Je viens de regarder Thalassa sur Planête, c'etait sur la Thailande, ils ont parlé d'un monastere a Bangkok ou à coté, un monastère bouddhiste avec plein d'animaux vivant en liberté, les moines avaient des propos bouddhiste, donc en parfaite harmonie avec moi. J'aimerais aller voir ce monastère.
Avez vous une idée? ou ca peut se trouver, peut etre que quelqu'un aurait vu le même reportage que moi
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Bonsoir,
Pas ce soir, mais j'ai vu un reportage sur des moines qui s'occupaient notamment de tigres ( supposés être des réincarnations):
http://carnets.tourdumonde.be/spip.php?article72
Ce n'est peut-être pas le même monastère...
Alors le temples aux tigres.......Nous on a ete vachement decu.......Tu paie, tu rentre, tu fais la file, on tire 3x3 photos avec ton apareil et on te jette dehors....Les moines, y avais deux qui supervisais 17 personnes et jeans basket(donc pas des moines) et voila......Les 7 Tigres endormis, certainement gaver le matin....Perso, je nái rien trouver de spirituelle la bas.....
Peut etre certains sont mieu tomber et on eu une meilleure experience, mais jý ai ete deux fois et ca a ete pareil.....Enfin jái des photos avec des tigres......
Et ce temples se trouve dans la province de Kanchanaburi.....2h00 de bus de Bangkok, mais cette province est tellement belle quíl faut y aller et puisque on y est, autant avoir les photos avec des tigres😉
En fait tout dépend de ce qu'on s'attend à trouver.
Celui qui cherche le Disneyland avec des lumières partout et des stands de bouffe à tous les coins de rue plus des pancartes descriptives en 5 langues pour chaque espèce animale sera bien évidemment déçu. Pour ça, il est préférable d'aller au zoo de Bangkok ou même à Safari World.
Là, il s'agit d'un temple dont les moines ont recueilli des tigres. Ils ne possèdent aucune infrastructure pour accueillir des visiteurs en grand nombre et n'avaient au départ aucune vocation dans ce sens.
C'est simplement la réflexion "qu'est-ce qu'on va bien pouvoir faire avec ces tigres ?"
qui a donné pour résultat "et si on leur recréait un habitat proche de leur milieu naturel, une espèce de sanctuaire où ils seraient protégés ?".
Ce résultat a eu pour conséquence la question "oui, mais comment le financer ?" dont la réponse a été "en proposant aux visiteurs de venir voir les tigres en liberté".
Voilà. Et si le prix de 300 Baths est identique pour les locaux et les touristes, c'est bel et bien parce que les thaïs considèrent ceci comme un don au temple alors que le touriste moyen pensera que c'est le prix d'entrée d'un parc d'attraction.
En fait tout dépend de ce qu'on s'attend à trouver.
J'ai prévu d'y aller en mai et d'y trouver :
1. des tigres dans leur environnement "naturel"
2. des moines dans leurs occupations quotidiennes
3. une nouvelle expérience et de plus amples connaissances sur le peuple thai (ici, les moines en l'occurrence)
Si effectivement le contenu du post de Dave est correct, cela vaut-il la peine de faire le déplacement. Ce qu'il explique ressemble justement bien plus à une attraction foraine, même s'il n'y a pas de strass et paillettes.
Ok pour les chutes Erawan, cela vaut le détour, le pont de la rivière Kwai, vu que je serai à proximité, pourquoi pas, mais me taper des kilomètres pour trois photos... bof, j'hésite. Qu'en penses-tu ?
1) Des tigres dans un environnement naturel, c'est Safari World à Minburi, au nord-est de Bangkok, qui s'en approche le plus. Y aller de préférence le matin à 10H00 pour le repas des fauves. Tu circules dans une voiture au milieu des animaux en liberté. Bien évidemment l'espace des fauves est séparé de celui des herbivores.
Des tigres non dressés mais habitués à la présence de l'homme et que l'on peut toucher, ça c'est le temple des tigres dont nous parlions déjà. Mais là, ce n'est plus vraiment leur milieu naturel. La majorité de ces tigres ne pourraient même plus survivre à l'état sauvage, car ils ne sont plus obligés de chasser eux-mêmes leur nouritture depuis très longtemps.
2) Des moines dans leurs occupations quotidiennes, ça c'est possible dans n'importe quel temple en Thailande. Après, il y a la question de la langue. Parce que je suppose que tu souhaites aussi dialoguer avec ces moines ? Il faudra donc trouver un temple où vit au moins un moine anglophone.
3) Une nouvelle expérience : alors là il n'y a aucun doute que le temple des tigres est une expérience unique.
Mais l'idéal est tout de même d'y aller en semaine (en week-end il y a toujours du monde) et si possible vers 16H00 et de rester jusqu'à la fin, lorsque le ou les moines ramènent les bestioles dans leur cage. Ils t'inviteront certainement à les accompagner (pas dans la cage, hein 😛) et échangeront quelques mots avec toi.
Peut-être même pourras-tu en tenir un en laisse 😮
Réponse globale : Utilisez le moteur de recherche avec le mot " Tigre" pour plus de détails sur ce temple, il y a déja eu de nombrex post sur ce sujet notament de la part du Thailsacien et de ma pomme. ( Pour info mon avis est diamétralement opposé à celui du Diabotin ! )
Mouarf, c'est comme ceux qui veulent une ile deserte & sauvage ... avec disco parce que sinon c'est trop ch***t ... !!
C'est la quadrature du cercle cette histoire !
Ott, pour voir ... enfin avoir le moindre petit bout de chance (quasi nul) d'apercevoir des tigres dans leur environnement naturel en Thailande il faut s'enfoncer dans la jungle de Khao Yai où on pense qu'il en resterait quelques specimens ... Un douzaine peut être...
Sinon, toujours pour l'environnement naturel, il y a l'Inde ou le tigre est protégé depuis des dizaines d'années et ou malgré les conflits avec les humains il y en a un peu. La bonne formule est le treck a dos d'éléphant, mais là aussi dans meilleur des cas tu verra le tigre quelques minutes, plus probablement quelques secondes avant qu'il ne se cache dans la jungle. Tout ça pour dire qu'un animal sauvage dans son environnement naturel sera la plupart du temps invisible.
Des moines dans leurs préoccupation quotidiennes
Tu peux les voir dans tout les villes et villages de Thailande tôt le matin lorsqu'ils passent recevoir leur nourriture.
Ensuite leurs occupations quotidiennes sont d'entretenir le temple et de méditer. Je ne peux penser que tu veuille "matter" les moines en train de méditer comme justement lorsqu'on va au zoo voir les zanimos. J'ai lu à droite à gauche que les temples ( certains temples ? ) acceptaient que les farangss y " fassent retraite " et y passent un certains temps en vivant comme les moines. Si je voulais vraiment voir les moines " dans leurs activités quotidiennes " sans être un voyeur je pense que c'est ce que je ferais
Une nouvelle expérience et de plus amples connaissances sur le peuple thai
Ca oui, ca le fait, car toucher un tigre adulte et en pleine possession de ses moyens est une expérience unique mais ça le fera uniquement si tu veux bien prendre du temps pour apprécier le moment et justement pas JUSTE pour la photo !
Alors le temples aux tigres.......Nous on a ete vachement decu.......Tu paie, tu rentre, tu fais la file, on tire 3x3 photos avec ton apareil et on te jette dehors....Les moines, y avais deux qui supervisais 17 personnes et jeans basket(donc pas des moines) et voila......Les 7 Tigres endormis, certainement gaver le matin....Perso, je nái rien trouver de spirituelle la bas.....
Peut etre certains sont mieu tomber et on eu une meilleure experience, mais jý ai ete deux fois et ca a ete pareil.....Enfin jái des photos avec des tigres......
Et ce temples se trouve dans la province de Kanchanaburi.....2h00 de bus de Bangkok, mais cette province est tellement belle quíl faut y aller et puisque on y est, autant avoir les photos avec des tigres😉
merci de confirmer mes propos tenus dans un autre posr ! je m'étais fait lyncher quand j'ai eu le malheur de dire que c'était très loin d'être sympa comme visite ! ce que tu dis est exactement ce que j'en pense. il vaut mieux passer plus de temps aux falaises erawan/
Ok merci
c'est vrai qu'a la télé ca paraissait désertique, de toute facon la Thailande est bourré de touristes, tant mieux pour les Thais, tant pis pour nous (lol)
bon ba qui voulaient un endroit spirituel !! c loupé, je voulais enfin trouver un endroit ou les humains cohabitent avc toutes sortes d'animaux bref j'essaierai le stage de 4jrs dans u temple en Corée, trés reposant et trés bouddhiste
thank guys
La vie à la même valeur peut importe la taille de l'être qui la porte !
Bonjour Patrick,
comme tu le sais j'ai lu avec plaisir ton récit de voyage! Tu as de êtres belles photos du Tiger Temple mais je me demandais pourquoi ils ne t'ont pas laisse prendre toi même les photos? C'est interdit de prendre soit meme les photos? Tu as paye pour les photos?
merci!🙂
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Une bonne partie des photos sont de moi, sauf celle ou je suis dessus !!
Au début j'ai essayé, je mettais le retardateur, je lancais l'appareil en l'air et je courrais pour être devant l'objectif ... mais faut être super rapide pour ensuite rattrapper l'appareil sinon il s'écrase au sol et au troisème appareil cassé j'ai décidé de trouver une autre facon de faire 😎😎 😎😎
Plus sérieusement, les jeunes te prennent en photo quand tu est avec le tigre, ce qui te permet d'être sur la photo.
Et ca présente aussi l'avantage que personne ne se balade seul au milieu des tigres car se sont de VRAI tigres adultes et pas drogué du tout !
Nous avons ensuite LONGUEMENT admiré les tigres, assis à l'ombre sur les bancs prévus a cette effet et la j'ai shooté allègrement.
Je n'ai payé que l'entrée du temple, pas pour les photos.
GISMO : tu n'as pas été "lynché" lorsque tu t'es exprimé tu as donné ton point de vue et d'autres ( dont moi ) n'étaient simplement pas du tout d'accord avec toi... Y'a nuance !
Tu as pu prendre les photos toi meme de l'interieur ou derriere les barriere?Car moi pas question que je puisse rentrer en meme temps que Saskia pour la prendre en photos.....😕
C'est un seul visiteur à la fois chez les tigres et ce sont les assistants (les men in blue 😎) qui prennent les photos parce que les bestiaux ont l'habitude de leur présence et qu'ils peuvent se déplacer au milieu d'eux avec discrétion (ce qui n'est pas toujours le cas des touristes) et sans les perturber.
Par contre, rien ne t'empêche de prendre des photos depuis derrière la barrière.
Ce sont des amis que j'y avait emmené et qui en sont revenus ravis.
Le garçon a réalisé son rève : carresser un tigre.
Comme le Thailsacien.
La limite était une corde. Coté banc je pouvais shooter tout ce que je voulais ( y compris femme et fifille de l'autre coté en train de caresser les tigres ) et une fois du coté des tigres le problème ne s'est pas posé puisque les MIBlue shootaient comme des fous ( et avec des résultats plutot bon ) l'idée de dire " Ohé je veux que ce soit MOI qui shoote ma femme et ma fille" ne m'est pas venu !
Mais comme je disais si Mr Pouvait shooter lui même Mme ça impliquerait que les photographes touristes se baladent "comme ça" au milieu des tigres et ça, ça serait vraiment dangereux.
Pour te dire que les MIB éaient cool, voyant 2 tigres en train de chahuter au fond du canyon, dans la marre, je les ai même désigné a un des MIB avec un sourire, en lui tendant l'appareil et en disant " Please ? " et il a été me faire une série impressionante des tgres jouant dans l'eau. Gratos of course ! 🙂
Ben vi c'est ca......
Ils te tiennemt par la main, premier tigre, te tire au deuscieme, puis ta droit a un troisieme, apres toujours en te tenant la main on t'accompagne a la sortie.....Et voila l'affaire est faite et tu repart avec tes photos a coter des tigres.....Aucune explication ou tentative de comunications avec les moines par exemple......
Donc voila, tu la vu d'un autre oeil, mais moi je n'ai vraiment rien de trouver de spirituelle la....L'ecole des singes n'etais pas mal non plus🙂.....
Mais c'est vrai, qu'en etant a Kanchanaburi, ce serais con de ne pas y aller, mais allez la bas juste pour cela, perdre 3 jours sur tes 15 jours de vacances en esperant trouver quelque chose que je pense tu ne trouveras pas, c'est aussi con......Et question spiritualites, j'ai trouver plus au temples du boudha blanc a Prassat chez notre ami Alban que en allant aux temples aux tigres....
Tu sais il ya 200 millions de temples dans toute la Thailande et ca ne me viendrais pas à l'esprit d'aller justement dans celui la ( qui attire ouvertement les touristes ) pour parler spiritualité... Quelle idée bizarre d'ailleurs ... Personne n'as jamais dit que c'était une expérience spirituelle ... Les moines se sont retrouvés un beau jour avec des bébés tigres au monastère et au lieu de les reflier à un zoo ce qui signifiait cage 24/24 A VIE ou de tenter de les remettre dans la nature = mort assurée puisque pas de parents pour faire leur apprentissages ils ont géré l'affaire au mieux.
L'expérience c'est de toucher, caresser des tigres adulte et " en état " ( avec dents et griffes ) rien d'autres.
Et non justement faut pas faire "clic clac kodak et on se casse" même si c'est bien ce que font la plupart des touristes. De toutes façons ils n'en ont rien à taper du reste, ils veulent juste leur photo pour faire voir à leurs potes. De plus quand tu vois les tenues carrément indécentes de 75% des farangs qui croient aller à la plage alors qu'il sont dans un monastère ça ne donne pas envie de leur donner autre chose que " Fait tes 3 photos et pis casse toi "
Mais si tu reste plus longtemps tu peut voir les MIB jouer avec les tigres comme avec de gros chats, tu peux voir les tigres bouger en liberte ce qui peut éviter de dire des grosses conneries du genre " ils sont drogués" et il peut même se passer des trucs ... comme remonter de la carrière avec le tigre en laisse et le moine qui marche à coté de toi en te disant " Do like you do with a puppy " 🙂
😉 ben moi je suis bien d'accord avec ce que dit daredevil: ça s'est exactement passé comme ça quand j'y suis allée l'an dernier et je n'étais pas mal habillée ou quoi que ce soit de ce genre là!!
payer l'entrée, payer la photo... si bien que j'ai meme pas été faire la photo car pour etre promener d'un tigre à l'autre et un petit clic et on repart pour moi j'y vois pas un grand interet.
c'est clair qu'il ya d'autres choses à voir au kanchanaburi: erawan!!! par exemple
Pour mon info perso et sans agressivité aucune : expliquez moi ce que vous espériez trouver là - bas ( vous = ceux qui ont été déçu )
Coté fringues tu remarquera que j'ai dit 75% ça permet à chacun de se situer dans les 25 autres % .. D'ailleurs il est quasi evident que 100% des VFiens font partie de 25% qui savent " se tenir " !! 😎
j'avais bien compris pour les vetements c'était pour le clin d'oeiul
je ne m'attendais pas à qq chose d'exceptionnel mais qq chose de plus authentique et quand je dis authentique je ne l'entends pas au sens fort spécialement.
simplement faire payer l'entrée et refaire payer la photo tout ça pour une photo franchement je trouve ca un peu too much d'autant plus que dans ce temple tiger il n'y a pas grand chose à voir.
et pour moi me voir en photo avec un tigre ou montrer la photo à qq d'autre ça m'est complètement égal .
Moi j'ai eu l'impression qu'il y avait rien à voir et juste nous faire payer une photo et hop voila
Le tigre est un grand fauve ...🤪...et puis tant qu, il y aura des tigres on ira les voir et faire un max de fotos ..et puis les fotos sont comme les arbres, , Y, en a pas une les memes ....😮
Et puis en thailande le milieu naturel du touriste n, est pas chez les tigres ...bien evidemment, , Alors la question est que recherche t-on chez le tigre ...et que peut-on faire avec ??? voila ..Chacun son milieu naturel ..d, ailleurs je me demande parfois quel est le milieu naturel de l, homme ... !(la femme on le sait )😏
Et puis faut avouer que cet animal est magnifique ...😉.
sur l, arbre qui donne des pommes il n, y a pas de citrons
Les moines sont de vrais moines.
Le temple est un vrai temple " en activité "
Les tigres sont aussi vrais
Tu savais bien que les tigres ne vivent " authentiquement" dans les monastères, donc que le fait de les toucher serait de toutes façons artificiel ...
J'essaye mais vraiment je n'arrive pas à comprendre ...
De notre point de vue la somme payé a de fortes chances d'être utilisé pour améliorer l'habitat des tigres, la somme payé est bien moins importante que ce qu'on demande en France pour entrer dans un zoo " à la con " et on a touché/caressé des tigres ce qui n'est pas le genre de truc fasiable à tous les coins de rues. Ce que probablement nous ne referont jamais.
Alors les photos sont un plus plus mais ce qu'on sait c'est qu'on l'a fait et pas dans le sens "YEEeeeeeesss we did it " mais dans le sens " on l'a vécu et c'était fort " ...
PS : Tu ne peux pas comparer des cascades et le fait de caresser des tigres ! Et je le sais je suis monté à la 7ème d'Erawan !
Le Tigre explique très bien la démarche des moines;
Une fois de plus le mot "authentique" (du grec "authentikos", qui agit de sa propre autorité) n'est pas adapté à la situation!
Car tout est authentique dans ce temple;
les murs sont bien en parpaing, le parking est bien en gravillons et terre ;
la route d'accès est authentiquement caillouteuse.
Les tigres? N'en parlons même pas! Ils sont authentiquement vrais, pas des peluches.........
Les poules, sangliers, vaches, cochons sont eux aussi authentiques; les paons, superbes; les "MIB" aussi, de vrais véritables thai; même les moines, c'est dire!
Je ne vous comprends pas...
Vous faites 50 bornes en direction de Thong Pha Phum, c'est quand même pas la banlieue proche de Kan'buri!
Si, je vois, 300 baht d'entrée c'est ça qui vous chagrine...
Ben oui, mais c'est bien sûr! Tous les Wat sont gratos en Thailande, pourquoi celui-ci ne le serait pas?
Les tigres, c'est connu se nourrissent de l'"air du temps"....
ça commence à me courrir sur le citron ce galvaudage (action de galvauder) du mot "authentique" et toc.
* galvauder: (ancien français : galer, s'amuser; et ravauder ), Compromettre par un mauvais usage en prodigant mal à propos.
Le sage supporte aequo animo les coups de l'adversite
enfin bref j'ai pas été emballée
apres quand je dis "authentique" c'est comme jai dit pas au sens fort je n mattendait pas à etre à cote d'un tigre en pleine nature!!!!! mais bon jai trouve ca expeditif et sans plus
voila apres chacun son truc!!!! il y a tellement de choses en thailande qui valent davantage le détour!!!😉 voila c'est tout
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Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips:
Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred.
PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront).
Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
