Que faire à partir de Pattaya?
by Asyade
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bjr je fini un circuit sur pattaya
que faire en 5 jours 4 nuits supplementaires dans les environ
est ce que ca vaut le coup d aller a pukhet et comment a partir de pattaya faut il repasser par bkk de preference par voie terrestre bus ou train
sinon que me proposez vous
merci pour toutes vos info precieuse afin de preparer notre voyage 🙂
Reponse pour 4 jours de + : pas de Phuket - Retour a Bangok et promene toi dans les marches qui sont tous differents. Prend un plan gratuit en francais a l'office du tourisme ils sont tous indiques et fais un ou deux temples de plus et du shopping. Va au grand centre commercial 'High Tech" Siam Paragon par exemple.
Si tu vas dans un autre endroit tu perdra au mieux une demi journee allee et une demi journee retour. Si tu est deja a Bangkok pour prendre ton avion tu gagne une demi journee a flaner.
Si tu vas dans un autre endroit tu perdra au mieux une demi journee allee et une demi journee retour. Si tu est deja a Bangkok pour prendre ton avion tu gagne une demi journee a flaner.
mai pen rai krap
j'ecrit sur clavier américain désolé pour les accents...
bjr je fini un circuit sur pattaya
que faire en 5 jours 4 nuits supplementaires dans les environ
est ce que ca vaut le coup d aller a pukhet et comment a partir de pattaya faut il repasser par bkk de preference par voie terrestre bus ou train
sinon que me proposez vous
merci pour toutes vos info precieuse afin de preparer notre voyage 🙂
sawasdee... perso 4nuits sur phuket au depart de pattaya ça me parait relativement court...moi si j'avais pas le choix et que je devais terminer mon sejour à pattaya, je m'evaderai vers Koh Larn!
sawasdee... perso 4nuits sur phuket au depart de pattaya ça me parait relativement court...moi si j'avais pas le choix et que je devais terminer mon sejour à pattaya, je m'evaderai vers Koh Larn!
salut
quoiqu on en dise à pattaya il y a qq trucs à faire comme dit ci dessus tu peux aller à koh latn c est l ile en face de pattaya le bateau coute 20 baths par trajet environ 45 min il faut le prendre au bout de le jetée du port qui se trouve au fond de walking street selon ton budget tu peux prendre le speed boat ( bof ) là c est pres des 2000 b l aller retour pr le bateau une fois arrivé sur l ile prends la betaillere pr 30b par pers il vous emmenera sur samae beach la plus belle et la plus a l abri du vent pr moi. voilà déjà une belle journée de fait ensuite dans le coin il y a la ferme aux éléphants et aux crocodiles tu peux aussi aller vers rayong et ban phé pour les plages voir pousser sur koh samet mais je pense que pr 4 jrs c est court reste plutot sur pattaya shopping à faire sur le soi buakaho le mardi et le vendredi beaucoup moins cher que le mike shopping et autres building rempli de shops je precise surtout ne te baigne pas sur la beach road ou a jomtien la mer est polluée par les rejets des egouts donc sur l ile t es tranquille ca te reviens a 100 b par pers aller retour une journee pas cher et tu peux manger sur place pr pas cher crevettes d eau douce ( bleues ) calamars etc etc
bonnes vacances
jimmy
quoiqu on en dise à pattaya il y a qq trucs à faire comme dit ci dessus tu peux aller à koh latn c est l ile en face de pattaya le bateau coute 20 baths par trajet environ 45 min il faut le prendre au bout de le jetée du port qui se trouve au fond de walking street selon ton budget tu peux prendre le speed boat ( bof ) là c est pres des 2000 b l aller retour pr le bateau une fois arrivé sur l ile prends la betaillere pr 30b par pers il vous emmenera sur samae beach la plus belle et la plus a l abri du vent pr moi. voilà déjà une belle journée de fait ensuite dans le coin il y a la ferme aux éléphants et aux crocodiles tu peux aussi aller vers rayong et ban phé pour les plages voir pousser sur koh samet mais je pense que pr 4 jrs c est court reste plutot sur pattaya shopping à faire sur le soi buakaho le mardi et le vendredi beaucoup moins cher que le mike shopping et autres building rempli de shops je precise surtout ne te baigne pas sur la beach road ou a jomtien la mer est polluée par les rejets des egouts donc sur l ile t es tranquille ca te reviens a 100 b par pers aller retour une journee pas cher et tu peux manger sur place pr pas cher crevettes d eau douce ( bleues ) calamars etc etc
bonnes vacances
jimmy
la vie est courte profitons de chaque instant qui passe.......
il faut partir jusqu'à trat en bus et ensuite prendre le bateau ca vous fait au moins une demi journée de perdu à l aller comme au retour maintenant je pense qu il vaut mieux avoir un premier regard sur votre séjour pres de pattaya et lors de votre prochaine visite vs aurez l occasion de découvrir koh chang koh samet koh phi phi kho samui etc etc
impossible de tout voir ! lors de mon premier voyage j'ai passé bcp de temps ds les transports dc je ne me suis pas vraiment reposé je sais qu on a envie de tout voir mais vous verrez bien si ca vs plait ( je n en doute pas ! ) vs reviendrez une autre fois plus longtemps et vs pourrez faire le reste
pitié ne prenez que le vol la prochaine fois c est si facile ici de composer sur place votre séjour au gré de vos envies
je vs souhaite de bonnes vacances et me tiens a votre disposition pr d autres infos sur pattaya ou autres
jimmy
jimmy
la vie est courte profitons de chaque instant qui passe.......
Si tu parles anglais et aimes les gens, pourquoi ne pas aller dans les quartiers plus retirés et faire connaissance ? Je ne connais pas Pattaya, mais il doit y avoir une vie en dehors du tourisme, comme partout. Cela te permettra de nous transmettre une autre vision des choses à ton retour. La Thailande, ce ne sont pas seulement des paysages, ce sont aussi des habitants...
J'avais envie de répondre la même chose, mais j'ai pas osé... 😛
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Thibaut
Flâner...à Bangkok;
Va falloir oublier ce mot et sa signification occidentale.
Parfois des trottoirs pas bien larges, encombrés de toutes sortes de personnes ou de choses : marchands ambulants, poteaux électriques..,
Bien qu'il y ait beaucoup de piétons, on marche peu à Bangkok, il y fait trop chaud, trop de poussière, de pollution..
Et puis seuls les "pauvres" marchent!(ou les touristes!);
Flâner? Peut-être dans Lumpini Parc? en recherchant les bancs à l'ombre...ce qui ne sera pas une mince affaire car ils sont très souvent squattés par des ouvriers qui dorment en attendant de reprendre le boulot aux heures les moins chaudes...
Flâner? Peut-être dans Lumpini Parc? en recherchant les bancs à l'ombre...ce qui ne sera pas une mince affaire car ils sont très souvent squattés par des ouvriers qui dorment en attendant de reprendre le boulot aux heures les moins chaudes...
Le sage supporte aequo animo les coups de l'adversite
...... peut être aussi flâner à Ancient city, bien bel endroit ou passer la journée malgré ses détracteurs, afin d'y découvrir toutes les splendeurs de l'ancien royaume de Siam au vert et au son des multiples chants d'oiseaux multicolores ..... flâner au Zoo de Bangkok parmi les immenses volières abritant des Calaos et de beaux plans d'eau ou se reposer ...... flâner dans les jardins et sur les parquets bien cirés de la pension Vinmansek au son de quelque musique accompagnant un corps de ballet au milieu de cet apparat de teck ...... flâner au fil de l'eau sur les khlongs de Thonburi en pirogue pour y contempler toute la vie simple des habitants de ce vieux quartier de Bangkok ..... flâner en bateau bus pour atteindre la maison de Jim Thompson afin d'y prendre un déjeuner au calme de son jardin et entre les maisons en teck si joliment agencées ..... juste aprés avoir flâner sur la colline abritant le Wat Saket et offrant de beaux points de vue sur la ville ....... flâner sur les quais abritants ces marchés aux fleurs multicolores et s'abandonner corps et âmes dans l'entremélas de petites ruelles ou retrouver l'âme de Bangkok au gré des rencontres humaines hors des turpitudes occidentalisées .......
....... et bien d'autres flâneries à découvrir par soi même, il y a encore de quoi se faire plaisir à Bangkok dés lors que l'on écoute ses propres envies l'ami ......
Bonne soirée à toi .....
....... et bien d'autres flâneries à découvrir par soi même, il y a encore de quoi se faire plaisir à Bangkok dés lors que l'on écoute ses propres envies l'ami ......
Bonne soirée à toi .....
Flâner...à Bangkok;
oui mais quelle thermes utiliser? 🤪
flâner, depuis Montand, toujours a la mode, même en Thailande flâner n'est pas l'apanage des riches, si tu a le bon regard tu y verra des Thais flâner dans les temples, le long des rivieres et des nam-tok, sur les marchés le dimanche avec gaîté, dans les jardins d'enfants, flâner est eternel et international de même que tu entendra chanter des oiseaux a BKK, Marseille ou en Amerique du Sud, mais lorsque on est en voyage le chant est plus beau, car on est plus réceptif, donc nous aussi Farangs flânont
flâner, depuis Montand, toujours a la mode, même en Thailande flâner n'est pas l'apanage des riches, si tu a le bon regard tu y verra des Thais flâner dans les temples, le long des rivieres et des nam-tok, sur les marchés le dimanche avec gaîté, dans les jardins d'enfants, flâner est eternel et international de même que tu entendra chanter des oiseaux a BKK, Marseille ou en Amerique du Sud, mais lorsque on est en voyage le chant est plus beau, car on est plus réceptif, donc nous aussi Farangs flânont
Merci Alan....
Tu sais, je fais partie de ces gens qui n'aiment pas les grandes villes aussi je ne reste que quelques heures à Bangkok, le temps de rejoindre une gare ferroviaire ou routière.....
mais là, tu nous donnes un tas d'indications extrémement précieuses pour flâner dans cette mégapole;
Sawatdee Khrap, again 😉
mais là, tu nous donnes un tas d'indications extrémement précieuses pour flâner dans cette mégapole;
Sawatdee Khrap, again 😉
Le sage supporte aequo animo les coups de l'adversite
oui mais quelle thermes utiliser? 🤪
he oui ! quels termes utiliser ? quand j'arrive dans ma maison au bord du Menam, je flane, quand je vais payer mon loyer de 3000 bhts par mois je flane, aussi quand je vais regler ma tv cablé, je flane, meme quand je m' em.. derriere mon ordi je flane, d'ailleurs vaut mieux que je flane, trop chaud et pas l' a/c quand je vais voir d'autres Farangs nous flanons, j'ai meme une fois flané dans la maison de Jim Tompson, flanerie agréable, donc préservons le mot flaner, a tous les temps, mille façons de flaner flaneries hors sujet 🙂
he oui ! quels termes utiliser ? quand j'arrive dans ma maison au bord du Menam, je flane, quand je vais payer mon loyer de 3000 bhts par mois je flane, aussi quand je vais regler ma tv cablé, je flane, meme quand je m' em.. derriere mon ordi je flane, d'ailleurs vaut mieux que je flane, trop chaud et pas l' a/c quand je vais voir d'autres Farangs nous flanons, j'ai meme une fois flané dans la maison de Jim Tompson, flanerie agréable, donc préservons le mot flaner, a tous les temps, mille façons de flaner flaneries hors sujet 🙂
Merci à vous deux pour ces bonnes idées, beaucoup nous parlent de Bangkok comme d'une mégalopole polluée, bruyante, puante et invivable, ce qui ne donne pas du tout l'envie d'y rester. Cela fait du bien de savoir qu'il existe encore des tas de coins agréables hors du temps, des endroits où l'on peut rencontrer les gens, tout simplement. Le tout est une question de regard, d'ouverture d'esprit et de sentiment du moment.
Une fois de plus, force m'est de constater que sur ce forum, on nous donne souvent une idée fausse de nombreux endroits, je commençais à me dire que Bangkok, c'était KSR, Patpong et MBK partout. Que diriez-vous d'un post qui donne une image positive de Bangkok aux voyageurs qui s'intéressent aux habitants et aux endroits beaux, agréables, insolites ?
Convainquez-moi d'y rester quelques jours de plus...
Convainquez-moi d'y rester quelques jours de plus...
Bangkok ?! c, est magique 😮😉....
sur l, arbre qui donne des pommes il n, y a pas de citrons
Que diriez-vous d'un post qui donne une image positive de Bangkok aux voyageurs qui s'intéressent aux habitants et aux endroits beaux, agréables, insolites ?
Voici une photo insolite à Bangkok ça ne manque en ce domaine, voilà un bâtiment qui penche ils l'ont laisser ainsi, pas grave puisqu'il tient et en plus c'est un hôtel j'ai oublier le nom .

Voici une photo insolite à Bangkok ça ne manque en ce domaine, voilà un bâtiment qui penche ils l'ont laisser ainsi, pas grave puisqu'il tient et en plus c'est un hôtel j'ai oublier le nom .

@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Hello !😎
Ok, magique... mais encore... ??? Tu sais maintenant que je fais partie de ces gens qui veulent du concret, du profond et du justifié ... hihihi... un petit effort, même s'il fait chaud et que tu as peut-être "mal aux cheveux" 😉
Ok, magique... mais encore... ??? Tu sais maintenant que je fais partie de ces gens qui veulent du concret, du profond et du justifié ... hihihi... un petit effort, même s'il fait chaud et que tu as peut-être "mal aux cheveux" 😉
Tant qu'il ne nous tombe pas sur la tête... Pour le nom, je propose "Albergo Pisa" avec un resto italien au rez-de-chaussée, avis aux investisseurs...😉😉😉
PS : humour facile, mais je m'emm... au bureau😕
PS : humour facile, mais je m'emm... au bureau😕
PS : humour facile, mais je m'emm... au bureau😕
bonjour Patricia, je vais le dire a ton patron, pour aller à cet hôtel dont on ne se rappelle plus le nom, prendre cette voie rapide a l’aéroport, c’est pas du R. Devos, mais presque, aller promis, les prochaines, sanouk

bonjour Patricia, je vais le dire a ton patron, pour aller à cet hôtel dont on ne se rappelle plus le nom, prendre cette voie rapide a l’aéroport, c’est pas du R. Devos, mais presque, aller promis, les prochaines, sanouk

Ca pourrait être un histoire belge... nous avons une route du même genre à la frontière linguistique... 5 km de détour par une départementale pour éviter d'entrer en territoire "ennemi"... mdr...
salut vous tous et bien pour reprendre ma question que faire autour de pattaya je voulais vous dire que nous avons en fait decide de boycotter pattaya
fuir comme certains l ont dit et nous allons nous reposer a kho samui apres un circuit de deux semaines dans le nord de la thailande en fait on a boycotter les nuits incluses dans le circuit sur pattaya pour les consacrer a cette ile apparement paradisiaque qu on fera en individuel ca nous changera de la formule circuit organisé la dernière nuit on la passera a bkk ou on pourra flaner et s inspirer de l atmosphère de cette ville trepidante
alors je prends bonne note bien sur de toutes vos info et vous remercie
d avoir bien voulu me renseigner si vite
bises a tous asyade 😎
Et oui, j'ai employe le mot 'flaner' qui a bien plus a prori 😉 Pour flaner a Bangkok je te conseille plutot les bords de la Chao Phraya 😉😉 Essaie et monte jusqu'au marche de Thewet. (evite le centre ville et Sumkunvit). Je te conseille le quartier a hauteur du zoo et de Vinmanmeck pres du fleuve (un quartier chretien avec une eglise - chinois vietnamiens thailandais - j'adore - 10 ecoles une universite). De la vie. Des maisons en bois sur l'eau. (c'est un quartier pauvreet riche). Quasi pas de farang sauf les profs de la grande ecole a cote.
Flaner a Bangkok au hasard et merveilleux car tu peux decouvrir des trucs auxquels tu n'aurais jamais pense. Si tu vois des gens sortir d'une ruelle de 1 m de large vas-y 😉😉 Regarde lentement et doucement : c'est ca flaner pour moi. Tout regarder lentement et prendre le temps. 😉😉 On peut flaner dans le zoo de Dusit ou dans le parc de Lumpini mais ce n'est pas pareil (c'est du flanage sans decoverte mais reposant).
Et si tu flanes dans les rues tu vas revenir a Bangkok sans aucun doute car tu vas decouvrir des endroits qui vont te ravir.😉😉
Flaner a Bangkok au hasard et merveilleux car tu peux decouvrir des trucs auxquels tu n'aurais jamais pense. Si tu vois des gens sortir d'une ruelle de 1 m de large vas-y 😉😉 Regarde lentement et doucement : c'est ca flaner pour moi. Tout regarder lentement et prendre le temps. 😉😉 On peut flaner dans le zoo de Dusit ou dans le parc de Lumpini mais ce n'est pas pareil (c'est du flanage sans decoverte mais reposant).
Et si tu flanes dans les rues tu vas revenir a Bangkok sans aucun doute car tu vas decouvrir des endroits qui vont te ravir.😉😉
mai pen rai krap
j'ecrit sur clavier américain désolé pour les accents...
Si tu n'es pas adepte de tourisme sexuel, tu ne mets pas les pieds à Pattaya !! si tu y vas, tu cautionnes, tu fais marcher le commerce ( même en achetant ton riz au marché)
A toi de voir
Y a rien d'autre à faire, c'est moche, pollué, l'île des coraux n'en a que le nom. Aller au NORD !!!!!!
joelle
Si tu n'es pas adepte de tourisme sexuel, tu ne mets pas les pieds à Pattaya !! si tu y vas, tu cautionnes, tu fais marcher le commerce ( même en achetant ton riz au marché)
Ce n'est pas bientôt fini de dire des âneries ??? Si on suit ton raisonnement, toutes les familles thaies qui vont passer leur week-end ou leurs vacances à Pattaya cautionnent le tourisme sexuel... n'importe quoi !!!
Ce n'est pas bientôt fini de dire des âneries ??? Si on suit ton raisonnement, toutes les familles thaies qui vont passer leur week-end ou leurs vacances à Pattaya cautionnent le tourisme sexuel... n'importe quoi !!!
Là, tu es vraiment grave, comme à l'image de beaucoup de français qui ne sortent jamais et pensent que la Thaïlande est un pays de pédophiles et de putes.
comme à l'image de beaucoup de français qui ne sortent jamais et pensent que la Thaïlande est un pays de pédophiles et de p....
a bon ?!, il y a des Français avec de si mauvaises pensées ? 😇😛😄
a bon ?!, il y a des Français avec de si mauvaises pensées ? 😇😛😄
je voyage plus que la moyenne
je ne parle pas des familles thai mais des tours opérators, et des européens, vieux de Préférence, qui inondent Pattaya avec des gamines ou des gamins thaï (et séropositifs hélas pour eux !) . Chacun ses goûts. En tout cas le gouvernement thaîalndais n'est pas assez fort opur lutter contre la demande. Donc les seules ressources des gens respectueux des thaî c'est de boycotter jusqu'à ce que cette partie de la Thaïalnde se régénère un peu. c'est ça aussi respecter les thai. mais l'autre argument c'est que Pattaya c'est très moche, très sale, une mer déguelasse, 14 kilomètres de parasols sur 5 mètres de profondeur, quand il y a une zone publique c'est une décharge ( j'ai des photos!) et les bons touristes vont s'y faire masser les pieds avec bonheur. non, c'est pas mon idée du voyage. Mais chacun ses goûts. Mon idée c'est d'aider aussi les autres à ne pas être aussi déçue que je l'ai été en venant avec mon masque et mon tuba pour voir les poissons et les coraux!
joelle
c'est mieux, d'accord avec toi pour la description,
juste 2 questions :
<< vieux de Préférence >> a partir de quel âge on est vieux ?
peut tu donner un âge precis a une Asiatique ?
j'ai parfois l'impression que je parle chinois
Vieux, c'est plus que mon âge ! ( j'ai 53 ans ) et j'ai vu en thailande de vieux allemands, russes, etc... de 70 ans avec des gamines adorables de 15!
Quant aux asiatiques, oui, quand tu as passé un certain temps en asie tu distingues un thaî du nord d'un thai du sud, un coréen, un chinios ou un japonais. et je maintiens que les gamins et gamines qui se prostituent ( il vaudrait mieux dire qu'on prostitue) ont 15 à 18 ans à tout casser
Quant aux asiatiques, oui, quand tu as passé un certain temps en asie tu distingues un thaî du nord d'un thai du sud, un coréen, un chinios ou un japonais. et je maintiens que les gamins et gamines qui se prostituent ( il vaudrait mieux dire qu'on prostitue) ont 15 à 18 ans à tout casser
joelle
loin de moi toute agressivité, je veux simplement attirer ton attention de se garder des clichés de nos yeux occidentaux,
quand a determiner l'âge,
depuis plusieurs années de vie en Thailande, il m'arrive encore de me planter,
cordialement
robert
robert
🙂Tu n'as pas l'air de savoir que la pédophilie est fermement condamnée..En outre, un farang sera livré aux autorités de son pays...Alors, cesse de raconter n'importe quoi sur le forum en affirmant que les jeunes gens et jeunes filles qui se prostituent en Thaïlande sont mineurs"en-dessous de 18 ans".C'est de la désinformation.
C'est avec des propos imbéciles pareils que des occidentaux ne voyageant pas, pensent que la Thaïlande est un pays de pervers😠
Tout ce que vous dites est nul et sans interet !😕
sur l, arbre qui donne des pommes il n, y a pas de citrons
salut les potes,
je suis de retour a bastia, et je vois qu'il y a toujours sur le site des farfelus...................
beau voyage de retour, fatiguant !!
vous écrit demain!
robert, je t'ai téléphoné plusieurs fois, mais manifestement tu n'avais pas du rentrer de périple !
pas grave je t'appelerai un des ces jours
amitié
a demain sur mp
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Hé hé salut fortini 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
salut a toi, mon singe préféré !!!!!!!!!!!
je raconterai mon voyage sur un post pour ceux que cela peut intéresser ; comme d'hab !
sinon heureux de 15 jours en famille pour la première fois et mon épouse a adoré bkk ! je vois que rien sur le forum ne change, il ya toujours des mots qui déclanchent des "ires et des bétises" amitié a toi
je raconterai mon voyage sur un post pour ceux que cela peut intéresser ; comme d'hab !
sinon heureux de 15 jours en famille pour la première fois et mon épouse a adoré bkk ! je vois que rien sur le forum ne change, il ya toujours des mots qui déclanchent des "ires et des bétises" amitié a toi
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Que faire à partir de Pattaya? << fuir >>>
Hi Hi Hi j allais l' écrire mais tu as toujours une longueur d ' avance !
Qwaqy
Hi Hi Hi j allais l' écrire mais tu as toujours une longueur d ' avance !
Qwaqy
on peut tres bien ne pas aimer pattaya mais c'est pas une raison pour dire des choses fausses.
j y suis alle plusieurs fois(ce qui m'empeche pas aussi de me rendre dans l'isan, la provence de loei....ect)et des gamines et des gamins j'en ai jamais vu pourtant je sors le soir y compris dans les bar beer et goggo bars et je n'ai vu que des filles majeures, pas de pedophilie.
2-certe la prostitution ne manque pas c'est clair mais sous peu que l on s'eloigne de beach road et second road on se retrouve dans une ville thailandaise, j'ai fait egalement des soires ou j'etais le seul farang chose toatalement impossible a ko phi phi ou ko tao.
quand aux touristes de pattaya j'y est vu des familles, des couples, des filles occidentales...pas que de gros porc degeux(il y en a aussi certe).
je precise au fait que j'aime bien pattaya 1 semaine au plus mais que ce n'est pas l'endroit que je prefere en thailande loin de la, mais j'en ai marre de cet anti-pattayatisme primaire recurent de la part de certain.
mais j'en ai marre de cet anti-pattayatisme primaire recurent de la part de certain.
tout à fait d'accord, je ne comprends pas ceux qui ne connaissent pas et n'y sont jamais allés, comment peuvent-ils dire que c'est moche, que c'est ceci et cela ? Je préfère cent fois l'avis d'un de mes contacts qui dit "Perso, je déteste cette ville et je n'y vais qu'en cas de nécessité" là, au moins, il donne son opinion sans discréditer. Je dis de la même façon : "Perso, je déteste Bruxelles et n'y vais qu'en cas d'absolue nécessité", cela ne vous empêche pas d'aller la visiter à l'occasion pour vous faire une opinion... Alors que si je disais : "Bruxelles, c'est moche, c'est dégueu, c'est pollué, c'est plein de p... de l'Est, de non-belges sales et dangereux, ça pue, etc..." je ne refléterais que quelques quartiers particuliers et ommettrais les monuments, les quartiers populaires incontournables, la Grand'Place, la gastronomie, etc, etc, etc...
J'avais lu tellement de choses genre "horrible, degueu, etc..." que je disais aussi ne vouloir ni connaitre ni visiter. Et puis j'ai lu d'autres témoignages parlant des familles thaies qui y descendent pour les vacances ou le week-end et, rebelle et incrédule, j'ai décidé d'aller y passer qq jours lors de mon prochain voyage. Je compte aller voir et les gogo bars et les coins familiaux : je me ferai un plaisir et un devoir de donner une première "impression" que j'essaierai de rendre la plus impartiale possible.
tout à fait d'accord, je ne comprends pas ceux qui ne connaissent pas et n'y sont jamais allés, comment peuvent-ils dire que c'est moche, que c'est ceci et cela ? Je préfère cent fois l'avis d'un de mes contacts qui dit "Perso, je déteste cette ville et je n'y vais qu'en cas de nécessité" là, au moins, il donne son opinion sans discréditer. Je dis de la même façon : "Perso, je déteste Bruxelles et n'y vais qu'en cas d'absolue nécessité", cela ne vous empêche pas d'aller la visiter à l'occasion pour vous faire une opinion... Alors que si je disais : "Bruxelles, c'est moche, c'est dégueu, c'est pollué, c'est plein de p... de l'Est, de non-belges sales et dangereux, ça pue, etc..." je ne refléterais que quelques quartiers particuliers et ommettrais les monuments, les quartiers populaires incontournables, la Grand'Place, la gastronomie, etc, etc, etc...
J'avais lu tellement de choses genre "horrible, degueu, etc..." que je disais aussi ne vouloir ni connaitre ni visiter. Et puis j'ai lu d'autres témoignages parlant des familles thaies qui y descendent pour les vacances ou le week-end et, rebelle et incrédule, j'ai décidé d'aller y passer qq jours lors de mon prochain voyage. Je compte aller voir et les gogo bars et les coins familiaux : je me ferai un plaisir et un devoir de donner une première "impression" que j'essaierai de rendre la plus impartiale possible.
Je préfère cent fois l'avis d'un de mes contacts qui dit "Perso, je déteste cette ville et je n'y vais qu'en cas de nécessité" là, au moins, il donne son opinion sans discréditer.
Laquelle ? 🙂
Laquelle ? 🙂
Laquelle ? 🙂
Laquelle ? opinion ? il n'aime pas et m'a donné ses raisons tout en appuyant le fait que c'était un avis personnel et non pas la vérité vraie; je respecte son choix. Laquelle ? contact ? crédible et sensé tu peux me faire confiance à ce sujet
Laquelle ? opinion ? il n'aime pas et m'a donné ses raisons tout en appuyant le fait que c'était un avis personnel et non pas la vérité vraie; je respecte son choix. Laquelle ? contact ? crédible et sensé tu peux me faire confiance à ce sujet
Prendre le premier bus et partir trés vite de se coin de thailande que je ne connais et que j'ai pas envie de connaitre .
je trouve marrant ce que tu as ecris, car tu as quand meme regardé le post "que faire à partir de Pattaya"...par curiosité ? LOL 😉 Comme tu connais Hua hin...qu en penses tu ? c est du meme tonneau 😉
je trouve marrant ce que tu as ecris, car tu as quand meme regardé le post "que faire à partir de Pattaya"...par curiosité ? LOL 😉 Comme tu connais Hua hin...qu en penses tu ? c est du meme tonneau 😉
Moi, par contre je n'aime plus la Thaïlande..et j'y retourne prochainement🤪🤪
Hua hin... c est du meme tonneau 😉
Hua Hin, qui est le deauville de Bangkok va peut etre finir par etre un Pattaya 2 vu les tournures que ca prend ? 😛
Hua Hin, qui est le deauville de Bangkok va peut etre finir par etre un Pattaya 2 vu les tournures que ca prend ? 😛
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Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
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Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
Hello,
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
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