Restaurant à éviter absolument à Bangkok!
by Valent6
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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sawatdee ka!!
tiens c'est marrant j'viens de tomber sur le post:Arnaque aux prix dans des restaurants de poissons à Bangkok....ça doit etre le même....
Voilà, après 3 semaines à Bkk, ou tout se passe très bien(a part ce pc de m.....pour poster bonjour)merci encore et encore à tous les veterans de vf pour leurs mines d'infos très précieuses( j'ai jamais posté pour vous demander des renseignements, en bon disciple, j'utilise le moteur de recherche😛)mais aujourd'hui j'ai a rapporter, pour les ignorants qui débarquent com moi, une belle arnaque a la mode thai(il m'en fallait bien une, notez au bout de 3 semaines quand même😊)
Donc, après avoir subi les petites arnaques ou "forcing à l'achat" des marchands ambulants, tuck-tuck, taxi and co..., nous pensions en avoir fait le tour, et trouvions finalement tout cela amusant et pas si terrible(ben oui c'est le jeu, normal!)
M'enfin celle-là, ben elle me reste encore en travers du gosier🏴☠️
Je m'explique:
un soir après une promenade dans chanatown, alors que nous cherchions un tit resto sympa, on rencontre un thai (com il nous arrive tres souvent) ma foi sympathique qui se met à jouer avec le p'tit et nous explique qu'il est prof d'histoire et parle un peu francais et sur ce nous propose "un bon resto" le "somboondee seafood market"c'est loin du quartier mais bon on lui fait confiance, et même si on aime pas les attrappes- touristes, pourquoi pas essayer un "market" ca peut être rigolo....
et nous voilà parti en tuck-tuck, suivis de près et durant tout le trajet par un autre transportant un couple de nanas....et comme par harsard on arrive au même resto, (elles paumées com nous)ou l'acceuil est assez militaire et rigide😠y'a l'air d'y avoir du monde:c'est le rush, fô faire vite.On nous explique en deux mots le fonctionnement(petits paniers, on fait ses courses(crabes, crevettes, langoustes, poissons, etc...)légumes et après on laisse faire le cuisto) arffffff c'estg rigolo ma foi....mais le problm c'est que tout le monde speed, pas le temps de réfléchir, les question s'enchainent(dedans, dehors, fumeur, non-fumeur, coin pour poussette, le tit, intenable, qui voulait courir partout, bref notre serveur, un gars très stricte, en costard, pt'être un chef, nous propose de la langouste avec assortiment de légumes, on en a jamais mangé alors vendu!on a choisi dehors (car dedans pas très sympa genre vieille cafet)mais pas de bol plus de place alors il nous propose d'attendre à l'interieur(5min qu'il dit)et nous installe sur une table pleine de grosses tâches de gras.Apéro;bon là on commence à déchanter un peu.Au bout de 20min, un serveur déboule avec un petit plat de légumes dont il ne sait que faire, il hésite et finit par le poser sur notre table..et se casse.Bonnnn, 10min après, on s'impatiente, un autre serveur arrive, nous demande si c'est bien notre table et si le plat est à nous(???)ben pour la table non, pour le plat on sait pas...il repart, satisfait.aller on veut payer et se casser, manger une tite brochette ds la rue ce sera parfait, parceque là ça va bien!!!partez pas une place se libère dehors, on refuse, il insiste, fffffffff, ok.On nous installe, évidement le plat froid de légumes nous suit, et on nous donne des couverts(cuillère grasse de sauce, assiette pas lavée)là Mich s'énerve:de une on veut des couverts corrects, de deux qu'on nous change ce put...de plat froid...on attend...encore 10min et là(les nerfs sont bien mais bien montés)un couple se dresse, scandalisé, ils viennent d'avoir la douloureuse et croyez-moi dans ce resto, l'expression prend tout son sens!ils gueulent, on les éloignent(sévèrement)ils ont l'air de mettre en garde un autre couple à coté...qui peu de temps après accusent le même coup, se dirigent vers nous, nous demandent si on sait ce qu'on va manger et surtout le prix que ça nous coutera!! là un des costard(de vrais têtes de mafieux)l'attrappe durement le bras et l'oblige à se rassoir....on hallucine et ça fait 20min de plus au compteur, avec assiettes mais sans plat😕on se lève, on se casse....on nous retient, et le plat arrive com par magie en travers du chemin....une belle langouste entiere et un plat de légumes tout neuf, on leur explique que c'est pas serieux, abusé, ils insistent, qu'est-ce qu'on est gentil alors! on s'assois et on mange:la langouste est bonne, les légumes à l'eau.vite l'addition, on est inquiets, com la plupart des autres tablées du reste.L'anglaise gueule tjrs et là notre douloureuse arrive: 7000€!!!!!!!!!!ben oui une langouste, on y mange 400gr, mais on la paye entière c'est à dire 1, 6kg à 300bths/100gr fô le savoir...+le service🤪 non-inclu à 650bths, une shinga à 60, la flotte à 40, deux serviettes froides sous plastique, gracieusement offertes, à 40 bths au final, et les légumes j'sais plus combien...bref on croit réver..on s'insurge, veux vérifier, là le costard nous répond que c'est marqué sur les cartes(ha oui lesquelles?)et là j'entend déjà vos réponses, ben oui fô demander les cartes m'enfin vu le standing, même si c'était cher on s'attend pas à ça kan même!!
on rejoint le couple d'anglais à l'entrée, au passage tout le monde nous demande ce qu'il se passe, s'étonne, s'inquiete, la salle tremble pour la douloureuse(apparement tous à la même enseigne, sans cartes!)on se croyait ds un mauvais film! on essaye de nous faire taire, le ton est menaçant, Mich estt dirigé dans un coin, à une table ou sont installés 3 gaillards.L'un se presente et, les dents serrées, tend sa carte:il est militaire et fô payer.Mich, sans crier depuis le debut, explique qu'il n'est pas d'accord sur la façon de faire et on lui répond: ok vous bougez pas on reviens...on stresse, veut en finir vite et comprenons qu'on fait pas le poids, Mich va payer, l'anglais aussi, sa femme gueule tjrs et reussi même a convaincre plusieurs couples (sans mal)de rebrousser chemin....on s'en va.
maintenant, ok, j'assume ma naiveté au niveau des prix mais bon apparement on est nombreux...mais ce qui m'a le plus estomaquée c'est le principe:"tu t'assois, tu manges ce qu'on t'donne, tu te plaint pas, tu paye, tu te casse". le sourire il est pas inclu ni même prévu.et aussi la dureté.Alors les 1ers voyageurs, méfiez-vous des "pub"dans la rue surtout si on insiste pour que vous y alliez de suite et n'aller pas dans ce resto!!!
Par contre j'ai une tite adresse très sympathique...le "By my ghest"sud-ouest de Bkk sur les bords du Chao, c'est simple fô prendre la navette qui traverse à coté du Sheraton, et à la descente du bateau prendre de suite a gauche, aller jusqu'au bout du ponton et vous y êtes...ambiance bab, tranquille et calme, vue sur le Chao, la bouffe est thai et délicieuse, pas cher, personnel super sympa, et cerise sur le gateau: deux thai vous joueront des ballades accompagnés de leur guitares sèches, entrecoupés par du Jack Jhonson, eagles, et autres...la classe😄mais attention, la dernière navette pour le retour est à 22h...dommage, j'serais bien restée😛
l'ouverture d'esprit sur le monde est l'une des plus merveilleuse experience qu'il nous soit donné.
7000baths....et pas un de moins! donc même si t'as vu la carte, que tu joue le jeu...ben si le service est super long, et laisse a désirer....ben tu la ferme et tu paie....les anglais:2500baths pour un morceau de poisson....
l'ouverture d'esprit sur le monde est l'une des plus merveilleuse experience qu'il nous soit donné.
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je vais ragoter encore une fois🤪, , mais VF est la pour vous éviter ces désagréments........😛 😛😛 d'autres écrivent leurs mésaventures pour vous, , , ce n'est pas par masochisme, , <<<<<<<<<<<<< anti solution arnaque >>>>>>>>>>>
thuan il propose les resto a 3 euros, , ( avant c'était 2 🤪) il y en a partout !!!!!!!!!! manger autant que vous voulez, ( boisson non comprises, , ) a ce prix la on peut inviter un tas de thai, , et garantie une soiree sanook, ,

je vais ragoter encore une fois🤪, , mais VF est la pour vous éviter ces désagréments........😛 😛😛 d'autres écrivent leurs mésaventures pour vous, , , ce n'est pas par masochisme, , <<<<<<<<<<<<< anti solution arnaque >>>>>>>>>>>
thuan il propose les resto a 3 euros, , ( avant c'était 2 🤪) il y en a partout !!!!!!!!!! manger autant que vous voulez, ( boisson non comprises, , ) a ce prix la on peut inviter un tas de thai, , et garantie une soiree sanook, ,

« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Oh la la, l'abus, heureusement que j'ai ma chérie avec moi, sinon je serais peut être déjà tombé dans ce genre d'embrouille...
Je comprend que c'est resté en travers !
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Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
nous pas trop on gueulait pas...ils avaient vraiment le visage fermé, nous regardaient durement et c'étaient pas des ptits gabarits! et le message est bien passé par le militaire! par contre pour l'anglaise carrement!! kan il lui a serrer le bras et l'a ramené a sa table contre son gré, il rigolait pas😠 ils savent mettre la pression!! kan tu connais pas le pays et ses arnaques ben tu sais pas jusqu'ou ça peut aller...et là c'était bien suffisant, pour dire Mich a qui il en faut pas mal n'a pas voulu rentrer de suite, au cas ou.....
l'ouverture d'esprit sur le monde est l'une des plus merveilleuse experience qu'il nous soit donné.
rhoooooooo j'savais que j'allais m'faire taper sur les doigts😊🙁et par Thuan en plus!!! je suis tjrs tes conseils et les autres aussi bien sur! mais voilà une soirée d'égarement....sinon j'les adorent tes tites adresses!! promis j'te f'rais plus radoter😊😛
l'ouverture d'esprit sur le monde est l'une des plus merveilleuse experience qu'il nous soit donné.
rhoooooooo j'savais que j'allais m'faire taper sur les doigtset
🙁 par Thuan en plus!!! je suis tjrs tes conseils et les autres aussi bien sur! mais voilà une soirée d'égarement....sinon j'les adorent tes tites adresses!! promis j'te f'rais plus radoterpas
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du tout ........... simplement espérons que ton expérience soit entendu oui il y a des arnaques, , la preuve c'est que ses restos, ont des malabar a la caisse a vous attendre, , c'est bien que vous été pas les seul a faire ses expériences, , , , plus la crevette ou langouste est grande plus l'arnaque est la, ,
🙁 par Thuan en plus!!! je suis tjrs tes conseils et les autres aussi bien sur! mais voilà une soirée d'égarement....sinon j'les adorent tes tites adresses!! promis j'te f'rais plus radoterpas
😛du tout ........... simplement espérons que ton expérience soit entendu oui il y a des arnaques, , la preuve c'est que ses restos, ont des malabar a la caisse a vous attendre, , c'est bien que vous été pas les seul a faire ses expériences, , , , plus la crevette ou langouste est grande plus l'arnaque est la, ,

« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Bien la photo de "pho khung pao" Ratchada ! 😎
cependant, le kilo de grosses crevettes (gambas d'eau douce) grillees dans cet etablissement est autour de 400 baht le kilo tandis qu'au populaire marche de Huay Kwang, c'est bien au-dela et l'hygiene laisse vraiment a desirer...
En general, dans les restos d'autant si les tarifs ne sont pas clairs, il ne faut pas hesiter a demander les prix avant la commande puis bien eplucher l'addition ou plutot les differentes notes qui s'empilent les unes sur les autres comme font les locaux...
Et comme le disait thuan, on peut faire un tres bon repas pour 3 euros et meme pour 1.50 euro dans bon nombre de coins...
En tous les cas, merci pour le compte rendu initial, j'espere un de ces quatre aller y casser la croute avec l'equipe de rugby juste pour voir comment ils font les malins ! 😕
Bien la photo de "pho khung pao" Ratchada !
exact, , mais bon la crevette d'eau douce n'est pas cher, ,
grosse tête petit corps, , , , , , 🤪
comme il faut être positif, , il y a un très bon coin ( ou les seuls blancs que vous verres c'est que ils sont de VF ), , bon et pas cher, , c'est le soir au dessus de samyan market, du cote de chula university, , garanti ambiance très thai, les plats tes bien garnit dans les 50 a 60 bt, , ( attention y aller avec quelqu'un qui parle thaïe, car tout est en thai, , ) on ne peut pas faire plus frais le marché est dans le même bâtiment, , ne pas vous attendre a un decora la macdonald, , il y a l'embarras du choix, , au moins 30 !!!
ils font un excellent phat pou kary, , ( voir photo )
comme il faut être positif, , il y a un très bon coin ( ou les seuls blancs que vous verres c'est que ils sont de VF ), , bon et pas cher, , c'est le soir au dessus de samyan market, du cote de chula university, , garanti ambiance très thai, les plats tes bien garnit dans les 50 a 60 bt, , ( attention y aller avec quelqu'un qui parle thaïe, car tout est en thai, , ) on ne peut pas faire plus frais le marché est dans le même bâtiment, , ne pas vous attendre a un decora la macdonald, , il y a l'embarras du choix, , au moins 30 !!!
ils font un excellent phat pou kary, , ( voir photo )

« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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😛 Ben je crois que j'irais pas non plus...😠
On fait pas d'omelettes sans casser les oeufs :)
😉😉😉😉 et plus ca a l'air clean et plus c'est souvent ....l'arnaque !
merci aussi de l'info, tu vois meme en etant sur place, on sait pas tout.... !!!
merci aussi de l'info, tu vois meme en etant sur place, on sait pas tout.... !!!
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
MDRMDR😄
mais bon la crevette d'eau douce n'est pas cher, ,
grosse tête petit corps, , , , , , 🤪
C'est clair, sur un bon etal 30-50 et jusqu'a 100 baht le kilo a Bangkok aujourd'hui ! Et dans un restaurant convenable en Thailande profonde et qui en fait l'elevage, c'est au moins 100 baht les 500 grammes...
Le probleme est de croire que la langouste (khang) est bon marche au Siam ? Jamais de la vie, ce crustace a toujours ete tres cher. D'ailleurs, il n'est pas rare d'entendre un(e) thailandais(e) dire "n'en n'avoir jamais manger"...
C'est clair, sur un bon etal 30-50 et jusqu'a 100 baht le kilo a Bangkok aujourd'hui ! Et dans un restaurant convenable en Thailande profonde et qui en fait l'elevage, c'est au moins 100 baht les 500 grammes...
Le probleme est de croire que la langouste (khang) est bon marche au Siam ? Jamais de la vie, ce crustace a toujours ete tres cher. D'ailleurs, il n'est pas rare d'entendre un(e) thailandais(e) dire "n'en n'avoir jamais manger"...
Bonsoir
Eh ben, moi je n'aurais pas payé et j'appelerai la police de tourisme.En tout cas, je n'entre pas dans un resto sans cartes avec les tarifs.
Lors de mon séjour à Bkk, j'ai été me balader au marché de Klong Toey et j'ai vu que les fruits de mer n'étaient pas chers du tout.
Effectivement, ça fait mal😠
ouiiiiiiiii c'est lui le costard😠 qui s'est occupé de nous!!! on devrait mettre un stand à photos à la sortie pour la même pose, savez après on la met dans le fond d'une assiette avec chevalet, pour la vitrine de mamie😏😏😏!!
l'ouverture d'esprit sur le monde est l'une des plus merveilleuse experience qu'il nous soit donné.
eh ben ! Beau piege a pigeons !
Ceci dit, j'ai jamais eu 7000 bahts sur moi, je ne sais pas comment ca se serait passé (la CB au cas où, on l'aurait bien planquée, parce que c'est pas le genre de truc a leur donner a ces loustics).
Pis toutes facons, jamais on aurait suivi un inconnu pour aller manger, surtout si c'etait pas a cote.
C'est bien de faire confiance, mais d'un autre cote, c'est quand meme un gros classique de se faire rabattre de la sorte, que ce soit pour un resto, un magasin, etc...
Et 3eme erreur, ne pas demander le tarif et la carte...
Bref, c'est pas pour etre mechant hein, mais soit ils sont super forts, soit le resto etait rempli de bon gros pigeons qui accumulent les bourdes ! 😉
Bref, c'est pas pour etre mechant hein, mais soit ils sont super forts, soit le resto etait rempli de bon gros pigeons qui accumulent les bourdes ! 😉
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Je pars en thailande le 15 mars apres les conseils d un ami qui pars souvent la bas si tu vois un resto avec beaucoup de thailandais et peu de pharang tu es pratiquement sur de ne pas te tromper sur la qualité du resto et d avoir un repas "bon rapport qualité prix"🤪
Je pars en thailande le 15 mars apres les conseils d un ami qui pars souvent la bas si tu vois un resto avec beaucoup de thailandais et peu de pharang tu es pratiquement sur de ne pas te tromper sur la qualité du resto et d avoir un repas "bon rapport qualité prix"🤪
oui enfin c'etait une arnaque a proprement parler
faut pas exagerer
c'est comme le durian, tu le paies au kilo avec la carcasse
ca pese 5 kilo et dedans y a 1/4 de fruits
il fallait se renseigner avant c'est tout
pour les fruits de mer, tu as des resto plus chers que d'autres, parfois on paie le decor et le faux semblant de luxe et de service
si on se renseigne avant de manger, on se fait pas avoir, si tu attends d'avoir tout englouti pour decouvrir une note salee...
c'est marrant, mais qd ca touche des francais, c'est systematiquement de l'arnaque on a eu des clients recemment, ils ont eu un malentendu avec leur agent de voyage et le premier mot qu'ils m'ont sorti c'est "on s'est fait arnaquer" y a des etrangers qui voyagent a longueur d'année sans souci, mais au premier pepin pour le touriste francais, c'est la mort assuree...
faut pas exagerer
c'est comme le durian, tu le paies au kilo avec la carcasse
ca pese 5 kilo et dedans y a 1/4 de fruits
il fallait se renseigner avant c'est tout
pour les fruits de mer, tu as des resto plus chers que d'autres, parfois on paie le decor et le faux semblant de luxe et de service
si on se renseigne avant de manger, on se fait pas avoir, si tu attends d'avoir tout englouti pour decouvrir une note salee...
c'est marrant, mais qd ca touche des francais, c'est systematiquement de l'arnaque on a eu des clients recemment, ils ont eu un malentendu avec leur agent de voyage et le premier mot qu'ils m'ont sorti c'est "on s'est fait arnaquer" y a des etrangers qui voyagent a longueur d'année sans souci, mais au premier pepin pour le touriste francais, c'est la mort assuree...
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et vf est la, , , , 😉 puis je crois pour éviter, , cela il faut donner des alternatives, , a votre clavier pour les bons restos???? une fois que on a un carnet d'adresse pas besoins de rentrer dans ses restos a pigeon, , on vois, , beaucoup, , je me suis fait avoir, , , mais pas souvent, , aller a telle endroit c'est pas mal, , par exemple a ma connaissance, , je n'ai jamais vu, , ce super resto au laos, ,
et vf est la, , , , 😉 puis je crois pour éviter, , cela il faut donner des alternatives, , a votre clavier pour les bons restos???? une fois que on a un carnet d'adresse pas besoins de rentrer dans ses restos a pigeon, , on vois, , beaucoup, , je me suis fait avoir, , , mais pas souvent, , aller a telle endroit c'est pas mal, , par exemple a ma connaissance, , je n'ai jamais vu, , ce super resto au laos, ,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Perso,
C'est dans les marches que la bouffe est meilleurs.................
C'est dans les marches que la bouffe est meilleurs.................
S.D
Perso,
C'est dans les marches que la bouffe est meilleurs.................
et pour le portefeuille, , ne pas oublier que les thais sont intelligents, , il n'y a pas de TVA sur les aliments, , ils estiment que c'est un besoin vitale, photo un bami nam excellent 20 bt et avec le sourire, ,
C'est dans les marches que la bouffe est meilleurs.................
et pour le portefeuille, , ne pas oublier que les thais sont intelligents, , il n'y a pas de TVA sur les aliments, , ils estiment que c'est un besoin vitale, photo un bami nam excellent 20 bt et avec le sourire, ,

« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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et du calme!! soyez pas si dur(et je parle surtout pour Enzo0511)!! c'est pas parce que vous connaissez le pays ou avez l'habitude de voyager qu'il faut prendre les autres pour des neuneus!! déjà on a suivi personne(j'sais pas ou t'as vu ça)on a discuté un bon quart d'heure avec lui et il nous a proposé ce resto parcequ'on a parler d'aller manger un bout....y'a des thais qui nous ont refilé de très bonnes adresses donc on s'est pas méfiés.et pis pour la CB ben oui on l'a en cas de pepin(pas prévu ce genre évidement).J'ai hesité un bon moment avant de poster à cause, justement, de ce genre de réponses que j'attendais et que je trouve vraiment très nuls(me suis pas trompée, c'est grave quand même!!)....et ça va pas aider tous ceux qui voudront partager (et prévenir)leurs mésaventures....
M'enfin quoi??? parcequ'on a lu vf(et croyez-moi, j'en ai passé des heures dessus pour préparer le voyage, y compris sur les arnaques)on doit être parfait, ne faire aucun faux-pas? c'est pas parcequ'on s'est informé qu'on ne va pas être emerveillés par les beautés du pays, la gentillesse et le sourire des thais, ni qu'on ne va pas se faire avoir non plus(endormis justement par l'habituelle gentillesse)même si vf aide énormément....ça fait parti des découvertes et des surprises, non? oui 1000 balles ça nous a fait chier mais mon mari travaille ici, le voyage, l'hotel et les repas sont payés par la boite, alors ça ne nous gâche pas le plaisir(pas de mort assurée, non, non!)....si j'ai voulu prévenir c'est ceux(les pigeons com nous) qui ont économisé toute l'année pour venir, qui ont un budget restreint, et pour qui, ça ferait un beau gâchis....
J'ai dit que j'assumais ma naiveté pour les prix....vous avez écrit juste pour en remettre une couche? inutile et idiot! et ce que je qualifie d'arnaque, c'est la façon de speeder les gens pour qu'ils ne prennent pas le temps de demander quoi que se soit(surtout nous, ils nous ont vu arriver avec le gosse qui était intenable)et leur brutalité, un service déplorable, un décor très, très loin du luxe(pour mettre à l'aise)....même si on y va, conscient des prix, il est quand même à déconseiller pour ça....alors arretez de bloquer uniquement sur les tarifs et cartes!!! et mon ressenti, vu les resultats des recherches d'autres forumistes, est international pas français! par contre ce que je peux voir des français, c'est que'apparement du moment qu'ils en savent un peu mieux, se permettent d'être autains, et se prennent pour des zoros...
Ce forum n'est-il pas un forum d'entraide??? ou doit-on montrer patte blanche pour y participer???
alors s'il vous plait, vos moqueries et vos"moi j'aurais jamais fais ça, parceque moi j'suis parfait" gardez-les pour vous, ça n'avance personne!
Par contre com le dit Thuan, ne pas hésiter à donner de bonnes adresses, ça c'est constructif!! j'suis à Bkk pour 4 mois, mon carnet n'est donc pas plein....et je répète la mienne au passage:le "by my guest" en face du Sheraton, de l'autre côté de la rive....
Tiens, pis une autre:le "Ban klang nam"288, soi 14 Rama 3, un excelent seafood au bord du Chao....
Merci à tous ceux qui ont accordé de l'importance à mon post, réalistes, qui malgrés leurs efforts pour l'éviter, reconnaissent être d'éventuels "pigeons"....enfin que ça peut arriver à tout le monde, quoi!!
l'ouverture d'esprit sur le monde est l'une des plus merveilleuse experience qu'il nous soit donné.
Oui c'est vrai ça, on n'est pas des robots, et puis entre la théorie et la pratique il y a une marge...Mais bon je suis sûr que Valent ne se fera plus avoir maintenant 😉, c'est ca aussi les voyages, vivre des trucs, faire des expériences (bonnes ou mauvaises) ...Alors soyez indulgents avec les personnes qui se confient, il se peut bien qu'un jour vous vous retrouviez à leur place 🙂
Merci pour les adresses, je pars ce soir pour BKK, donc je résume:faut absolument tester le somboonde seafood? 😛🙂🙂
On fait pas d'omelettes sans casser les oeufs :)
Yo Valentine!
Merci! d'avoir reagi comme tu l'as fais!
Merci pour ton humble temoignage tu es courageuse et bien bonne de nous l'avoir relate.
Ya un cote voyeur a suivre les 'bottes' des zoros, mais la ils se sont goure de 'mechant'...
Bon voyages en famille...et au plaisir de lire d'autres temoignages...que je vs souhaite moins 'malheureux'
seul les nouveau nes ne se sont pas encore fait 'arnaque'...
Merci! d'avoir reagi comme tu l'as fais!
Merci pour ton humble temoignage tu es courageuse et bien bonne de nous l'avoir relate.
Ya un cote voyeur a suivre les 'bottes' des zoros, mais la ils se sont goure de 'mechant'...
Bon voyages en famille...et au plaisir de lire d'autres temoignages...que je vs souhaite moins 'malheureux'
seul les nouveau nes ne se sont pas encore fait 'arnaque'...
entendu en afrique: l'argent est un bon serviteur mais un mauvais maitre...
Bon coup de sang, ,
je trouve toujours très positif les post ou les membres mettent en garde les petites arnaques qui nous attends tous,
cela fait partie également du voyage, , éviter ses désagrément
par exemple une guest house a beau nom mais dont les lits sont squatter par des petites bebetes qui attendent le sang venu d'ailleurs, ,
et les autres, ,
oui la thailande ou le sud est asiatique n'est pas des paradis exotiques
ce sont tout simplement des pays, , avec ses qualités et ses défaut
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Benjamin Disraeli
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par exemple une guest house a beau nom mais dont les lits sont squatter par des petites bebetes qui attendent le sang venu d'ailleurs, ,
Mon dieu...🤪😛
Mon dieu...🤪😛
On fait pas d'omelettes sans casser les oeufs :)
T'inquietes pas valent6, meme prévenu on se fait avoir de temps en temps car on est en vacances, on est bien avec des gens sympas et hop....j'ai passé un apres midi a faire le tour de BKK en tuk tuk a visiter non pas les temples que je voulais voir mais ...des magasins de fringues, de bijoux et des TAT pour que mon "gentil" chauffeur puissent avoir des coupons d'essence (et qui m'a largué pres du marble temple car j'ai dis stop) 🤪 et pourtant je connaissais le truc 😕 tout ca parceque j'avais discuté avec un type sympa soit disant prof de francais qui m'avait convaincu du truc 😏, mais bon j'ai rien acheté, juste perdu mon temps 😄
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Bah moi aussi j'ai succombé à des petits "attrappe" touristes.
A Ubud (Bali), un gars super gentil qui nous propose de nous ceuillir et faire gouter un jus de noix de coco dans les rizieres... avant de nous parler de ses dents, de ce que ca coute de les faire soigner, etc... et de nous demander de l'argent donc... A Manali (Nepal), un moine qui fait des prieres pour nous, mais qui nous incite fortement a mettre un billet fort cher pour "don" (lui est pourtant connu meme dans les guides), Sur le mekong au Laos vers Paksé, où on est invité gentiment a venir dormir dans une maison lao d'un village paumé (le bateau devait faire le stop de la nuit), et apres on nous demande pour la nuit et le repas plus que ce qu'on aurait payé en ville, Doit y en avoir d'autres...
mais tout ca releve plus de la debrouille locale que de la veritable arnaque vu les sommes en jeu. Le resto en question, c'est un peu pareil, mais en plus organisé, plus cher, et donc plus condamnable.
En fait pour nous occidentaux ca releve de l'arnaque parce qu'on fonctionne sur un principe clair : on est censé avoir les regles avant, dont le prix si la presta se paye. On a l'habitude des prix affichés, et souvent fixes. Alors quand on nous demande de payer ou de payer plus cher que prévu quelquechose, alors qu'a priori le cote payant ou le tarif n'était pas du tout annoncé, eh bien on le prend mal et on crie a l'arnaque.
Du coup maintenant, soit on continue a faire un peu confiance pour ne pas refuser des vrais gestes de generosité, soit on la joue parano et on prefere tout refuser de peur de rentrer dans un attrappe touriste. Perso, c'est peut-etre bete, mais je penche en general plutot du cote parano, c'est pour ca que le coup de ce resto, je risquerais plus d'y tomber, parce que y'a en gros 2 ou 3 "erreurs" cumulées.
VF est bien pour ca (et si un jour je me fais avoir, je n'hesiterai pas a mon tour a le declarer ici meme, histoire que ca serve aux autres, meme si je dois me faire traiter de gros pigeon avec humour mais sans mechanceté), mais les guides papier en parlent aussi souvent (comme la visite de la ville par un taxi pour toucher des coms, ou le coup de l'hotel annoncé complet d'avance, ou tel market soit disant fermé le jour J, ou le meter du taxi qui est cassé, etc...).
A Ubud (Bali), un gars super gentil qui nous propose de nous ceuillir et faire gouter un jus de noix de coco dans les rizieres... avant de nous parler de ses dents, de ce que ca coute de les faire soigner, etc... et de nous demander de l'argent donc... A Manali (Nepal), un moine qui fait des prieres pour nous, mais qui nous incite fortement a mettre un billet fort cher pour "don" (lui est pourtant connu meme dans les guides), Sur le mekong au Laos vers Paksé, où on est invité gentiment a venir dormir dans une maison lao d'un village paumé (le bateau devait faire le stop de la nuit), et apres on nous demande pour la nuit et le repas plus que ce qu'on aurait payé en ville, Doit y en avoir d'autres...
mais tout ca releve plus de la debrouille locale que de la veritable arnaque vu les sommes en jeu. Le resto en question, c'est un peu pareil, mais en plus organisé, plus cher, et donc plus condamnable.
En fait pour nous occidentaux ca releve de l'arnaque parce qu'on fonctionne sur un principe clair : on est censé avoir les regles avant, dont le prix si la presta se paye. On a l'habitude des prix affichés, et souvent fixes. Alors quand on nous demande de payer ou de payer plus cher que prévu quelquechose, alors qu'a priori le cote payant ou le tarif n'était pas du tout annoncé, eh bien on le prend mal et on crie a l'arnaque.
Du coup maintenant, soit on continue a faire un peu confiance pour ne pas refuser des vrais gestes de generosité, soit on la joue parano et on prefere tout refuser de peur de rentrer dans un attrappe touriste. Perso, c'est peut-etre bete, mais je penche en general plutot du cote parano, c'est pour ca que le coup de ce resto, je risquerais plus d'y tomber, parce que y'a en gros 2 ou 3 "erreurs" cumulées.
VF est bien pour ca (et si un jour je me fais avoir, je n'hesiterai pas a mon tour a le declarer ici meme, histoire que ca serve aux autres, meme si je dois me faire traiter de gros pigeon avec humour mais sans mechanceté), mais les guides papier en parlent aussi souvent (comme la visite de la ville par un taxi pour toucher des coms, ou le coup de l'hotel annoncé complet d'avance, ou tel market soit disant fermé le jour J, ou le meter du taxi qui est cassé, etc...).
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Namast Web - Après 8 ans d'absence en Asie, retour en famille à partir de 2006 (Thailande, Cambodge, Vietnam, Maroc, Jordanie, Chili, Bali, Inde)
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Bah moi aussi j'ai succombé à des petits "attrappe" touristes.
également, , j'étais complètement perdu dans bkk, , je prend un taxi lui donne l'adresse il me dit 100 bt ( c'est avant les taxi meter ) .
je dis ok, , il faut 50 mètres max, , et il me dit c'est la, , , 😠, 😕
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Benjamin Disraeli
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😏😏😏...oui mais 7000 baths faut les avoirs, je me ballade pas avec autant, heureusement qiu'ils ont pu payer...la c'est plus que de l'arnaque, c'est du raket 🙁
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Oh la la çà me fait un peu réfléchir tout çà...
Je retourne en Thailande pour la 2ème fois en janvier et mon ami crève d'envie de se faire un seafood market (pour le principe de choisir ses poissons...) à Bangkok.
J'avais trouvé ce resto là http://www.seafood.co.th/ sur Sukhumvit et quand je lis "plus c'est clean plus c'est l'arnaque" çà me fait réfléchir à 2 fois avant d'y aller.. je ne pourrais pas payer une telle addition..
Connaissez vous un seafood market avec "des prix thais", je m'entends, je sais que fruits de mer, poissons et compagnie sont plus chers que les plats à 20 baths dans la rue mais de là à en payer 7000.. il y a un gouffre.
Merci d'avance.
ce sea food est un des plus connu, avec clientéle 80% thai ; tu choisi ce que tu veux en fonction de ce que tu veux dépenser !
ce n'est âs une arnaque, les prix sont correct rapport qualité prix;
j'y suis allé plusieurs fois, jamais déçu !
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J'ai vecu la meme arnaque dans ce resto en decembre 2007.Repas moyen a 2 et a la fin une note de 8000 baths..Tout est vendu au poids, donc impossible de savoir avant le montant de la note..Et tout le monde se fait avoir...j'ai refusé de payer, et ce malgré leurs tentatives d'intimidation.Ma compagne faisait fuir les gens qui arrivaient en leur racontant l'arnaque..J'ai demandé au patron d'appeler la police touristique, il a commencé a changer d'attitude, et tente de negocier a 6000....puis 5000..Je refusais toujours de payer estimant ce repas mediocre a 2000 maxi...la situation devenait tres tendue, les clients potentiels repartaient, il refusait d'appeler la tourist police..je m'entetait a refuser de payer..il a fini par me demander combien je voulais payer..J'ai dis 2000..Tout ça au bout de 20 mn de palabres...Il a dit ok en s'enervant...on a posé 2000...et on est parti en se faisant insulter....Je m'etais promis de faire un post sur eux en rentrant..et puis bon j'ai laissé tomber..Je profite donc d'etre tombé sur celui ci pour en remettre une couche...A fuir absolument..A bangkok pour manger poissons et fruits de mer sympa le soir preferez chinatown le long de yaowarat ...un tas de petits restos en pleine rue ou on mange delicieusement et pour vraiment pas cher...Il faut en plus faire assez fort pour arriver a depasser 1000 baths a 2...
pascal
quand je lis "plus c'est clean plus c'est l'arnaque" çà me fait réfléchir à 2 fois avant d'y aller.. je ne pourrais pas payer une telle addition..
J'adore ce genre de principe🤪🤪🤪 Perso, il m'arrive d'aller dans des endroits très clean et de ne pas me faire arnaquer. je préfère allez savoir pourquoi, quand je mange un endroit plutôt clean d'ailleurs... Et si j'ai bien lu le post d'origine, le resto à 7000 bahts n'était pas clean du tout...Alors les généralisations....
J'adore ce genre de principe🤪🤪🤪 Perso, il m'arrive d'aller dans des endroits très clean et de ne pas me faire arnaquer. je préfère allez savoir pourquoi, quand je mange un endroit plutôt clean d'ailleurs... Et si j'ai bien lu le post d'origine, le resto à 7000 bahts n'était pas clean du tout...Alors les généralisations....
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
je ne comprends pas, cela ne doit pas etre le meme resto, car là tu fais tes courses sur l'étal, tu payes à la caisse ( comme dans un super service ) ; ensuite tu ne payes plus que les boissons et les suppléments!
donc tu ne peux pas te faire avoir .
c'est le sea food au fond du soi 24 sur sukhumvit !
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We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
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Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
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Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
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We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
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Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!

