Salut a tous,
Ce matin, en rentrant de ma petite sortie a velo, j apercois de loin un vehicule de la police genre panier a salade, le vehicule est arreter en bord de route juste en face d un restaurant en pleine campagne. Passant a coter, je jette un coup d oeil dans le camion cage et horrifier j apercois pleins de pauvres Birmans torse nus, entassee comme du betail en plein caniard sous un soleil de plomb alors que les policiers dejeunent tranquillement tous en rigolant sans se soucier des Birmans.
On ne désire pas ce qu'on ne connaît pas.
On écrit pour raconter, non pour prouver.
tu est sur que c'est des Birmans ?
ce n'etait pas des detenus de droit commun ?
si c'est les rescapés du container de la mort,
le fourgon de police correspond pour eux a un car VIP,
tu as fais la remarque aux tamrouats ?
tu n'avais pas encore remarqué qu'il y en a pleins pleins qui travaillent dans l'hotelerie pour une poignée de baths ?
tu est sur que c'est des Birmans ?
ce n'etait pas des detenus de droit commun ?
Ce sort ne semble pas réservé uniquement à ceux que tu cites !
J'ai eu l'occasion de voir à la frontière thaïlo-cambodgienne ces véhicules (genre grand pick-up) avec une cage.
A l'intérieur hommes, femmes, enfants et leurs bagages.
Entassés, comprimés à ne pas pouvoir s'assoir et attendant sous un soleil de plomb leur expulsion du territoire.
sur pour les birmans ???, , car le droit comun est souvent en torse nu, ( raison de securitee, ) mais je bien croire que c'est un four, , en plus un bon noir bien mate 🤪🤪
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Comme quoi la haine du clandestin, du sans papers, de l'immigre....n'est pas l'apanage de sarko
faut arreter de dire n'importe quoi
c'est simpliste et gratuit, pas tres malin en somme
tu fais partie de ces gens qui doivent croire que l'apologie du racisme est ancre au sommet de l'etat
si tu voyageais un peu plus, tu pourrais te rendre compte que l'immigrationt choisie existe dans de nombreux pays
en commencant par la thailande, moi qui ai vecu et travaille, je peux te dire a quel point il est difficile d'immigrer a condition qu'un employeur fasse la demarche justifiee pour m'octroyer un permis de sejour/travail
la france ne fait que rejoindre certains pays qui pratiquent deja l'immigration selective depuis belles lurettes, les etats unis, le canada/quebec, l'australie, la suisse et j'en passe
si on devait etre aussi reducteurs alors tous les pays cites seraient racistes...
il est fini le temps de l'etat providence qui accueille a tout va
pour pouvoir accueillir a nouveau, il faudrait deja assainir notre economie...
Ca me fait bien rire car effectivement il n'y a pas d'immigrant francais venant en Asie...😉😉😉
Qui est europeen de souche en ayant obtenu la nationalité Thailandaise, Laotienne ou Cambodgienne... ??? (par exemple) (je sais qu'on va me tuer mais c'est vrais sur tous les expats qui sont sur place depuis 40 ans) (j'exagere bien sur...mais le problème reste)
Je trouve ca injuste....🙁🙁🙁
mai pen rai krap
j'ecrit sur clavier américain désolé pour les accents...
tu est sur que c'est des Birmans ?
ce n'etait pas des detenus de droit commun ?
si c'est les rescapés du container de la mort,
le fourgon de police correspond pour eux a un car VIP,
tu as fais la remarque aux tamrouats ?
tu n'avais pas encore remarqué qu'il y en a pleins pleins qui travaillent dans l'hotelerie pour une poignée de baths ?
Pourquoi ne pas honnetement et une bonne fois pour toute resumer cette relation entre Birmans et Thais ainsi...........:
certaines categories de la population thailandaise (flics, patrons de l hotellerie, du batiment et de certains bars, etc........) meprisent les birmans qu'ils considerent comme de la vermine ou de la marchandise bon marche..........!
Il suffit d'ouvrir un peu les yeux et de ne pas se voiler la face! C est tout!
Comme quoi la haine du clandestin, du sans papers, de l'immigre....n'est pas l'apanage de sarko
faut arreter de dire n'importe quoi
c'est simpliste et gratuit, pas tres malin en somme
tu fais partie de ces gens qui doivent croire que l'apologie du racisme est ancre au sommet de l'etat
si tu voyageais un peu plus, tu pourrais te rendre compte que l'immigrationt choisie existe dans de nombreux pays
en commencant par la thailande, moi qui ai vecu et travaille, je peux te dire a quel point il est difficile d'immigrer a condition qu'un employeur fasse la demarche justifiee pour m'octroyer un permis de sejour/travail
la france ne fait que rejoindre certains pays qui pratiquent deja l'immigration selective depuis belles lurettes, les etats unis, le canada/quebec, l'australie, la suisse et j'en passe
si on devait etre aussi reducteurs alors tous les pays cites seraient racistes...
il est fini le temps de l'etat providence qui accueille a tout va
pour pouvoir accueillir a nouveau, il faudrait deja assainir notre economie...
🙂 Je pense avoir certainement avoir autant voyage que toi Je vis en Thailande, en tant que retraite depuis qques annees avec un Visa O (le Visa famille m'etant refuse tous les ans ) et devant fournir la preuve des 800 000 Bth.Mais ce n'est pas parceque les Thais sont racistes envers tous les etrangers (Thai rak Thai et personne d'autre, sauf le pognon ) que je dois approuver Je sais que sarko, en France, n'est pas le seul dans l'hexagone a etre raciste (fils d'immigre...plus royaliste que le roi ) mais il s'est servi de cela pour se faire elire...sinon..qui aurait vote pour lui ? C'est une recette electorale qui a cours presque partout..au Vatican, en Chine
1. les gens quiutilisent le mot "racisme' a tord et a travers
2. les anti-sarko primaires qui repetent docilement les slogans travailles dans les bureaux de la rue de Solferino
Comme quoi la haine du clandestin, du sans papers, de l'immigre....n'est pas l'apanage de sarko
la photo que tu vois ci dessous a été prise (en 2007)
au poste frontiere a Kaw Thaug, Birmanie
de l'autre coté de Ranong, Thaïlande
(j'ai faillit me faire confisqué l'appareil, çà m'a couté qq baths au douanier, main a la main)
la file d'attente c'est les chauffeurs de touk touk (birmans) qui attendent leurs compatriotes rentrant de Thaïlande,
tu sais pourquoi il portent pratiquement tous un casque ?
non ?
tu vois le gars en blanc ? c'est le "régulateur" qui prend un bachich au passage,
tous ceux qui sont pas d'accord,
s'en prennent plein la figure avec la baguette qu'il tient a la main,
et crois moi pas du genre caresses,
et la c'est un probleme Birman/Birman
autre pays autres moeurs
Au sommet d'une colline surplombant les trois pays (Thaîlande/Birmanie/Laos), un mahout nous fît la démonstration, à coup de rafales de mitraillette imaginaire, de l'expression d' "amitié" Thaîlando-Birmane, et dans son immense générosité arrosa le Laos...
en ce qui me concerne pour conclure :
il faut mettre de coté notre vision occidentale et,
vivre le pays et sa culture avant d'ecrire
" témoin d'une scène inhumaine"
Sachant qu'un Birman en Thailande vaut environ le 1000e d'un farang Backpacker qui claque royalement 100 Bt/jour, et qu'un farang qui claque des millions ne vaut guere plus que la moitie d'un pet de water buffalo constipe, je vous laisse calculer la valeur du Birman en pet dudit Buffalo....
Bref, a l'Est rien de nouveau....
poste frontiere de Mai Saï
la gentille petite bête se trouve du côté Thaï tournée vers la Birmanie
comme tu dis, çà resume
Contrairement à une bonne partie de l'Europe qui a su entreprendre une réconciliation forte après s'être déchirée durant des siècles, tous ces pays d'Extrême-Orient à part faire des associations entre eux pour le commerce demeurent assez constipés dans l'entente cordiale...
Est-ce une amertume coriace ou une incapacité à l'analyse du temps qui les distingue ? 😐
Ca me fait penser a mon voyage en Turquie.....Venant de Bulgarie en voiture, a la frontiere Turc, il y avais des creux remplis d'eaux, et on n'etais obligé de rouler dedans pour purifier les roues de la voiture.....Ca date de dix ans aussi.....
c est la meme chose au Moyen ORIENT et dans le golfe :
Va voir les camps de travailleurs du batiment en Arabie saoudite :
egyptiens, pakistanais, bengladeshis, phillipins entasses sur lits superposes dans des shelters non climatises
chauffes a blanc toute la journee que les gars retrouvent le soir apres une rude journee de labeur.
et si tu l ouvres un peu fort, expulsion du pays sans reglement du salaire comme pour les travailleurs du batiment a Dubai qui s etaient revoltes il y a quelques mois .
dans le plus ...luxueux :
les phillipins, jamaicains, honduriens employes sur les bateaux de croisiere de luxe .
descendez a fond de cale, il y a plein de cabines de 4, sans hublot, eclairage faiblard, beaucoup sans AC.
c est leur seul endroit pour vivre car l acces des ponts, coursives des cabines passagers leur sont quasiment
strictement interdits sans raison justifiee ( nettoyage de chambres, reparation}.
en general deux y dorment, pendant que les autres assurent l autre equipe .
pendant ce temps la la croisiere s amuse !!! en general on peut visiter la passerelle avec l accord du capiaine mais jamais le fond de cale .
Qui est europeen de souche en ayant obtenu la nationalité Thailandaise,
j'aurais pu, mais 300 000bt ma refroidit, 🤪🤪🤪
salut Thuan
j'ai rencontré un Belge en visitant le Preah vihear en Isan (frontière thai-cambo)ancien instructeur démineur dans la région pendant 15 ans; marié avec une thai et possédant la nationalite thai avec ID card; il me disait que ce n'était jamais "gagné"; par exemple à l'entrée du site on voulait lui faire payer le prix falang malgré sa carte d'identité thai (+ le reste un peu long à expliquer; les banques, les contrats, l'immobilier..etc)
- J'ai des envies de voyage."L'Océanie, Bora-Bora, les Vahinés, tu connais?"
- "Pourquoi, tu veux m'emmener?"
- "On n'emmène pas des saucisses quand on va à Francfort.."
- t'aurais pu dire;"une rose quand on va sur la Loire, question de terme.."
effectivement, je trouve cette pratique honteuse, entre ce qui leur arrive dans le transport des migrants et cette scène, il y a de quoi se poser des question d'autant que les flics semblent y prendre un malin plaisir.
Une chose est sûre, il faut faire quelque chose !!!!!!
sur les bateaux de croisiere de luxe .
descendez a fond de cale, il y a plein de cabines de 4, sans hublot, eclairage faiblard, beaucoup sans AC.
c est leur seul endroit pour vivre car l acces des ponts, coursives des cabines passagers leur sont quasiment
strictement interdits sans raison justifiee ( nettoyage de chambres, reparation}.
en general deux y dorment, pendant que les autres assurent l autre equipe .
pendant ce temps la la croisiere s amuse !!! en general on peut visiter la passerelle avec l accord du capiaine mais jamais le fond de cale .
Ouais ouais....D'ailleurs y a pas mal de thais qui bosse pour les croisieres costa......
Salut a tous,
Ce matin, en rentrant de ma petite sortie a velo, j apercois de loin un vehicule de la police genre panier a salade, le vehicule est arreter en bord de route juste en face d un restaurant en pleine campagne. Passant a coter, je jette un coup d oeil dans le camion cage et horrifier j apercois pleins de pauvres Birmans torse nus, entassee comme du betail en plein caniard sous un soleil de plomb alors que les policiers dejeunent tranquillement tous en rigolant sans se soucier des Birmans.--
Sois le bienvenu en Asie, mon ami... Tu n'es pas au bout de tes surprises!!! Actuellement, on voit bcp d'images contre la flamme olympique, mais si tu as le tps, regarde ds YOUTUBE en tapant HMONG et tu verras bien ce que cela parle. Cela s'est passé au pays du MILLION D'ELEPHANTS (LAOS).
Quelques mots prononcés ont parfois un effet dynamique, mais, à d'autres instants, c'est le silence qui laisse une empreinte plein de sens.
(Dalai Lama)
Salut a tous,
Ce matin, en rentrant de ma petite sortie a velo, j apercois de loin un vehicule de la police genre panier a salade, le vehicule est arreter en bord de route juste en face d un restaurant en pleine campagne. Passant a coter, je jette un coup d oeil dans le camion cage et horrifier j apercois pleins de pauvres Birmans torse nus, entassee comme du betail en plein caniard sous un soleil de plomb alors que les policiers dejeunent tranquillement tous en rigolant sans se soucier des Birmans.--
Sois le bienvenu en Asie, mon ami... Tu n'es pas au bout de tes surprises!!! Actuellement, on voit bcp d'images contre la flamme olympique, mais si tu as le tps, regarde ds YOUTUBE en tapant HMONG et tu verras bien ce que cela parle. Cela s'est passé au pays du MILLION D'ELEPHANTS (LAOS).
Salut Gengis et Lumpini,
En effet tu as raison Gengis je ne peux pas rester insensible à ton message dont j'avais poster à ce sujet des nouvelles triste il y a + ou - 1 an, et malheureusement ce n'est pas près d'en finir voici plus bas le texte d'une connaissance très bien placer pour en parler, le message çi dessous date de ce mois d'avril .
Ps : Désolé à tous de casser l'ambiance mais ce sont des choses à lire et à savoir .
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Comment allez-vous? Voici un texte peu encourageant sur la situation des Hmongs. Leur extermination totale est programmée pour la fin de ce mois. Tous les yeux sont rivés sur le Tibet et sur Ingrid Betancourt (normal vu que sa soeur est mariée au responsable des amériques au quai d'Orsay) et ce petit pays qui est le Laos n'intéresse personne même pas Rama Yade. J'ai alerté les personnalités politiques de Blois sans grand succès pour l'instant. Cela va faire comme tous les génocides qui ne sont pas assez médiatiques.
Cordialement
> Voici un article que je viens de recevoir aujourd'hui.Cette fois-ci,
> c'est le génocide des Hmong restant dans la jungle, simplement.
>
> Peut-on rester en spectateur? Contactez vos élus pour prendre des
> actions pour éviter le pire à venir.
> __
> Please, feel free to reach your representative in your country, and
> take action to prevent such a thing to happen. We cannot accept this
> killing because the people in the jungle are harmless. They are so
> miserable.
>
> After all, we are all human beings.
>
> I am so sad today after receiving this article.
>
>
> Kao-Ly Yang, Ph.D. Anthropology
> Expert in Hmong studies
> Hmong History Timeline:
> http://www.geocities.com/kaoly_y/HistoireCultureLanguage/HistoryTimeli
> neHmong.html
>
> __
> http://presszoom.com:80/story_144108.html
>
> The Lao Peoples Democractic Republic (LPDR) regime, in cooperation
> with the Socialist Republic of Vietnam (SRV), have issued a new order
> and drafted a comprehensive strategy to mount a major military
> offensive to exterminate thousands of Hmong in hiding in the jungles
> and mountains of Laos, including thousands of unarmed women and
> children.
>
> (PressZoom) - The Lao Peoples Democractic Republic ( LPDR ) regime,
> in cooperation with the Socialist Republic of Vietnam ( SRV ), has
> issued a new order and drafted a comprehensive strategy to mount a
> major military offensive to exterminate thousands of Hmong in hiding
> in the jungles and mountains of Laos. The offensive will involve
> special battalions of troops and special operations commandos from
> Vietnam who are now being deployed to the closed military zones of
> operation. The reported object is to eliminate and exterminate some
> 15, 000 Lao Hmong in hiding in key areas of Laos by the end of April
> 2008. Hmong in Laos are bracing for these new anticipated attacks by
> Laos and Vietnam which are expected to be massive and ruthless.
>
> "Reliable sources from inside Laos have stated that on March 23,
> 2008, the LPDR regime under the direction of President Choummaly
> Sayasone and Prime Minister Bouasone Bouphavanh as well as Deputy
> Prime Minister and Defense Minister Douangchay Phichit, who is also a
> Member of the Politburo and Major General Asang Laoly ordered the
> implementation of a comprehensive and deadly plan to intensify and
> expand military operations to attack and kill thousands of dissident
> unarmed Hmong civilians and opposition members in-hiding by the end
> of April 2008, " stated Philip Smith, Executive Director of the Center
> for Public Policy Analysis in Washington, D.C. "These new and ominous
> military actions, in cooperation with senior generals in Vietnam's
> Ministry of Defense, against unarmed civilians and the continued use
> of food as a weapon to kill thousands of unarmed Lao-Hmong people
> constitutes a clear violations of international law and rises to the
> level of war crimes and crimes against humanity to which these
> individual military leaders in Laos and Vietnam will need to be held
> accountable and brought to trial, especially General Douangchay
> Phichit, " Smith concluded.
> http://www.asiapacific.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGASA260042004?
> open&of=ENG-LAO
> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/17/world/asia/17laos.html
>
> Amnesty International has issued numerous reports about war crimes in
> Laos, including a March 2007 report about the Lao military's attacks
> and mass starvation Hmong civilians and dissident and opposition
> groups. Independent humanitarian and human rights organizations as
> well as journalists including Doctors Without Borders ( MSF ), the
> New York Times, Time magazine ( Asia-Edition ), Le Monde, Al Jazeera
> and others have documented the attacks by the Lao military on Laotian
> and Hmong civilians, dissident and opposition groups in Laos.
> http://www.english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/3901AC50-813C-409F-8F57-
> BEDF4930C28D.htm
> http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/ASA26/003/2007
>
> "The Lao Peoples Army ( LPA ) is reportedly mobilizing significant
> battalions of fresh combat troops in key areas of Laos, at the
> direction and command of PAVN units from Vietnam, and with the
> support of vintage, Soviet built MI-8 helicopter gunships equipped
> with rocket launchers and machine guns to launch ethnic cleansing
> operations and military attacks against thousands of unarmed Lao
> Hmong civilians at Phou Da Phao, Phou Bia Mountain area and
> elsewhere, " Smith stated. "Two MI-8 helicopter gunships were
> reportedly deployed again by the Lao military for several weeks to
> attack and kill the Lao and Hmong people seeking refuge and sanctuary
> in the Phou Da Phao area, " Smith continued.
>
> "We condemn this new military campaign, and these cruel attacks,
> atrocities and war crimes by the Lao military and Vietnam on unarmed
> Hmong in Laos; we urge the international community to provide
> emergency intervention to seek to draw attention to this crisis and
> to stop this new round of upcoming military attacks which we
> understand will me massive in terms of the troop levels and the
> intervention of Vietnam to assist the Lao regime's efforts to wipe
> out and exterminate some 15, 000 Hmong civilians in Laos, " stated
> Vaughn Vang, Executive Director of the Lao Human Rights
> Council.http://www.presszoom.com/print_story_143358.html
>
> Mr. Tong Pao Yang and Mr. Nou Mang Chang issued the following
> statement and joint appeal from inside Laos to the international
> community:
>
> "It is important to note, that the LPDR regime has reportedly
> suspended Colonel Kham Xeng Yang, a communist officer in the Lao
> Peoples Army ( LPA ) because he failed to complete the brutal order
> issued by the Lao Minister of Defense Lao Deputy Prime Minister &
> Defense Minister Douangchay Phichit, who is also Member of the
> Politburo, to kill or capture all Lao-Hmong civilians and dissident
> Hmong groups in-hiding in key areas inside Laos. The Lao regime is
> using Hmong soldiers to kill and commit war crimes against their
> fellow Hmong people, which they are sometimes not capable of doing.
> These are terrible crimes against humanity being committed by the
> military of Laos and Vietnam now against thousands of unarmed Hmong
> civilians that are surrounded and under attack. "
>
> "Most importantly, however, on behalf of many thousands of Hmong
> groups now hiding from ongoing LPDR military attacks in Laos, we are
> appealing to the United States, U.S., U.S. Congress, United Nation,
> European Unions, ASEAN and the international community, to demand the
> Lao PDR regime to stop its current military offensive and ongoing
> attack helicopter and air force bombing. Major military units, and
> fresh battalions of troops, of the Lao military and Socialist
> Vietnam are now mobilizing for a new, upcoming planned ground
> offensive which seeks to massacre all Hmong in hiding groups which
> our information indicates will likely begin in early April of this
> year. We are innocent civilians, women and children and we do not
> want to be killed or captured by the Lao PDR government troops. All
> unarmed Hmong civilians, especially women and children have the right
> to life, liberty and the rights for a life free from persecution,
> torture and brutal human rights abuses currently be directed against
> our Lao and Hmong people by the communist regime of Laos and Vietnam."
>
> Tong Pao Yang and Nou Mang Chang continued their statement from
> inside Laos and joint appeal to the international community:
>
> "Our information and field intelligence sources indicate that they
> have appointed Colonel Boa SaVan as one of the key commanders of the
> Lao PDR government to carry out this deadly operation which includes
> plans to continue to encircle, trap, kill and starve to death
> thousands of Laotian and Hmong civilians. The Lao PDR government has
> given the order to Colonel Boa SaVan's troops to slaughter or capture
> all remaining Hmong groups in hiding by the end of April 2008.
> Civilians will not be spared. A food is being used as a weapon to
> kill and starve our people who only seek to live in peace and
> freedom."
>
> Mr. Tong Pao Yang and Mr. Nou Mang Chang concluded:
>
> "The LPDR's Colonel Boa SaVan has already worked to order new air
> attacks and the deployment of ground troops in Xieng Khouang Province
> to prepare for new attacks on Lao-Hmong groups in Phou Da Phao, Phou
> Bia and in Vang Vieng province. His military trucks have begun
> carrying his troops at night to the locations where Hmong groups in
> hiding are located and are standing by to launch fresh military
> attacks against these innocent Hmong groups in hiding in Vang Vieng
> Province. Large numbers of troops from Vietnam are also being
> deployed now to attack and kill our people."
>
> In response to these developments, Vaughn Vang, Director, of the Lao
> Human Rights Council made the following four point statement:
>
> "We the Lao Human Rights Council propose the following four points
> to end the genocide, ethnic cleansing war, human rights violation,
> and mass starvation directed against some 15, 000 Lao-Hmong civilians
> now hiding from attack and persecution in key jungle and mountain
> areas in Laos:
>
> • We urgently appeal to the United States, United Nations, the
> world community, European Union, ASEAN and international human rights
> and humanitarian organizations, to investigate and stop the communist
> Laos government's ethnic cleansing war, genocide, oppression and
> human rights violations, and campaign of mass starvation directed
> against dissident Lao and Hmong civilians and religious and minority
> opposition groups; and to press the LPDR regime to immediately end
> all military attacks from ground and air troops against the
> innocent, unarmed Hmong civilians, women, and children in-hiding in
> the jungle of Laos.
>
> • We urgently appeal to the United States, United Nations High
> Commission for Human Rights and the international community,
> International Human Rights Commission ( independent commission ) and
> other international human rights organizations to investigate and
> stop the ethnic cleansing war, human rights violation, and genocide,
> against the Lao-Hmong in-hiding in the jungle of Laos;
>
> • We urgently appeal to the United States, United Nations, the
> International Red Cross and international relief agencies to send
> food, and medical supplies, and to provide other basic human needs to
> the 15, 000 Hmong who are being attacked daily and facing mass
> starvation, ethnic cleansing war and human rights violations against
> them in the jungle of Laos;
>
> • Finally, we urgently appeal to the United States, United
> Nation, and ASEAN Nations to bring true peace, democracy, human
> rights, stability and national reconciliation to Laos and the Lao-
> Hmong dissident and opposition groups who seek an open and free
> society."
>
> Vaughn Vang continued : "Some 15, 000 Hmong civilians, women and
> children, trapped and surrounded by Lao and Vietnamese military units
> that seek to kill them are now urgently appealing to the United
> States, U.S. Congress, United Nations, and the international
> community to intervene in an emergency manner to save their lives.
> Without emergency intervention, the Hmong in-hiding in the jungle of
> Laos will continue to be starved to death, killed and subjected to
> atrocities, torture and war crimes by the Lao PDR government regimes
> by the end of April 2008."
>
> "This cry for help continues to come from the mountains and jungles
> of Laos due to the LPDR regime and Vietnam's continued brutal
> persecution and killing of freedom-loving Laotian and Hmong people.
> Your immediately attention to the desperate lives of these innocent,
> unarmed Hmong civilians, women, and children in-hiding is demanded
> and necessary to give them the life, liberty and human rights they
> all, as human beings, deserve, " Vaughn Vang, said in conclusion.
>
> Contact: Ms. Anna Jones
>
> Center for Public Policy Analysis
> 2020 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
> No. #212
> Washington, D.C. USA 20006
>
> Tele. ( 202 )543-1444
> Fax ( 202 )207-9871
>
> info@centerforpublicpolicyanalysis.org
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
concernant ton 2. je suis pas sûr que les personnes répètent docilement les slogans de la rue de solférino, je les vois + inquiet des actions de leur président
son ami hortefeux veut réhabiliter vichy, je te rappelle que cette république n'est pas reconnu constitutionnellement...
tu vis où ?
tu me fais penser aux "avec" portugais
vale et bonne continuaton au pays du samedi soir
il n'y a pas de portugais en corse ?
les personnes qui avaient quitté le portugal sous salazar pour venir par exemple, en france, sont appelés "avec" par leur propre concitoyens qui estiment qu'ils ont les 2, ie le portugal et la france, le pouvoir d'achat en france etc ... et la famille restée au portugal donc un toit etc... ainsi la possibilité de faire les allers - retours
bon, c'est vrai que des a/r entre le pays du samedi soir et la patrie de hugo c + difficile, il n'empêche que je n'arrive pas à comprendre les critiques lorsque l'on ne vit pas dans le pays, c'est comme si j'apportais mon grain de sel sur la façon de vivre ou telle poilitique en thailande, comme je n'y vis pas je m'abstiens
c'est certainement le "saudade" qui a fait parler notre ami de cette façon 😉
à bientôt
Mais dans tes propos !
Si tout n'est pas idéal en France, il y a des gens qui peuvent dire aux médias ce qu'ils pensent des conditions de rétention des immigrés, il y a même des tribunaux qui donnent tort à la police et qui refusent une conduite à la frontière.
En France, il y a même des manifestations en faveur des sans-papiers ( on imagine çà en Thailande😇)
En France, il y a des travailleurs sans-papiers qui font grève pour être régulariser...avec le soutien du syndicat patronal des hôteliers-restaurateurs ( on imagine çà en Thailande 😇)
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
jsuis bien d'accord (enfin un post plein de fraicheur) mais on peut aussi remplacer thailande par tous les pays où il n'y a pas de democratie...
sinon pour les Hmongs/Miao lire l'article wikipedia qui est en français d'une et de 2 montre bien la complexité de leur histoire, comme de toutes les histoires politiques (les Hmongs sont originaires de chine où ils étaient maltraités, aussi)
"La seule certitude sur l'origine des Hmong est qu'ils ont occupé, avec d'autres ethnies miao, les bassins du fleuve Huang He avant même l'arrivée des premiers Chinois sur ce territoire, comme ces derniers le signalent dans leurs annales. Malgré les hypothèses émises par les ethnologues anglophones ou les missionnaires français, les seuls mouvements migratoires miao connus et attestés sont ceux signalés par les Chinois. Le reste n’est que supposition.D’abord établis vers le centre de la Chine, les Miao ont été peu à peu repoussés par les Chinois vers le sud du pays parce qu’ils n’ont jamais accepté la sinisation malgré plusieurs millénaires de vie en contact avec leurs voisins."
tu l'as vu où l'éxagération ?
Mais dans tes propos !
Si tout n'est pas idéal en France, il y a des gens qui peuvent dire aux médias ce qu'ils pensent des conditions de rétention des immigrés, il y a même des tribunaux qui donnent tort à la police et qui refusent une conduite à la frontière.
En France, il y a même des manifestations en faveur des sans-papiers ( on imagine çà en Thailande😇)
En France, il y a des travailleurs sans-papiers qui font grève pour être régulariser...avec le soutien du syndicat patronal des hôteliers-restaurateurs ( on imagine çà en Thailande 😇)
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Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices?
Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis?
What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc.
Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it?
Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like?
We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days.
I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome!
I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips:
Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred.
PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront).
Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
