Informations de voyage en Namibie - 16 Aout - 8 Septembre 2007. Tout seul, en couple. Infos générales : - Il faut obligatoirement le permis de conduire internationnal. Le loueur de voiture (asco) le demande pour délivrer la voiture. - Beaucoup de vols et de "pertes" de bagages sur SAA. dixit notre organisateur de voyage ( " vous avez vos quatre bagages, c'est un miracle" ), selon plusieurs personnes rencontrées (bris de cadenats, vols...), et selon notre propre expérience au retour : manque deux bagages sur quatre (les vêtements et autres souvenirs). Il semblerait qu'il soit préférable de passer par Frankfurt pour arriver directement à Windhoek. Pour info aussi, le prix du kilo supplémentaire sur SAA est de 23 euro. (nous 6 kilos = 138 euros ! ! ! ! ). On aurait du réaménager nos bagages et nos sacs cabine ! ! ! - Le plan pneu est à connaitre avant de partir. Le plus important à savoir est que un pneu crevé et réparé n'est pas accepté par Asco Car Hire. En cas de crevaison, même s'il est réparé, le pneu sera refusé par Asco qui veut un pneu neuf. Alors soit vous l'achetez vous même (env 220 euros), soit ils vous calculent un prix prorata pour le remplacer : prix du neuf (380 euros ! ! ! ! ) divisé par 11 millimètres d'un pneu neuf (même si vous êtes partis avec des pneus déjà usagés) et multiplié par les millimètres usés manquants. En résumé, chez Asco, chaque pneu crevé doit revenir... neuf. Il est impératif de se faire écrire ces conditions (si possible en français) dans vos demandes de devis. Nous avons demandé à notre départ de pouvoir partir avec des vrais pneus 4x4, car les pneus montés d'origine sur les 4x4 neufs ne tiennent pas le choc sur les Gravels namibiennes (même s'ils sont plus costauds que les pneus de voitures "normales"). Mais Asco n'a rien voulu savoir. On a donc crevé "que" deux fois parce que on a roulé doucement : en fait il faut glisser le moins possible, donc beaucoup ralentir avant les virages et/ou les creux et les bosses et/ou les tôles ondulées très glissantes, si non on glisse sur un cailloux pointu et c'est la crevaison assurée. NB : l'assurance Zéro excess ne prend pas en compte les pneus évidemment ! - 4x4 ou pas 4x4 ? Tente sur le toit ? Sur les Gravels, pour nous y a pas photo. Il n'aurait pas été concevable, surtout en voyageant seul, de partir avec une "simple" voiture (genre petite Nissan ressemblant à une Clio) : ils roulent à 30 - 50 Km/h, les pneus sont trop fragiles, et à la moindre bosse on peut facilement casser un amortisseur (plus costaud sur les 4x4). Mais bon, chacun fait comme il veut ou comme il peut biensur. Nous on a roulé de 60 - 80 Km/h (Opuwo - Seisfontein) à 80 - 100 km/h ailleurs sur les Gravels (85% de notre trajet). Je ne sais pas me prononcer sur les Condor (genre petit minibus surélevé). Sauf que les pneus ne sont toujours pas adaptés. De même, la tente sur le toit pour le camping est très appréciable : moins salissant qu'une tente au sol, les bestioles (lézards) vues dans les douches ne savent pas monter à l'échelle. Le seul inconvénient de la tente sur le toit, c'est qu'il faut apprendre à ne pas boire le soir, parce que se lever la nuit (froide fin aout) et courir aux toilettes à l'autre bout du camping, c'est vraiment très dur... L'autre inconvénient de la tente sur le toit c'est que c'est écrit "TOURISTE" quand on arrive en ville et que ça attire... - on n'a pas vu de moustique fin Aout à Epupa (dans le nord). Soit il n'y en avait pas, soit la bombe anti moustique et le porte clé vibra-son (Nature et Découverte) ont fonctionné. - Température (du 15 Aout au 7 septembre) Nous n'avons jamais eu besoin plus que les sacs polaires emportés en supplément des couettes assez chaudes fournies par le loueur. Petite laine obligatoire pour les soirées dans le sud (à partir de 17h00). Pour les matins, on n'a jamais voulu tester les températures "de l'aube" puisque même à Sossusvlei on a visité en fin d'après midi (un couché de soleil vaut bien un levé non ?). Donc on se levait vers 6h30 - 7h00 et avec la même petite laine que celle du soir, ça a été. "évidemmment" la petite laine de ma petite femme était plus épaisse que la mienne et enfilée plus tôt... ! hihihi. - Petites Bestioles On n'a pas vu de scorpion, pas vu de serpent, pas d'araignée sauf des jolies araignées qui ressemblent à des scarabés à Sesriem camp site. On a juste vu des petits lézards deux fois dans les douches, et des plus gros jolis tout plein au bord de la Kunene. - Grosses bestioles. Pas vu de Léopard, pas vus d'hippo. Mais les autres étaient là : lions, éléphants, rhino, et tout le reste de la ménagerie en pagaille... - T-O : On avait tout réservé par Tourmaline qui n'ont pas été très prolixe en conseils sur l'itinéraire que j'avais longuement préparé grace à tous vos précieux conseils. J'aurais pu aller à Puros s'ils m'avaient bien conseillé. Je pense que c'est mieux de passer par un organisateur SUR PLACE parce que j'ai voulu réserver un Camping (Etosha safari camp) par moi même, mais Namibia Widle Resort m'a fait plein de soucis car ils ne voulaient pas de transfert en euros. Ma banque pouvait faire un transfert en Rand (pas en $N évidemment), mais me prenait beaucoup de frais. J'ai fini par faire un tranfert de 15 euros au lieu de 12... ! pour que NWR accepte... ! (+ 17 euros de frais bancaires ... !). Alors que Tourmaline a reçu mon transfert de banque et a payé presque tout y compris le loueur de voiture (pas les parcs, pas certains campings : betta, warmquelle....). En fait j'aurais pu m'occuper seul de la location de la voiture mais je n'ay aurais rien gagner sauf les précisions sur les pneus et la location d'un téléphone satellite que Tourmaline a raté. - Camping vs Lodges. Certes le camping de Hobatéré (par exemple) très sommaire ne souffre pas la différence avec le Lodge magnifique du même nom. Mais ce n'est pas comme ça partout. Le prix du camping (env 15 euros en général) fait aussi la différence avec celui d'un Lodge (Hobatéré par exemple : 190 euros pour deux : lodge, dinners, petit déj, game drive inclus. et franchement ça les valait : lions, lionnes, éléphants, lion qui se croque une gazelle le matin, éléphant qui vient nous respirer à 10 mètres...). Par contre exemple, le camping de Anib Lodge étant super classe (douche perso), il n'y avait pas lieu de prendre le Lodge. Nous on a fait 14 nuits en camping (tente sur le toit du 4x4), 3 nuits en bungalows, et 3 nuits en lodge et 2 nuits en hotel à Windhoek. Pas de camping en bord de mer (Swakopmund, Walvis bay) parce que arrivé du désert (Messum crater) à 32 degrés et plonger à 12 degrés en plein après-midi en arrivant à Henties bay, c'est décourageant. - Itinéraire. N'ayant pas eu d'infos suffisemment claires sur les durées de trajet entre les différents points d'intérêt, j'avais organisé de petites étapes de 200 kms en moyenne. La plus grosse de 280 Kms. J'ai tracé et relevé tous mes points GPS sur Google Earth. Ca a été surtout indispensable pour la petite piste désertique qui arrive (de UIS) et qui repart de Messum Crater vers Henties bay. Ce qui fait que, grace aux 4x4, nous avons roulé en général moins de 3h30 par jour. On partait en général vers 8h30 et on arrivait vers 11h30 au point suivant, toutes pauses photo incluses. Le reste de la journée était ainsi consacrée aux game drives, point d'eau, visites, rencontres avec les gens... et 8 à 10 heures de sommeil par nuit : des vraies vacances. De même, voyageant à un seul véhicule, je n'ai pas tanté ma chance du côté de Orupembe - Puros - Rivière Huab où les pistes semblaient plus hardues. Dommage, on reviendra. - itinéraire détaillé : * Windhoek : Uhland Lodge BB Très bien. Dinner chez Joes (très bon) * Waterberg : Camping Très bien. Electricité. * Etosha - Manutoni : Camping. Bien. Beaucoup de monde donc bruyant. Electricité. * Etosha - Halali : Camping. Bien. Beaucoup de monde donc bruyant. Electricité. * Etosha - Okaukuejo en travaux --> camping à la sortie sud : Etosha Safari Camp. Correct sans plus. Pas d'ombre. Electricité payante 50 $N. * Hobatéré : camping réservé, on a switché sur le lodge et on n'a pas regretté du tout, mais alors pas du tout... * Kunene River Lodge : Bangalow * Epupa : Camping. Au bord de la rivière. Super classe. Douche en lein air... ! * Opuwo : on a négocié le switch du camping (trop chaud) vers le lodge. Très bien. Vue magnifique. Piscine très froide. * Warmquelle - Ongongo : camping. Attention aux habitants de la rivière qui font la fête toutes les nuits. * Twyfelfontein. Camping à Aba Huab River Camp Site. Super. On a espéré voir des éléphants. * Henties bay : Hotel de Duine + dinner. Très bien. * Spitzkope : Camping autonome. Douche à l'autre bout du camp (5 km). Superbe endroit. * Walvis Bay : Lagoon Lodge. Très bien. Pas de repas (sauf sur demande à l'avance). Dinner Red House - restau espagnol très bien. * Kuangukuangu : 2 nuits. Braai Pack, Lunch Pack, Table d'hôte. Kuangukuangu c'est super-super. * Sesriem : Sesriem Camp Site (essayer d'obtenir une place 11 à 21, avec vue sur les dunes), à l'intérieur du parc, avant la porte d'accès à Sossusvlei. Piscine. Très bien. * Betta : Bungalow tout neuf (pas d'eau froide, que de l'eau brulante qu'il fallait fermer avec une pince énorme..) et super sympa. Piscine impossible car eau marron. * Klein Aus Vista : Camping. Très bien. * Anib Lodge : Camping extra : Douche et WC persos, électricité, Braai... Dinner au restau. Game drive cool. * Windhoek : Hotel Londiningi : Ca veut dire "lieu d'accueil et de protection"... Merci Nathalie... BB + Dinner - Ce que l'on retient : * On a aimé, on a beaucoup aimé... C'est vraiment différent de l'afrique occidentale. * on reviendra à deux voitures pour faire Puros, plus de temps sur la Kunene (entre Epupa et Swartboisdrift), peut être Marienfluss ou Hartmann Valley * on reviendra pour faire le Botswana : Chobe, Maun-Okavango, et Victoria Falls. Pour faire peut être aussi Kruger et autres jolis endroits en AFS malgré nos appréhensions sur la sécurité dans ce pays. Je tiens à remercier ici les acteurs-actrices principaux de ce forum dont les messages m'ont beaucoup aidé depuis 8 mois pour préparer ce voyage. Maintenant je vais tacher de rendre un peu la pareille : n'hésitez pas à me poser vos questions. Bons voyages à tous.
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
Merci pour toutes ces infos
Je suis entrain de préparer un voyage pour aout 2008 en famille (6 personnes) et en camping car
En te lisant je voyais que tu avais utilisé les services de tourmaline.
Ils se sont occupés de toutes tes reservations? (hotels, lodges camping)
Sont ils fiables et sérieux?
Merci d avance
Tourmaline a bien fait son travail mais ne va pas toujours au bout des choses : malgré mes demandes explicites, ils ont "oublié" de me réserver un Téléphone satellite (qui me emblait nécessaire pour voyager à un seul véhicule du coté de Puros où nous voulions aller et à messum crater très désertique). De même pour le permis international demandé par Asco, Tourmaline avait "oublié" de me le dire.
Tu le vois deux petits détails qui n'ont pas gaché notre voyage.
Si non, ils ont tout réservé sauf deux campings "exotiques" : Ongongo-Warmquelle et Betta. Ils ont également tout gérer avec le loueur.
Attention : ils peuvent réserver les campings dans les parcs mais ne peuvent pas réserver les entrées des parcs, tu devras les prendre en arrivant, no problem... sauf à Sesriem ça fait perdre du temps si tu veux voir le levé du soleil à 65 Km de l'entrée.
Sur ce forum les gens disent aussi du bien de l agence Mediza.
Profite bien de cette période "avant de partir", parce que après on n'a qu'une envie...
Franck
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
tu n'es pas allé à Puros car tu n'avais pas de téléphone ????...
quel dommage !
nul besoin de telephone, ni de gps pour aller à Puros. c'est certes très isolé mais il n'y a qu'une piste donc impossible de se perdre et en cas de problème il y a quand même des voitures qui passent.
pour le permis internationnal apparemment ça n'est une obligation que chez Asco !
bon c'est quand même mieux de l'avoir.
pourquoi vouloir passer à tous prix par une agence, que ce soit en france ou en namibie directement. Si on veut vraiment blinder son voyage avec des réservations, on peut très bien le faire soi même depuis son fauteuil.
mais ne vaut il pas mieux laisser un peu de place à l'improvisation, surtout en camping...
content de voir que tu as apprécié Kuangukuangu, on ne parle pas souvent de cet endroit unique et merveilleux.
Merci Francky, et...on s'en fiche de la mise en page !
De retour du sud de l'Inde (différent....) nous commençons à préparer notre futur voyage en namibie avec nos 3 petits enfants. A te lire, à part l'avion (et un bon cours de mécano..., tout serait à règler sur place. Ce que nous avons toujours fait en Asie par ailleurs. Mais est-ce la même chose là-bas ? Faudra-t-il passer qq jours à WHK ? ou en 1 journée on peut évaluer, négocier et acheter son TO ? vérif de la voiture etc ? aussi, conseillerais-tu de loger sous une tente sur le toit avec des petits enfants ?
et dernière question, est-ce de la folie de s'aventurer la-bas avec des tous petits ? L'Inde etc...ils adorent et jamais eu un pépin. ça dédramatise l'idée des voyages avec des petits enfants mais du coup, tout ou presque nous semble possible. On se trompe ?
Merci pour tes conseils et ton temps
» L'expérience est une lanterne accrochée dans le dos qui n'éclaire que le chemin parcouru ..." Confucius
bonjour,
Nous préparons aussi un voyage en famille pour le mois d'août. Vos enfants sont-ils petits ? Les notres, 7, 6 et 3 aujourd'hui . Avez-vous des bons plans famille ou des conseils ? Première fois pour nous en Namibie.
Merci
» L'expérience est une lanterne accrochée dans le dos qui n'éclaire que le chemin parcouru ..." Confucius
tu n'es pas allé à Puros car tu n'avais pas de téléphone ????...
quel dommage !
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Je suis d'accord avec toi, une fois qu'on a vu sur place. mais avant de partir je n'ai trouvé aucune certitude sur les temps de parcours et Tourmaline n'a pas su me renseigner. D'autant plus que j'aurais voulu rallier Epupa - Puros par Orupembe, ou Opuwo Puros sans passer par Seisfontein. Bref... Et comme c'était notre premier voyage à un seul véhicule...
On y retournera...--
pourquoi vouloir passer à tous prix par une agence, que ce soit en france ou en namibie directement. Si on veut vraiment blinder son voyage avec des réservations, on peut très bien le faire soi même depuis son fauteuil.
mais ne vaut il pas mieux laisser un peu de place à l'improvisation, surtout en camping...
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Là aussi je suis d'accord. Je pense que la prochaine fois on partira en Septembre et qu'on prendra le temps sans réserver.
Je pense que le seul avantage de passer par une agence c'est les Transferts de Banks qui sont plus compliqués en direct avec Namibia Reservation, et que le passage par une agence ne revient pas plus cher.
Improvisation - Camping : Oui d'accord aussi, Maintenant que l'on a expérimenté, on sait que la Namibie se prête bien à des vacances avec beaucoup d'aventure sans mésaventures...
J'en profite pour une question : penses tu que l'on puisse faire le Botswana sans faire toutes ces réservations à l'avance ?
Que l'on peut "naviguer à l'aventure" ? merci.--
content de voir que tu as apprécié Kuangukuangu, on ne parle pas souvent de cet endroit unique et merveilleux.
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Ce que j'ai surtout apprécié, c'est de trouver ici l'information de son existence grace à toi et à Noémie... Parce que c'est surtout pour ce genre d'endroit "nature" que nous sommes allés là bas.
Ci joint une petite photo pour appuer nos dires.
Thanks again.
Franck
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
pour Puros c'est pourtant une question à laquelle j'ai du répondre 100 fois 😉
ben oui faut y retourner de toutes façons. Moi je me pose la question d'aller encore plus loin dans les fins fonds du kaokoland (vallée de hartmann et marienfluss). mais là oui il faudra un tel et un gps et surement 2 voitures.
pour le botswana à l'inverse de la namibie il faut obligatoirement réserver les camps des parcs nationaux.(moremi, chobe), bien que j'ai trouvé qu'il ya avait beaucoup de places libres malgré que c'était sensé être complet !
autrement à part les parcs je n'avais fait aucune réservation sauf à maun car j'avais booké en même temps un mokoro trip.
Moi je me pose la question d'aller encore plus loin dans les fins fonds du kaokoland (vallée de hartmann et marienfluss). mais là oui il faudra un tel et un gps et surement 2 voitures.
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C'était prévu au départ mais pas tout seul, et nos potes se sont désistés.
Alors si tu prévois d'y aller un jour fais le savoir suffisemment tôt pour voir si on peu se coordonner et se retrouver là bas, à deux voitures (j'ai le GPS avec les waypoints).
Je rêve de voir Van Zyl's Pass, Marienfluss (j'ai lu qu'ils construisent un lodge de luxe près de la Kunene... beurk !), Hartmann, et de rencontrer les "vrais gens"...
A suivre...
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
Franchement, c'est trop cool la Namibie.
Tu prends ta voiture, tu pars sur la cote d'azur... Bah la Namibie c'est (presque) pareil.
On a vu plusieurs familles avec plusieurs enfants, dont des allemands avec trois enfants env. 4, 6 et 9 ans, dans un minibus et tente au sol.
Evidemment faut rester sur les sentiers battus et rouler tranquile et pas la nuit, mais je pense que ça le fait bien.
Pour la tente sur le toit, avec les petits enfants, faudra gérer le pipi de la nuit... mais je pense que mes enfants auraient adoré dormir dans ce petit nid...
Je pense que c'est pas la peine de passer du temps à Windhoek pour organiser ton périple, tu peux le faire d'ici (email, sites internet, TO, fax et téléphone, et même loueurs de voitures en direct si tu veux). pour le reste, A mon avis tu peux tout régler sur place y compris Etosha et Sesriem si tu pars pas pendant les vancances scolaires Nam et Sud'AF.
( Je sais que je parle sous controle de personnes plus expérimentées que moi... 😉😉 )
Fais quand même attention aux possibilités de ta carte bleue (locations voiture, lodges, restau...) qui pourrait se trouvée bloquée si tu "dépenses trop", c'est pas plus mal d'avoir fait un virement de banque avant le départ.
Pour le tourisme à Windhoek, nous on n'est pas très ville. On a passé l'après midi de l'arrivée (et la nuit) et le matin du départ et ça nous a suffit pour voir et faire nos courses et rendre la voiture à 12h00 : environ 30 minutes (le temps de mesurer ce qu'il reste des pneus...!).
Franck
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
Merci pour les conseils. Aussi, la location de voiture sous entend un chauffeur ou pas ? On sait rouler par nous même facilement ? Sorry de la question peut-être naïve mais mes longs séjours en Inde ont qq peu laissé des traces...Les prix sont facilement négociables ou un tarif est communément proposé par toutes les agences ?
Il y a des agences plus sûres que d'autres ?
Et en Namibie (autre question probablement naïve voire grotesque), il y a-t-il des barreurs de route ? checkpoint etc...on sait aller vraiment partout ? J'ai des souvenirs frontaliers Nigéria/Cameroun qui me glacent encore....
On se réjouit en tout cas ...
Merci pour tous ces détails qui somme toute ne sont pas sans importance.
» L'expérience est une lanterne accrochée dans le dos qui n'éclaire que le chemin parcouru ..." Confucius
Pas de chauffeur en namibie, un guide peut être pour aller dans des endroits particuliers (Puros...) mais c'est pas obligatoire. Je te l'ai dit c'est presque comme pour aller sur la cote d'azur... Tu sais rouler par toi même, mais à gauche, alors ça klaxonne parfois... ! mais ils sont pas méchants.
Les agences tu les trouves facilement sur ce forum (allez fais un effort, l'outil de recherche est vraiment bien, tu vas y passer des heures, et puis y a les carnets de voyage de Noemie et Vinnylove...).
Pas de barreur de route, Pas de raquette non plus comme on peut le connaitre en afrique occidentale (les flics et les fonctionnaires sont payés). Bref tu réserves, tu pars et tu profites, c'est vraiment aussi simple que ça.
Je crois aussi que quand on a fait l'inde, la namibie c'est trop facile...
Les prix sont négociables sur les produits artisanaux (bois, etc) mais mes semble t il, plus difficilement sur les locations de voitures : les gros ne négocient pas bcp j'ai cru comprendre.
Trouve ce que tu veux voir et combien de temps tu veux partir, fais ton itinéraire et prévois les étapes (tu rouleras à 70km/h en moyenne sans les pauses, choisi combien de temps tu veux rouler par jour), demande tes devis à deux agences et cherche ta voiture, ça va le faire tout seul...
Bonne préparation.
Profite bien de cette période "avant de partir", parce que après on n'a qu'une envie...
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
3 semaines en Namibie en juillet avec un enfant de tout juste 5ans. Voyage extra super facile mais assez cher.
Le 4X4 n'est pas une obligation cout et conso assez élévé mais c'est un confort et celà permet de sortir un peu des sentier batus.
Obligation de reserver super à l'avance à Ethosha, si non dodo endehors du parc. Comme on a eu des soucis avec le namibia machin ressort notre agence de location de voiture à effectué le payement de la reservation, pour info Camping Care Hire bonne prestation, on avait un 4X4 neuf.
Prendre une agence ne sert à rien de chez rien.
Merci pour l'info. Mais quelle est alors l'alternative au 4*4 ? les transports publics dans certaines régions ?
Que veux-tu dire par prendre une agence ne sert à rien ? de quel type d'agence parles-tu ?
Et le petit loulou de 5 ans, il en a pensé quoi ?
à bientôt
marie
» L'expérience est une lanterne accrochée dans le dos qui n'éclaire que le chemin parcouru ..." Confucius
Le petit Loulou a adoré surtout les animaux, il faut dire aussi qu'il est assez cool en voiture, on a comme même fait 4000km en 3 semaines.
L'alternative au 4X4 je pense c'est le toyota condor, un espèce de monospace ( donc de la place) avec une bonne garde au sol un plus sur certaines piste.
Nous avons opté pour un 4X4 equipé camping. Celà permetait d'etre autonome.
Les piste sont tres bonnes, quelques cul de poule parfois. Avec un peu d'attention une voiture fait tres bien l'affaire sauf ds l'extrem nord ouest du pays.
Les agences de voyages ne servent à rien car c'est un voyage tres facile à organiser, la seule difficulté c'est la reservation des camps à ethosha, il faut s'y prendre bien à l'avance, et la reservation à de sesriem, mais là moyen de négocier sur place. On avez reservé à Ethosha depuis la France avec l'aide de notre loueur de voiture, le camp de seriem était complet, mais une fois sur place ils nous ont donné une place sur l'emplacement groupe. Par contre impossible de négocier à Ethosha, il est toujours possible de dormir à extérieur du parc, moins pratique.
Pour ma part, Marienfluss se sera pour dans 2 ans : Sept/oct 2009 (que c'est loin !!!) mais j'ai réellement peur de retrouver ce si merveilleurx pays. Les prix ont doublé et fini les pistes ou l'on ne croisent personnes pendant des jours 😠 Et fini, je ne vante plus la beauté de Warmquelle qui va bientot devenir, si ça continue, un endroit aussi populaire que Sussusvlei !!! J'aurais du garder ça pour moi, teins ! 😛
Et si on peut se lepermettre, pour éviter la foule, on ira à Nyae Nyae dans le Bushland, je n'ai encore pas vu grand monde y aller par la-bas...
Mais je vous préviendrez 😉
Mon carnet de route pour la Namibie
Mon carnet de route pour le Japon (en construction)
Ah bon, à ce point là ? Vite alors et...non, promis on partagera notre expérience !
Cela étant j'ai dur à imaginer dans ces si grands espaces, que l'on double sans arrêt sur la route ! ou se batte pour une parcelle de terrain dans le désert ! Mais bon, c'est bien là l'avantage et les désavantage de la démocratisation du tourisme ! à nous d'être éduqué et respectueux !
» L'expérience est une lanterne accrochée dans le dos qui n'éclaire que le chemin parcouru ..." Confucius
Ben quand je suis partie la 1ere fois, personne, ou du moins, peu de personne ne connaisait ce pays. Même moi pour avouer alors que je suis assez calée en Géo. Maintenant, c'est devenu une dstination à la mode on va dire. Bon, ce n'est pas encore la Tunisue ou la Thailande mais avec le pottentiel que recele la Namibie, ce'st une question de temps ! Les prix sont trop élevés pour une vraie démocratisation du pays mais il y a chaque années de plus en plus de tourites.
Mais voyons le bon coté des choses, le pays s'enrichit et le tourisme crée de l'emploi :)
Mon carnet de route pour la Namibie
Mon carnet de route pour le Japon (en construction)
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Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM
4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing
5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?)
8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...)
9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?)
11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!)
13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure)
16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...)
18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP
21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!)
22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now...
I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments...
Can’t wait to be back there again!
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
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Just returned from a three-week family trip to Kenya (with three kids aged 10, 12, and 15), and I wanted to share my experience. Forums were super helpful in planning this trip, especially if you want to get a bit off the beaten path.
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes.
I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks).
Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate.
Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross.
Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head.
Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes:
Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek?
At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge?
There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls.
I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions.
I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali.
Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha.
I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4.
Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
😊🦁
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be:
- Hwange
- Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona)
- Mana Pools
- Harare
- Gonarezhou
- Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
