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Sahara algérien: eau, sac de couchage et pourboires?
by Ballanais
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous,
1/Est-il obligatoire d'ajouter un produit(micropur...) pour purifier l'eau à boire puisée ds le Sahara algérien ?
2/Un bon sac de couchage suffit-il pour les nuits ds les tassilis Hoggar (période du 18 au 25/novembre) ?
3/Pourboires : Faut-il en donner au personnels d'accompagnement des groupes de touristes ?
Merci par avance de vos réponses.
Merci par avance de vos réponses.
BALLANAIS
l'eau quon utilise dans les circuits est en général de bonne qualité, pas besoin de micropur. sauf si tu fais un treck avec des chameaux, il peut arriver selon la cas qu'on prenne de l'eau dans les gueltas mais en dernier ressort pour la boisson.
fin novembre les nuits ne sont pas encore glaciales, un bon duvet devrait faire l'affaire.
quant aux pourboires, aucune obligation, tout est question d'ambiance et de contact. si tu t'es senti bien et que tu as bien accroché avec ton guide, ton cuisto et le reste du staff, un pourboire fera toujours plaisir. (les salaires ne sont pas toujours bien elevés alors ça aide les gens, même si c'est dix ou vingt euros)
bon voyage
Sidi
Juste une info, il fait très froid en ce moment dans le Sahara la nuit ! Un bon sac de couchage et un jogging feront l'affaire !
Pourboires, oui, si tout s'est bien passé et si tu es content ! Normal !!!!!!!!!!!
L'eau des gueltas est à consommer avec une grande prudence, et surtout pas sans produit !
Bon voyage !
PS Le sahara ne se limite pas à l'extrême sud, le Grand Erg Occidental et Oriental (les grandes dunes) s'offrent à vous dans le centre sud de l'Algérie !
LILI
Pourboires, oui, si tout s'est bien passé et si tu es content ! Normal !!!!!!!!!!!
L'eau des gueltas est à consommer avec une grande prudence, et surtout pas sans produit !
Bon voyage !
PS Le sahara ne se limite pas à l'extrême sud, le Grand Erg Occidental et Oriental (les grandes dunes) s'offrent à vous dans le centre sud de l'Algérie !
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Slt, pour l'eau en général elle est de bonne qualité, de toute facon les guides en savent quelques chose. C'est une région qui n'est pas pollué donc moins de risque.
Pour les nuits, moi j'ai fais des nuits ds le hoggar et le Tassili durant le mois de Décembre, on avait pas de bon sac de couchage, on a été obligé de rajouter des couvertures il fait frais certes même froid (ca descends jusqu'a - 10 la nuit ) mais avec un bon feux de camp et le beau ciel étoilé wellah c'est magnifique!!!!Tu n'auras pas de problème avec du bon matériel..et un bon remontant.
Qd au pourboire, vu les temps difficiles ca fera surement plaisir au guides qui en général font du bon boulot!!! Bon voyage
J'ai fait l'année dernière un trek du coté de Djanet (Tadrart) et je ne saurai te conseiller que de prendre du micropur et de ne boire que de l'eau micropurée (même pour te laver les dents).
C' est ce que j'ai fait et je n'ai pas été malade. Tout ceux qui ne le faisaient pas ont eu une bonne tourista bien chargée. (on les voyaient d'un coup disparaitre derrière une dune...).😏
Nous étions dans un avions affrété par Point Afrique pour tous les orgnsme de voyage type Nomade Aventure, Terre d'av, etc. Tous les passagers avaient fait un trek à pied, en 4*4 ou en chameau et il y avait la queue aux toilettes dans l'avion! Comme dans tous les pays du Maghreb, l'eau est potable mais pour toi européen habitué à l'eau du robinet traitée, ce n'est pas la même chose, même si les "locaux" la boive sans problème.
Autre conseil, souvent, les repas dans le désert le midi sont des salades de crudités. Evite les feuilles de salade (lavées à l'eau) et la sauce (quelqu'elle soit). Pour le thé (bouilli) et les aliments cuits (couscous, etc), pas de problème en revanche.
Il suffit d'une fois ça ne pardonne pas et c'est très désagréable! Ne pas lacher la vigilance surtout en fin de séjour quand on commence à prendre la confiance. 🙂
C' est ce que j'ai fait et je n'ai pas été malade. Tout ceux qui ne le faisaient pas ont eu une bonne tourista bien chargée. (on les voyaient d'un coup disparaitre derrière une dune...).😏
Nous étions dans un avions affrété par Point Afrique pour tous les orgnsme de voyage type Nomade Aventure, Terre d'av, etc. Tous les passagers avaient fait un trek à pied, en 4*4 ou en chameau et il y avait la queue aux toilettes dans l'avion! Comme dans tous les pays du Maghreb, l'eau est potable mais pour toi européen habitué à l'eau du robinet traitée, ce n'est pas la même chose, même si les "locaux" la boive sans problème.
Autre conseil, souvent, les repas dans le désert le midi sont des salades de crudités. Evite les feuilles de salade (lavées à l'eau) et la sauce (quelqu'elle soit). Pour le thé (bouilli) et les aliments cuits (couscous, etc), pas de problème en revanche.
Il suffit d'une fois ça ne pardonne pas et c'est très désagréable! Ne pas lacher la vigilance surtout en fin de séjour quand on commence à prendre la confiance. 🙂
Je voudrais quand même donner des précisions sur l'histoire de l'eau potable ! L'eau du robinet dans les villes est traitée et de bonne qualité (selon les endroits - parfois saumatre) donc pas de risques ! Le pb des infections est souvent dû aux mains !!!!!!
Dans le désert, il faut désinfecter l'eau des gueltas, puisque c'est le même eau qui est bu par les animaux qui pataugent dedans quand ils ont l'occasion, sans parler des personnes qui en profitent pour faire un plongeon dasn certains !
L'eau minérale est partout d'excellente qualité - à El Golea, on se lave et on boit tous les jours au robinet de l'eau de qualité minérale qui n'a rien à envier à VOLVIC ou EVIAN !
LILI
Dans le désert, il faut désinfecter l'eau des gueltas, puisque c'est le même eau qui est bu par les animaux qui pataugent dedans quand ils ont l'occasion, sans parler des personnes qui en profitent pour faire un plongeon dasn certains !
L'eau minérale est partout d'excellente qualité - à El Golea, on se lave et on boit tous les jours au robinet de l'eau de qualité minérale qui n'a rien à envier à VOLVIC ou EVIAN !
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Bonsoir, J'y ai été à toutes les saisons, été, hiver, printemps et automne et je n'ai jamais été malade au Sahara algérien et je n'ai jamais fait trop attention. Si l'eau est puisée effectivement il vaut mieux mettre du micropur, sinon, les guides savent parfaitement ce qu'on peut boire ou pas. Ceci dit, il vaut mieux en prendre au cas ou. En novembre, un bon sac de couchage et éventuellement un sursac: quand il fait froid, c'est quelque chose!! (je vous suggére de regarder la meteo sur Yahoo avant de partir - Djanet ou Tamanrasset, cela vous donnera une idée de la température nocturne) Oui pour le pourboire, 10 à 20 euros par randonneur et ne pas oublier les petits cadeaux à laisser à l'équipe qui vous aura accompagné: briquets, piles, vêtements chauds que vous n'utilisez-plus ( la polaire est une denrée rare là-bas, ..) ( j'y étais il y a 15 jours et le chamelier qui nous accompagnait est venu me demander mon paquet de coton!)Bon voyage!
Marie
Marie
bonjour
quel genre de petit cadeaux ( ou cadeaux utiles ) est apprécié des touarègues.je pars prochainement du coté de Djanet
j'avais lu que le cafe ( nescafé) est apprécié en plus de petites attentions pour Mesdames touarègues élégantes - on est très limité par l'avion
merci
ORIENTISSIME
le vêtement ne sert pas qu'à vétir, sur ces terres du Sud, à recouvrir ou à voiler: il montre, révèle, dévoile plus encore.
Jacques Lacarrière Sourates
* -*
oui pourquoi du nescafé sauf qu'à Djanet on en trouve du café ais pourquoi pas? . sinon succès garanti pour chocolat et fromage (type pates dures, comté, parmesan, mimolette ...) et pour les dames, elles apprécient des cremes pour les mains : un bon truc à emmener qui sert à tous et à pleins de trucs de la creme DEXERYL (Pierre Fabre) se trouve en pharmacie, ça coute dans les 4 euros pour une grand tube et ça sert : pour les bébés, les mains abimés des femmes qui travaillent ENORMEMENT et aussi les monsieurs d'ailleurs. non vraiment moi j'en apporte à chaque fois et ça fait bien plaisir en plus d'etre utile.
sinon si tu connais la bas des femmes touaregues : encore un truc qui sert beaucoup pour les mariages et les grandes occasion comme pour le quotidien ; des éponges gratte gratte en métal (des boules) pour récurer les grosses couscoussieres qui accrochent. à djanet ces boules ne sont pas de bonnes qualités et s'usent tout de suite donc ça c'est un cadeau utile aussi. voila quelques tuyaux ... bon voyage tu pars quand? tu fais un trek la bas?
Merci pour les infos - pour la crème j'ai déjà prévu, (enfin une autre marque similaire) c'est déjà dans mon sac - je vais rajouter le + utile, les éponges métalliques pour casseroles ok
et qques petites attentions agreables pour les épouses et enfants - petit sac, tissu.
nous partons le 6 mars et je vois que la journée ns pouvons avoir dans les 30 degres, est ce que cela correspond bien?
et ns allons directement sur le lieu de bivouac au sortir de l'avion - nous n'aurons pas le temps d'aller chercher qques cheches, donc il faut que je prévois tout cela car le look occidental bermuda + casquettes et platra de crème est épouvantable -quelle inélégance !
enfin comme on dit à lyon, tout le monde y peut pas être de lyon - et donc tout le monde ne peut pas être KEL TAGELMOUST -
je le serai pour quelques jours !!
je continue à préparer le sac
encore Merci
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* *** de nouveau eprouver le plaisir indicible de se sentir au seuil d'un grand apprentissage **** tjrs de J Lacarrière
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I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu




