Aéroport de Bangkok vers la gare: Hualamphong ou Don Muang?
by Brigandou
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Notre voyage n'est prévu que pour la mi juillet, mais j'aimerais éclaircir un petit point pour me permettre d' organiser notre itinéraire.
Nous arrivons le matin de bonne heure à Bgk et souhaitons passer notre 1ère nuit à Ayuthaya. Le site "seat 61" (super!) nous indique deux gares au départ de Bgk: Hualamphong ou Don Muang.
Par exemple: Hualamphong: 14h30 / Don Muang 15h19 / Ayuthaya 16h.
Laquelle de ces deux gares sera la plus pratique depuis l'aéroport? Qu'en pensez-vous? Quelle est la meilleure solution?
J'ai vu dans un post que le bus express AE4 pour Hualamphong a été supprimé... qu'en est-il? A deux est-ce qu'un taxi pour l'une ou l'autre gare est une bonne idée?
Nous aimerions autant que possible éviter Bgk centre pour ce premier jour...
Merci à tous pour vos conseils.
Brigandou
La gare de Don Muang est la gare de l'ancien aéroport (mais peut-être quand juillet 2007, vous atterirez ici puisqu'il doit réouvrir). De l'aéroport de Suvanambhoumi (le nouvel) il est plus simple de prendre un taxi meter vers la gare central de Hualamphang.
DUC
Merci pour ta réponse rapide. Comme nous voyageons par la Thaï, je pense que nous arriverons à Suvanambhoumi. Je vérifierai qq jours avant le départ...
Aurais-tu une idée de la durée du trajet le matin de bonne heure?
Nous arrivons le matin vers 6 heures... pourrions-nous être à la gare pour le train de 8h30...., ça me parrait chaud... Sinon on prendra celui de 14h30 et en attendant on se promènera autour de la gare. Des idées pour passer le temps?
Merci pour les infos.
Brigandou
Un bon truc pour arriver à 8H30 à la gare tu te fais déposer à la station de métro Khlong-Toeï (KHO) ou Queen-Sirikit-National (SIR) et de là en métro tu as 4 ou 5 station pour Hua-Lamphong (HUA) en moins de 7 minutes et la gare juste en face à 200 mètres . En procédant comme ça tu gagnes environ 30 minutes en taxi .
Sinon si jamais tu le rates pour passer le temps jusqu'à 14H30 vas dans le quartier de Chinatown pas loin de la gare c'est à côté .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Merci Marc pour ta réponse rapide, précise et complète... On suivra ton conseil. Je suppose qu'on peut acheter des tickets à l'unité dans toutes les stations.
Brigandou
Merci Marc pour ta réponse rapide, précise et complète... On suivra ton conseil. Je suppose qu'on peut acheter des tickets à l'unité dans toutes les stations.
Oui, pour ton trajet de métro 10 bahts .😉
Oui, pour ton trajet de métro 10 bahts .😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
taxi a moins d;être un gros radin
Non Khun Thuan, son souci c'est de pouvoir choper le train de 8H30 sinon ils prendront celui de 14H 😉
Non Khun Thuan, son souci c'est de pouvoir choper le train de 8H30 sinon ils prendront celui de 14H 😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Dis donc Brigandou, c'est bien compliqué votre truc.
Pour aller a Ayuthaya, il y a des trains au moins toutes les heures: pourquoi attendre 14h? Je n'ai pas bien compris.
Pour aller a la gare Hualompong, depuis Suvanapoum, il suffit de prendre la navette pour la gare de Hua Takhe (c'est la gare a coté de l'aéroport), et hop dans le train, pas d'embouteillages, ni de taxis, et le métro avec des bagages ce n'est pas très pratique (peut-etre meme qu'on ne laisse pas entrer s'il y a trop de bagages a l'heure de pointe du matin?).
Voila comment ca se passerait: A 6 heures, on vous jette de l'avion, a peine réveillé, a 6h45 vous etes admis dans le Royaume, récupération des bagages a 7h15 dans le bus-navette pour Hua Takhe, (a la gare de Hua Takhe acheter aussi le billet de train pour Ayutaya, on peut effectivement acheter les billets de train dans n'importe quelle gare, meme pour les 3ieme classe) a 7h35 dans le train No 388 a Hua Takhe en direction de Hua Lumpong (ne pas se tromper de sens). {Ou dans le train suivant No 378 de 8h05}. a 8h35 {ou 9h20}, arrivée a Hua Lompong, et hop, on enchaine: a 9h25 départ dans le train No 201, {ou le No 3 à 10h50}, a 11h24 {respectivement a 12h14} arrivée a Ayuttaya.
Brin de toilette puis déjeuner au bord du Chao Praya (a Ayutaya donc, si on m'a suivi).
Le Airport Express (AE4) est parallele a la voie férrée: c'est peut-etre pour ca qu'il aurait été supprimé? En plus ce train c'est beaucoup moins cher (une dizaine de Bahts contre 150 par le AE). [=> et comme ca on ne voit pas qui est gros radin ou pas 😉 ]
seat61 est très bien pour les grandes lignes, mais il ne parle pas des petites lignes locales, pourtant très utiles.
Il y a une suggestion un peu plus agréable, c'est de prendre les bateaux de Bangkok a Ayutaya. Mais il faut connaitre (le week end je crois, et par les hotels...).
Autre remarque, la Thai Airways n'a pas manifesté son souhait de faire arriver ses avions internationaux a Don Muang. Enfin, jusqu'a maintenant.
A Hua Lompong, bien regarder les horaires lumineux, éviter tout achat dans les agences touristiques de la mezzanine (réputées pour les escroqueries), ce ne sont pas des agences de la TAT, mais des agences privés avec une licence de la TAT. Dans la gare, y a une superette, une consigne pour les bagages, des douches, la TV dans la zone d'attente du hall climatisé...
Donc pas trop de probleme pour votre voyage, si ce n'est qu'il y a 3 a 4 heures de train! Et le bus depuis Mochit serait a peine plus court.
Pour aller a Ayuthaya, il y a des trains au moins toutes les heures: pourquoi attendre 14h? Je n'ai pas bien compris.
Pour aller a la gare Hualompong, depuis Suvanapoum, il suffit de prendre la navette pour la gare de Hua Takhe (c'est la gare a coté de l'aéroport), et hop dans le train, pas d'embouteillages, ni de taxis, et le métro avec des bagages ce n'est pas très pratique (peut-etre meme qu'on ne laisse pas entrer s'il y a trop de bagages a l'heure de pointe du matin?).
Voila comment ca se passerait: A 6 heures, on vous jette de l'avion, a peine réveillé, a 6h45 vous etes admis dans le Royaume, récupération des bagages a 7h15 dans le bus-navette pour Hua Takhe, (a la gare de Hua Takhe acheter aussi le billet de train pour Ayutaya, on peut effectivement acheter les billets de train dans n'importe quelle gare, meme pour les 3ieme classe) a 7h35 dans le train No 388 a Hua Takhe en direction de Hua Lumpong (ne pas se tromper de sens). {Ou dans le train suivant No 378 de 8h05}. a 8h35 {ou 9h20}, arrivée a Hua Lompong, et hop, on enchaine: a 9h25 départ dans le train No 201, {ou le No 3 à 10h50}, a 11h24 {respectivement a 12h14} arrivée a Ayuttaya.
Brin de toilette puis déjeuner au bord du Chao Praya (a Ayutaya donc, si on m'a suivi).
Le Airport Express (AE4) est parallele a la voie férrée: c'est peut-etre pour ca qu'il aurait été supprimé? En plus ce train c'est beaucoup moins cher (une dizaine de Bahts contre 150 par le AE). [=> et comme ca on ne voit pas qui est gros radin ou pas 😉 ]
seat61 est très bien pour les grandes lignes, mais il ne parle pas des petites lignes locales, pourtant très utiles.
Il y a une suggestion un peu plus agréable, c'est de prendre les bateaux de Bangkok a Ayutaya. Mais il faut connaitre (le week end je crois, et par les hotels...).
Autre remarque, la Thai Airways n'a pas manifesté son souhait de faire arriver ses avions internationaux a Don Muang. Enfin, jusqu'a maintenant.
A Hua Lompong, bien regarder les horaires lumineux, éviter tout achat dans les agences touristiques de la mezzanine (réputées pour les escroqueries), ce ne sont pas des agences de la TAT, mais des agences privés avec une licence de la TAT. Dans la gare, y a une superette, une consigne pour les bagages, des douches, la TV dans la zone d'attente du hall climatisé...
Donc pas trop de probleme pour votre voyage, si ce n'est qu'il y a 3 a 4 heures de train! Et le bus depuis Mochit serait a peine plus court.
Encore une fois merci à tous! 🙂
Je m'étais déjà rendu compte que VF était très bien renseigné, mais alors là je suis bluffée!!!
Ca va faire un peu grandiloquent ce que je vais dire, mais en ces temps incertains que des "inconnus"prennent le temps de faciliter la vie à d'autres sans qu'il soit question d'en tirer autre chose que la réciproque ça me plaît bien....
Je prends bien sûr en compte tous vos conseil et je penserai à vous le 18 juillet au petit matin dans la moiteur de Bangkok😉
Brigandou
Il y a un bus dont j'ai oublié le numéro qui fait la ligne entre Souvanapoum et Victory Monument en passant par l'ancien aéroport;
les résidents de Bangkok devraient pouvoir trouver le n° de ce bus plus facilement que moi.
Donc, si vous prenez ce bus, il ne vous restera plus qu'à descendre à la station Don Muang;
de là, vous serez à quelques minutes de la gare ferroviaire de Don Muang, ce qui vous évitera d'aller jusqu'à Hua Lamphong et surtout vous fera gagner pas mal de temps car le train d'Ayuttaya au départ d'Hua Lamphong passe obligatoirement par la gare de Don Muang.
Kiti, connais tu le n° de ce bus? et encore mieux ses horaires?
Kiti, connais tu le n° de ce bus? et encore mieux ses horaires?
Le sage supporte aequo animo les coups de l'adversite
😉 Bonsoir.
Au sujet des Bus EXPRESS AIRPORT de l Aeroprt SUVARNABHUMI :
les AE1, AE2, AE3 et AE4 ... Celui de la Gare Hualumphong etait
arrete ... J ai ete oblige de prendre le BUS 511 puis le Metro MRT.
A l arrivee au HALL ARRIVAL INTENATIONAL ou DOMESTIC
Descendre au niveau inferieur du Hall ARRIVAL
Aller a la PORTE / GATE No. 8 tu trouvera leur 2 Comptoir des Bus
EXPRESS AIRPORT un a l interieur et un a l exterieur - pour acheter
ton Billet a 150 THB pour aller a BANGKOK et tu pourras verifier toi meme !
Exact Henri, il y a le 554 (terminus Dom Muang, et qui passe par le periphérique)
Il y a aussi le 555 qui passe a coté destination Rangsit, mais qui va inutilement vers Victory Monument. Parce que le matin en semaine, j'ai un peu peur que les routes soient encombrées en allant par là bas Victory Monument.
Donc a Dom Muang, Brigandou tu descends du bus 554, prends la passerelle au dessus de la voie rapide et gagne la gare escalier/ ascenseur 50m de passerelle. Achat des tickets. Voila. Le train passe a Dom Muang 45mn après le depart de Hua Lompong.
nnthanh, Donc encore un témoignage de AE4 qui ne roule plus. Mais le 511, la BMTA dit sur son site, qu'il vient de Samut Prakan (Crocodile farm), Bagna, Ekamai, Sukumvit, Democracy...
Nnthanh, est-ce que ce bus 511 passe a l'aéroport maintenant ou est-ce que tu as été le récupérer plus loin en taxi? (On ne parle pas du 551, n'est-ce pas?)
BMTA: bus 511
Il y a aussi le 555 qui passe a coté destination Rangsit, mais qui va inutilement vers Victory Monument. Parce que le matin en semaine, j'ai un peu peur que les routes soient encombrées en allant par là bas Victory Monument.
Donc a Dom Muang, Brigandou tu descends du bus 554, prends la passerelle au dessus de la voie rapide et gagne la gare escalier/ ascenseur 50m de passerelle. Achat des tickets. Voila. Le train passe a Dom Muang 45mn après le depart de Hua Lompong.
nnthanh, Donc encore un témoignage de AE4 qui ne roule plus. Mais le 511, la BMTA dit sur son site, qu'il vient de Samut Prakan (Crocodile farm), Bagna, Ekamai, Sukumvit, Democracy...
Nnthanh, est-ce que ce bus 511 passe a l'aéroport maintenant ou est-ce que tu as été le récupérer plus loin en taxi? (On ne parle pas du 551, n'est-ce pas?)
BMTA: bus 511
Voila comment ca se passerait:
A 6 heures, on vous jette de l'avion, a peine réveillé,
a 6h45 vous etes admis dans le Royaume, récupération des bagages
a 7h15 dans le bus-navette pour Hua Takhe,
(a la gare de Hua Takhe acheter aussi le billet de train pour Ayutaya, on peut effectivement acheter les billets de train dans n'importe quelle gare, meme pour les 3ieme classe)
a 7h35 dans le train No 388 a Hua Takhe en direction de Hua Lumpong (ne pas se tromper de sens). {Ou dans le train suivant No 378 de 8h05}.
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Salut Kiti,
Sais-tu où va ce train dans l'autre sens, c'est-à-dire venant de Bangkok ? Est-ce qu'il va juste un peu plus loin, ou bien alors en direction de Pattaya, ou Aranya Prathet à la frontière cambodgienne) ? Il peut représenter un bon plan pour ceux qui veulent poursuivre leur itinéraire (ou plutôt l'entamer) dans cette direction...
Salut Kiti,
Sais-tu où va ce train dans l'autre sens, c'est-à-dire venant de Bangkok ? Est-ce qu'il va juste un peu plus loin, ou bien alors en direction de Pattaya, ou Aranya Prathet à la frontière cambodgienne) ? Il peut représenter un bon plan pour ceux qui veulent poursuivre leur itinéraire (ou plutôt l'entamer) dans cette direction...
Pat.
Salut Patrice,
Le train 388 vient de Chachoengsao, a peine 60km de Bangkok. A Chachoengsao il y a une bifurcation vers Aranyaprathet, et une vers Pataya.
Pour aller a Chachoengsao, il y a 13 trains quotidiens.
Vers Aranyaprathet, il y a 2 trains quotidiens No 275 dep a 5h55, passe a Hua Takhe a 7h08 No 279 dep a 13h05, passe a Hua Takhe a 13h48
Pour Pataya, un seul train quotidien, terminus Ban Plu Ta Luang (presque Satahip) No 283 dep de BKK a 6h55, Hua Takhe a 8h14, Pattaya a 10h35, Ban Plu Ta Luang a 11h20
pour une fois les horaires en anglais sont apparamment corrects: horaires ligne Est - mais les arrets aux gares secondaires ne sont pas indiquées. carte de la province de Chonburi
image du site de la SRT: http://www.railway.co.th/images/maptrain/east.gif
Pour aller a Chachoengsao, il y a 13 trains quotidiens.
Vers Aranyaprathet, il y a 2 trains quotidiens No 275 dep a 5h55, passe a Hua Takhe a 7h08 No 279 dep a 13h05, passe a Hua Takhe a 13h48
Pour Pataya, un seul train quotidien, terminus Ban Plu Ta Luang (presque Satahip) No 283 dep de BKK a 6h55, Hua Takhe a 8h14, Pattaya a 10h35, Ban Plu Ta Luang a 11h20
pour une fois les horaires en anglais sont apparamment corrects: horaires ligne Est - mais les arrets aux gares secondaires ne sont pas indiquées. carte de la province de Chonburi
image du site de la SRT: http://www.railway.co.th/images/maptrain/east.gif
Un grand merci pour cette réponse complète et les cartes.
Une pièce de plus à verser au désormais bien épais dossier "Comment on sort de là quand on vient d'être jeté de l'avion, à peine réveillé"...
Pat.
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Bonjour,
Nous envisageons de partir en voyage pour 3 semaines en famille l’été prochain avec nos 3 enfants qui auront 8, 8 et 7 ans.
Après plusieurs recherches nous nous orientons vers la Malaisie afin de pouvoir combiner nature/forets et plages paradisiaques. L’idée étant de faire découvrir la culture du pays à nos enfants ainsi que la nature, les animaux .
Nous souhaitons faire un beau voyage mais sans vouloir partir sur des options luxueuses types lodges et ressorts hors de prix. Nous souhaiterions du confort mais avec un minimum d’authenticité. Un bon intermédiaire en résumé.
J’ai commencé à construire un itinéraire et je souhaiterais avoir vos avis avisés, vos conseils aussi afin de pouvoir continuer à construire ce beau voyage avec nos loulous.
Jour 1 :Départ de France
Jour 2 : Kuala Lumpur Installation dans un hôtel près de l’aéroport ou de KL Sentral. 1 seule nuit.
Jour 3 : Vol matinal vers Sandakan (Bornéo). Installation à Sepilok
Jour 4 : Sepilok : * Centre des orangs-outans * Centre des ours malais * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Jour 5 : Départ vers Kinabatangan. Safari en bateau en fin d’après-midi.
Jour 6 : Safari au lever du soleil. Balade dans la jungle. Safari du soir.
Jour 7 : Dernier safari. Retour vers Sandakan.
Vol vers Kuala Lumpur puis vers Kota Bharu (ou nuit de transit selon les horaires).
Jour 8 : Transfert au port. Bateau pour les îles Perhentian.
Jours 9 à 13 : Perhentian Besar 5 journées complètes. * snorkeling * randonnée * observation des tortues * plages sauvages * détente
Jour 14 : Retour sur le continent. Bus ou voiture privée vers Taman Negara.
Jours 15 et 16 : Taman Negara.
Jour 17 :Retour vers Kuala Lumpur.
Jour 18 : Visite des tours Petronas ou de Batu Caves
Jour 19 : Journée libre.
Jour 20 : Vol retour.
Merci d’avance à tous !
Baptiste
Après plusieurs recherches nous nous orientons vers la Malaisie afin de pouvoir combiner nature/forets et plages paradisiaques. L’idée étant de faire découvrir la culture du pays à nos enfants ainsi que la nature, les animaux .
Nous souhaitons faire un beau voyage mais sans vouloir partir sur des options luxueuses types lodges et ressorts hors de prix. Nous souhaiterions du confort mais avec un minimum d’authenticité. Un bon intermédiaire en résumé.
J’ai commencé à construire un itinéraire et je souhaiterais avoir vos avis avisés, vos conseils aussi afin de pouvoir continuer à construire ce beau voyage avec nos loulous.
Jour 1 :Départ de France
Jour 2 : Kuala Lumpur Installation dans un hôtel près de l’aéroport ou de KL Sentral. 1 seule nuit.
Jour 3 : Vol matinal vers Sandakan (Bornéo). Installation à Sepilok
Jour 4 : Sepilok : * Centre des orangs-outans * Centre des ours malais * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Jour 5 : Départ vers Kinabatangan. Safari en bateau en fin d’après-midi.
Jour 6 : Safari au lever du soleil. Balade dans la jungle. Safari du soir.
Jour 7 : Dernier safari. Retour vers Sandakan.
Vol vers Kuala Lumpur puis vers Kota Bharu (ou nuit de transit selon les horaires).
Jour 8 : Transfert au port. Bateau pour les îles Perhentian.
Jours 9 à 13 : Perhentian Besar 5 journées complètes. * snorkeling * randonnée * observation des tortues * plages sauvages * détente
Jour 14 : Retour sur le continent. Bus ou voiture privée vers Taman Negara.
Jours 15 et 16 : Taman Negara.
Jour 17 :Retour vers Kuala Lumpur.
Jour 18 : Visite des tours Petronas ou de Batu Caves
Jour 19 : Journée libre.
Jour 20 : Vol retour.
Merci d’avance à tous !
Baptiste
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before: - Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Thanks, and long live the Nam! !
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before: - Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Thanks, and long live the Nam! !
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees. Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands. Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way). Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan. Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide). Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre. Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island. Day 10 – Head to Semporna. Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai. Day 15 – Bohey Dulang. Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous. I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing. I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture. But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary. If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
What do you all think? Thanks in advance!
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees. Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands. Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way). Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan. Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide). Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre. Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island. Day 10 – Head to Semporna. Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai. Day 15 – Bohey Dulang. Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous. I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing. I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture. But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary. If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
What do you all think? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Thanks for your opinions/answers! Marc Lamarre
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Thanks for your opinions/answers! Marc Lamarre
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi. Is it possible to take the train from Malacca to Ipoh? Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
hi
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
Hi there,
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Hi there,
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)