Merci beaucoup !
Situation actuelle en Thaïlande (janvier 2014)
by Aurelie313
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
J'ai 24 ans et je pars toute seule en Asie pour 3 mois et demi. J'atterrie à Bangkok le 24 janvier prochain. Je prévoyais y rester 3 jours. J'aimerais avoir des commentaires sur la situation actuelle. Est-ce que c'est trop dangereux ? Y a-t-il des risques de guerre civile ? Destination à éviter ? Serais-je mieux de partir le jour même (le 24 janvier) pour le sud ou le nord de la Thailande? Est-ce que les transports sont affectés dans tout le pays ou seulement à Bangkok ?
Je sais qu'il y a déjà un fil de discussion sur ce sujet, mais la conversation semble avoir largement divaguée et il est difficile d'avoir des informations sur la situation réelle actuelle (non des avis sur la politique).
Merci beaucoup !
Merci beaucoup !
Bonsoir Aurélie,
Je pars demain matin et crois-moi, en plus de la situation pour les vols aux États-Unis, on doit s'inquiéter pour la situation en Thailande et aux alentours. On a parlé du 13 janvier pour un blocage assez général, transports, banques, commerces, etc...Je suis allée regarder ce que l'Ambassade disait et pour le moment on ne parle que d'être très prudent et d'éviter certaines régions près des frontières, Cambodge, etc... Tu peux aller voir sur le site. Je dois rester 3 nuits à BKK et ensuite je pars pour Chian Mai.
Peut-être y aura t'il quelqu'un qui est présentement sur place qui nous donnera l'heure juste.
Bon voyage à toi!
Je pars demain matin et crois-moi, en plus de la situation pour les vols aux États-Unis, on doit s'inquiéter pour la situation en Thailande et aux alentours. On a parlé du 13 janvier pour un blocage assez général, transports, banques, commerces, etc...Je suis allée regarder ce que l'Ambassade disait et pour le moment on ne parle que d'être très prudent et d'éviter certaines régions près des frontières, Cambodge, etc... Tu peux aller voir sur le site. Je dois rester 3 nuits à BKK et ensuite je pars pour Chian Mai.
Peut-être y aura t'il quelqu'un qui est présentement sur place qui nous donnera l'heure juste.
Bon voyage à toi!
France
Hello,
Bangkok, je ne sais pas, mais à priori certains endroits sont bien occupés, suffit de les eviter.
Pour le reste du pays, notamment le nord, pas de soucis. Il se peut qu'il y ait une reaction des rouges à CM ville dans le futur mais rien de garanti. Le reste de la province, la vie suit son cours habituel.
Pas de raison de ne pas venir, du moins pour l'instant...
Bon séjour
Il voulait lui donner des fleurs, mais comme il n'y a pas de fleurs sur l'île, il lui a donné l'argent des fleurs
Je sais qu'il y a déjà un fil de discussion sur ce sujet, mais la conversation semble avoir largement divaguée et il est difficile d'avoir des informations sur la situation réelle actuelle (non des avis sur la politique).
Sawadee krap Pas la patience de suivre un topic ? Pourtant il y à des infos très pertinentes, comme ce jour:
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6344756#6344756
Personne ne peut dire comment la situation va évoluer d'un jour a l'autre
Et dissocier la politique des événements a venir est un non sens
Sawadee krap Pas la patience de suivre un topic ? Pourtant il y à des infos très pertinentes, comme ce jour:
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6344756#6344756
Personne ne peut dire comment la situation va évoluer d'un jour a l'autre
Et dissocier la politique des événements a venir est un non sens
Bonsoir,
Merci beaucoup pour votre réponse! Bien sûr, il n'est pas question de ne pas venir! J'ai 3 transferts d'avion à faire en passant par les États-Unis et ensuite Tokyo et en ce moment il fait à certains endroits aux USA -50. Plusieurs vols sont annulés, reportés, aéroports fermés.
C'est mon cinquième voyage en Asie du sud-est et j'ai toujours très hâte de m'y retrouver.
Amicalement, France
Merci beaucoup pour votre réponse! Bien sûr, il n'est pas question de ne pas venir! J'ai 3 transferts d'avion à faire en passant par les États-Unis et ensuite Tokyo et en ce moment il fait à certains endroits aux USA -50. Plusieurs vols sont annulés, reportés, aéroports fermés.
C'est mon cinquième voyage en Asie du sud-est et j'ai toujours très hâte de m'y retrouver.
Amicalement, France
France
Bonjour
Oui enfin je suis le post depuis un moment et je suis un peu d'accord c'est quelques fois un peu lourd mais bon il y a aussi des informations. Les appréciations politiques sur le sujet je m'en garderais bien. Pour être restés pas mal de temps en France les manifestations nous avons un peu l'habitude, les blocages etc... les grèves des transports enfin tout le truc.... bon cependant la thailand ce n'est pas la france... cela n'empêche que personne ne sait ce qui va se passer... Sur les posts c'est assez simple les gens recherchent des informations sur le quotidien, informations assez basiques d'ailleurs.. dans le style je suis à BKK. j'ai pris le City Line ce matin sans problème il est maintenant 11 am et je vais prendre le train pour Chan Mai. et tout cela en temps réel bonne journée
Oui enfin je suis le post depuis un moment et je suis un peu d'accord c'est quelques fois un peu lourd mais bon il y a aussi des informations. Les appréciations politiques sur le sujet je m'en garderais bien. Pour être restés pas mal de temps en France les manifestations nous avons un peu l'habitude, les blocages etc... les grèves des transports enfin tout le truc.... bon cependant la thailand ce n'est pas la france... cela n'empêche que personne ne sait ce qui va se passer... Sur les posts c'est assez simple les gens recherchent des informations sur le quotidien, informations assez basiques d'ailleurs.. dans le style je suis à BKK. j'ai pris le City Line ce matin sans problème il est maintenant 11 am et je vais prendre le train pour Chan Mai. et tout cela en temps réel bonne journée
Bonjour Aurélie,
Je pars dans une semaine pour trois mois en Asie du Sud-Est et j'atterris moi aussi à Bangkok. Je te comprends de t'inquiéter, c'est mon cas aussi.
Il y a effectivement un « Bangkok Shutdown » de prévu dès le 13 janvier, qui est prévu pour durer de 5 à 20 jours « ou jusqu'à résolution du conflit ». Il va y avoir des « scènes » érigées pour bloquer la circulation (sauf bus publics et ambulances, dit-on) à 20 intersections majeures de Bangkok, pour paralyser la circulation et donc les activités dans la ville afin de mettre de la pression sur le gouvernement. Les manifestants promettent de faire ça pacifiquement, mais dans les faits, on ne sait pas du tout comment ça va virer, surtout si les chemises rouges (les sympathisants du régime) décident de descendre sur Bangkok (ils sont plus concentrés dans les provinces du Nord) pour s'opposer aux manifestants. Il y a effectivement eu des rumeurs de guerre civile et des rumeurs de coup d'état.
Le 24 janvier, ça pourrait être le vrai bordel et ça pourrait tout aussi bien s'être stabilisé. Franchement, la situation évolue d'heure en heure depuis plusieurs semaines et je te conseille de faire la paix avec l'incertitude.
En ce qui me concerne (et c'est ce que je te propose pour retrouver la tranquillité d'esprit jusqu'à ton départ), j'ai réservé un hôtel pour six nuits en plein Bangkok et j'ai l'intention d'y aller si c'est sécuritaire et agréable. J'ai cependant aussi réservé une seule nuit dans un hôtel tout près de l'aéroport auquel j'arrive (il y a plusieurs hôtels avec des chambres entre 20 et 30$ tout autour des deux aéroports de Bangkok). Si, à mon arrivée (en pleine nuit), aucun taxi ne veut m’emmener à mon hôtel en ville à cause du shutdown, j'irai simplement à mon hôtel tout à côté de l'aéroport pour une bonne nuit de sommeil (si j'arrive à aller à l'hôtel en ville, je perdrai mes 24$, ce qui vaut bien la tranquillité que m'offre ce plan b). Le lendemain, j'essaierai à nouveau de me rendre en ville, en transports en commun cette fois (en skytrain, depuis l'aéroport jusqu'au centre-ville). Si la ville semble trop chaotique, il y a, de chacun des deux aéroports, plusieurs vols tous les jours, souvent à moins de 100$, pour de très nombreuses villes en Thaïlande et dans les pays voisins. De là, j'irai directement à ma destination suivante.
Cette solution offre une certaine flexibilité et la possibilité de payer un deuxième hôtel pour une nuit + un billet d'avion interne entre deux villes en Thaïlande est très certainement moins couteuse que celle de changer ton billet de Montréal vers l'Asie.
Bon préparatifs et bon voyage!
Alexie
PS: Si tu as Twitter, je te conseille vivement de suivre Richard Barrow, qui est sur place et qui tweet des informations extrêmement utiles à toutes les 5 minutes, environ 18 heures par jour. Je crois qu'il a aussi Facebook et un blog.
Je pars dans une semaine pour trois mois en Asie du Sud-Est et j'atterris moi aussi à Bangkok. Je te comprends de t'inquiéter, c'est mon cas aussi.
Il y a effectivement un « Bangkok Shutdown » de prévu dès le 13 janvier, qui est prévu pour durer de 5 à 20 jours « ou jusqu'à résolution du conflit ». Il va y avoir des « scènes » érigées pour bloquer la circulation (sauf bus publics et ambulances, dit-on) à 20 intersections majeures de Bangkok, pour paralyser la circulation et donc les activités dans la ville afin de mettre de la pression sur le gouvernement. Les manifestants promettent de faire ça pacifiquement, mais dans les faits, on ne sait pas du tout comment ça va virer, surtout si les chemises rouges (les sympathisants du régime) décident de descendre sur Bangkok (ils sont plus concentrés dans les provinces du Nord) pour s'opposer aux manifestants. Il y a effectivement eu des rumeurs de guerre civile et des rumeurs de coup d'état.
Le 24 janvier, ça pourrait être le vrai bordel et ça pourrait tout aussi bien s'être stabilisé. Franchement, la situation évolue d'heure en heure depuis plusieurs semaines et je te conseille de faire la paix avec l'incertitude.
En ce qui me concerne (et c'est ce que je te propose pour retrouver la tranquillité d'esprit jusqu'à ton départ), j'ai réservé un hôtel pour six nuits en plein Bangkok et j'ai l'intention d'y aller si c'est sécuritaire et agréable. J'ai cependant aussi réservé une seule nuit dans un hôtel tout près de l'aéroport auquel j'arrive (il y a plusieurs hôtels avec des chambres entre 20 et 30$ tout autour des deux aéroports de Bangkok). Si, à mon arrivée (en pleine nuit), aucun taxi ne veut m’emmener à mon hôtel en ville à cause du shutdown, j'irai simplement à mon hôtel tout à côté de l'aéroport pour une bonne nuit de sommeil (si j'arrive à aller à l'hôtel en ville, je perdrai mes 24$, ce qui vaut bien la tranquillité que m'offre ce plan b). Le lendemain, j'essaierai à nouveau de me rendre en ville, en transports en commun cette fois (en skytrain, depuis l'aéroport jusqu'au centre-ville). Si la ville semble trop chaotique, il y a, de chacun des deux aéroports, plusieurs vols tous les jours, souvent à moins de 100$, pour de très nombreuses villes en Thaïlande et dans les pays voisins. De là, j'irai directement à ma destination suivante.
Cette solution offre une certaine flexibilité et la possibilité de payer un deuxième hôtel pour une nuit + un billet d'avion interne entre deux villes en Thaïlande est très certainement moins couteuse que celle de changer ton billet de Montréal vers l'Asie.
Bon préparatifs et bon voyage!
Alexie
PS: Si tu as Twitter, je te conseille vivement de suivre Richard Barrow, qui est sur place et qui tweet des informations extrêmement utiles à toutes les 5 minutes, environ 18 heures par jour. Je crois qu'il a aussi Facebook et un blog.
Bonsoir
Nous venons de recevoir par sms un avertissement du ministère des affaires étrangères concernant les manifestations du 13 JANVIER à Bangkok. Traditionnel texte demandant d'éviter Bangkok et d'éviter les déplacements non nécessaire.
Nous venons de recevoir par sms un avertissement du ministère des affaires étrangères concernant les manifestations du 13 JANVIER à Bangkok. Traditionnel texte demandant d'éviter Bangkok et d'éviter les déplacements non nécessaire.
J'étais à Bangkok la semaine dernière, et il n'y avait strictement rien, du moins dans les quartiers que j'ai visité.
J'ai également vu le message du ministère des affaires étrangères, cela va sûrement être un peu plus sérieux le 13 mais de là à savoir comment la situation va avancer.. En tout cas il n'y avait aucun problème là bas quand j'y étais.
J'ai également vu le message du ministère des affaires étrangères, cela va sûrement être un peu plus sérieux le 13 mais de là à savoir comment la situation va avancer.. En tout cas il n'y avait aucun problème là bas quand j'y étais.
Merci beaucoup à tous pour vos réponses !
Alexie, merci pour ta réponse! C'est une bonne idée de réserver un hôtel près de l'aéroport. Je crois que je ferai la même chose.
Alexie, merci pour ta réponse! C'est une bonne idée de réserver un hôtel près de l'aéroport. Je crois que je ferai la même chose.
Contente que ça t'aide! 🙂
Salut !
je comprends que tu sois inquiète, mais pourquoi créer un nouveau sujet ? Il me semble que ceux existants depuis pas mal de temps donnent des infos presque au jour le jour, même si quelques digressions - humoristiques quelques fois - viennent compléter les échanges. 😉
je comprends que tu sois inquiète, mais pourquoi créer un nouveau sujet ? Il me semble que ceux existants depuis pas mal de temps donnent des infos presque au jour le jour, même si quelques digressions - humoristiques quelques fois - viennent compléter les échanges. 😉
Je ne trouve pas que les digressions "humoristiques" complètent les échanges. Quelques un(e)s se pensent un peu trop supérieurs aux autres. S'il vous plait, un peu d'humilité, ce forum me semble dégénérer. Nous ne sommes pas sur place, et il est normal que nous nous inquiétions!
ghinaine
Bonjour Aurélie,
je suis arrivé en Thailande le 3/01 après avoir lu comme toi les divers avertissements sur la situation à Bangkok. Je suis resté sur place seulement la journée et je me suis déplacé. Je n'ai rien vu de spécial. De plus j ai discute avec un expat, qui passe très souvent à Bangkok, qui m'expliquait qu'il n'y avait aucune raison de s'alarmer. Ce que j ai pu verifier.
En effet, un évènement est prévu sur Bangkok le 13. Les thai avec qui je suis, disent en effet le mouvement pourrait prendre de l'ampleur.
Si tu arrive le 24, tu as le temps de voir les choses arriver.
A bientöt
Salut Aurélie,
Je suis comme toi, j'arrive sur Bkk le 24 janv et je comptais y rester 2 ou 3 jours avant de partir sur Koh Samui. Personnellement, je n'ai pas trop d'inquietude. Mes amis sur place ne m'ont donnée aucune contre indication. On aura le temps de voir comment évolue les choses au moment voulu, au pire je décalerais mon passage sur Bkk à la fin de mon séjour.
Je suis comme toi, j'arrive sur Bkk le 24 janv et je comptais y rester 2 ou 3 jours avant de partir sur Koh Samui. Personnellement, je n'ai pas trop d'inquietude. Mes amis sur place ne m'ont donnée aucune contre indication. On aura le temps de voir comment évolue les choses au moment voulu, au pire je décalerais mon passage sur Bkk à la fin de mon séjour.
De plus j ai discute avec un expat, qui passe très souvent à Bangkok, qui m'expliquait qu'il n'y avait aucune raison de s'alarmer. Ce que j ai pu verifier.
En effet, un évènement est prévu sur Bangkok le 13. Les thai avec qui je suis, disent en effet le mouvement pourrait prendre de l'ampleur.
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Il est regrettable effectivement de voir cette prolifération de postes gravitant autour du même sujet, la situation sécuritaire à Bangkok et plus généralement en Thaïlande. Cependant, je ne vois plus en tête de liste les postes intéressants que je suivais sur ce sujet il y a une dizaine de jours, donc je reprends sur celui-ci.
Personne ne peut prédire ce qui va se passer mais la concentration d’ingrédients pour que cela dégénère augmente nettement. Ce qui est sûr, c’est que lundi 13 janvier va être une journée mouvementée à Bangkok, même si tout se passe dans le calme, car blocage de 20 points stratégiques (liste des sites choisis dans le texte en Anglais plus bas). Par exemple, il sera difficile sinon impossible de trouver un taxi pour se déplacer dans le centre de Bangkok.
Je cite en entier un article tout frais publié par l’agence internationale IHS (spécialités : énergie, environnement, presse, électronique, IT etc). Traduction libre, en bref et entre autres (passages en gras dans le texte en Anglais) :
« L’importance stratégique des sites choisis pour les manifestations du 13 janvier garantissent des déploiements policiers importants, augmentant ainsi la probabilité de confrontation violentes….
… augmentant ainsi le risque d’un coup militaire.
(L’objectif déclaré de ces opérations est de) bloquer au maximum la capitale et de gêner autant que possible le train de vie normal pour forcer le PM Yingluck Shinawatra de démissionner et passer le pouvoir à un « Conseil du Peuple »…
La stratégie de l’opposition serait de déstabiliser le gouvernement et d’empêcher les élections autant que possible, justifiant ainsi un coup militaire.
…. Les protestataires ne viseront probablement pas les stations de métro ni les aéroports.
La chance (pour l’opposition) de déposer le gouvernement actuel et de le remplacer par un « Conseil du Peuple », et d’éviter les élections (que l’opposition ne peut pas gagner) repose sur un coup militaire. L’opposition a donc tout intérêt à l’escalade pour mener à un coup… Dans ce contexte, une source « sur le terrain » confirme que des paramilitaires … se trouvent au milieu des manifestants.
… Il y a des éléments parmi les forces de l’ordre qui sont visiblement frustrés par ce qu’ils considèrent comme une attitude conciliatoire de la part du gouvernement, vis-à-vis des manifestants, et qui voudraient employer plus de force pour répondre aux manifestations.
…. Il est probable que les manifestations du 13 janvier causent plus de violence que ce qui a été le cas le 26 décembre (1 mort, 143 blessés).
… toute tentative de coup causera probablement plus de violence (du fait d’une réaction plus forte de la part des « Red Shirts ») que ce qui a été vu en 2010 quand ces groupes (les « Red Shirts ») avaient protesté contre le gouvernement d’Abhisit Vejjajiva. Cela expliquerait la réticence de l’armée d’intervenir (jusqu’à présent).
Bref, le message clé de cet article est que:
- le 13 sera mouvementé
- il y a de fortes chances que la situation mène à un coup militaire et à plus de violence que dans les événements similaires des dernières années.
Si cela se produisait comme tel, les autres questions seraient « quand ? », « pendant combien de temps ? » et « à quels niveaux de violence et d’insécurité ? », mais là c’est vraiment du domaine de Madame Soleil.
http://connect.ihs.com/...ctPath%3DLandingPage
Planned opposition protests in Thailand likely to turn violent and increase risk of military coup
8 Jan 2014 - IHS Global Insight
The opposition's move to shut down central Bangkok from 13 January at 20 major intersections represents an escalation of ongoing anti-government protests. The strategic significance of the protest sites ensures that police will be deployed in full force, thereby increasing the likelihood of violent confrontations between police and protesters.
The continued escalation of anti-government street protests will undermine the holding of elections, which are currently scheduled for 2 February.
The expansion of the anti-government protests into Bangkok's financial and tourism districts ensures that the police are likely to be deployed in full force at these sites. The protests are likely to escalate into violence and there is an increased risk of fighting breaking out between police and anti-government protesters, thereby increasing the risks of a military coup.
A military coup would trigger significant counter-protests by the United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) 'Red Shirts'. The military is therefore likely to intervene if and when violence escalates to the point where it can be justifiably argued that the caretaker Pheu Thai party government has lost control of the country.
The leader of the People's Opposition Reform Committee (PDRC), Suthep Thaugsuban, announced on 1 January that the PDRC would lead 'Yellow Shirt' anti-government protesters to occupy 20 major intersections across the Thai capital Bangkok from 13 January, in an attempt to paralyse traffic within those areas. The 20 protest locations are: Asok; Bang Rak; Charoenpol; Din Daeng; Hua Lamphong; Klong Toey; Lat Phrao five-way intersection; Lumpini; Petchaburi; Phaya Thai; Pratunam; Ratchadamnoen; Ratchaprasong; Ratchathewi; Sam Yan; Siam Square; Silom; Uruphong; Victory Monument; and Yaowarat.
Silom and Siam are Bangkok's main tourism and financial districts. Accordingly, the move into these areas represents a significant escalation of the anti-government protests, which are aimed at shutting down the capital and disrupting daily life as far as possible, to force caretaker prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra to resign and hand power to an unelected "people's council". Although snap elections have been scheduled for 2 February, they have been boycotted by the opposition, which has stated that an election in the absence of political reforms would only return to power what it deems the "Thaksin regime" , in reference to former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra. IHS assesses that the opposition’s strategy is to destabilise Yingluck's government and to derail elections as far as possible, therefore triggering a military coup. However, the opposition has denied that this is the case, although it has openly stated that it will not rest until the current government is removed.
An IHS source who regularly reports on the political situation in Bangkok confirms that the anti-government protesters are unlikely to target commercial buildings at present. The anti-government protests are, therefore, currently unlikely to descend to levels of violence witnessed in 2010, when protesting Red Shirts launched grenade attacks and burnt down landmark commercial buildings in downtown Bangkok. In addition, although opposition protesters will close down major roads, they are unlikely to target metro stations or airports for now. The reason for this is that the leaders of the yellow shirt protesters, the People's Alliance of Democracy (PAD), were ordered in March 2011 to pay damages amounting to USD17 million in connection with their occupation of Bangkok's airports in 2008.
Nevertheless, the opposition has decided to boycott the snap elections called by the Pheu Thai party government, which are currently scheduled for 2 February 2014. Its ability to successfully remove the incumbent Pheu Thai government and replace it with an unelected "people's council" in place of elections therefore depends on the military moving in to stage a coup. Opposition protesters therefore have the incentive to escalate protests as far as they can, to trigger a military intervention. In this connection, another IHS source who closely monitors Bangkok's political scene confirmed that some trained paramilitaries, whose function is to guard protest leaders, are currently among the crowd of opposition protesters.
Given that police are also likely to erect barricades and deploy greater numbers of troops to maintain order at protest sites, there is an increased risk of fighting breaking out between police and protesters if protest leaders lose control over crowds, or if protesters carry out threats to cut power to government buildings. As elements within the protest camp are likely to be armed, potentially with small-arms and improvised explosive devices (IEDs), there is an increased risk that confrontations at rally sites will result in casualties, injuries, and collateral damage to businesses and retail property in the vicinity. Police are likely to use tear gas, rubber bullets and water cannon in the event of any violence.
Although law enforcement personnel have so far exercised significant restraint in dealing with protesters, this is unlikely to hold given the strategic importance of the new protest sites. IHS sources confirm that there are elements within law enforcement that are visibly angry about what they perceive to be a conciliatory response on the government's part, and would like to see greater force used to maintain order and to disperse the protesters. In this regard, 500 police officers staged their own rally on 6 January, to vent their frustration at being unable or ill-equipped to defend themselves when confronting protesters. Accordingly, it is likely that the anti-government protests starting on 13 January are likely to result in similar levels of violence to that seen at the Thai-Japanese stadium on 26 December 2013, which resulted in one death and 143 injuries.
The risks of the military staging a coup will increase if violence escalates. Given that the militancy of the pro-government Red Shirts has increased since 2006, any attempted coup would lead to scores of Red Shirt protesters mobilising in Bangkok, triggering violence likely to surpass levels witnessed in 2010 when these groups launched protests in Bangkok against former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva's government. This explains the military's reticence to intervene in the conflict so far. However, the military is likely to intervene should the protests escalate to such levels of violence where the intervention can be justified on the grounds that the government has lost control over the country, and the intervention was the only option available for restoring order. This will in turn depend on how the anti-government protests escalate and whether law enforcement continues to exercise restraint in responding to the protests.
Il est regrettable effectivement de voir cette prolifération de postes gravitant autour du même sujet, la situation sécuritaire à Bangkok et plus généralement en Thaïlande. Cependant, je ne vois plus en tête de liste les postes intéressants que je suivais sur ce sujet il y a une dizaine de jours, donc je reprends sur celui-ci.
Personne ne peut prédire ce qui va se passer mais la concentration d’ingrédients pour que cela dégénère augmente nettement. Ce qui est sûr, c’est que lundi 13 janvier va être une journée mouvementée à Bangkok, même si tout se passe dans le calme, car blocage de 20 points stratégiques (liste des sites choisis dans le texte en Anglais plus bas). Par exemple, il sera difficile sinon impossible de trouver un taxi pour se déplacer dans le centre de Bangkok.
Je cite en entier un article tout frais publié par l’agence internationale IHS (spécialités : énergie, environnement, presse, électronique, IT etc). Traduction libre, en bref et entre autres (passages en gras dans le texte en Anglais) :
« L’importance stratégique des sites choisis pour les manifestations du 13 janvier garantissent des déploiements policiers importants, augmentant ainsi la probabilité de confrontation violentes….
… augmentant ainsi le risque d’un coup militaire.
(L’objectif déclaré de ces opérations est de) bloquer au maximum la capitale et de gêner autant que possible le train de vie normal pour forcer le PM Yingluck Shinawatra de démissionner et passer le pouvoir à un « Conseil du Peuple »…
La stratégie de l’opposition serait de déstabiliser le gouvernement et d’empêcher les élections autant que possible, justifiant ainsi un coup militaire.
…. Les protestataires ne viseront probablement pas les stations de métro ni les aéroports.
La chance (pour l’opposition) de déposer le gouvernement actuel et de le remplacer par un « Conseil du Peuple », et d’éviter les élections (que l’opposition ne peut pas gagner) repose sur un coup militaire. L’opposition a donc tout intérêt à l’escalade pour mener à un coup… Dans ce contexte, une source « sur le terrain » confirme que des paramilitaires … se trouvent au milieu des manifestants.
… Il y a des éléments parmi les forces de l’ordre qui sont visiblement frustrés par ce qu’ils considèrent comme une attitude conciliatoire de la part du gouvernement, vis-à-vis des manifestants, et qui voudraient employer plus de force pour répondre aux manifestations.
…. Il est probable que les manifestations du 13 janvier causent plus de violence que ce qui a été le cas le 26 décembre (1 mort, 143 blessés).
… toute tentative de coup causera probablement plus de violence (du fait d’une réaction plus forte de la part des « Red Shirts ») que ce qui a été vu en 2010 quand ces groupes (les « Red Shirts ») avaient protesté contre le gouvernement d’Abhisit Vejjajiva. Cela expliquerait la réticence de l’armée d’intervenir (jusqu’à présent).
Bref, le message clé de cet article est que:
- le 13 sera mouvementé
- il y a de fortes chances que la situation mène à un coup militaire et à plus de violence que dans les événements similaires des dernières années.
Si cela se produisait comme tel, les autres questions seraient « quand ? », « pendant combien de temps ? » et « à quels niveaux de violence et d’insécurité ? », mais là c’est vraiment du domaine de Madame Soleil.
http://connect.ihs.com/...ctPath%3DLandingPage
Planned opposition protests in Thailand likely to turn violent and increase risk of military coup
8 Jan 2014 - IHS Global Insight
The opposition's move to shut down central Bangkok from 13 January at 20 major intersections represents an escalation of ongoing anti-government protests. The strategic significance of the protest sites ensures that police will be deployed in full force, thereby increasing the likelihood of violent confrontations between police and protesters.
The continued escalation of anti-government street protests will undermine the holding of elections, which are currently scheduled for 2 February.
The expansion of the anti-government protests into Bangkok's financial and tourism districts ensures that the police are likely to be deployed in full force at these sites. The protests are likely to escalate into violence and there is an increased risk of fighting breaking out between police and anti-government protesters, thereby increasing the risks of a military coup.
A military coup would trigger significant counter-protests by the United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) 'Red Shirts'. The military is therefore likely to intervene if and when violence escalates to the point where it can be justifiably argued that the caretaker Pheu Thai party government has lost control of the country.
The leader of the People's Opposition Reform Committee (PDRC), Suthep Thaugsuban, announced on 1 January that the PDRC would lead 'Yellow Shirt' anti-government protesters to occupy 20 major intersections across the Thai capital Bangkok from 13 January, in an attempt to paralyse traffic within those areas. The 20 protest locations are: Asok; Bang Rak; Charoenpol; Din Daeng; Hua Lamphong; Klong Toey; Lat Phrao five-way intersection; Lumpini; Petchaburi; Phaya Thai; Pratunam; Ratchadamnoen; Ratchaprasong; Ratchathewi; Sam Yan; Siam Square; Silom; Uruphong; Victory Monument; and Yaowarat.
Silom and Siam are Bangkok's main tourism and financial districts. Accordingly, the move into these areas represents a significant escalation of the anti-government protests, which are aimed at shutting down the capital and disrupting daily life as far as possible, to force caretaker prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra to resign and hand power to an unelected "people's council". Although snap elections have been scheduled for 2 February, they have been boycotted by the opposition, which has stated that an election in the absence of political reforms would only return to power what it deems the "Thaksin regime" , in reference to former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra. IHS assesses that the opposition’s strategy is to destabilise Yingluck's government and to derail elections as far as possible, therefore triggering a military coup. However, the opposition has denied that this is the case, although it has openly stated that it will not rest until the current government is removed.
An IHS source who regularly reports on the political situation in Bangkok confirms that the anti-government protesters are unlikely to target commercial buildings at present. The anti-government protests are, therefore, currently unlikely to descend to levels of violence witnessed in 2010, when protesting Red Shirts launched grenade attacks and burnt down landmark commercial buildings in downtown Bangkok. In addition, although opposition protesters will close down major roads, they are unlikely to target metro stations or airports for now. The reason for this is that the leaders of the yellow shirt protesters, the People's Alliance of Democracy (PAD), were ordered in March 2011 to pay damages amounting to USD17 million in connection with their occupation of Bangkok's airports in 2008.
Nevertheless, the opposition has decided to boycott the snap elections called by the Pheu Thai party government, which are currently scheduled for 2 February 2014. Its ability to successfully remove the incumbent Pheu Thai government and replace it with an unelected "people's council" in place of elections therefore depends on the military moving in to stage a coup. Opposition protesters therefore have the incentive to escalate protests as far as they can, to trigger a military intervention. In this connection, another IHS source who closely monitors Bangkok's political scene confirmed that some trained paramilitaries, whose function is to guard protest leaders, are currently among the crowd of opposition protesters.
Given that police are also likely to erect barricades and deploy greater numbers of troops to maintain order at protest sites, there is an increased risk of fighting breaking out between police and protesters if protest leaders lose control over crowds, or if protesters carry out threats to cut power to government buildings. As elements within the protest camp are likely to be armed, potentially with small-arms and improvised explosive devices (IEDs), there is an increased risk that confrontations at rally sites will result in casualties, injuries, and collateral damage to businesses and retail property in the vicinity. Police are likely to use tear gas, rubber bullets and water cannon in the event of any violence.
Although law enforcement personnel have so far exercised significant restraint in dealing with protesters, this is unlikely to hold given the strategic importance of the new protest sites. IHS sources confirm that there are elements within law enforcement that are visibly angry about what they perceive to be a conciliatory response on the government's part, and would like to see greater force used to maintain order and to disperse the protesters. In this regard, 500 police officers staged their own rally on 6 January, to vent their frustration at being unable or ill-equipped to defend themselves when confronting protesters. Accordingly, it is likely that the anti-government protests starting on 13 January are likely to result in similar levels of violence to that seen at the Thai-Japanese stadium on 26 December 2013, which resulted in one death and 143 injuries.
The risks of the military staging a coup will increase if violence escalates. Given that the militancy of the pro-government Red Shirts has increased since 2006, any attempted coup would lead to scores of Red Shirt protesters mobilising in Bangkok, triggering violence likely to surpass levels witnessed in 2010 when these groups launched protests in Bangkok against former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva's government. This explains the military's reticence to intervene in the conflict so far. However, the military is likely to intervene should the protests escalate to such levels of violence where the intervention can be justified on the grounds that the government has lost control over the country, and the intervention was the only option available for restoring order. This will in turn depend on how the anti-government protests escalate and whether law enforcement continues to exercise restraint in responding to the protests.
Je profite du fil pour te remercier des infos alexie. nous sommes dans le même cas, arrivée BKK le 17/01 avec 2 nuits réservées
près du parc Lumphini. Nous sommes tentés de reservé une nuit en secours près de l'aéroport comme tu le suggères, aurais-tu quelques hotels à nous conseiller dans des tarifs raisonnables ? Notre inquiètude vient aussi du fait que nous avons réservé notre
vol Nok air pour Chiang mai le 20/01 et que nous sommes donc bloqués sur BKK.
Crois-tu qu'il sera possible de se rendre d'un aéroport à l'autre et que faire si nous devons passer 3j en dehors du centre.
Merci en tout cas de ces conseils précieux.
Si les jaunes, le 13, sont mobilisés en grand nombres et réussissent leur blocage, alors la situation risque de devenir explosive: les rouges vont se mobiliser en masse et descendre armés su BKK (les paysans attendent de recevoir leur primes de riz). D'autre part, le 18 il est prévu le défilé annuel de l'armée. L'armé a donc commencé a bouger avec les armes lourdes habituelles dans ces défiles. On peut penser qu'il auront apporter quelques munitions au cas ou. Les touristes ne sont pas évidement visés mais bien malin qui peut dire comment les choses évoluent dans ces conditions. En temps qu’étranger, Inutile d'aller jouer les héros ou de prendre position.
bonjour
Nous arrivons à BKK le 15 JANVIER au matin. Nous avons commandé un taxi pour Ban Saphan. Si il y a des personnes intéressées ?
Nous arrivons à BKK le 15 JANVIER au matin. Nous avons commandé un taxi pour Ban Saphan. Si il y a des personnes intéressées ?
3500 BATH pour trois personnes sans bagage ou deux personnes avec peu de bagages. Si vous êtes plus on peut retenir un véhicule plus grand pour 4800 baths je crois
Bonjour Flo,
Tant mieux si les informations que j'ai données à Aurélie te sont utiles. Cependant, je tiens à réitérer que je ne suis pas sur place. Je suis toujours à Montréal et je quitte dans les prochains jours pour Bangkok. Les informations que je véhicule sur ce site sont donc indirectes; elles proviennent de ma lecture assidue des nouvelles ainsi que de mon fil Twitter que j'essaie de garder diversifié (pro-jaunes, pro-rouges et « neutres »).
Vous n'aurez aucun problème à trouver un hôtel dont les chambres doubles sont à moins de 30$ (canadien) en regardant sur des sites de réservations en ligne comme Agoda et Booking.com et en spécifiant que vous cherchez dans les alentours de l'aéroport (probablement Suvarnabhumi si vous arrivez de la France). Personnellement, je cherchais un hôtel avec un restaurant pour être « indépendante » sur place et ne pas avoir à sortir de l'hôtel (surtout en bord d'autoroute!) pour chaque repas. Plusieurs hôtels chargent la première nuit (voir le séjour au complet) en cas de no-show. À vous de voir si cela vous convient.
Je ne peux malheureusement pas vous dire s'il y a de belles choses à faire hors du centre de Bangkok, puisque je suis toujours restée dans la ville même lors de mes séjours.
Cependant, je peux vous dire que vous ne devriez pas avoir de mal à vous rendre d'un aéroport à l'autre parce que (1) il y a un autobus qui assure ce trajet en passant par le centre-ville et les manifestants ont dit qu'ils laisseraient passer les transports publics et (2) il y a toujours la possibilité, en taxi, d'aller de Suvarnabhumi à Don Muang sans entrer dans la ville comme telle (en passant à l'Est).
Bonne préparation et bon voyage!
Alexie
Tant mieux si les informations que j'ai données à Aurélie te sont utiles. Cependant, je tiens à réitérer que je ne suis pas sur place. Je suis toujours à Montréal et je quitte dans les prochains jours pour Bangkok. Les informations que je véhicule sur ce site sont donc indirectes; elles proviennent de ma lecture assidue des nouvelles ainsi que de mon fil Twitter que j'essaie de garder diversifié (pro-jaunes, pro-rouges et « neutres »).
Vous n'aurez aucun problème à trouver un hôtel dont les chambres doubles sont à moins de 30$ (canadien) en regardant sur des sites de réservations en ligne comme Agoda et Booking.com et en spécifiant que vous cherchez dans les alentours de l'aéroport (probablement Suvarnabhumi si vous arrivez de la France). Personnellement, je cherchais un hôtel avec un restaurant pour être « indépendante » sur place et ne pas avoir à sortir de l'hôtel (surtout en bord d'autoroute!) pour chaque repas. Plusieurs hôtels chargent la première nuit (voir le séjour au complet) en cas de no-show. À vous de voir si cela vous convient.
Je ne peux malheureusement pas vous dire s'il y a de belles choses à faire hors du centre de Bangkok, puisque je suis toujours restée dans la ville même lors de mes séjours.
Cependant, je peux vous dire que vous ne devriez pas avoir de mal à vous rendre d'un aéroport à l'autre parce que (1) il y a un autobus qui assure ce trajet en passant par le centre-ville et les manifestants ont dit qu'ils laisseraient passer les transports publics et (2) il y a toujours la possibilité, en taxi, d'aller de Suvarnabhumi à Don Muang sans entrer dans la ville comme telle (en passant à l'Est).
Bonne préparation et bon voyage!
Alexie
bonjour
concernant l'hotel
Sinsuvarn Airport Suite
proche de l'aéroport et souvent la chambre est avec le transfert aéroport c'est à dire qu'ils viennent vous chercher ( comme beaucoup d'autres)
Concernant un hotel nous avions pris une nuit au
concernant l'hotel
Sinsuvarn Airport Suite
proche de l'aéroport et souvent la chambre est avec le transfert aéroport c'est à dire qu'ils viennent vous chercher ( comme beaucoup d'autres)
Concernant un hotel nous avions pris une nuit au
Ah bon?
Il est vrai que je ne l'ai jamais fait!
Simplement, ça me semblait tout à fait possible en regardant la carte des routes entre les deux.
Merci pour votre commentaire, je retiens qu'on fera mieux d'utiliser la navette!
Bonjour
Merci pour les pistes que tu donnes.
D'accord avec toi sur le coup de l'hotel proche de l'aéroport il y en a une multitude et à tous les prix. Sur la route pour se rendre à BKK et le taxi etc.... bien entendu il faudra voir sur place avec le chauffeur... Pour le reste vues les alertes des différentes ambassades le centre ville n'est pas vraiment conseillé. Nous avons donc opté pour un départ direct en taxi vers le sud.
Merci pour les pistes que tu donnes.
D'accord avec toi sur le coup de l'hotel proche de l'aéroport il y en a une multitude et à tous les prix. Sur la route pour se rendre à BKK et le taxi etc.... bien entendu il faudra voir sur place avec le chauffeur... Pour le reste vues les alertes des différentes ambassades le centre ville n'est pas vraiment conseillé. Nous avons donc opté pour un départ direct en taxi vers le sud.
Bankrut travelAgency
Avec un nom pareil, je me méfierais... banqueroute... 😏😏😏
Avec un nom pareil, je me méfierais... banqueroute... 😏😏😏
1 : Il faut vivre ses rêves et non pas rêver sa vie - 2 : mieux vaut vivre avec des remords qu'avec des regrets
Bankrut travelAgency
Salut,
A propos de cette agence, le site ne donne aucune information sur les possibilités de location de taxi. Est-ce que le prix que tu donnes est inclus dans un TO ?
D'autre part, voici le message reçu lorsque j'ouvre le lien de cette agence :
We're sorry..... but your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now.
Salut,
A propos de cette agence, le site ne donne aucune information sur les possibilités de location de taxi. Est-ce que le prix que tu donnes est inclus dans un TO ?
D'autre part, voici le message reçu lorsque j'ouvre le lien de cette agence :
We're sorry..... but your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now.
peut être une mauvaise info au départ de ma part je corresponds par mail ici
bankruttravel@gmail.com
Bankrut Tour & Travel Co., Ltd. 127/1 Moo 3 Thongchai, Bangsaphan, Prachuapkhirikhan, 77190, Thailand Tel: +66 (0) 81 736-3086 Fax: +66 (0) 32 695-249
bankruttravel@gmail.com
Bankrut Tour & Travel Co., Ltd. 127/1 Moo 3 Thongchai, Bangsaphan, Prachuapkhirikhan, 77190, Thailand Tel: +66 (0) 81 736-3086 Fax: +66 (0) 32 695-249
3500 BATH pour trois personnes sans bagage ou deux personnes avec peu de bagages. Si vous êtes plus on peut retenir un véhicule plus grand pour 4800 baths je crois
Par le train c'est 600 bahts avec la couchette...
Quant à prendre un hotel (paumé) près de l'aéroport : je recommanderai plutôt Sukhumvit (soi 1 à 5) car l'accès à la voie rapide est tout proche (400m) pour l'aéroprt et une multitude de restau aux alentours et meme le BTS !!
Ce post est également redondant avec celui (très complet on dirait) du 2 décembre : son seul mérite est d' inquieter (encore plus) le néophyte du pays !!
Par le train c'est 600 bahts avec la couchette...
Quant à prendre un hotel (paumé) près de l'aéroport : je recommanderai plutôt Sukhumvit (soi 1 à 5) car l'accès à la voie rapide est tout proche (400m) pour l'aéroprt et une multitude de restau aux alentours et meme le BTS !!
Ce post est également redondant avec celui (très complet on dirait) du 2 décembre : son seul mérite est d' inquieter (encore plus) le néophyte du pays !!
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Par le train c'est 600 bahts avec la couchette...
Quant à prendre un hotel (paumé) près de l'aéroport : je recommanderai plutôt Sukhumvit (soi 1 à 5) car l'accès à la voie rapide est tout proche (400m) pour l'aéroprt et une multitude de restau aux alentours et meme le BTS !!
Sauf que pour aller à Bang Krud, le train ne comporte pas de couchette, il part à env. 8:00 le matin et arrive vers 14h00 à Bang Saphan Yai. Le coût 400 baths en commandant sur internet.
Quant à la voie rapide, personne ne sait actuellement si elle sera accessible. Donc le plan d'un hôtel à proximité de l'aéroport n'est pas une mauvaise idée. Il y en a d'excellents avec restaurant et piscine et vraiment à 5min de Suvarnabhumi avec la navette de l'hôtel. AInsi on ne se casse pas la tête de savoir si oui ou non on va pouvoir passer.
Quant à prendre un hotel (paumé) près de l'aéroport : je recommanderai plutôt Sukhumvit (soi 1 à 5) car l'accès à la voie rapide est tout proche (400m) pour l'aéroprt et une multitude de restau aux alentours et meme le BTS !!
Sauf que pour aller à Bang Krud, le train ne comporte pas de couchette, il part à env. 8:00 le matin et arrive vers 14h00 à Bang Saphan Yai. Le coût 400 baths en commandant sur internet.
Quant à la voie rapide, personne ne sait actuellement si elle sera accessible. Donc le plan d'un hôtel à proximité de l'aéroport n'est pas une mauvaise idée. Il y en a d'excellents avec restaurant et piscine et vraiment à 5min de Suvarnabhumi avec la navette de l'hôtel. AInsi on ne se casse pas la tête de savoir si oui ou non on va pouvoir passer.
Mais tu n'es pas sans savoir que les trains (de nuit) allant de Bangkok a Chumpun (et plus loin) s'arrêtent à.... Ban Saphan. Moi c'est ce que j'avais fais en tout cas 😎 Alors si tu le veux bien quitte ce ton un poil péremptoire ma chère 😉
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Bonsoir
600 bath avec couchettes oui peut être je ne sais pas mais bon après chacun fait ce qu'il veut. Pour notre part nous préférons sortir de BKK directement de l'aéroport donc on prend un taxi pour un prix raisonnable eu égard aux kilomètres parcourus. Ensuite le train pour Bankrut part à 13 H et nous arrivons à 6 h du matin. En gros le train partira peut être alors que nous serons peut être déjà entre amis à Ban krut. Bon ensuite même si nous n'avons pas de gros moyens les 70/80 euros sont à notre portée! Au passage j'ai toujours trouvé drôle que certaines personnes qui se payent des voyages relativement chers comme Paris BKK (avec les assurances etc... + les duty free) radinnte sur un taxi, un restaurant et font la course au moins cher. Bon chacun fait comme il veut. Hotel paumé à côté de l'aéroport.! Pas tout à fait d'accord nous aimons bien pour une nuit ou deux prendre un hôtel à Latkrabang, son petit marché de nuit etc... on peut faire du vélo pour se rendre à BKK centre ville sans trop de problème une banlieue assez correcte tout de même. Il y a toujours des gens plus malin que les autres... Il y a effectivement deux posts qui traitent des évènements mais bon cela ne nous gêne pas, des sources diverses ce n'est pas négatif
600 bath avec couchettes oui peut être je ne sais pas mais bon après chacun fait ce qu'il veut. Pour notre part nous préférons sortir de BKK directement de l'aéroport donc on prend un taxi pour un prix raisonnable eu égard aux kilomètres parcourus. Ensuite le train pour Bankrut part à 13 H et nous arrivons à 6 h du matin. En gros le train partira peut être alors que nous serons peut être déjà entre amis à Ban krut. Bon ensuite même si nous n'avons pas de gros moyens les 70/80 euros sont à notre portée! Au passage j'ai toujours trouvé drôle que certaines personnes qui se payent des voyages relativement chers comme Paris BKK (avec les assurances etc... + les duty free) radinnte sur un taxi, un restaurant et font la course au moins cher. Bon chacun fait comme il veut. Hotel paumé à côté de l'aéroport.! Pas tout à fait d'accord nous aimons bien pour une nuit ou deux prendre un hôtel à Latkrabang, son petit marché de nuit etc... on peut faire du vélo pour se rendre à BKK centre ville sans trop de problème une banlieue assez correcte tout de même. Il y a toujours des gens plus malin que les autres... Il y a effectivement deux posts qui traitent des évènements mais bon cela ne nous gêne pas, des sources diverses ce n'est pas négatif
Je viens d'acheter hier un Paris Bangkok avec Emirates pour 526 € pour mi mars jusqu'a mi-avril : c'est très raisonnable comme tarif... Je répond avotre message pour dire à d'autres lecteurs que le trajet est aussi possible en train et même en couchette.
Quant à l'aéroport si effectivement il est bloqué : que l'on soit à 5mn ou à Sukhumvit n'y changera absolument rien
Quant à l'aéroport si effectivement il est bloqué : que l'on soit à 5mn ou à Sukhumvit n'y changera absolument rien
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Hola, ne le prends pas mal ! Ici on parle de Bang Krud pas d'autre stations beaucoup plus loin et c'est la raison pour laquelle je parle du train sans couchette. Et excuse-moi, mais mon ton n'est pas plus péremptoire que celui de ta réponse, mon cher !
Quant à Gabey, s'il arrive à Bangkok tôt le matin, pas possible de prendre le train "express" de 08:00 avant le lendemain matin, donc soit il dort une nuit à Bangkok, soit il prend un taxi.
Personnellement je prend toujours le train, et je dors à côté de la gare pour le train du matin. Mais c'est aussi une bonne idée de sauter cette nuit et de partir en taxi directement pour Bang Krud ou Bang Saphan ou n'importe où sur cette ligne d'ailleurs.
Quant à Gabey, s'il arrive à Bangkok tôt le matin, pas possible de prendre le train "express" de 08:00 avant le lendemain matin, donc soit il dort une nuit à Bangkok, soit il prend un taxi.
Personnellement je prend toujours le train, et je dors à côté de la gare pour le train du matin. Mais c'est aussi une bonne idée de sauter cette nuit et de partir en taxi directement pour Bang Krud ou Bang Saphan ou n'importe où sur cette ligne d'ailleurs.
Hola, ne le prends pas mal ! Ici on parle de Bang Krud pas d'autre stations beaucoup plus loin et c'est la raison pour laquelle je parle du train sans couchette. Et excuse-moi, mais mon ton n'est pas plus péremptoire que celui de ta réponse, mon cher !
Moi j'ai lu Ban Saphan 😉
Nous arrivons à BKK le 15 JANVIER au matin. Nous avons commandé un taxi pour Ban Saphan. Si il y a des personnes intéressées ?
Enfin je répete qu'il y a un paquet de trains qui s'arrêtent à Ban Saphan, de jour comme de nuit et certain avec couchette. Cette remarque n'est pas à l'attention de Gabey (qui a été très clair) mais pour d'autres lecteurs désireux de s'arréter à Ban Saphan.
Moi j'ai lu Ban Saphan 😉
Nous arrivons à BKK le 15 JANVIER au matin. Nous avons commandé un taxi pour Ban Saphan. Si il y a des personnes intéressées ?
Enfin je répete qu'il y a un paquet de trains qui s'arrêtent à Ban Saphan, de jour comme de nuit et certain avec couchette. Cette remarque n'est pas à l'attention de Gabey (qui a été très clair) mais pour d'autres lecteurs désireux de s'arréter à Ban Saphan.
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Bonjour
Pour le train bien entendu au niveau du prix ce n'est pa,
Pour Ban Krut 6 trains dans la journée dont 3 special express le prix du billet 475 baths et 4 rapid avec des billets 2 et 3 ième class pour 265 et 177 baths
Pour le train de 8H impossible même en temps normal. Pour les autres trains je doute en premier lieu pouvoir accéder à la gare Hua Lumphon et aussi que tous ces trains circulent. Les " rapid" en particulier qui n'ont que des horaires théoriques. Nous avions envisagé de nous rendre en taxi de l'aéroport dans une gare à la sortie de BKK. Nous n'aurions pu prendre qu'un train dans l'après midi donc après le voyage en avion ce n'est pas top et je pense que les taxis à l'aéroport ( comme dans tous les pays du monde) vont se faire des bonnes courses ces jours là. Nous l'avons donc joué au plus pratique en théorie. On se la joue classe avec le panneau " Mister XXXX" à l'arrivée. Je rigole ! A situation exceptionnelle mesures exceptionnelles la tranquillité pour une cinquantaine d'euros ce n'est pas très cher tout de même ! L'année dernière ce fut beaucoup plus simple: après une nuit à l'hotel nous avions pris la route du sud en vélos.....comme à notre habitude depuis des années
Pour le train bien entendu au niveau du prix ce n'est pa,
Pour Ban Krut 6 trains dans la journée dont 3 special express le prix du billet 475 baths et 4 rapid avec des billets 2 et 3 ième class pour 265 et 177 baths
Pour le train de 8H impossible même en temps normal. Pour les autres trains je doute en premier lieu pouvoir accéder à la gare Hua Lumphon et aussi que tous ces trains circulent. Les " rapid" en particulier qui n'ont que des horaires théoriques. Nous avions envisagé de nous rendre en taxi de l'aéroport dans une gare à la sortie de BKK. Nous n'aurions pu prendre qu'un train dans l'après midi donc après le voyage en avion ce n'est pas top et je pense que les taxis à l'aéroport ( comme dans tous les pays du monde) vont se faire des bonnes courses ces jours là. Nous l'avons donc joué au plus pratique en théorie. On se la joue classe avec le panneau " Mister XXXX" à l'arrivée. Je rigole ! A situation exceptionnelle mesures exceptionnelles la tranquillité pour une cinquantaine d'euros ce n'est pas très cher tout de même ! L'année dernière ce fut beaucoup plus simple: après une nuit à l'hotel nous avions pris la route du sud en vélos.....comme à notre habitude depuis des années
Les " rapid" en particulier qui n'ont que des horaires théoriques.
Salut !
Oh non ! je prends ce train chaque fois que je descends à Bang Krud ou Bang Saphan et à part une fois où nous avons dû attendre une bonne heure avant que le train n'arrive, j'ai trouvé que l'horaire était respecté - évidemment pas de la même manière qu'en Suisse 😉
Par contre, il est vrai que ce trajet réserve quelques fois des surprises de taille qui peuvent retarder sa progression. Je me souviens qu'une vache qui se promenait sur les voies et qui avait été renversée et nous avons attendu près de 2 heures en pleine campagne que les protagonistes se mettent d'accord 😏 Bon, mais c'est tout de même assez rare ce genre de mésaventure, surtout pour la vache 😎
Salut !
Oh non ! je prends ce train chaque fois que je descends à Bang Krud ou Bang Saphan et à part une fois où nous avons dû attendre une bonne heure avant que le train n'arrive, j'ai trouvé que l'horaire était respecté - évidemment pas de la même manière qu'en Suisse 😉
Par contre, il est vrai que ce trajet réserve quelques fois des surprises de taille qui peuvent retarder sa progression. Je me souviens qu'une vache qui se promenait sur les voies et qui avait été renversée et nous avons attendu près de 2 heures en pleine campagne que les protagonistes se mettent d'accord 😏 Bon, mais c'est tout de même assez rare ce genre de mésaventure, surtout pour la vache 😎
c'est tout de même assez rare ce genre de mésaventure
😏
C’est au Siam, sur la ligne de Ban-Phaji à Bangkok, que s’est produite cette singulière rencontre. La voie, à cet endroit, décrit une courbe assez prononcée ; il faisait nuit noire et le mécanicien ne pouvait voir loin devant lui. Tout à coup, la locomotive vint donner de toute sa vitesse dans le flanc d’un énorme éléphant qui traversait la voie. Le choc fut terrible la locomotive fut jetée hors des rails. Deux hommes furent tués, plusieurs autres blessés. Le wagon attaché à la machine fut mis en pièces, les autres déraillèrent. Quant à l’éléphant, cause de l’accident, il fut tué sur le coup, Son corps, réduit en bouillie, fut traîné sur un espace de plus de vingt mètres. C’est, paraît-il, le second accident du même genre qui se produit cette année au Siam. Au mois de Février dernier, un éléphant fut tué déjà près de Lopburi, mais avec moins de dommage pour le train qui le tamponna. Le Petit Journal du 9 Aout 1908

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C’est au Siam, sur la ligne de Ban-Phaji à Bangkok, que s’est produite cette singulière rencontre. La voie, à cet endroit, décrit une courbe assez prononcée ; il faisait nuit noire et le mécanicien ne pouvait voir loin devant lui. Tout à coup, la locomotive vint donner de toute sa vitesse dans le flanc d’un énorme éléphant qui traversait la voie. Le choc fut terrible la locomotive fut jetée hors des rails. Deux hommes furent tués, plusieurs autres blessés. Le wagon attaché à la machine fut mis en pièces, les autres déraillèrent. Quant à l’éléphant, cause de l’accident, il fut tué sur le coup, Son corps, réduit en bouillie, fut traîné sur un espace de plus de vingt mètres. C’est, paraît-il, le second accident du même genre qui se produit cette année au Siam. Au mois de Février dernier, un éléphant fut tué déjà près de Lopburi, mais avec moins de dommage pour le train qui le tamponna. Le Petit Journal du 9 Aout 1908

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Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!