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Partant en Thaïlande fin Novembre, savez-vous si le nouveau Routard est sorti ?
La sortie du nouveau Routard Thaïlande?
by Cl30
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Il sort toujours fin octobre, mais pour les infos et bons plans rien ne vaut le VF .😉 Mais ça peut dépanner comme le dit Thuan .😏
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Cher Thuan,
J'étais sûre de ce commentaire au sujet du Routard.
Bien sûr, le VF est très, très, très, (.................) plus complet et en plus avec des avis des personnes qui ont séjourné maintes fois ou séjournent en Thaïlande. C'est sans équivoque. Dommage que nous y ayons pas pensé avant pour d'autres voyages.
Toutefois, permets- moi de te faire remarquer qu'un petit livre est beaucoup plus léger que notre bon vieux P.C. et il ne m'est pas possible d'imprimer touts les posts qui nous intéressent.
Oh, la la, les cartouches.
Aussi, très organisée, je note, ce que je pense être l'essentiel, sur un cahier d'écolier, vos différentes remarques. Merci Thuan pour tout ce que tu fais. L30
Bien il y a des cyber partout, , ( en cas de panique ), , puis il y a l'aventure, , aller a son propre flair ? improviser, , tout cela ce perd avec les LP et les R, , ou tout le monde fait les mêmes choses, vont au même endroit, mangent, dorment, se déplace de la même façon, , il ne faut pas avoir peur de partir sans rien, 😉, , , , , , de grandes choses peuvent arriver, ,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Salut à tous, je m'incruste pour essayé de mettre tout le monde daccord . Prenez le routard, il ne prends pas beaucoups de place et est tellement peu a jour, que ce sera quand meme l'aventure, pour trouver des adresses qui n'existe plus !!! A plus . Et chacun son délire du moment qu'il respecte les autres et leur façon de penser .
Le Routard de la Thaïlande est vraiment nul, j'ai pu le vérifier de nombreuses fois et je ne m'en sers plus jamais.
Le Neos de Michelin n'est pas mal, mais la colection s'est arrêtée pour un enouvelle collection "Voyager pratique", mais je ne crois pas que le guide de la Thaïlande existe pour le moment dans cette collection.
Le LP est quand même mieux qu le Routard, le problème c'est que tout le monde l'a, alors il vaut mieux éviter ses adresses et s'en servir pour les renseignements pratiques et les plans.
Le LP est quand même mieux qu le Routard, le problème c'est que tout le monde l'a, alors il vaut mieux éviter ses adresses et s'en servir pour les renseignements pratiques et les plans.
oh ben thuan on a compris, tu n'en as jamais eu besoin. c'est tres tres bien.
mais voyager avec un routard ne veux pas dire que l'on suit l'autoroute touristique.
c'est quoi ces idées recues, d'imaginer que avoir un guide dans sa poche nous fais devenir mouton de la meute.
et que ceux qui n'en ont pas....bahh eux ils sont tres tres fort. yeaah super voyageur sans routard.
un peu d'humilité.
j'ai toujours un un routard avec moi....ca ne veux pas dire qu'on le suit à la lettre. parfois c'est aussi tres pratique.
meme si avant les guides, ils se debrouillaient aussi. enfin qui te dis qu'ils appreciaient? et qu'ils arrivaient a faire le tour de la thailande en 15 jours?
guide du routard=tres pratique avec congé payé.
enfin bon c'est un exemple de l'evolution de nos styles de vie et des moeurs.
un voyageur agueri se passera peut etre de guide, mais perso quand je le fais....c'est que j'ai du temps devant moi pour fouiner, chercher, revenir....ect ect....
le voyage a changer. le voyage est un loisir desormais et ce genre de reflexion est hors du temps. un guide est une tres bonne chose. il faut juste savoir faire la part des choses entres ce que tu es vraiment, en tant que voyageur...et ce que le guide te sous entend.
le voyage a changer. le voyage est un loisir desormais et ce genre de reflexion est hors du temps. un guide est une tres bonne chose. il faut juste savoir faire la part des choses entres ce que tu es vraiment, en tant que voyageur...et ce que le guide te sous entend.
"not all who wander are lost"
Partant en Thaïlande fin Novembre, savez-vous si le nouveau Routard est sorti ?
quand tu demandes le nouveau Routard, tu parles bien du guide de 1512 avec une nouvelle couverture chaque année avec juste un chiffre qui change ? 😉
je n'ai plus garde d'exemple mais une copine avait fait qq tests parce qu'elle ne me croyait pas, elle avait achete je ne sais plus quelle destination en 2001 puis 2003
et a part qq suppressions et ajouts de resto et de bars, rien n'avait change et les infos y etaient tjrs aussi perimees...
mais bon, je n'ai pas besoin de critiquer, la reputation du Routard n'est plus à (dé)faire 😛
quand tu demandes le nouveau Routard, tu parles bien du guide de 1512 avec une nouvelle couverture chaque année avec juste un chiffre qui change ? 😉
je n'ai plus garde d'exemple mais une copine avait fait qq tests parce qu'elle ne me croyait pas, elle avait achete je ne sais plus quelle destination en 2001 puis 2003
et a part qq suppressions et ajouts de resto et de bars, rien n'avait change et les infos y etaient tjrs aussi perimees...
mais bon, je n'ai pas besoin de critiquer, la reputation du Routard n'est plus à (dé)faire 😛
Ah Poupette, cela fait longtemps que les habitués de VF savent que tu es une défenseuse acharnée du Routard.
Tu es une des rares sur ce forum, va savoir pourquoi ? Moi, je n'ai jamais compris comment une amoureuse de la Thaïlande comme toi pouvait défendre le Routard de la Thaïlande.
Objectivement, il est nul par rapport à ses concurrents.
Oui c'est vrai que le routard n'est pas à jour, c'est incroyable le nombre d'adresse qui n'existe plus depuis belle lurette .
Un jour un ami ( il vit en Thaïlande depuis 25 ans ) m'expliquer quand une journée une jeune prenait note de Pierre, Paul ou Jacques et noter pour rendre les comptes à l'édition pour tout ce qu'il a récolter il faudrait une semaine pour bien mettre tout ça à jour et en visitant les lieux à 80% là elle n'a presque rien visiter pour vérifier les dires de Pierre, Paul ou Jacques .
Je ne lui disait qu'il exagérer, nous sommes parti voir une journée juste pour s'amuser et bien il y avait certains guests-houses qui n'exister plus depuis trois ans même un était devenu un cyber café le gars nous expliquer qu'il en avait marre de voir débarquer des gens chez en lui demandant une chambre, et j'en passe et je parle de celà il y a six ans en tout cas j'ai bien rigoler ce jour là .😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
la dernière fois que je l'ai emprunter fut pour avoir le numéro de telephone de l'unique petit hôpital de kho chang, , bien a ma grande surprise il n'y a rien, , rien en ce qui concerne la sécurité des voyageurs, , je crois que un guide est fait également pour donner des renseignement en cas de problèmes NON??
c;est un peut vrai je voyage un peut a l'ancienne, , les voyages macdonalds ce n'est pas trop mon truc, , j'aime l'imprévu et surtout l'insolite, ,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Ah Poupette, cela fait longtemps que les habitués de VF savent que tu es une défenseuse acharnée du Routard.
Tu es une des rares sur ce forum, va savoir pourquoi ? Moi, je n'ai jamais compris comment une amoureuse de la Thaïlande comme toi pouvait défendre le Routard de la Thaïlande.
Objectivement, il est nul par rapport à ses concurrents.
Peut-être que Poupette à des actions chez eux vas savoir .😏
Peut-être que Poupette à des actions chez eux vas savoir .😏
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Je pars toujours avec un guide mais pas le routard, trop d'erreur je préfere le lonely planet, et en anglais y a plus de choix.........
S.D
Poupette,
Devant cette avalanche de posts, je vais un peu prendre ta défense concernant le routard. Jusqu'à présent, nous n'avions que le routard pour pouvoir nous diriger. Nous avons eu de bonnes infos, d'autres moins. Comme dit Thuan, il faut du flair. Ne pas croire que le routard est vraiment routard. Il s'embourgeoise et même nous avec notre âge avancé!!! le trouvons très pépère.
Devant cette avalanche de posts, je vais un peu prendre ta défense concernant le routard. Jusqu'à présent, nous n'avions que le routard pour pouvoir nous diriger. Nous avons eu de bonnes infos, d'autres moins. Comme dit Thuan, il faut du flair. Ne pas croire que le routard est vraiment routard. Il s'embourgeoise et même nous avec notre âge avancé!!! le trouvons très pépère.
si des personnes veulent se rassurer avec le Routard c'est leur problème, , ce que je veut dire, c'est que ce n'est pas une obligation, , puis il n'y a pas que ce guide sur terre, , , , , , 😉
Oui bien sur tu as tout à fait raison à chacun de voir comme il l'entend .
Oui bien sur tu as tout à fait raison à chacun de voir comme il l'entend .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Bonsoir,
Il y a 5 ans, je devais partir faire un grand tour au Maroc. Bien conditionné par la pub, je suis allé acheter le Routard Maroc. Après lecture de ce guide, j'ai annulé mon voyage ! D'après le guide, il allait m'arriver les pires catastrophes, vol, racket, viol... OUI, c'est vrai, j'ai eu peur !
Ensuite, je décide de partir en Thailande et je pars le nez au vent. Au resort où je logeais, un client avait le Routard. Je lui demande de me le prêter . Et là encore, il allait m'arriver le pire. "Same same" Maroc... J'ai rendu imméditement le livre à son propriètaire et je n'ai rien retenu des conneries inscrites dans ce soi disant guide.
Cela fait 5 ans que je vais en Thailande, 2 à 3 fois par an ; je sillonne le pays en tout sens, rien d'ennuyeux ne m'est arrivé. Mai pei lei !
Ce n'est pas un guide... ! Manque de professionnalisme, les personnes qui rédigent les articles ne sont pas des professionnels sérieux, ils remplissent des pages... Les hôtels, les restaurants... ne sont pas réellement visités, ils ne mangent pas la cuisine... Ils "s'entendent" avec les patrons des établissements...!
Vacances pas chères, au frais des c... bles.
Brrrk ! 🙁
Ps : je vais au Maroc en avril 2007 sans le Routard 😏 .
Ps : je vais au Maroc en avril 2007 sans le Routard 😏 .
Dans le guide du routard les noms des lieux sont écrits en Thai, c'est joli, ca peut étre utile, et ce n'est pas sur VF
Il n'y a pas de cyber café partout ; cet été je n'en ai pas vu pendant 2 semaines. Bon je n'étais pas en Thailande, j'étais dans le Massif Central, en France 😏 J'avais un guide qui m'a incité à de petits détours pour découvrir tel mignon petit village, tel joli lieu ...😎
Le guide du routard coute 2 fois moins cher que le Lonely, il est 2 fois moins épais, 2 fois plus léger et il y a donc 2 fois moins de c., d'erreurs dedans😛 tain, je viens d'acheter le rourtard Thailand, y a 1 semaine🙁
Luc
Il n'y a pas de cyber café partout ; cet été je n'en ai pas vu pendant 2 semaines. Bon je n'étais pas en Thailande, j'étais dans le Massif Central, en France 😏 J'avais un guide qui m'a incité à de petits détours pour découvrir tel mignon petit village, tel joli lieu ...😎
Le guide du routard coute 2 fois moins cher que le Lonely, il est 2 fois moins épais, 2 fois plus léger et il y a donc 2 fois moins de c., d'erreurs dedans😛 tain, je viens d'acheter le rourtard Thailand, y a 1 semaine🙁
Luc
si des personnes veulent se rassurer avec le Routard c'est leur problème, , ce que je veut dire, c'est que ce n'est pas une obligation, , puis il n'y a pas que ce guide sur terre, , , , , , 😉
Oui bien sur tu as tout à fait raison à chacun de voir comme il l'entend .
Tout a fait, tout le monde vient en Thailande avec un guide c, est un fait ...Surtout les soi disant aventuriers, ils ont toujours leur nez plonge dedans parce qu, ils ne veulent prendre aucun risque ...et cherche des trucs pour dormir et renontrer leur semblable 🤪 ...
et tout le monde se retrouve au meme endroit, ...Aucune part a l, improvisation du au manque de temps et de moyen ...On veut du "sur" a tout les coups, on ne veux pas se tromper ni etre decu, donc on prend un guide ...Quand au choix du guide, chacun defend ses interets je vois .😏😏😏...
Un truc est sur!! les meilleurs plans dependrons de vous et de votre comportement partout ou vous irez dans ce pays...Pour ca aucun guide ne pourra rien faire pour vous ...
La Thailande est le pays de l, apparence par exellence, quand certains disent y, a rien a voir ici ou la, ca c, est de l, apparence, les meilleurs plans ne sont sur aucun guide et pour cause ...Voyager est une chose, l, aventure en est une autre ...
Le petit fute est pas mal .... l, esprit est different 😛..et ca change un peu ...
A+NTT
Oui bien sur tu as tout à fait raison à chacun de voir comme il l'entend .
Tout a fait, tout le monde vient en Thailande avec un guide c, est un fait ...Surtout les soi disant aventuriers, ils ont toujours leur nez plonge dedans parce qu, ils ne veulent prendre aucun risque ...et cherche des trucs pour dormir et renontrer leur semblable 🤪 ...
et tout le monde se retrouve au meme endroit, ...Aucune part a l, improvisation du au manque de temps et de moyen ...On veut du "sur" a tout les coups, on ne veux pas se tromper ni etre decu, donc on prend un guide ...Quand au choix du guide, chacun defend ses interets je vois .😏😏😏...
Un truc est sur!! les meilleurs plans dependrons de vous et de votre comportement partout ou vous irez dans ce pays...Pour ca aucun guide ne pourra rien faire pour vous ...
La Thailande est le pays de l, apparence par exellence, quand certains disent y, a rien a voir ici ou la, ca c, est de l, apparence, les meilleurs plans ne sont sur aucun guide et pour cause ...Voyager est une chose, l, aventure en est une autre ...
Le petit fute est pas mal .... l, esprit est different 😛..et ca change un peu ...
A+NTT
sur l, arbre qui donne des pommes il n, y a pas de citrons
Meme pas le paier est trop lisse...
bien a l'image des guides en general.
Karolus
bien a l'image des guides en general.
Karolus
j'aime bien l'expression de notingtong << ..On veut du "sur" a tout les coups, on ne veux pas se tromper ni etre decu, >>
Elle résume bien le nouveau voyage, ,
pour ma part je constate le manque de communications des porteur de routards, comme ils ont les infos ( bonnes ou mauvaise ) ils n'ont pas besoin de communiquer avec les autochtones, ou en tout cas bien moins, or voyager ce n'est pas seulement voir, c'est communiquer partager se faire des amis, des ennemis aussi 🤪
Puis je constate que le routard a quelque chose de mal sain, , il fait croire que il y a du danger, avec ses mises en garde, , or c'est pour mieux être acro au routard, , <>>, , puis je sort vainqueur de ce voyage dangereux grâce au routard, , du coup les personnes on peur de communiquer, et sont satisfait par, , << les personnes de la guest sont sympa je connais les thais ils m'ont fait comprendre >>
je préfère les guides qui ne donne que des infos et non des interprétations, calculé et très cibles, ,
ce ne sont que des questions dominicales, , , , , , ,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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le "Lonely Planet" est plus riche en infos !
bon voyage
le vent l'emportlora.......
"TU FAIS UN VOYAGE mais C'EST LE VOYAGE QUI TE FAIT !"
"TU FAIS UN VOYAGE mais C'EST LE VOYAGE QUI TE FAIT !"
un client avait le Routard. Je lui demande de me le prêter . Et là encore, il allait m'arriver le pire
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C'est pas un peu excessif non ?? T'exagères pas un peu ?? Un guide par définition donne des infos pratiques, des cartes, des moyens de transport etc.. bien utiles quand on ne s'appelle pas Naps et qu'on a un billet retour. Pour ces raisons, je pense qu'on en a vraiment besoin la 1ère fois qu'on se déplace dans un pays.
Cela dit ce n'est pas une bible et je ne l'apprends pas par coeur.
Je ne sais pas de quoi tu parles à propos du Routard quand tu dis "Et là encore, il allait m'arriver le pire" les viols, les racketts etc... mais ce qui est sûr c'est que ça va finir par t'arriver si tu y penses si fort.... pauvre Routard, il ne mérite pas ça !
Lau
qu'on le sache sur vf, lepiaf, barbot, cela m'importe vraiment, vraiment tres peu. mais la veritée est que j'ai le LP et que je le prefere sur la thailande. donc bon....cela change quoi? si vf à la main forte....alors abdiquons.
j'aime bien le ton de ce guide et j'apprecie leur ecriture. allez savoir egalement pourquoi...hein. ce n'est pas uniquement une question de destination. (sur vf on pense peut etre l'inverse...là ou je bosse c'est aussi l'inverse, j'ai enormement d'opinion favorable au routard. comme quoi.)
le truc est qu'il est tres facile d'avoir une opinion salée sur quelqu'un qui dit aimer le routard, ou qui l'a dans la poche. c'est vraiment tres tres simpe. mais apres? cela signifie que celui qui l'a acheter est une fervent amateur de la mention "routard" et qu'il va y croire lui meme: "Oui, j'achete le routard donc je suis."
non mais arretons, comme je le disais, un peu d'humilité. cela vaut tout autant pour les amateurs du LP. un guide ou pas, tout depend de ta facon de voyager, de ton temps, de tes priorités. vf c'est genial....mais tout le monde n'a pas un pc sous le nez. tout le monde ne peux pas non plus se fier au flair. et dans un pays comme la thailande, cela fait longtemps que je m'y prend comme ca. au feeling. tout le monde ne peux pas en faire autant. là majorité du temps nos guides nous ont servis (et dans le reste de l'asie) a suggerer des adresses. que l'on a suivis ou pas. le reste, c'est à l'instinct.
à mon sens, etre routard, voyageur, aventurier qu'importe, n'est pas de se passer de guide: c'est d'avoir aussi (en complement de pleins d'autres choses evidemment) assez d'humilité pour demander son chemin, son hotel là ou vous pensez que rien est bien...ect ect. si n est assez niguau pour croire que "le routard" edition 2006 fera de vous un grand aventurier parce qu'ils tutoient à l'interieur....je n'y peux rien. mais ce n'est pas à l'image de tous les gens qui aiment ce guide. ne melangeont pas tout.
cordialement.
j'aime bien le ton de ce guide et j'apprecie leur ecriture. allez savoir egalement pourquoi...hein. ce n'est pas uniquement une question de destination. (sur vf on pense peut etre l'inverse...là ou je bosse c'est aussi l'inverse, j'ai enormement d'opinion favorable au routard. comme quoi.)
le truc est qu'il est tres facile d'avoir une opinion salée sur quelqu'un qui dit aimer le routard, ou qui l'a dans la poche. c'est vraiment tres tres simpe. mais apres? cela signifie que celui qui l'a acheter est une fervent amateur de la mention "routard" et qu'il va y croire lui meme: "Oui, j'achete le routard donc je suis."
non mais arretons, comme je le disais, un peu d'humilité. cela vaut tout autant pour les amateurs du LP. un guide ou pas, tout depend de ta facon de voyager, de ton temps, de tes priorités. vf c'est genial....mais tout le monde n'a pas un pc sous le nez. tout le monde ne peux pas non plus se fier au flair. et dans un pays comme la thailande, cela fait longtemps que je m'y prend comme ca. au feeling. tout le monde ne peux pas en faire autant. là majorité du temps nos guides nous ont servis (et dans le reste de l'asie) a suggerer des adresses. que l'on a suivis ou pas. le reste, c'est à l'instinct.
à mon sens, etre routard, voyageur, aventurier qu'importe, n'est pas de se passer de guide: c'est d'avoir aussi (en complement de pleins d'autres choses evidemment) assez d'humilité pour demander son chemin, son hotel là ou vous pensez que rien est bien...ect ect. si n est assez niguau pour croire que "le routard" edition 2006 fera de vous un grand aventurier parce qu'ils tutoient à l'interieur....je n'y peux rien. mais ce n'est pas à l'image de tous les gens qui aiment ce guide. ne melangeont pas tout.
cordialement.
"not all who wander are lost"
Le Routard, c'est surtout un gros catalogue de pub. Exemple, quelle compagnie pour partir sur Bangkok? AIR FRANCE bien sur ! Et 2 pages + loin, une pub pour Air France...
un client avait le Routard. Je lui demande de me le prêter . Et là encore, il allait m'arriver le pire
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C'est pas un peu excessif non ?? T'exagères pas un peu ?? Un guide par définition donne des infos pratiques, des cartes, des moyens de transport etc.. bien utiles quand on ne s'appelle pas Naps et qu'on a un billet retour. Pour ces raisons, je pense qu'on en a vraiment besoin la 1ère fois qu'on se déplace dans un pays.
Cela dit ce n'est pas une bible et je ne l'apprends pas par coeur.
Je ne sais pas de quoi tu parles à propos du Routard quand tu dis "Et là encore, il allait m'arriver le pire" les viols, les racketts etc... mais ce qui est sûr c'est que ça va finir par t'arriver si tu y penses si fort.... pauvre Routard, il ne mérite pas ça !
Pour info, voilà ce qui est mentionné dans le Routard Maroc.
Maroc Dangers et enquiquinements Vous sachant beaucoup plus riche qu'eux (et vous imaginant encore plus riche que vous ne l'êtes !), certains auront à cœur de vous soutirer le maximum d'argent, mais par les moyens les plus légaux, via une pression psychologique ou des procédés de manipulation d'une très grande habileté. - Porter les sacs de matériel photo en bandoulière et en travers du torse. Ne pas mettre de portefeuille dans les poches arrière d'un pantalon. Pour son argent et ses papiers, préférer la banane autour de la taille ou un petit sac à dos bien arrimé. Le porter devant soi quand on est dans la foule et que l'on visite les souks. Les pickpockets ont une technique très au point. Ils s'approchent avec un journal, une pétition, ou un article quelconque (tee-shirt, par exemple) qu'ils vous mettent sous le nez en vous étourdissant de paroles. Pendant ce temps, l'autre main explore vos poches ou votre sac. Ne jamais rien laisser d'apparent dans un véhicule. Mettre tout dans le coffre et confier le véhicule à un gardien qui, moyennant 2 à 5 dirhams (plus pour la nuit), se fera une joie de le surveiller pendant que vous visiterez. En cas de vol de papiers d'identité ou autres, il faut savoir que la police ne prend pas de déposition pendant le congé de fin de semaine. Les routardes seules éviteront de faire du stop. Il ne leur est pas conseillé de sortir la nuit dans certains quartiers un peu chauds. Cette remarque est aussi valable pour nos lecteurs mâles (eh oui !). De plus, une routarde seule doit plutôt dire qu'elle va rejoindre un groupe plus tard. En voiture dans le Rif, si vous voyez quelqu'un couché sur la route, évitez-le mais ne vous arrêtez surtout pas. Les copains arrivent et vous achetez, bon gré, mal gré, 200 g de kif. De plus, après vous avoir vendu du kif, dans le Rif et même ailleurs, le vendeur peut facilement vous dénoncer à la police et empocher une commission. C'est une pratique courante, méfiez-vous. Pollution C'est fou ce que les paysages marocains peuvent être pollués. La négligence et le manque d'informations en sont la cause. Les Marocains ont pris l'habitude de jeter n'importe où tout ce qui les embarrasse. Le résultat est consternant : les décharges publiques sont des dépotoirs écœurants à proximité des localités, les plages en cours de saison sont pour la plupart très sales… Essayez de donner l’exemple.
Vous avez envie d'y aller après lecture du Routard ? 🏴☠️
Pour info, voilà ce qui est mentionné dans le Routard Maroc.
Maroc Dangers et enquiquinements Vous sachant beaucoup plus riche qu'eux (et vous imaginant encore plus riche que vous ne l'êtes !), certains auront à cœur de vous soutirer le maximum d'argent, mais par les moyens les plus légaux, via une pression psychologique ou des procédés de manipulation d'une très grande habileté. - Porter les sacs de matériel photo en bandoulière et en travers du torse. Ne pas mettre de portefeuille dans les poches arrière d'un pantalon. Pour son argent et ses papiers, préférer la banane autour de la taille ou un petit sac à dos bien arrimé. Le porter devant soi quand on est dans la foule et que l'on visite les souks. Les pickpockets ont une technique très au point. Ils s'approchent avec un journal, une pétition, ou un article quelconque (tee-shirt, par exemple) qu'ils vous mettent sous le nez en vous étourdissant de paroles. Pendant ce temps, l'autre main explore vos poches ou votre sac. Ne jamais rien laisser d'apparent dans un véhicule. Mettre tout dans le coffre et confier le véhicule à un gardien qui, moyennant 2 à 5 dirhams (plus pour la nuit), se fera une joie de le surveiller pendant que vous visiterez. En cas de vol de papiers d'identité ou autres, il faut savoir que la police ne prend pas de déposition pendant le congé de fin de semaine. Les routardes seules éviteront de faire du stop. Il ne leur est pas conseillé de sortir la nuit dans certains quartiers un peu chauds. Cette remarque est aussi valable pour nos lecteurs mâles (eh oui !). De plus, une routarde seule doit plutôt dire qu'elle va rejoindre un groupe plus tard. En voiture dans le Rif, si vous voyez quelqu'un couché sur la route, évitez-le mais ne vous arrêtez surtout pas. Les copains arrivent et vous achetez, bon gré, mal gré, 200 g de kif. De plus, après vous avoir vendu du kif, dans le Rif et même ailleurs, le vendeur peut facilement vous dénoncer à la police et empocher une commission. C'est une pratique courante, méfiez-vous. Pollution C'est fou ce que les paysages marocains peuvent être pollués. La négligence et le manque d'informations en sont la cause. Les Marocains ont pris l'habitude de jeter n'importe où tout ce qui les embarrasse. Le résultat est consternant : les décharges publiques sont des dépotoirs écœurants à proximité des localités, les plages en cours de saison sont pour la plupart très sales… Essayez de donner l’exemple.
Vous avez envie d'y aller après lecture du Routard ? 🏴☠️
ça me rappelle le ministére des affaires étrangéres...🙁😠
Le routard ne passera pas en moi!😄
J'ai utlisé le lonely en juillet 2005 pour la Thailande, bien présenté/claire et les cartes des villes m'ont vachement dépannés!😉
A plus! Lexa😎
J'ai utlisé le lonely en juillet 2005 pour la Thailande, bien présenté/claire et les cartes des villes m'ont vachement dépannés!😉
A plus! Lexa😎
je pense surtout qu'il faut relativiser.
un guide suggère, le voyageur s'inspire.
avant de partir au vietnam, j'avais cru bon de feuilleter le LP dans ma chambre d'hotel à siam reap. la copie etait nickel, pas cher, j'etais contente... or 2 heures apres, j'ai dechanté: le vienam serai il un pays aussi dangereux que ce que le guide sous entend ? mon dieu. pays barbare aux risques omnipresent. c'etait limite si le guide nous disait de rebrousser chemin.
mais non bien sur que non. ce sont des precautions et des avertissements. rien ne vaut MON opinion. donc j'ai tres vite compris (en arrivant a saigon...puis remonter toute la côte) que le vietnam est juste un pays comme un autre.
si vous vous mettez a decortiquer tous ce que dit un guide en commencant par: "que va t'il m'arriver maintenant" alors ne partez pas. le voyage (meme avec un guide) est un condensé d'inconnu et d'imprevu. si l'on n'arrive meme pas à faire face aux reflections de nos chers auteurs, alors comment reussir a apprecier un voyage?
je ne connais pas un seul amoureux du voyage qui decide d'une destination en fonction de ce qu'en dit un guide. le choix de ceux-ci est tres personnel...mais nous sommes adulte. derrière ces lignes, existe une realitée. le voyage est d'aller de l'avant et non de se camoufler derriere des mots rassurant. à nous de faire la difference. les guides accompagnent discretement mais ne tracent surement pas nos pas.
un guide suggère, le voyageur s'inspire.
avant de partir au vietnam, j'avais cru bon de feuilleter le LP dans ma chambre d'hotel à siam reap. la copie etait nickel, pas cher, j'etais contente... or 2 heures apres, j'ai dechanté: le vienam serai il un pays aussi dangereux que ce que le guide sous entend ? mon dieu. pays barbare aux risques omnipresent. c'etait limite si le guide nous disait de rebrousser chemin.
mais non bien sur que non. ce sont des precautions et des avertissements. rien ne vaut MON opinion. donc j'ai tres vite compris (en arrivant a saigon...puis remonter toute la côte) que le vietnam est juste un pays comme un autre.
si vous vous mettez a decortiquer tous ce que dit un guide en commencant par: "que va t'il m'arriver maintenant" alors ne partez pas. le voyage (meme avec un guide) est un condensé d'inconnu et d'imprevu. si l'on n'arrive meme pas à faire face aux reflections de nos chers auteurs, alors comment reussir a apprecier un voyage?
je ne connais pas un seul amoureux du voyage qui decide d'une destination en fonction de ce qu'en dit un guide. le choix de ceux-ci est tres personnel...mais nous sommes adulte. derrière ces lignes, existe une realitée. le voyage est d'aller de l'avant et non de se camoufler derriere des mots rassurant. à nous de faire la difference. les guides accompagnent discretement mais ne tracent surement pas nos pas.
"not all who wander are lost"
Grace au routard j'ai découvert "Dhanushkodi ";rien que pour ça je ne casserai jamais du bois sur le dos du routard !!!
C'est pas un peu excessif non ?? T'exagères pas un peu ??
Merci Lau, tu vois que je ne dis pas que des conneries. Et ce que j'ai mentionné plus haut n'est qu'un petit et triste condensé des bêtises que l'on peut lire sur ce guide. Essaie de te procurer juste pour te faire une opinion perso celui de la Thailande 2001 ou 02, quoique leur guide n'est pas souvent mis à jour, rt tu pourras constater combien ce pays est "dangereux" pour eux bien sûr pas pour nous qui sommes des adultes, enfin je le pense... Pour ma part, ils croient pratiquer de l'information pour quelques bons plans, souvent foireux, car leur travail manque de sérieux. Dommage, car il y a 20 ou 30 ans, c'était le top. 😎
Merci Lau, tu vois que je ne dis pas que des conneries. Et ce que j'ai mentionné plus haut n'est qu'un petit et triste condensé des bêtises que l'on peut lire sur ce guide. Essaie de te procurer juste pour te faire une opinion perso celui de la Thailande 2001 ou 02, quoique leur guide n'est pas souvent mis à jour, rt tu pourras constater combien ce pays est "dangereux" pour eux bien sûr pas pour nous qui sommes des adultes, enfin je le pense... Pour ma part, ils croient pratiquer de l'information pour quelques bons plans, souvent foireux, car leur travail manque de sérieux. Dommage, car il y a 20 ou 30 ans, c'était le top. 😎
tiens si tu veux rire, lis aussi le lp vietnam. on verra si le routard lui fait de la concurrence dans la categorie "petits enquiquinements".
tu devrai simplement te faire ton propre avis. parce que le petit paragraphe tiré du routard est quasi à l'identique le meme ton que j'ai pu retrouver dans plusieurs LP.c'etait par momen limite flippant à lire.
enfin je dis ca...je dis rien. et cela n'a strictement aucune importance en fin de compte.
tu devrai simplement te faire ton propre avis. parce que le petit paragraphe tiré du routard est quasi à l'identique le meme ton que j'ai pu retrouver dans plusieurs LP.c'etait par momen limite flippant à lire.
enfin je dis ca...je dis rien. et cela n'a strictement aucune importance en fin de compte.
"not all who wander are lost"
Il faudrais changer la monnaies thai....
Ca les obligerais a changer plus que la couverture😄😄😄
La ou le vent nous emporteras
Excuse moi nuadtoa je faisais du 2è degré... Je plaisantais seulement sur la 1ère phrase que tu as citée...😏
Je ne pense aucun mal du Routard que j'utilise moi aussi depuis quelques années, je lis les recommandations en terme de sécurité à titre de précaution, voilà c'est tout et je ne choisis pas ma destination en fonction d'un guide.
Pour la Thailande j'avais hésité avec Petit Futé mais on m'a prêté le Routard, on n'a pas eu de plan foireux et à aucun moment ils ne parlent d'un pays dangereux comme tu le cites plus haut, mais bon comme on était loin de partir à l'aventure, on le lisait souvent en diagonale et pas comme parole d'évangile.
Lau
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Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
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After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
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Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise