La sortie du nouveau Routard Thaïlande?
by Cl30
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
honky, on s'ennuit le dimanche soir?
j'adore ta science du voyage. tu l'etales si fierement, c'est touchant.😊
"not all who wander are lost"
Oui, il me fait délirer Honky avec ces histoires de nanards sortis tout droit de kao san road.😄
A plus! Lexa😎
A plus! Lexa😎
Dommage, car il y a 20 ou 30 ans, c'était le top. 😎
Il y a 20 ans dans le routard d'afrique de l'ouest il était dit : "Pour aller de la cote d'ivoire au Togo, prenez l'avion pour éviter le Ghana pays à problème" ( je cite de mémoire)
Ils avaient raison de dire ca...
tranquille 😉
personne
Luc
Il y a 20 ans dans le routard d'afrique de l'ouest il était dit : "Pour aller de la cote d'ivoire au Togo, prenez l'avion pour éviter le Ghana pays à problème" ( je cite de mémoire)
Ils avaient raison de dire ca...
tranquille 😉
personne
Luc
En tout cas des '' Aventuriers " c, est pas a KSR que tu vas en trouver, ca c, est sur .....😏...
sur l, arbre qui donne des pommes il n, y a pas de citrons
Oui le Routard ............est sorti, mais je te conseille vraiment de prendre le Lonely Planet Thailande 2006 en français aussi. Bien plus efficace! Sans hésitation Lonely Planet est meilleur! Encore une fois.
A+ Bon voyage!
A+ Bon voyage!
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c'est vrai qu'il est bientres bien le LP thailande. quoiqu'un peu enorme mais tres complet.
je n'ai pas tester ses adresses mais la lecture est agreable.
et je ne dis pas ca parce que j'ai (presque) des actions chez eux 😏
"not all who wander are lost"
Petit fute c'est bien ...des bons tuyaux.
sur l, arbre qui donne des pommes il n, y a pas de citrons
Petit fute c'est bien ...des bons tuyaux.
Salut Notingtong,
Tout à fait d'accord avec toi, mais parfois, ils privilégient surtout des adresses d'établissements tenus par des français ... un peu trop à mon goût ...
Tout comme Lepiaf, j'aimais beaucoup le Néos de Michelin.
@+ Sabaïdee
Salut Notingtong,
Tout à fait d'accord avec toi, mais parfois, ils privilégient surtout des adresses d'établissements tenus par des français ... un peu trop à mon goût ...
Tout comme Lepiaf, j'aimais beaucoup le Néos de Michelin.
@+ Sabaïdee
J'ai le mal du pays pour un pays qui n'est pas le mien ... (A. David-Neel)
Tout a fait d, accord avec toi ..Les Francais sont privilegies dans les adresses retenus ..c, est parfois une bonne chose ....Car les Francais, on une approche passion de l, Asie. Beaucoup plus que les Anglo Saxon ..et les germans ..Ca aussi ils l, ont remarque ...🙂...
sur l, arbre qui donne des pommes il n, y a pas de citrons
c'est vrai qu'il est bientres bien le LP thailande. quoiqu'un peu enorme mais tres complet.
je n'ai pas tester ses adresses mais la lecture est agreable.
et je ne dis pas ca parce que j'ai (presque) des actions chez eux 😏
Cachottière Poupette, je savais que tu avais des actions chez eux je viens de regarder sur le journal ""Le Monde"" ça monte les actions .😏 😉😏
Cachottière Poupette, je savais que tu avais des actions chez eux je viens de regarder sur le journal ""Le Monde"" ça monte les actions .😏 😉😏
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
bah ils font pareils au Cambodge ou le gars snobe les anglo saxon et annonce defendre la langue de Moliere.
Quand on lit sa prose on voit qu'il l'a defend avec une extreme molie-ration (faut pas abuser des bonnes choses) mais bon ce n'est pas un mauvais guide mem si parfois certaines adresses anglo saxonne meriterait d'etre mise en valeur...
Cela doit etre la politique de la maison.
Karolus
Quand on lit sa prose on voit qu'il l'a defend avec une extreme molie-ration (faut pas abuser des bonnes choses) mais bon ce n'est pas un mauvais guide mem si parfois certaines adresses anglo saxonne meriterait d'etre mise en valeur...
Cela doit etre la politique de la maison.
Karolus
malheureusement il ne s'agit pas d'action financère...gourde que je suis !😠
"not all who wander are lost"
🙁C'est taré de se foutre de la gueule des touristes, ils ont beaucoup de qualités, curiosité de l'autre de la nature, etc... et ils vous enrichissent!!!!!!!
Je ne connais aucun touriste qui ne se trimballe pas avec son Ly ou son Rt, surtout pour un pays qu'il découvre, lorsque nous sommes allés en Inde du nord avec le Rt et le Ly (nous l'avions coupés en deux, car trop lourd, ah ces Anglais?) nous ne connaissions pas ce forum que nous adorons, malgré les conseils des amis, des bouquins, nous avons galérés à Delhi, en plus nous parlons pratiquement pas l'anglais, notre voyage a été très riche en découvertes, avons rencontré des gens très sympas, nous sommes allés dans les guesthouses relevées sur nos guides Rt - Ly, bus, train pour les déplacements, nous nous sommes découverts bons routards, je reviens au sujet des guides, ceux qui retournent 50 fois dans un pays, ou les millionnaires ne s'en préoccupent pas des guides!
Nous aimons les gens qui partent en voyage, souvent ils se remettent en question en élargissant leurs horizons.
Je ne connais aucun touriste qui ne se trimballe pas avec son Ly ou son Rt, surtout pour un pays qu'il découvre, lorsque nous sommes allés en Inde du nord avec le Rt et le Ly (nous l'avions coupés en deux, car trop lourd, ah ces Anglais?) nous ne connaissions pas ce forum que nous adorons, malgré les conseils des amis, des bouquins, nous avons galérés à Delhi, en plus nous parlons pratiquement pas l'anglais, notre voyage a été très riche en découvertes, avons rencontré des gens très sympas, nous sommes allés dans les guesthouses relevées sur nos guides Rt - Ly, bus, train pour les déplacements, nous nous sommes découverts bons routards, je reviens au sujet des guides, ceux qui retournent 50 fois dans un pays, ou les millionnaires ne s'en préoccupent pas des guides!
Nous aimons les gens qui partent en voyage, souvent ils se remettent en question en élargissant leurs horizons.
Le voyage est un retour vers l'essentiel. proverbe Tibétain.
Mado et Lulu
Dommage, car il y a 20 ou 30 ans, c'était le top. 😎
Il y a 20 ans dans le routard d'afrique de l'ouest il était dit : "Pour aller de la cote d'ivoire au Togo, prenez l'avion pour éviter le Ghana pays à problème" ( je cite de mémoire)
Ils avaient raison de dire ca...
tranquille 😉
personne
Luc
J'ai plusieurs amis, qui l'ont aimé mais maintenant il est dépassé par plusieurs autres, mais il survit a cause de sa vieille réputation mais jusqu'a quand?Meme le lonely en francais ne vaut pas celle en anglais 😊
Personnelement les meilleurs guides sont les locaux!
Il y a 20 ans dans le routard d'afrique de l'ouest il était dit : "Pour aller de la cote d'ivoire au Togo, prenez l'avion pour éviter le Ghana pays à problème" ( je cite de mémoire)
Ils avaient raison de dire ca...
tranquille 😉
personne
Luc
J'ai plusieurs amis, qui l'ont aimé mais maintenant il est dépassé par plusieurs autres, mais il survit a cause de sa vieille réputation mais jusqu'a quand?Meme le lonely en francais ne vaut pas celle en anglais 😊
Personnelement les meilleurs guides sont les locaux!
S.D
Petite comparaison de ce matin ou j'ai eu entre les mains le routard cru 2006...
Mae Sai j'y es decouvert qiue l'on dpoit d'abord aller au bureau de l'immigration avant de passer la frontiere...
Qu'il est seulment permis de rester 1 journee a Tachilek pour 5 $
etc...
un tas de conneries car on peut se rendre a Kengtung et a Mengla pour une diuree de 14 jours et 10 $
Et un proces pour informatioons totalement erronnees depuis des annees ils n'ont jamais eu au Broutard ?
Karolus
Mae Sai j'y es decouvert qiue l'on dpoit d'abord aller au bureau de l'immigration avant de passer la frontiere...
Qu'il est seulment permis de rester 1 journee a Tachilek pour 5 $
etc...
un tas de conneries car on peut se rendre a Kengtung et a Mengla pour une diuree de 14 jours et 10 $
Et un proces pour informatioons totalement erronnees depuis des annees ils n'ont jamais eu au Broutard ?
Karolus
Salut🙂!On serait chez les ricains ça serait des coups à les trainer en justice pour ramasser le pactole!😄
Genre motif de la plainte:fausse informations, qui a mis mon porte monnaie en danger...🙂
A plus! Lexa😎
Genre motif de la plainte:fausse informations, qui a mis mon porte monnaie en danger...🙂
A plus! Lexa😎
Et le routard ignore toujours la superbe région de Nan, allez-y, on y rencontre très peu de farangs... il paraît qu'ils sont, à 90 % sur les plages !
Le Petit Futé est un très bon complément, et donne des adresses interessantes à Ban Saphan, que vous ne verrez pas dans Lonely.
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
Pour un pays comme la Thailande aucun guide ne peut etre a jour !!!!!😛 c, est impossible ...pour le prix du livre, vous en avez pour son prix, et pas plus, et ne lui demandez pas d, etre parole d, evangile ...On vit dans un monde ou tout le monde devient de plus en plus exigeant et surtout faut pas se tromper ...Du beau, du bon, du sympa, du libre du pas cher et du << sur a 100% >>...Eh bien ca n, existe pas !!!! les meilleures infos sont sur VF car jusqu, a preuve du contraire se sont celles qui sont le plus a jour .....😉
sur l, arbre qui donne des pommes il n, y a pas de citrons
Merci pour tes infos. Nous n'avons pas pu lire le nouveau Routard car pas encore arrivé en province. Par contre, suivant l'avis de vous tous, nous avons commandé le Lonely. Il va arriver sans doute lundi. Et puis, on se fiera à notre flair et à vos avis, si nous avons le temps la-bas, d'entrer dans un cyber.
Un guide papier .... il en faut toujours un pour au moins avoir quelques numéros de téléphone utiles, et surtout quelques plans de villes, de régions, de sites, etc ... alors en choisir un, ce sera selon son humeur du moment et parfois ses besoins et ses préférences ....
Une chose oubliée est que les meilleurs plans et renseignements que l'on puisse avoir, ce sont ceux que nous fournissent les voyageurs de rencontre qui reviennent de l'endroit ou l'on désire aller, et que l'on croise au hasard d'un séjour dans une guest ou à l'arrêt d'autobus ..... ceux là vous donneront vraiment les dernières " news " nécessaires, et en général c'est de celà que l'on a besoin ....
Une chose oubliée est que les meilleurs plans et renseignements que l'on puisse avoir, ce sont ceux que nous fournissent les voyageurs de rencontre qui reviennent de l'endroit ou l'on désire aller, et que l'on croise au hasard d'un séjour dans une guest ou à l'arrêt d'autobus ..... ceux là vous donneront vraiment les dernières " news " nécessaires, et en général c'est de celà que l'on a besoin ....
si personne ne leur ecrit pour leur dire....oui c'est sur ce ne sera pas a jour.
une fois qu'une destination est faite, ils comptent sur les lecteurs. tres peu de personne peuvent se balader partout et relever TOUTES les incoherences, tous les changements.
si on est pas content....on leur ecrit. voila. et ce sera remis a jour. nous participons aussi à la redaction en un sens.
un guide ecrit ne peux etre mis a jour entierement, au moment pile poil au moment ou vous vous y rendez.
si on est pas content....on leur ecrit. voila. et ce sera remis a jour. nous participons aussi à la redaction en un sens.
un guide ecrit ne peux etre mis a jour entierement, au moment pile poil au moment ou vous vous y rendez.
"not all who wander are lost"
le Routard m'a legerement foutu dans la M**** lors de mon voyage au mexique il y a qq années
le guide indiquait un hotel agreable et on s'est retrouves dans un repere de dealer, j'ai un peu eu les boules
le mec etait armé il nous a proposé de nous emmener dans un autre endroit dans son camion (soit disant un endroit ou y a de la place pour pas cher...)
en rentrant j'ai fait un courrier bien salé au Routard pour leur dire tout le bien que je pensais des infos ultra a jour...
dans les 2 guides qui ont suivi, j'avais pu constater que rien n'avait change dans les pages sur la ville ou je me suis rendu
et pourtant j'avais bien recu un courrier de leur part non pas pour s'excuser du fait que le guide n'est jamais remis a jour mais j'ai eu droit a "nous vous remercions de vos informations et nous en tiendrons compte pour la prochaine édition du guide"
le guide indiquait un hotel agreable et on s'est retrouves dans un repere de dealer, j'ai un peu eu les boules
le mec etait armé il nous a proposé de nous emmener dans un autre endroit dans son camion (soit disant un endroit ou y a de la place pour pas cher...)
en rentrant j'ai fait un courrier bien salé au Routard pour leur dire tout le bien que je pensais des infos ultra a jour...
dans les 2 guides qui ont suivi, j'avais pu constater que rien n'avait change dans les pages sur la ville ou je me suis rendu
et pourtant j'avais bien recu un courrier de leur part non pas pour s'excuser du fait que le guide n'est jamais remis a jour mais j'ai eu droit a "nous vous remercions de vos informations et nous en tiendrons compte pour la prochaine édition du guide"
c'est du foutage de gueule!😠 Au passage j'ai ramené mon routard indonésie à la fnac...😊
Désolé Poupette!😛(je blague!Je comprends ton point de vue et il est défendable...)
Pour en revenir à ton histoire Enzo, c'est clair qu'ils sont bidons!😠
A plus! ça m'énerve de voir des trucs comme ça, oulàlà!....🙁
Désolé Poupette!😛(je blague!Je comprends ton point de vue et il est défendable...)
Pour en revenir à ton histoire Enzo, c'est clair qu'ils sont bidons!😠
A plus! ça m'énerve de voir des trucs comme ça, oulàlà!....🙁
c'est ca aussi le voyage: savoir retourner sa veste.
alors "le routard m'a foutu dans la merde lors de mon dernier voyage"........
c'est peut etre vrai, m'enfin en meme temps tout arrive. le routard n'est pas garant de toutes ses adresses, comme tous les guides et ils ne s'en cachent pas.
c'est aussi a nous de travailler un peu pendant ces voyages.
tu as peut etre craint pour ta vie et je suis desolée... mais que veux tu? tu penses qu'ils l'avaient prevu ? ils ne se portent pas non plus garant de la bonne reflexion du voyageur. ils ne revendiquent pas le fait de nous macher le boulot mais de nous suggerer des adresses, souvent recommandées par des lecteurs, et qui leurs ont parus potable.
le routard, le Lp ce ne sont que des bouquins. a nous d'etre assez grand, moin credule et moin naif. tu ne pouvais pas savoir evidemment mais dis toi aussi que cela peut arriver a tous, a tous les guides, a n'importe qui, n'important quand et quelque soit la reedition du bouquin.
comme si on pouvait dire: "mise a jour 06 du routard ou du LP, rassurez vous, durant l'année de la remise a jour, rien ne s'y passera, tout sera clea, rassurez vous cher lecteur..."
bref....je piges pas. moi aussi le routard m'a parfois decu. je me suis dis bon.....ce n'etait peut etre pas de mon gout. et si le lendemain il s'y passe un crime, je ne vais pas leur jeter la premiere pierre, ce sera juste....la vie.
tu as peut etre craint pour ta vie et je suis desolée... mais que veux tu? tu penses qu'ils l'avaient prevu ? ils ne se portent pas non plus garant de la bonne reflexion du voyageur. ils ne revendiquent pas le fait de nous macher le boulot mais de nous suggerer des adresses, souvent recommandées par des lecteurs, et qui leurs ont parus potable.
le routard, le Lp ce ne sont que des bouquins. a nous d'etre assez grand, moin credule et moin naif. tu ne pouvais pas savoir evidemment mais dis toi aussi que cela peut arriver a tous, a tous les guides, a n'importe qui, n'important quand et quelque soit la reedition du bouquin.
comme si on pouvait dire: "mise a jour 06 du routard ou du LP, rassurez vous, durant l'année de la remise a jour, rien ne s'y passera, tout sera clea, rassurez vous cher lecteur..."
bref....je piges pas. moi aussi le routard m'a parfois decu. je me suis dis bon.....ce n'etait peut etre pas de mon gout. et si le lendemain il s'y passe un crime, je ne vais pas leur jeter la premiere pierre, ce sera juste....la vie.
"not all who wander are lost"
salut cest honky, bon franchement n'importe qui connait la thailande explose de rire en voyant ce qui est dit dans le guide du pseudo routard.toute facon tous les gens qui se la jouent routard(ils commenent par ko san et suivent l'autoroute du bon routard qui aime se la jouer rebelle, ca fait toujours bien, on critique pattaya, ca fait encore mieux.a les francaise(et francais) qui en revenant en france apres 1 mois en thailande disent a tout le monde(y compris sur ce forum)MOI JE vis comme les gens la bas(parce quils ont manges une soupes dans la rue a 2 pas de ko san), MOI JE suis authentique?MOI JE, MOI JE MOI JE..., alors qu ils ont suivit l'autoroute du touriste routard, et bien desole je me fend la gueule, vous me faites vraimant rire.
si on est pas content....on leur ecrit. voila.
C'est ce que j'ai fait après mon premier voyage en Thaïlande.
et ce sera remis a jour.
Hé bien non, rien n'a changé, les erreurs sont toujours là.
nous participons aussi à la redaction en un sens.
C'est que le Routard (et toi) veut faire croire aux lecteurs, mais c'est faux.
C'est ce que j'ai fait après mon premier voyage en Thaïlande.
et ce sera remis a jour.
Hé bien non, rien n'a changé, les erreurs sont toujours là.
nous participons aussi à la redaction en un sens.
C'est que le Routard (et toi) veut faire croire aux lecteurs, mais c'est faux.
Salut🙂!
Cette histoire d'écrire au routard, c'est juste une technique pour mieux vendre et donner plus de crédit à leur daube...🤪
le mec se dit:
_"punaise, si les voyageurs écrivent au routard.Bah!Automatiquement les infos doivent etre à jour!" _"les personnes qu'écrivent ce guide doivent faire preuve d'une certaine humilité.Elles n'hésitent pas à remettre en cause leur guide" _"ils ne vont pas marquer d'infos erronés aux risques d'avoir leurs boites aux lettre pleine..." etc
Tiens ça me rappelle cette vieille technique d'approche, genre le mec fait copains avec toi et te fais baisser la garde.Genre:"on peut tous ce dire, on est copains".Et boumbadaboum, on se retrouve avec un de ces mals aux fesses...
Le routard, c'est un peu ça:
"Acheté mon guide! On est sérieux! On est ouvert à toutes les critiques! Mais de toute façon on s'en fou! On a des piles de lettres types à envoyé, si vous n'etes pas content. (Bah!Oui!Le client, il faut qu'il se sente impliqué, utile...Qu'il se sente acteur!)Mais achétez notre guide pépére... Et puis toutes façon c'est pas nous qui nous nous retrouverons dans la merde! L'important c'est que vous achetiez notre guide.Et que ça ne vous laisse pas d'arriére gout dans la bouche! Le guide du routard c'est un peu comme la méthode Coué! (sauf que la méthode Coué dés fois ça le fait!)"
Désolé Poupette... (fallait que je me tape mon petit coup de gueule du dimanche matin!😄)
A plus! Lexa😎
Cette histoire d'écrire au routard, c'est juste une technique pour mieux vendre et donner plus de crédit à leur daube...🤪
le mec se dit:
_"punaise, si les voyageurs écrivent au routard.Bah!Automatiquement les infos doivent etre à jour!" _"les personnes qu'écrivent ce guide doivent faire preuve d'une certaine humilité.Elles n'hésitent pas à remettre en cause leur guide" _"ils ne vont pas marquer d'infos erronés aux risques d'avoir leurs boites aux lettre pleine..." etc
Tiens ça me rappelle cette vieille technique d'approche, genre le mec fait copains avec toi et te fais baisser la garde.Genre:"on peut tous ce dire, on est copains".Et boumbadaboum, on se retrouve avec un de ces mals aux fesses...

Le routard, c'est un peu ça:
"Acheté mon guide! On est sérieux! On est ouvert à toutes les critiques! Mais de toute façon on s'en fou! On a des piles de lettres types à envoyé, si vous n'etes pas content. (Bah!Oui!Le client, il faut qu'il se sente impliqué, utile...Qu'il se sente acteur!)Mais achétez notre guide pépére... Et puis toutes façon c'est pas nous qui nous nous retrouverons dans la merde! L'important c'est que vous achetiez notre guide.Et que ça ne vous laisse pas d'arriére gout dans la bouche! Le guide du routard c'est un peu comme la méthode Coué! (sauf que la méthode Coué dés fois ça le fait!)"
Désolé Poupette... (fallait que je me tape mon petit coup de gueule du dimanche matin!😄)
A plus! Lexa😎
Vous connaissez la région de Nan ? Vous avez apprécié ?
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
En regardant la carte de la Thaïlande, c'est en haut et droite de Chiang Mai... désolé, il n' y a pas de plages... et c'est tant mieux !
Mais, bien entendu, si on est motivé par le farniente, glander, faire la fête, je conçois très bien qu'il vaut mieux aller sur les îles
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
Salut🙂!T'as lu les interventions plus haut de Lepiaf et d'Enzo...Sinon, pour la mise à jour de leur guides avec les forums...Euh!Déjà, quand on leur écrit un courier pour changer une info erroné, ils s'en battent...
Alors tu crois, qu'ils vont s'emmerder à faire des recherches sur les forums...
Tu sais c'est la fameuse régle "qu'en t'as un doute!Y a plus de doute!".Le guide du routard pour moi, il est juger et condamner.🙂
A plus! Lexa😎
Alors tu crois, qu'ils vont s'emmerder à faire des recherches sur les forums...
Tu sais c'est la fameuse régle "qu'en t'as un doute!Y a plus de doute!".Le guide du routard pour moi, il est juger et condamner.🙂
A plus! Lexa😎
Bon, meme si je suis assez d'accord avec toi sur le fond, hje crois que ca devient penible de condamner comme vous le faites tous les guides et ceux qui s'en servent..apres tout, chacun est libre de penser comme il veut et surtot de partir en vacances comme il l, entends, sans avoir a subir les jugements de certains membres ...
Si le Routard est la ou il en est c'est qu'il a servi a pas mal de voyageurs quand meme et il a aussi cet avantage d'aider ceux qui partent pour la premiere fois .
Essayez d'etre un peu plus cool avec le "vieux Rout" et si a pres, il draine des gens sur les autoroutes, ce n'est que mieux pour nous non ????
tchao a tous.🙂
Si le Routard est la ou il en est c'est qu'il a servi a pas mal de voyageurs quand meme et il a aussi cet avantage d'aider ceux qui partent pour la premiere fois .
Essayez d'etre un peu plus cool avec le "vieux Rout" et si a pres, il draine des gens sur les autoroutes, ce n'est que mieux pour nous non ????
tchao a tous.🙂
le problème n'est pas les guides, , mais, entre ce qui disent et la réalité, sans guide et bien on ne vois que la realite, , c'est aussi un choix, , ???
Puis quant on est dans une librairie enface d 'un guide, , et bien on n'a que un son de cloche, , c'est pour cela que VF est bien mieux, 😉
Puis quant on est dans une librairie enface d 'un guide, , et bien on n'a que un son de cloche, , c'est pour cela que VF est bien mieux, 😉
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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C'est evident Thuan mais tu parles comme un vieux routard (excuses moi du jeu de mots) de la Thailamde qui a vecu sur place, ce n'est pas la meme chose pour quelqu'un qui debarque et qui n'a pas de temps pour decouvrir au hasard des rencontres, certaiins n'ont que 15 jours voir sune semaine ...la guide est franchement un plus pour eux je pense meme si les infos sont pas toujours a jour, justement, ca leur fait un peu de piment supplementaire 🙂
il ya pas mal de pays que j'ai visiter, , ou je ne connais même pas la langue, , et ça c'est passée très bien, , peut être mieux que avec un guide même, , car sans guide on est obliger d'aller vers les autres, , c'est une notion qui ce perd, ,
le tourisme créer ses propres ghettos ( les guides et les lieux ), , es bon pour découvrir des pays ??
c'est des questions a se poser avant de se jeter sur un routard sécurisant, , , ,
j'accepte le mot vieux routard, , je suis les 2, , j'assume, 😉
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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100 % d'accord avec toi !!
mais qu'est ce que c'eST ces touristes, routards et autres voyageurs qui ont besoin de cannes anglaises pour avancer !!
un voyage, un pays se mérite; aller y en découvrant, en vous trompant, en vous régalant, pourquoi la réussite doit être obligatoire, combien j'ai de souvenirs de galères, qui se sont transformés en merveilleux souvenirs !!!!
PRENNEZ LE VOL SEC ET LAISSER VOUS GUIDER PAR VOTRE INSTINCT, MEME POUR UNE SEMAINE !!!!!! UN VOYAGE S'EST UNE AVENTURE, UNE RENCONTRE AVEC UN PAYS ET DES GENS !!!!!!! ARRETEZ DE VOULOIR TOUT SAVOIR AVANT ET DE PLANIFIER SEULE L'AVENTURE VOUS DONNERA DES SENSATIONS MERVEILLEUSES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PRENNEZ LE VOL SEC ET LAISSER VOUS GUIDER PAR VOTRE INSTINCT, MEME POUR UNE SEMAINE !!!!!! UN VOYAGE S'EST UNE AVENTURE, UNE RENCONTRE AVEC UN PAYS ET DES GENS !!!!!!! ARRETEZ DE VOULOIR TOUT SAVOIR AVANT ET DE PLANIFIER SEULE L'AVENTURE VOUS DONNERA DES SENSATIONS MERVEILLEUSES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
marc germain
EEEEHHHH LA ..tu crois que tout le monde aime l, aventure ?????😏 Eh bien detrompes- toi .Les mecs ou les gonzesses qui viennent en Thailande pour l, enorme majorite de l, aventure ils s, en tapent grave ...Soit c, est le voyage organise, soit c, est pour le cul ou la fete defonce << en gros plus de 95% .>>.Les 4% qui restent c, est avec le routard ou LP et c, est loin d.etre les pires ...puis donc il reste 1% qui fait pas mal de monde sur le nombre total de touristes .... On y inclura les autres categories disont culturelles 😎...
Apres chacun est libre de passer ses vacances ou son temps libre comme il l, entend ///Aucune critique de ma part, juste une constatation ....ne pas juger est une vertue .😛
Maintenant la definition de << l, aventurier >> chacun la sienne ..😉 !! Mais bon les temps ont bien changes🤪
Apres chacun est libre de passer ses vacances ou son temps libre comme il l, entend ///Aucune critique de ma part, juste une constatation ....ne pas juger est une vertue .😛
Maintenant la definition de << l, aventurier >> chacun la sienne ..😉 !! Mais bon les temps ont bien changes🤪
sur l, arbre qui donne des pommes il n, y a pas de citrons
Partant en Thaïlande fin Novembre, savez-vous si le nouveau Routard est sorti ?
oui, il est sorti... dans les grands circuits (Fnac, Virgin)... mais quelle désillusion il n'y a pas grand changement avec le précédent... Le Routard ne se reposerait-il pas un peu sur ses lauriers !!!🙁😛
oui, il est sorti... dans les grands circuits (Fnac, Virgin)... mais quelle désillusion il n'y a pas grand changement avec le précédent... Le Routard ne se reposerait-il pas un peu sur ses lauriers !!!🙁😛
Petite flamme
c'est dommage que tu ai raison, ce serait bien que les 1% soit au moins 50% ; et si je voyage depuis longtemps ( 26 ans tout est relatif) j'ai vu c'est vrai un changement de la mentalité des voyageurs!
il est loin le temps d'hikkaduwa en 1981, comprendrons ceux qui connaissent, tant pis pour les autres !
marc germain
Et pourtant c, est comme ca !!!!! Les gens veulent pas s, emmerder, ils veulent du sur, ou de la detente sans se prendre la tete ...voyages organises.com ou le guide machin ou faire la tefeu en se defoncant la cafetiere ou s, eclater avec une jeune et belle siaminette .😛
Alors niveau aventure comme tu dis ca se perd un peu ....😐..Quand aux touristes Asiatiques alors eux c, est pire, ils ne descendent meme plus du bus pour prendre les fotos, tous est programme a la minute pres, , , ,
Les francais ou francophones en general sont les moins pires des europeens sur ce sujet la ..ne nous plaignons pas 😉
Alors niveau aventure comme tu dis ca se perd un peu ....😐..Quand aux touristes Asiatiques alors eux c, est pire, ils ne descendent meme plus du bus pour prendre les fotos, tous est programme a la minute pres, , , ,
Les francais ou francophones en general sont les moins pires des europeens sur ce sujet la ..ne nous plaignons pas 😉
sur l, arbre qui donne des pommes il n, y a pas de citrons
Ouais enfin, on est tous conecté sur VoyageForum pour prendre et donner des informations sur tel ou tel pays, adresse d'un bon hotel ou d'un paysage à voir ; le forum sert donc de guide . L'aventure la dedans n'a rien à voir ; je parts avec ma femme et mes deux petits et ce n'est pas le fait de partir avec le routard ou pas qui fait qu'on est un aventurier . Y'en a pas ici des aventurier ; on essaye de passer des bons moments en famille dans un pays qui puisse nous enrichir, nous faire découvrir d'autres cultures et voila . Après que le routard ou le lonely ne soit pas à jour c'est un autre problème .A plus .
non ce n'est pas ce que je veux faire croire aux visiteurs de VF....non non🙂, c'est ce que j'ai verifier, que je le sais et c'est ce qui assez logique en somme.
bcp de lettres passent ailleurs que dans les nouvelles reedition des guides....mais ne prenons pas nos experiences comme une generalité.
dans le domaine du voyage: il y a des milliers et des milliers d'autres personnes.....
et que tous ne peuvent pas forcement etre ecouter.
un guide n'est qu'un guide. je crois que vous en voulez un peu trop.
et en essayant de moderer son orgueil vis à vis des 14 euros 50 que l'on a debourser et qui nous offrent le drtois en tant que client d'avoir le top du top.....on pourrai peut etre relativiser et regarder le boulot qu'il y a derrière.
c'est facile de gueuler en tant que client, qu'acheteur ayant son bon droit....
un erreur dans un guide ne me gachera pas mon voyage.
et pourtant si j'avais suivi la moralité de certains....ca aurai pu etre le cas.
vos commentaire en generale ne sont pas à l'opposé de ce que je peux penser. mais ce genre de reflexion sur le bon deroulement d'un voyage (que dans ce cas j'appelerai "vacances")...c'est un peu fort.
un guide n'est qu'un guide. je crois que vous en voulez un peu trop.
et en essayant de moderer son orgueil vis à vis des 14 euros 50 que l'on a debourser et qui nous offrent le drtois en tant que client d'avoir le top du top.....on pourrai peut etre relativiser et regarder le boulot qu'il y a derrière.
c'est facile de gueuler en tant que client, qu'acheteur ayant son bon droit....
un erreur dans un guide ne me gachera pas mon voyage.
et pourtant si j'avais suivi la moralité de certains....ca aurai pu etre le cas.
vos commentaire en generale ne sont pas à l'opposé de ce que je peux penser. mais ce genre de reflexion sur le bon deroulement d'un voyage (que dans ce cas j'appelerai "vacances")...c'est un peu fort.
"not all who wander are lost"
Ce que je trouve un peu fort, c'est ta défense systématique du Routard.
Et puis quel amalgame tu fais ! où vois-tu de l'orgueil dans mes remarques ?
Que veux-tu insinuer avec "la moralité de certains" alors que c'est à moi que tu réponds ?
c'est ce que j'ai verifier, que je le sais et c'est ce qui assez logique en somme.
Tu pourrais préciser STP. Tu travailles pour le Routard ? Ou ton compagnon ?
un guide n'est qu'un guide. je crois que vous en voulez un peu trop.
Je suis bien d'accord sur le fait de n'accorder à un guide que l'importance qu'il doit avoir. Ce que je ne cesse de répéter, c'est que, par rapport à ses concurrents, le guide du Routard de la Thaïlande est imprécis, bourré d'erreurs et peu mis à jour. Si je l'affirme, c'est parce que je l'ai vérifié sur place.
Si tu me réponds, réponds à ces critiques et pas en élucubrant.
c'est ce que j'ai verifier, que je le sais et c'est ce qui assez logique en somme.
Tu pourrais préciser STP. Tu travailles pour le Routard ? Ou ton compagnon ?
un guide n'est qu'un guide. je crois que vous en voulez un peu trop.
Je suis bien d'accord sur le fait de n'accorder à un guide que l'importance qu'il doit avoir. Ce que je ne cesse de répéter, c'est que, par rapport à ses concurrents, le guide du Routard de la Thaïlande est imprécis, bourré d'erreurs et peu mis à jour. Si je l'affirme, c'est parce que je l'ai vérifié sur place.
Si tu me réponds, réponds à ces critiques et pas en élucubrant.
Salut....
Je voulais l'acheter...Tu peux m'avoir un prix?Merci
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After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
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Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise