Merci Cordialement
S'installer et travailler en Suisse
by GTK
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour
J'envisage partir bien tôt en Suisse pour m'installer et travailler dans sécurité
(Lausanne ou Genève )
J'aimerais savoir plus sur ca et infos plus récentes que forums année 2000
Merci Cordialement
Merci Cordialement
De quoi LOL??? Ce n'est pas une blague!!! Si on n'a pas une spécialité ou un diplôme à valeur ajoutée, ni une adresse en Suisse, c'est quasiment impossible de trouver un travail.
Demandez à des membres helvètes ou consultez d'autres posts sur le sujet, si vous pensez que je vous raconte des bêtises.
Demandez à des membres helvètes ou consultez d'autres posts sur le sujet, si vous pensez que je vous raconte des bêtises.
Pas simple en effet. Dans mon cas, Français avec une maman suisse et une société dont j'étais un des associés cela n'a pas été possible de m'installer en Suisse.
Georges G.
(Mes commentaires et mes photos sont issus de mon vécu réel,
mes peintures, elles, de mes souvenirs fantasmés)
Non, mais la plonge, oubliez, vous 'arriverez jamais à joindre les deux bouts.
La colocation et les chambres chez l'habitant sont surtout pour les étudiants. Genève est une ville extrêmement chère. Celà dit, comme agent de sécurité, vous pouvez avoir des horaires décalés, ça peut être valable d'être frontalier, sans les inconvénients des heures de pointe.
Mais il faut d'abord trouver un travail...
La colocation et les chambres chez l'habitant sont surtout pour les étudiants. Genève est une ville extrêmement chère. Celà dit, comme agent de sécurité, vous pouvez avoir des horaires décalés, ça peut être valable d'être frontalier, sans les inconvénients des heures de pointe.
Mais il faut d'abord trouver un travail...
Depuis 2002, les non-UE ne peuvent venir en Suisse que s'ils ont une valeur ajoutée sur leur CV ou leur diplôme. Puis, ce fut au tour des européens, car avec la crise, tous le monde a voulu venir bosser en Suisse au détriment des résidents.
Pour les roumains, bulgares, roumains et compagnie, c'est comme les polonais chez nous. Ils sont employés car ils coûtent moins cher et dorment à quatre dans un studio. Ou sont venus d'eux-mêmes, mais galèrent et doivent là aussi, se loger à plusieurs.
Pour les roumains, bulgares, roumains et compagnie, c'est comme les polonais chez nous. Ils sont employés car ils coûtent moins cher et dorment à quatre dans un studio. Ou sont venus d'eux-mêmes, mais galèrent et doivent là aussi, se loger à plusieurs.
J'aime Suisse (paysages!!!)
ça ne nourrit pas son homme
Je vais tenté comme même de m'installer et trouver un travail sans diplôme même mal payé
Pour venir te plaindre ensuite que la vie est trop chère en Suisse ?! 😠
De toute façon, on ne s'installe pas comme ça ici. On commence par un contrat de travail, un permis de séjour et ensuite on peut chercher un logement. Et vu la crise du logement, ça c'est encore une autre histoire.
Ah oui j'oubliais, accessoirement à Lausanne et Genève on parle français, correctement.
ça ne nourrit pas son homme
Je vais tenté comme même de m'installer et trouver un travail sans diplôme même mal payé
Pour venir te plaindre ensuite que la vie est trop chère en Suisse ?! 😠
De toute façon, on ne s'installe pas comme ça ici. On commence par un contrat de travail, un permis de séjour et ensuite on peut chercher un logement. Et vu la crise du logement, ça c'est encore une autre histoire.
Ah oui j'oubliais, accessoirement à Lausanne et Genève on parle français, correctement.
Faby
3 je commence par logement , contrat, permis B
Personne ne te louera un logement, sans permis de séjour ni contrat de travail.
Personne ne te louera un logement, sans permis de séjour ni contrat de travail.
Faby
Bonjour,
C'est voué à l'échec...
Les procédures d'engagement pour les domaines de la sécurité exigent de nombreux documents (extrait casier judiciaire, poursuite, etc....), et un permis C pour la plupart.
De plus, il s'agit souvent de contrat à l'heure, sans revenu fixe au mois. Et sachant qu'il n'y a pas de SMIC en Suisse, votre salaire sera insuffisant pour vivre seul en terres helvètes.
Je ne sais pas quel âge vous avez, mais mieux vaut entreprendre une formation et obtenir un diplôme avant de penser à une expatriation.
Si tu penses que les proprios sont plus cool que les gérances, tu risques d'avoir de grosses surprises. Depuis plusieurs années il y a une grosse pénurie de logements sur tout l'arc lémanique, les proprios n'ont donc que l'embarras du choix pour louer leur bien. Ils n'ont donc absolument aucune raison de se mettre dans l'illégalité et ni de prendre des risques en louant à une personne qui n'aurait pas de permis de séjour, ou un salaire qu'ils estiment trop bas.
Faby
Tu as posé une question, on te répond. Si les réponses ne sont pas celles que tu attendais, on n'y peut rien.
On en viendrait même à se demander pourquoi tu as posé des questions, alors que tu réfutes toutes nos réponses.
Ce sera donc tout pour moi sur ce sujet.
On en viendrait même à se demander pourquoi tu as posé des questions, alors que tu réfutes toutes nos réponses.
Ce sera donc tout pour moi sur ce sujet.
Faby
Rien ne dit que tu trouveras un emploi au bout de trois mois!!! Comme on te l'as dit, le marché est bloqué par les suisses. De plus, Genève est une ville extrêmement chère, pas sûre que tu tiennent six mois avec tes économies. Oui, tu pourras prolonger de trois mois en t'inscrivant au Pôle-Emploi suisse et en prouvant que tu recherches activement un travail mais sache que tu dois te déclarer à la commune dès ton arrivée.
Et je me demande si au bout des trois mois, dans l'idée qu'on te prolonge de trois mois, (plus, c'est impossible sans job), tu ne devras pas payer certaines taxes, sécu, mutuelles, taxe de voiture, etc... Sur place. Et là, sans boulot, tu vas vraiment ramer mon gars!!!
Tu ne réalises aucunement le coût et la difficulté de s'installer et de trouver un emploi en Suisse. Plusieurs, dont moi, ont abandonné l'idée pour l'instant car c'est la galère!!! Ne pense pas que la Suisse est un Eldorado où les étrangers ne payent pas d'impôts!!!
Et je me demande si au bout des trois mois, dans l'idée qu'on te prolonge de trois mois, (plus, c'est impossible sans job), tu ne devras pas payer certaines taxes, sécu, mutuelles, taxe de voiture, etc... Sur place. Et là, sans boulot, tu vas vraiment ramer mon gars!!!
Tu ne réalises aucunement le coût et la difficulté de s'installer et de trouver un emploi en Suisse. Plusieurs, dont moi, ont abandonné l'idée pour l'instant car c'est la galère!!! Ne pense pas que la Suisse est un Eldorado où les étrangers ne payent pas d'impôts!!!
Bonjour, j'adore c *style*, merci Stéphanie
Oui, je suis 1 phénomène très intéressant 😉
C ne pas Eldorado q m'intéresse, si j'arrive au bout de mois à "0", c déjà pas mal
Avec mes économies je peux tenir plus que 6 mois
Et oui, c'est la galère , mais il faut galeré pour arrivé au but
"mon gars!!!" ?hmm intéressant !?lol
"mon gars!!!" ?hmm intéressant !?lol
Si on considère la teneur de ses propos, cette hypothèse serait encore la plus rassurante... 😏
Faby
En Suisse, la principale difficulté, pour un étranger, consiste à obtenir le permis C et trouver un travail légal.
Mais ensuite, en maîtrisant bien tes dépenses (colocation, pas de véhicule personnel, etc.), tu peux vivre pour à peine 1500 francs par mois (sans doute un peu plus sur l'Arc lémanique).
Même les boulots (officiels... j'insiste!) les plus mal payés (ceux que les Suisses ne veulent pas faire) rapportent davantage.
Mais ensuite, en maîtrisant bien tes dépenses (colocation, pas de véhicule personnel, etc.), tu peux vivre pour à peine 1500 francs par mois (sans doute un peu plus sur l'Arc lémanique).
Même les boulots (officiels... j'insiste!) les plus mal payés (ceux que les Suisses ne veulent pas faire) rapportent davantage.
Si on peut vivre pour 1500 francs à Fribourg (en plein centre-ville), on doit pouvoir s'en sortir pour 2000 francs au bord du Léman. Finalement, seul le logement est vraiment plus cher et ça passe mieux en colocation.
Evidemment, c'est un minimum et il vaut mieux avoir un peu de marge!
Evidemment, c'est un minimum et il vaut mieux avoir un peu de marge!
Mais ensuite, en maîtrisant bien tes dépenses (colocation, pas de véhicule personnel, etc.), tu peux vivre pour à peine 1500 francs par mois (sans doute un peu plus sur l'Arc lémanique).
Un solde de 1500.- après avoir payé toutes tes factures, tes impôts, ton assurance maladie et tous tes autres frais fixes j'imagine ?!
Un solde de 1500.- après avoir payé toutes tes factures, tes impôts, ton assurance maladie et tous tes autres frais fixes j'imagine ?!
Faby
Non non, 1500 francs au total: 500 pour une chambre (avec électricité, chauffage, internet, Billag, assurance ménage), 350 pour l'alimentation, 230 pour l'assurance maladie et 100 pour les impôts (en supposant un bas salaire!). Il reste 320 francs pour les loisirs/vacances, la téléphonie mobile, la mobilité et l'achat de vêtements.
A vrai dire, je connais quelqu'un qui vit avec 1300 francs par mois à Fribourg (chambre à 350 francs). Il faut oublier les bons restos et les achats non réfléchis, mais c'est possible.
A vrai dire, je connais quelqu'un qui vit avec 1300 francs par mois à Fribourg (chambre à 350 francs). Il faut oublier les bons restos et les achats non réfléchis, mais c'est possible.
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So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
I’m an osteopath and I’d like to set up and open an osteopathy practice in Thailand. I don’t have a precise location in mind yet, but I’m thinking maybe Hua Hin. I saw there’s an osteopath based in Phuket, so I wrote to him for some info, but he still hasn’t replied🤪!
So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
Hello everyone,
We’re a small family from the south of France, with a 2-year-old little boy, and we’re dreaming of starting a new adventure abroad by opening our own business. For now, we haven’t chosen a specific destination yet.
We mainly speak French, with a basic level of Spanish and English, and we’re ready to improve these two languages if needed. We’re looking for a multicultural, safe country with quality healthcare and good schools accessible for our son. We’d also love a pleasant place with a mild climate where life is good.
Our idea is to travel to different countries to explore, compare, and refine our project. We’d be really happy to read your tips, experiences, or anecdotes if you’ve already undertaken a similar project or if you know key points to anticipate.
Thanks in advance for your shares and help—it would really help us move forward with our project! 😄
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Dublin as an au pair in a few weeks.
I’m looking for a reputable language school. It’s so hard to choose! Has anyone already done a language stay in Dublin? Any tips? Thanks so much! :)
Hi everyone, so I’m planning to go study at a community college in the U.S., but the only snag is which one—there are so many options over there! I’ve heard about one in California, Diablo Valley College, and another in Florida, Valencia College. I know both states are super attractive for tourism, but my main criteria are teaching quality and price. I’m open to any advice, comments, or suggestions—thanks in advance! The start of the semester is coming up, and I’m a little nervous...
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Has anyone gone on a language study trip in Europe? If so, which agencies did you use? What can you tell me about it? Thanks a lot! Kelkune
Has anyone gone on a language study trip in Europe? If so, which agencies did you use? What can you tell me about it? Thanks a lot! Kelkune
Hi! I’m looking for an apartment in Malaga from September (2025) until January for my Erasmus exchange, but I’m not finding much, and it seems like there are a lot of scams. Does anyone have any leads or tips? Thanks!^^






