Après la Namibie en 2005 (Aaahhh le Kaokoland dans Khumid et Hoarusib ou entre Okangwati et otjitanda!!!),
2007 --> Bostwana + une semaine au Kaokoland (Ouest d'Opuwo jusqu'au fond du Marienfluss et/ou Hartmann) ...
Pour être "à l'aise" combien de jour faut-il compter pour aller
1) de Windhoek à Maun en passant dans Kalahari Central National Park (déception valley ...)
2) De Victoria falls à Opuwo par le nord d'Etosha (Rundu, Okashati).
je suis très interessé si tu as des infos sur les vallées de hartmann et marienfluss
j'ai tellement adoré la région de puros que j'aimerai bien aller voir plus loin mais quid de l'état des pistes. il n'est pas conseillé d'y aller avec une seule voiture (4x4 bien sur) Ne risque t'on pas de se perdre avec des pistes mal indiquées ?
sinon désolé je n'ai pas de réponse à tes questions 😛
Je ne sais pas si tu es un habitué du 4x4 et de la mécanique . Suivant le cas, essaye déjà la portion Okongwati / Otjitanda (en revenant par exemple d’Epupa falls) pout te « familiariser » avec le coin (80 km, 5 heures). Tu peux ensuite continuer sur Etanga et revenir à Opuwo pour le ravitaillement.
Si tu préfères Marienflus et Hartmann, je crois qu’il ne faut pas essayer pour une première fois d’y aller par van Zyl’s Pass (uniquement vers Marienfluss, sens Est/Ouest, pentes à 40% à certains endroits…), mais plutôt par le sud (Orupembe), puis par Orange drum pour Hartmann, ou red drum pour Marienfluss.
Quoiqu’il en soit, en 2005, nous avions un seul 4x4, nous avons fait du hors piste, des lits de rivière (prévoir plaque de désensablage) : (inconscience ? chance ? pas le moindre problème, pas la moindre crevaison ) .
J’avais GPS + telephone satellite (au cas où, ça se loue) + cartes que j’ai fabriquées et sur lesquelles j’ai reporté tous les points GPS importants (notamment les points d’eau), les bifurcation douteuses …
Caroline, de l’agence Madiza, est très bien
La carte Shell du Kaokoland te donne une bonne vue d’ensemble, mais, si je n’ai qu’un conseil à te donner, indispensable pour des préparatifs dignes de ce nom, il te faut impérativement acheter la carte « T4A maps Africa » Namibie/Angola sur le site de Tracks4Africa, (à lire sur ordi avec le logiciel Map Source de Garmin, que tu dois pouvoir charger sur http://www.garmin.com/support/mappingsw.jsp ). Tu auras tous les points GPS et les itinéraires (pistes, hors piste, lits de rivière, points d’eau, villages) avec une précision de 200m.
C'est du goudron... Les gens le font en général sur deux jours, s il s ne s'arrêtent pas trop longtemps chez les Sans.
Regarde le kilométrage exact et compte 90 km/h.
Bon allez, je regarde sur MapSource... : 805 Km. MapSource indique 11h30, mais je n y crois pas; Compte une quinzaine d'heures.
De Victoria Falls à Opuwo
Une frontière à Kasane, la bande de caprivi... Google earth annonce 1465 km avec 22h20... 🤪. je dirais plutôt 3 jours.
N'oublies pas qu il y a plein de choses à voir sur la route...😉
Tu as peu de temps pour faire ce tour ?
Concernant Marienfluss et Hartmann, tu avais loué ton 4x4 chez qui, tu vas loué chez qui ? Ils avaient (vont) accepté que tu ailles là bas ou tu as juste oublié de leur dire ? 😊 😛
+ cartes que j’ai fabriquées
Tu les as fabriquée à partir de quoi ? Map Source ? Google Earth ?
Ne risque t-on pas de se perdre avec des pistes mal indiquées ?
Pour essayer de commencer à te rassurer, parce que si non tu vas pas dormir jusqu'en 2012, et parce que faut bien que je me rassure aussi ... 🙂 😉
Photo de TD Duplessis - Google Earth - Panoramio : franchement ça fait envie.
De même que les jolis noms sur la cartes MapSource de Hartmann : Dead end, Monster Dune... et pic-nic au fond de la vallée.
Moi je vote pour Van Zyl's... 😉 😄... t as vu ils ont fait un camping en haut de la passe pour voir le Sundowner le soir et le lever du soleil le lendemain...
Et puis regarde ça passe tout seul... ! 😏😄 🏴☠️ (photo de Torte276 - GE - Panoramio)
Eh bien ! Ça phosphore sur ce vieux post… 😉
On va déjà essayer d'éclaircir quelques zones d'ombre cet été…
Pour Van Zyl's, tout le monde fait la même photo au même endroit ! J'ai l'impression que la partie vraiment difficile ne fait que 50 ou 100 m… Mais je n'irais pas encore y voir cette année.
2) De Victoria falls à Opuwo par le nord d'Etosha (Rundu, Okashati).
Si tu es côté Zambie (Livingstone) Il te faut 2 jours de jours pour rejoindre Etosha Est
Ex : Livingstone --> Bagani/Divundi via Sesheke
Bagani/Divundu-->Etosha via Rundu
En partant de Victoria falls (Zimbabwe) et en allant via Kasane/Ngoma et Katima Mulilo, cela doit être kif kif
Rajoute une journée pour rejoindre Opuwo
Salut !
Bah alors pourquoi ce post est il remonté en tête de liste ???
Je vais t'expliquer Franck 😇: depuis quelques temps VF nous donnent un double éventail (olé) de discussions et tu as trouvé celle-ci dans le 1er
Discussions ayant des similitudes avec la discussion ci-haut:
Tu comprends ? Dis ? Faut suivre, voyons !😇
Bon ça fait rien, ça alimente le rêve comme tu dis...
Oh, que non, ça fait rien au contraire cela nous permet de relire qlq morceaux choisis de poésie :
"Purée, il s'affine ce voyage, bientôt tu vas nous demander si on peut cueillir des fleurs au point kilométrique 42, sur le hors piste entre warmquelle et ... Pfff !"
Et pourquoi pas ?🙂 😉
Mais, sans rire, pour cette fois 😛 cela m'a permis de relire la discussion de Eric concernant la route Kamanjab-Etosha par Mon Désir ( tout un programme... 🙂)
Je reprends la formule de Vincent dans ta discussion du 21 novembre 2007
"la fougue de la jeunesse sans doute 😛"
🙂😏😎🙂
Au sujet de cette discussion, tu l'avais suivie, Eric, la piste Kamanjab-Etosha via Son désir ?
J'y passerai à la mi-septembre.
Comment tu l'avais trouvée point de vue temps et beauté du paysage ?
Au sujet de cette discussion, tu l'avais suivie, Eric, la piste Kamanjab-Etosha via Son désir ?
J'y passerai à la mi-septembre.
Comment tu l'avais trouvée point de vue temps et beauté du paysage ?
Moi, moi, M'dame ! Moi je l'ai faite cette piste via Notre Désir !
C'était très sympa, paysages assez variés, bush et petites collines. La route traverse des fermes avec leurs barrières à ouvrir et refermer.
On a fait dans ce coin-là une rencontre assez mémorable avec un fermier blanc, mais tanné par le soleil qui menait son troupeau façon Far West et qui ma broyé la main pour me saluer… mes phalanges s'en souviennent encore !
Oui je m'en souviens et voilà ce que j'avais écrit :
"Nous quittons la ferme des Guépards. Ayant fait nos courses la veille à Kamanjab, nous décidons de prendre un raccourci et de ne pas descendre jusqu'à Outjo pour rejoindre Etosha. Selon nos hôtes, la piste est belle et on met sensiblement le même temps que par la route.
Nous empruntons donc la D2671 puis la D2695 et passons donc par Mondesir. Effectivement, la gravel road est très bonne et je suis sûr d’avoir gagné du temps. On rattrape la grande route et direction plein Nord : Etosha. "
Je me souviens que nous avons longé des minuscules hameaux. Pas de paysage particulier (de mémoire du type bush) mais en tout cas bien plus dépaysant et avec un "goût d'aventure" plus fort que sur la route goudronnée...
Merci Pierre !
Je me doutais que ce style de voie était plus sympa !
Je viens de re-re parcourir (en vitesse) ton carnet et y re-voir la photo de ton gamin à une barrière... quelles sont belles tes photos !
Super ton carnet et les photos superbes !
Merci à toi aussi, Eric !
Je viens également de re-re lire la 2ème P de ton carnet mais tu es assez bref sur ce passage, cela ne t'a pas marqué comme ce fut le cas pour la route Kasane , Nata, Francistown jusqu’à Palapye ! 🙂
Quel bonheur de lire vos carnets à tous !
Je reprends la formule de Vincent dans ta discussion du 21 novembre 2007
C'est incroyable ça... 😮
Tu as dû indexé ton cerveau avec Google Desktop... 😎
Tu as mangé du poisson jour et nuit depuis ta tendre enfance...?🙂
Tu t'entraines avec ta Play Station 2 ... 😉
AH non... je sais... tu as passé ta vie derrière un comptoir ou dans un laboratoire à fabriquer je ne sais quelle potion magique qui garde une mémoire d'éléphant... 😄
Quel bonheur de lire vos carnets à tous
Ah ça... tu peux être sur que nous allons te haaaarceleeeeer à ton retour pour TOUUUUUUT savoir dans un jôôôôliii carnet d'aventures...
Tu peux affuter ta plume et ta souris... ça oui, tu peux te muscler les doigts, parce que va falloir en taper des compte-rendus... !
Tu as dû indexé ton cerveau avec Google Desktop...
Je n'ai fait que lire les discussions du 1er éventail ! ! 😊
Tu as mangé du poisson jour et nuit depuis ta tendre enfance...?
J'adore ! 😎
une mémoire d'éléphant...
J'avoue mais je l'aide souvent en archivant ce qui m'intéresse ! 🙂 😏
Ah ça... tu peux être sur que nous allons te haaaarceleeeeer à ton retour pour TOUUUUUUT savoir dans un jôôôôliii carnet d'aventures...
ça, cette idée m'a effleuré ... mais comme je ne m'y connais pas du tout en photo numérique et en informatique alors mieux vaut ne rien faire si ce n'est pas pour être au top !
Mais je serai là pour aider et ...pour réveiller la mémoire vive des copains 🙂 😎😇 😉
En attendant voici le canevas de notre voyage:
1 Francfort 21h40 Air Namibia
2 Windhoek 07h40 - Usakos Ameib Ranch
3 Twyfelfontein Xaragu Camp
4 Kamanjab Kamanjab rest camp
5 +6 Etosha Okaukuejo
7 Grootfontein Roy's Camp
8 Bagani-Mahango Ngepi camp
9 Kongola-Mudumu Kwando camp
10 Kasane Liya guest h.
11 a-r Vic Falls -Kasane Liya G.H
12 Kasane Water Lily lodge
13 Kasane Chobe safari lodge
14 Gweta Gweta lodge
15 Maun Okavango river lodge survol Delta
16+17+18+19 Bordure Moremi-South gate Kaziikini camp
20 Gobabis/Buitepos Zelda Guestfarm
21 Gamsberg pass Hakos Guestfarm
22 + 23 Walvis Bay Kleines Nest
24 +25 +26 chez nos amis près de Sossusvlei
27 Spreetshoogte Pass Camp Gecko
28 Windhoek - 21h vol retour
29 06h55 Francfort --> Home
...
mieux vaut ne rien faire si ce n'est pas pour être au top !
Ah la dictature de la perfection...😐
Si tu cherches la complexité de la vie, il y aussi la dictature du bonheur. Que faire si tu n y parviens pas...? 😕
Si tu veux faire un carnet, je pourrais t'aider. D'abord sur Word, puis .pdf, puis sur VF si tu veux...
On verra bien...
Ah enfin le trajet dans le détail... 😉😄
Merci Michèle pour ces partages et pour ton "encyclopédie" active.
Beau voyage qui fait envie en perspective. Bonne fin de préparation
Franck
Salut Franck !
Je n'aurais pas dû employer le terme "au top " mais plutôt qu'il soit bien ficelé , facile et agréable à consulter.
Si tu cherches la complexité de la vie, il y aussi la dictature du bonheur. Que faire si tu n y parviens pas...? 😕
Pas de soucis de ce côté 😎 , dans la vie j'essaie en général de placer le plus d'atouts possible et ça marche !
Même s'il y a une petite "floche" à un moment donné si le principal est atteint ...c'est le principal !
Si tu veux faire un carnet, je pourrais t'aider. D'abord sur Word, puis .pdf, puis sur VF si tu veux...
Bien sûr que je veux bien, c'est très gentil !
Word ? pour le texte plutôt que de faire un simple message car grâce à cela on peut glisser des photos , c'est ça , dis ?
Mais j'ai lu que pour placer des grandes photos dans un message celles-ci devaient être hébergées (tiens, c'est le même langage que dans le tourisme 🙂) dans un site particulier !
Or mes photos sont tout simplement dans Mes documents Mes images et sur" picasa normal".
Merci Michellle pour ces partages et pour ton "encyclopédie" active.
Normal en tant qu'instit ! Ouf, si c'est une encyclopédie "active" !🙂 😄
Echange de bons procédés avec toi et l'informatique !
Tu fais partie d'un SEL par hasard ? Moi pas mais je trouve ce système formidable !
Alors, à bientôt les cours après le retour du Maître (et de son élève ) si bien sûr ils ne se sont pas fait dévorer tout crus par une bête féroce ou ne se sont pas perdus dans les lianes de la jungle prrrofonde et mysssstérieuse ...🙂 😏
Scientifique d'Elite et Lettré😉
Service d'Elite Lucratif😛
Section d'Encouragements et de Louanges🙂
Savoir Ecrire et Lire😄
Succès Espoir et Liberté😏
Sans Espoir de Liberté😕
Savoir Ecouter les Lions 😮
Spécialiste de l'Embourbement à Linyanti 🤪
...bon j'arrête, c'est n'importe quoi....c'était ma minute de défoulement
S.E.L
Sauver les Elephants du Lodge
Sans Embarras de Location
Service Entretien Location
Sujet Epithète Locution
Suivre les Ecriteaux Livingstone
Simplicité Ecologie Liberté (on vote ce dimanche en Belgique !)
Splendeur Etoilée du Levant
Sucré Epicé Laqué
Soleil Exotisme Liberté
Soleil- Erotisme-Langueur 😊 et je m'arrête là ...😇
Salut !
Désolée 😊 😇 pour le mal de crâne🏴☠️ ... 🙂
Il s'agit d'un
Système d' Echange Local basé sur l' entr'aide
- http://fr.ekopedia.org/Système_d'échange_local ...
Un SEL est une structure associative déclarée ou libre qui permet aux adhérents de pratiquer des échanges multilatéraux valorisés en monnaie fictive et autonome (souvent basée sur le temps passé) au nom varié (grain de SEL, cacahuète, truffes, bouchons, noix de coco...), et des échanges libres (souvent à caractère de service plus qu'à caractère matériel). ...
Il est donc possible à tous les membres du système d'échanger des services au travers de cette nouvelle économie. Une personne pourra ainsi être créditée de 100 grains de SEL en gardant des enfants pendant une soirée avant d'aller les dépenser ailleurs en cours de guitare par exemple. La valeur d'un service est généralement dictée en fonction du temps qu'il nécessite. Il n'y aura ainsi pas de différence entre une heure de cours de maths et une heure de jardinage. ...
- http://www.yaqua.org/...lt.asp?V_DOC_ID=1273
Voilà, voilà !
Cela se pratique - d'après ce que j'ai pû en voir à la TV- entre des personnes d'un village, d'une région.
Franck s'inscrira pour donnera des cours d'informatique
Pinprenell peut-être pour des cours de pâtisserie 😉
Himba pour des cours de mécanique etc
et un tas d'autres pour l' oenologie 😄
liste non exhaustive...je ne connais pas les spécialités de chacun 🙂
A vous, si vous en connaissez d'autres...😇
Oui je m'en souviens et voilà ce que j'avais écrit :
"Nous quittons la ferme des Guépards. Ayant fait nos courses la veille à Kamanjab, nous décidons de prendre un raccourci et de ne pas descendre jusqu'à Outjo pour rejoindre Etosha. Selon nos hôtes, la piste est belle et on met sensiblement le même temps que par la route.
Nous empruntons donc la D2671 puis la D2695 et passons donc par Mondesir. Effectivement, la gravel road est très bonne et je suis sûr d’avoir gagné du temps. On rattrape la grande route et direction plein Nord : Etosha. "
Je me souviens que nous avons longé des minuscules hameaux. Pas de paysage particulier (de mémoire du type bush) mais en tout cas bien plus dépaysant et avec un "goût d'aventure" plus fort que sur la route goudronnée...
Merci pour ces précieuses infos! Et merci encore à Francky pour son aide dans l'installation de mapsource. Quel bel outil! Je note donc que nous passerons par la D2671 et D2695 pour aller de Hobatere Lodge à Okaukuejo. Je cherche encore d'autres filons que vous auriez postés sur des jolies routes/pistes à prendre qui collent à notre itinéraire. Si vous les connaissez par coeur, n"hésitez pas à m'en faire part. J'ai déjà noté la D707 .
Je débarque après avoir eu une notification de message et je vois que je vous ai lachés 🤪. Mince alors, il est vrai que je n'ai plus consulté le site depuis des lunes, pas bien ça. J'ai de bonnes excuses, mais je vais essayer de réparer tout ça.
Suis donc encore bien là 😛.
Salut !
J'ai bien fait de te "réveiller" un peu toi aussi !🙂
Du spleen ?
Pour la destination certainement !
Le retour vers ce post c'est juste de la fidélité mais je maintiens que c'est plus sérieux à présent 😕 !
Hi everyone!
I’m still planning my Cape Town to Johannesburg trip in January 2027.
I saw a documentary about the San people in Namibia, and the same day, I stumbled upon the Lonely Planet page about !Kwah Ttu.
I checked out their website to learn more, including Michel’s travel journal about it. I’m really keen to go.
So, I’m thinking of dedicating:
- either 1 day out of the 4.5 I have in Cape Town...
- or making a detour to !Kwah Ttu on the day I leave Cape Town for Montagu, instead of visiting Franschhoek and its Saturday market...
To the VFers who’ve already been: is it really worth spending a day there?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Malijp
Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM
4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing
5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?)
8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...)
9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?)
11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!)
13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure)
16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...)
18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP
21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!)
22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now...
I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments...
Can’t wait to be back there again!
We're heading to South Africa for a month with 5 adults.
We'd like to rent a vehicle that can accommodate 5 people and all our luggage.
We're starting in Cape Town and ending in Johannesburg.
What vehicle would you recommend?
EDITH
In Nov./Dec. 2022, I went on a safari in the region and we suffered from the extreme temperatures caused by the "El Niño" phenomenon in the Indian Ocean at that time. On top of the extreme heat, there can be torrential rains, flooding, etc., which have led to disasters with casualties.
Hi there,
I’m planning a gorilla trek in Bwindi, Uganda. I’m torn between the classic option (1 hour with the gorillas) and the habituation trek (4 hours with the gorillas but a more expensive permit). Has anyone done the habituation trek? Both? If so, I’d love to hear your feedback (including on the difficulty).
Thanks
Thirty years ago, I traveled to Zanzibar (Tanzania) with my children. Since I’ve since started a new family, I took the opportunity of a trip to Kenya to bring my new family along: my wife, who’s Kenyan, and my 10-year-old daughter.
Zanzibar has really changed in 30 years.
It’s become the island of taxes.
It all starts upon arrival: I think it’s the only country in the world, besides the visa, where Zanzibar insurance (and no other) is mandatory—it costs 40 €. If you didn’t purchase it before arriving, good luck getting it: the IT systems are unreliable. With a bit of luck, it’ll take at least an hour to process! And of course, this insurance is useless—if you get sick, it’s recommended to use your home country’s insurance because if you use Zanzibar’s, your national insurance won’t cover you anymore.
I wanted to show my daughter the red colobus monkey, which is endemic to Zanzibar. I paid for a tour that was supposed to be all-inclusive. First, we visited a spice farm, where a farm guide took charge of us—meaning commissions were involved, of course! The tour was very good and informative, though. When we arrived at Jenzhi Park (the colobus park), the guide told us he "forgot" there was an entrance fee (50$).
Aware of the system, I decided to book an Ocean Blue tour through the Zanzibar Tourism Office. After two hours of driving, we stopped at a beach—and were left there. No boat was ready to take us. Since my wife speaks Swahili (the language in Zanzibar), after an hour, a captain with his own boat agreed to take us along with his family.
Another attempt. The main attraction in Zanzibar (besides the city) is Changuu, the Prison Island. You have to take a motorboat and pay the captain, which is normal.
But in Zanzibar, to even get on a boat, you first have to pay a tax! Once we arrived at the island, it started all over again! Thirty years ago, access was free, and the entire island (about 1 km²) was open. Today, there’s a small office, and you have to pay a hefty fee to enter. But enter where? A paved path leads to about 15% of the island—the rest is off-limits. In total, I paid 100 € for my wife, daughter, and myself just to visit a tiny portion of the island! Avoid this!
For the rest of our stay, we stayed at a 5-star hotel with golf, horseback riding, tennis courts, evening concerts, etc.—undeniably high-level comfort. One last thing: if you want to rent a car, it’s affordable and useful for exploring the island’s diverse landscapes, but there are speed cameras at every corner on the main roads. The fine is supposedly 100 $, and it’s hard not to get one!
I told you: Zanzibar, the land of taxes. I used to think my country, Belgium, was the tax champion—I’ve found something even better!
I’ve read some travel journals here but I still have a question.
We’re heading to Uganda next February. The gorilla permits are booked, and the flight tickets are sorted too.
My question is about the chimpanzee trek. I’d love to know whether it’s better to book the habituation experience (4 hours) or the standard trek (1 hour).
The price difference isn’t huge, but I keep wondering and I’d hate to miss out on a great experience.
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
We're now just 5 weeks away from our trip to South Africa 🙂 and *so* excited to explore (just a tiny bit of) this amazing country.
I need to buy some binoculars but have no idea which model to choose. I don’t really know what to look for (and I don’t want to spend too much).
Thanks in advance to anyone who can give me some tips!
We just got back from ten days in Tanzania. We were lucky enough to be guided by Gishaman. Always in a great mood, a good driver, and an excellent guide. Thanks to him, we not only saw the Big Five in one day but also loads of other animals. He works for the local agency Blit Safaris, which provided excellent support throughout our trip. Highly recommended!
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes.
I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks).
Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate.
Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross.
Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head.
Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes:
Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek?
At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge?
There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls.
I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions.
I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali.
Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha.
I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4.
Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy