Hello,
We’re heading to Thailand for 26 days (excluding flights) next July with our two teens (12 and 15 years old).
My husband and I have been there several times before they were born—so that’s 15 years ago—and I’m a bit worried about some of the changes that might have happened since, especially with the rise in tourism...
I’d also like to keep a pace that allows us to settle in a bit and enjoy local life beyond just the main sights. Plus, we’re pretty active.
For now, our plan looks like this:
Arrival in Bangkok, where we’re thinking of spending several days (minimum 4)
Chiang Mai for about a week
2 or 3 islands in the Gulf
Return to Bangkok for 2 days before departure.
We’re pretty set on Bangkok and Chiang Mai, but we’re unsure about which islands to visit—I’ve read such mixed things that I’m even wondering if we should consider the coast instead.
Organization-wise, I’d love any tips or feedback on whether we need to book in advance at this time of year, which transport options to prioritize (train, bus, or plane), and of course, any suggestions for stops or routes.
Thanks in advance to anyone kind enough to help us prepare for this amazing trip!
Hi Songsam,
I’d love to hear any tips and experiences you have—it’d be really great if you could share them!
My teens love the water and snorkeling, so it’ll be tough not to spend a few days doing just that...
Arrival in Bangkok where we plan to spend several days (minimum 4)
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return for 2 days in Bangkok before departure.
Six days total in exhausting Bangkok might be too much. I wouldn’t spend any there at the start* and would visit it at the end for 3-4 nights max.
* Examples right from arrival day: settle in the much more relaxing and nearby Ayutthaya or take an immediate flight (or overnight train) to Chiang Mai.
My teens love water and snorkelling, so it’ll be tough not to dedicate a few days to that...
"A few days"—sure, but two-thirds of the trip... 😕
Suggestions for non-beach stops:
I’ve stayed in most of these places multiple times, sometimes for several weeks. These towns or villages are worth visiting because they’re either very charming and peaceful, offer several sights to see (including—or especially—in their surrounding areas), or both. All have accommodations and are accessible by public transport. None are on the typical tourist trail.
Worth at least 2 nights:
Khao Yai National Park
Khong Jiam (or Chiam)
Phimai
Nong Khai
Pak Chom
Thong Pha Phum
Mae Sot
Mae Sariang
Chiang Saen
Phrae
Phayao
Trang
Phattalung
Worth at least 3 nights:
Sri Chiangmai
Chiang Khan
Loei
Sangkhlaburi
Tha Song Yang*
Mae Hong Son
Soppong/Pang Mapha
Tha Ton
Mae Salong
Thung Chang
Phetchaburi
Nakhon Si Thammarat
Worth at least 4 nights:
Nan
* Not to be confused with Ban Tha Song Yang, on the same road, which also deserves a spot on this list but sadly has no accommodations—I had to sleep in a soup vendor’s shop.
If you pick some of these stops, we can easily help you connect them into a coherent itinerary, including other places not on this list, based on available transport.
Thanks so much for your feedback.
I’ll keep your advice about Bangkok in mind, and I think we’ll head straight to Chiang Mai.
I’ll check out the destinations you suggested.
On previous trips, moving every 2-3 days ended up feeling a bit tiring, so we’d like to find places where we can stay a little longer and explore the surrounding area.
Chiang Mai seems like a good first option—do you have any other suggestions for us?
We’d like to find places where we can stay a bit longer and explore the surrounding area.
Chiang Mai seems like a first option—do you have any other suggestions?
Yes, just one. But a second long stop will mean cutting down your beach time: how many of your 14 beach days are you willing to give up?
My first post was a bit confusing—I had only listed the safe stops (BKK and Chiang Mai), but the rest wasn’t necessarily beach-focused. It was more of a blank slate with a little beach time to plan!
What’s your idea for another key stop?
Places where we can stay a bit longer and explore the surrounding area.
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What’s your idea for another key stop?
With these criteria, besides Chiang Mai, the only other long stop I see is Kanchanaburi.
Things to see/do around Kan:
- The ruins of Phrasat Muang Sing Historical Park, the westernmost "castle" (translation of "phrasat") of the ancient Angkorian empire (half-day round trip by train to Thakilek and back + 5-minute motosai ride included),
- The Wangpo viaduct/Tham Krasae/Death Railway Bridge (three names for the same place), a solid half-day round trip: 1.5-hour train ride to Tham Krasae + 5 km uphill walk + 1-hour public bus or minivan back to Kan included,
- Erawan Falls, a full-day trip with 2.5–3 hours of public bus round trip included. Swimmable,
- Wat Tham Seua, a temple with very unusual architecture for Thailand, a short half-day trip. Reachable by bus + motosai or arrange a driver (ask your accommodation),
- Elephant World Kanchanaburi*, a full-day experience. They pick you up from your accommodation and bring you back. https://www.elephantsworld.org/ ,
- Kayaking down the River Kwai, distance varies—check with agencies, half-day activity.
Plus what there is to see in town.
* There’s a similar activity in Chiang Mai, but since the latter also offers other kid-friendly options (downhill biking on Mt. Suthep, treetop walks** + ziplining, etc.) that Kan doesn’t, I’d recommend doing the elephants in Kan to spread things out.
** It has a name I’ve forgotten.
Transport:
Bangkok to Chiang Mai by bus, train (book in advance), or flight (book ahead—Bangkok has two airports: BKK and DMK). Main Bangkok train station: Krung Thep Aphiwat.
Chiang Mai to Kanchanaburi direct: 2–3 daily buses (one daytime, 1–2 overnight), 12-hour trip.
Kanchanaburi to the south without going back through Bangkok: 55-minute bus 81a/c1 (every 20 minutes) to Ban Pong, then a 10–12-minute walk to the train station, where overnight trains depart for major southern destinations (train-accessible only), e.g., Chumphon or Surat Thani for Koh Tao/Phangan/Samui.
Around Kanchanaburi:
Wat Tham Seua (2 photos)
Wangpo Viaduct from the train driver’s cabin along the River Kwai Noi:
Fleeting encounters:
Muang Kan (Kanchanaburi town):
Bus 81 Kanchanaburi–Ban Pong–Bangkok Sai Tai:
Chiang Mai–Kanchanaburi bus:
One of the two museums worth seeing:
The famous Saphan Mae Nam Kwae with a train on it and kayakers below:
Hi there,
Thank you so much for the tips and lovely photos! Kanchanaburi seems like a really interesting option—we’ll look into it in more detail.
Have a great weekend,
Stéphanie
Hi there,
At this stage, we're planning to take a flight to Chiang Mai as soon as we arrive in Bangkok. We’d stay there for a few days before heading down to Sukhothai and then Kanchanaburi, taking our time to explore the surrounding areas. We’ll be using buses for transportation.
After that, depending on the weather, we’d like to head to some islands or the coast.
As for accommodations, is it recommended to book in advance during this period?
Best regards
We’re planning a flight to Chiang Mai as soon as we land in Bangkok.
Have you already bought the flight ticket?
Sukhothai then Kanchanaburi, taking time to explore the surrounding areas. We’ll be using buses for the connections.
Direct bus Chiang Mai–Sukhothai: yep, ~5–6 per day.
But no direct bus Sukhothai–Kanchanaburi. Two possible options with one transfer:
- Morning or overnight (departures until ~11 PM): bus Sukhothai–Bangkok Mo Chit, then a 10-minute walk to Mo Chit Minivans, and from there minivans to Kan every 20–30 minutes. In these minivans, either you hold your luggage on your lap or buy an extra seat to put it on. Total time: 9–10 hours + transfer time.
- Morning: bus from Sukhothai to Tak* bus terminal to catch the Chiang Mai–Kanchanaburi bus, which stops there around 11 AM. Total time: ~8.5 hours + transfer time.
* Satani Lotmê Taa (the “k” isn’t pronounced).
About accommodations—is it recommended to book in advance at this time of year?
If you don’t have a specific place in mind, no need.
Chiang Mai, festival at Wat Chedi Luang (x3):
C.Mai, Lanna Architecture Center (x2):
C.Mai, Tha Phae* Gate:
* Tapê
exterior:
and interior:
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we’re considering a flight to as soon as we arrive in Bangkok .
Have you already bought the flight ticket?
Sukhothai then Kanchanaburi, taking time to explore the surrounding areas. We’ll use buses for the connections.
Direct bus from Chiang Mai to Sukhothai, no problem—about 5-6 departures a day.
But no direct bus from Sukhothai to Kanchanaburi. Two possible options with one transfer:
- Morning or overnight (departures until around 11 PM): bus from Sukhothai to Bangkok Mo Chit, then a 10-minute walk to Mo Chit Minivans, where minivans to Kanchanaburi leave every 20-30 minutes. In these minivans, you either hold your luggage on your lap or buy an extra seat to put it on. Total time: 9 to 10 hours + transfer time.
- Morning: bus from Sukhothai to Tak bus terminal* to catch the Chiang Mai-Kanchanaburi bus, which stops there around 11 AM. Total time: about 8.5 hours + transfer time.
*Satani Lotmê Taa (the "k" is silent).
About accommodations—is it recommended to book in advance at this time of year?
If you don’t have a specific place in mind, no need.
Hi Songsam,
We haven’t bought the BKK to Chiang Mai flight yet—I’m thinking of booking it soon with Air Asia, taking a flight 3 hours after we arrive from France.
For the Sukhothai to Kanchanaburi route, I didn’t realize it’d be so long… maybe a stopover between the two?
the BKK to Chiang Mai flight, I’m thinking of doing it soon with Air Asia, taking a flight 3 hours after our arrival from France.
If it’s an AirAsia flight from BKK (6 departures/day), 3 hours is okay (it’s even a bit too much).
If it’s an AirAsia flight from DMK (17 departures/day), 3 hours between the international flight landing and the domestic flight taking off won’t be reasonably safe (traffic jams, shuttle cancellation, etc.). Allow at least 4 hours.
Free shuttles run from BKK to DMK on the arrivals level, opposite exit 3. You’ll need to show proof of your flight from DMK.
It’d be better to find an AirAsia flight departing from BKK.
Which airline are you flying from Paris to BKK with?
For the Sukhothai-Kanchanaburi route, I didn’t realize it would be so long... maybe a stopover between the two?
In another discussion, Jojoone1 suggested Uthai Thani, but getting there from Sukhothai and then on to Kanchanaburi by bus is a bit unclear.
Alternatively, spend a few days in Ayutthaya, but two ruin stops in a row might wear out your group. There are a few buses a day from Sukhothai to Ayutthaya, then a daily tourist shuttle from Ayutthaya to Kan (book through your accommodation the day before or earlier) or a bus from Ayutthaya to Suphanburi plus a bus from Suphanburi to Kan.
We're flying with Air Saudia, then I’m counting on a domestic flight from the same airport (BKK).
I’m also worried that Sukhothai and Ayutthaya might be a bit redundant... We picked Sukhothai because it seemed less touristy, but the connection to Kanchanaburi is a bit of a concern.
Would a taxi be an option? With four people, it might be worth it.
we had chosen Sukhothai because it seemed less touristy
No, it's the opposite. Sukhothai is the more touristy of the two because all the basic organized tours on the planet stop there, which isn't the case for Ayutthaya. If you end up choosing the latter, you could take the Chiang Mai-Ayutthaya sleeper train and then do as mentioned above for Kanchanaburi (or via Bangkok Mo Chit minivans).
Would a taxi be an option? For 4 people, it might be worth it.
For city-to-city taxis, I don’t know much. After searching online, I found prices ranging from ~190 to ~220 € for 4 people, which means you’ll probably find something 25-30% cheaper on the spot (by asking your accommodation to arrange it, for example).
For comparison, the total cost of the Sukhothai-Tak and Tak-Kan buses will be around ~15-16 € per person.
Note that for nearly four-fifths of the trip (Tak-Kan), the bus is VIP class—isn’t that an argument that would make the journey physically less taxing for those with sensitive constitutions?
Thanks again for the details. I thought Ayutthaya’s "proximity" to the capital made it more touristy. How much time do you think we should spend there?
The train connection from Chiang Mai sounds great, and then continuing by bus or van.
I have no doubts about the comfort of the buses, and it’ll work perfectly for our happy group.
Thanks so much for sharing your photos—we can’t wait to be there!
I’ve got a new question: which website do you use to book trains?
I made an account on the national railway’s site, but the prices seem higher than with some third-party resellers...
I created an account on the national carrier’s website, but the prices seem higher than with some third-party sites...
Could you share the link to the national carrier’s website, please? Your comment surprised me, so I’d like to make sure we’re thinking of the same one.
For bookings, the site you used does redirect to the one I recommend. I assume that’s where you must have created an account: https://dticket.railway.co.th/DTicketPublicWeb/home/Home.
Which sites did you find better prices on?
When you book a sleeper berth, keep the following points in mind:
- the type of train (ranked from cheapest to most expensive): Rapid, Express, or Special Express,
- the class:
1st (air-conditioned),
2nd air-conditioned,
2nd “fan” (i.e., non-air-conditioned, but unfortunately this option is now only available on certain trains heading south).
In both air-conditioned and non-air-conditioned 2nd-class sleepers, lower berths are more expensive than upper ones.
All these factors come into play when comparing prices across different sites.
I ran some simulations for a Chiang Mai–Ayutthaya trip on 15/07 in a 2nd-class air-conditioned sleeper on train SP10 (the most expensive but also the one that arrives earliest), price per person:
Official SRT site (national railway company): lower berth 1016 Baht, upper berth 916 Baht
Baolau site: same as SRT. Since I couldn’t proceed further in the simulation, I didn’t see if any fees are added at the end.
12GO site: 1300 Baht. It doesn’t specify whether it’s for a lower or upper berth.
Which site do you use to book the train?
I don’t book in advance but do it on the spot at the station or through an agency because I know the country well—including backup plans—and since I don’t book accommodations either, I can change my plans in 5 minutes if the train is full, even switching destinations. I don’t plan any itinerary before leaving, not even the first step.
For your trip, book any journey on the Chiang Mai–(Ayutthaya)–Bangkok line as early as possible because all organized tours use it too (they take buses on the way up).
Hi Songsam,
Thanks again for all the details and addresses.
I went through my history and can't find which site seemed cheaper—I must’ve mixed it up with bus routes. It makes sense that the national carrier’s site would have the best prices, and that’s what I’d read too.
I’ve got another question (don’t hesitate to tell me if it’s too much): I’m thinking about options after Kanchanaburi and was wondering if you’ve ever been to Khao Sok National Park?
Best regards,
No, I’ve never been to Khao Sok National Park, but it’s a name that comes up pretty often in the forum—I think others can give you their thoughts.
Make sure to check the weather in July.
As for transport from Kanchanaburi, it’d be easy: bus 81 to Ban Pong + overnight train to Surat Thani + 2-3h by bus.
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Nou souhaitons nous rendre de Chiang Rai a Luang Prabang en novembre prochain .
Pour cela nous aimerions prendre un slow boat a partir de Chiang Khong ou plutôt de Houeisay au Laos avec un stop pour la nuit a Pakbeng .
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We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
Après lectures et recherches, nous envisageons les étapes suivantes au Cambodge en janvier 2027 :
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (A/R)
Je m'interroge sur le sens de ces étapes, ce qui peut également conditionner nos vols internationaux.
Soit un aller/retour depuis Phnom Penh dans l'ordre ci-dessus.
Soit un atterrissage à Siem Reap avec l'ordre suivant :
Cette 2ème option nous éviterait le trajet Battambang - PP - Kampot mais suppose de faire un A/R Battambang depuis Siem Reap et de placer le "clou du voyage" (Angkor) au début de notre séjour..
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips:
Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred.
PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront).
Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight)
· Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok)
· Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x")
· Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling.
For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees?
We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo.
Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before:
- Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees.
Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands.
Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way).
Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan.
Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide).
Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre.
Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island.
Day 10 – Head to Semporna.
Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai.
Day 15 – Bohey Dulang.
Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous.
I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing.
I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture.
But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary.
If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!