le timbre de sortie. Me présenter ensuite au bureau colombien pour timbrer l'entrée, attendre un peu et repasser pour timbrer la sortie de Colombie et la nouvelle entrée au Venezuela.
Ta situation est quelque peu différente, mais si tu es à l'aéroport avec un billet de retour, je ne les vois pas te garder là. Pour quoi faire ?
Prévois juste d'avoir du temps devant toi, ça sera plus prudent.
Suerte ! et viens nous redire 🙂
Il m'est arrivé un peu le même genre de mésaventure entre le Venezuela et la Colombie. Naivement, j'ai pensé que le bus s'arrêterait automatiquement à la douane, mais ce ne fut pas le cas. Nous n'étions que 2 touristes dans le bus et le temps qu'on s'en rende compte, il était trop tard, nous étions entrés en Colombie sans tampon 🤪
A la sortie, j'ai réussi à convaincre les douaniers de ma bonne foi. Je leur ai présenté le ticket du bus prouvant que je n'étais sur le territoire que depuis 1 mois et que ça n'avait pas du tout été volontaire de ma part. Par chance, ils m'ont crue. Je n'étais probablement pas la 1ère à qui ça arrivait.
Ils ont été cools. Après qq minutes d'explications, ils m'ont proposés d'aller me présenter au bureau vénézuélien (c'était une autre douane que celle par laquelle j'étais entrée et où les bus s'arrêtaient en effet systématiquement pour nous faire passer la douane à pieds). Donc le plan fut d'aller au bureau vénézuélien, faire comme si je sortais du Venez pour avoir le timbre de sortie. Me présenter ensuite au bureau colombien pour timbrer l'entrée, attendre un peu et repasser pour timbrer la sortie de Colombie et la nouvelle entrée au Venezuela.
Ta situation est quelque peu différente, mais si tu es à l'aéroport avec un billet de retour, je ne les vois pas te garder là. Pour quoi faire ?
Prévois juste d'avoir du temps devant toi, ça sera plus prudent.
Suerte ! et viens nous redire 🙂
Faby
Besoin de conseils s.v.p
Un de mes amis c'est aperçu qu'il lui manquait un tampon sur son passeport.En arrivanr à Amsterdam les douanier l'on gardé et cellule.Ca fait plus de 15 jrs qu'il est gardé à la douane.
Combien coûte un tampon manquant et peut-on retenir quelqu'un si longtemps.C'est vrais qu'il n'a plus d'agent sur lui.
Peut-il reprendre l'avion Amsterdam Italie sans avoir besoin de payer ce tampon car l'italie est son pays natal.
Merci à l'avance de me répondre se sera gentil
madeleine lapointe
Il arrivait de quel pays ?
Si tu lis au complet le sujet, la réponse y est à mon avis , le tampon ne s'achète pas , c'est simplement que sans tampon sur le passeport donne l'apparence d'une entrée illégale au pays .
Si tu lis au complet le sujet, la réponse y est à mon avis , le tampon ne s'achète pas , c'est simplement que sans tampon sur le passeport donne l'apparence d'une entrée illégale au pays .
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Merci Stratele.
Mon ami partais de Palerme(Italie) et à Amsterdams il c'est aperçu du manque qu'un tampon.
On ne paies pas pour un tampon pourquoi, tu peux m'espliquer s.v.p
madeleine lapointe
Merci Stratele.
Mon ami partais de Palerme(Italie) et à Amsterdams il c'est aperçu du manque qu'un tampon.
On ne paies pas pour un tampon pourquoi, tu peux m'espliquer s.v.p
Est ce qu'on parle du tampon qu'appose les agents d'immigrations à ton entrés au pays ?
Est ce qu'on parle du tampon qu'appose les agents d'immigrations à ton entrés au pays ?
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Oui Startèle, pourquoi il y a d'autre genre de tampons sur un passeport'Merci
madeleine lapointe
Oui Startèle, pourquoi il y a d'autre genre de tampons sur un passeport'Merci
Ah oui je vois tu veux sans doute parler du tampon avec la page de la photo.? Le passeport n'en aurais pas , comme si c'était un faux passeport ?
Ah oui je vois tu veux sans doute parler du tampon avec la page de la photo.? Le passeport n'en aurais pas , comme si c'était un faux passeport ?
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Merci de m'aider c'est gentil.
P-être que tu as raison pour un faux passeport.
Je connais cet ami juste par internet.
J'ai écris à l'aéroport d'Amsterdam et il m'ont envoyé un numéro de téléphone ou je peux m'informer mais je ne parle pas anglais alors j'ai un grave problème.Je vais essayer avec un traducteur et je te redonne des nouvelles.Merci de ta gentillesse car j'ai peur pour une fraude car il me demande de payer le tampon 300 euro plus le billet aller à Palerme.
Je n'avais pas pensé faus passeport .Passe une belle soirée.
madeleine lapointe
Merci de m'aider c'est gentil.
P-être que tu as raison pour un faux passeport.
Je connais cet ami juste par internet.
J'ai écris à l'aéroport d'Amsterdam et il m'ont envoyé un numéro de téléphone ou je peux m'informer mais je ne parle pas anglais alors j'ai un grave problème.Je vais essayer avec un traducteur et je te redonne des nouvelles.Merci de ta gentillesse car j'ai peur pour une fraude car il me demande de payer le tampon 300 euro plus le billet aller à Palerme.
Je n'avais pas pensé faus passeport .Passe une belle soirée.
Un ami par internet ;
1-Ça annonce mal mais soyons optimiste .
2- Il te demande 300 euros et sous un faux prétexte en plus . Et le billet pour Palerme.
3- Ah ben là c'est clair , il tente de te frauder .
1 + 2 = 3
Pour moins cher que ça , pour rien même , tu peux avoir des tas d'amis sur le forum en y participant .😉
Aller , bonne soirée à toi ,
Un ami par internet ;
1-Ça annonce mal mais soyons optimiste .
2- Il te demande 300 euros et sous un faux prétexte en plus . Et le billet pour Palerme.
3- Ah ben là c'est clair , il tente de te frauder .
1 + 2 = 3
Pour moins cher que ça , pour rien même , tu peux avoir des tas d'amis sur le forum en y participant .😉
Aller , bonne soirée à toi ,
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Merci Mabouille.Je suis contente de voir tant de monde qui t'aide sur ce site
Merci à vous tous
madeleine lapointe
Merci Mabouille.Je suis contente de voir tant de monde qui t'aide sur ce site
?
Mais c'est toi qu'on aide .
?
Mais c'est toi qu'on aide .
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Oui je sais que c'est moi que tu aides.Un GROS merci à toi
Bonne soirée:)
madeleine lapointe
Oui je sais que c'est moi que tu aides.Un GROS merci à toi
Bonne soirée:)
Et c'est un plaisir 🙂
Je connais un peintre qui a son atelier sur la route du manoir à Pointe au Pic , ses initiales L. L.
Ça te dis quelques chose ?
Et c'est un plaisir 🙂
Je connais un peintre qui a son atelier sur la route du manoir à Pointe au Pic , ses initiales L. L.
Ça te dis quelques chose ?
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Bonjour Startele.
Oui oui Laurent Lafleur c'est uhn de nos bons amis.
J'ai monté un vidéo avec ses peintures.
Va voir sur you tube et demande (Claude Atkins) après tu vas voir(quand les hommes vivront d'amour) c'est ce vidéo que j'ai monté avec les peinture de Laurent.
Bonne journée
madeleine lapointe
Bonjour Startele.
Oui oui Laurent Lafleur c'est uhn de nos bons amis.
J'ai monté un vidéo avec ses peintures.
Va voir sur you tube et demande (Claude Atkins) après tu vas voir(quand les hommes vivront d'amour) c'est ce vidéo que j'ai monté avec les peinture de Laurent.
Bonne journée
Ahah je le connais très très bien aussi .
Ahah je le connais très très bien aussi .
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Le monde est petit le frère de notre ami Laurent.Contente de te connaître.
Est-ce que toi aussi tu es artiste.
En fait on veut lui demandé de laisser notre auto chez lui en mars s'il a de la place.
madeleine lapointe
Le monde est petit le frère de notre ami Laurent.Contente de te connaître.
Est-ce que toi aussi tu es artiste.
En fait on veut lui demandé de laisser notre auto chez lui en mars s'il a de la place.
Non pas du tout le même métier . A Montréal ?
Non pas du tout le même métier . A Montréal ?
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
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I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie