enfin, nous avions rompu, et je me suis retrouvé dans une situation si mauvaise sans aucun statut ni argent. Maintenant, je veux rentrer chez moi et heureusement j'ai pu payer mes factures après une longue et pénible lutte. la question qui me stresse beaucoup est: que sont-ils les risques à l'aéroport de helsinki , la police des frontières douane...? sachant que mon retour est absolument de tout mon plein gré et mon entrée est bien légale. J'ai vraiment peur, je suis une personne bien éduqué et je ne suis pas habitué à ces problèmes. aidez moi svp !!
Titre de séjour finlandais expiré: rentrer chez moi en Tunisie?
by Wael4070
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Je vous écris parce que je commence à perdre tout espoir, et j'espère sincèrement que l'aide d'urgence.
je suis arrivé en Finlande il ya un an, en tant que visiteur, en provenance de la France où j'étais étudiant étranger.
ma visite etait pour le tourisme, je devais rester 15 jours. pendant ce moment-là, j'ai fait connaissance avec une fille finlandais, nous nous aimions, alors elle m'a demandé de rester, et elle prendra soin du reste (elle a loué un appartement , aller demander les démarches administratives)
enfin, nous avions rompu, et je me suis retrouvé dans une situation si mauvaise sans aucun statut ni argent. Maintenant, je veux rentrer chez moi et heureusement j'ai pu payer mes factures après une longue et pénible lutte. la question qui me stresse beaucoup est: que sont-ils les risques à l'aéroport de helsinki , la police des frontières douane...? sachant que mon retour est absolument de tout mon plein gré et mon entrée est bien légale. J'ai vraiment peur, je suis une personne bien éduqué et je ne suis pas habitué à ces problèmes. aidez moi svp !!
enfin, nous avions rompu, et je me suis retrouvé dans une situation si mauvaise sans aucun statut ni argent. Maintenant, je veux rentrer chez moi et heureusement j'ai pu payer mes factures après une longue et pénible lutte. la question qui me stresse beaucoup est: que sont-ils les risques à l'aéroport de helsinki , la police des frontières douane...? sachant que mon retour est absolument de tout mon plein gré et mon entrée est bien légale. J'ai vraiment peur, je suis une personne bien éduqué et je ne suis pas habitué à ces problèmes. aidez moi svp !!
je ne peux pas vous aider dans ce cas précis, car je ne connais pas les lois finlandaises, mais à l'avenir, sachez que c'est une très mauvaise idée de se mettre en marge des lois du pays où l'on est, quelles que soient les circonstances. Approchez le consulat français le plus proche, ils seront capables de vous renseigner.
je suis arrivé en Finlande il ya un an, en tant que visiteur, en provenance de la France où j'étais étudiant étranger.... Maintenant, je veux rentrer chez moi.
De quelle nationalité es-tu ? Tu étudiais en France avec une autorisation de séjour ?... est-elle toujours valide ? Lorsque tu dis : "je veux rentrer chez moi"... est-ce en France, ou dans ton pays d'origine ?
Apporter ces précisions permettrait peut-être des réponses...
De quelle nationalité es-tu ? Tu étudiais en France avec une autorisation de séjour ?... est-elle toujours valide ? Lorsque tu dis : "je veux rentrer chez moi"... est-ce en France, ou dans ton pays d'origine ?
Apporter ces précisions permettrait peut-être des réponses...
Tu ne peux donc pas "rentrer" en France...
Il faudrait peut-être prendre contact rapidement avec un consulat Tunisien.
évidemment je ne veux pas revenir en France, mes billets sont pour la Tunisie.
Il n'y avait rien d'évident dans la demande initiale, telle que tu l'as exposée.
Il n'y avait rien d'évident dans la demande initiale, telle que tu l'as exposée.
Titre de séjour finlandais expiré
Salut, Avec un titre de séjour finlandais périmé, il y aura quelques questions posées par la police de l'aéroport et puis c'est tout. Mais ce titre de séjour finlandais a été délivré sur quelle base, pour études, pour travail, concubinage...?
Salut, Avec un titre de séjour finlandais périmé, il y aura quelques questions posées par la police de l'aéroport et puis c'est tout. Mais ce titre de séjour finlandais a été délivré sur quelle base, pour études, pour travail, concubinage...?
Cordialement
Fayd
Bonjour
Ils seront bien trop contents que tu quittes délibérément le territoire ! Pour le tampon, peut importe (selon moi) une fois rentré en Tunisie, tu demanderas un autre passeport avec motif de perte par ex. Par contre, le fait que la France ne t'a pas "vu" rentrer, il y a des chances que la prochaine demande de visa, on te posera quelques questions, et il y aura un refus possible...
LILI
Ils seront bien trop contents que tu quittes délibérément le territoire ! Pour le tampon, peut importe (selon moi) une fois rentré en Tunisie, tu demanderas un autre passeport avec motif de perte par ex. Par contre, le fait que la France ne t'a pas "vu" rentrer, il y a des chances que la prochaine demande de visa, on te posera quelques questions, et il y aura un refus possible...
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
j'ai peur qu'ils me mettent le tampon rouge sur mon passeport et je serais banni et interdit de voyager
Le problème, ce n'est pas le tampon rouge sur le passeport, car ce dernier peut être facilement remplacé. le gros problème, c'est d'être signalé sur la base de données du SIS, et si c'est le cas, c'est le refus de visa pour 5 ans. Essayer d'être simple et direct dans les réponses à leurs questions, sans faux-fuyants, et bonne chance. Maintenant le visa est accordé avec un délai de 5 jours, avant, c'était 24 H, et tout ça c'est pour leur permettre de consulter cette base de données, ainsi que tous les services visas de l'espace Schengen.
Le problème, ce n'est pas le tampon rouge sur le passeport, car ce dernier peut être facilement remplacé. le gros problème, c'est d'être signalé sur la base de données du SIS, et si c'est le cas, c'est le refus de visa pour 5 ans. Essayer d'être simple et direct dans les réponses à leurs questions, sans faux-fuyants, et bonne chance. Maintenant le visa est accordé avec un délai de 5 jours, avant, c'était 24 H, et tout ça c'est pour leur permettre de consulter cette base de données, ainsi que tous les services visas de l'espace Schengen.
Cordialement
Fayd
évidemment je ne veux pas revenir en France, mes billets sont pour la Tunisie. mon seul soucis est le passage à l'aéroport de Helsinki
Pourquoi retiendraient-ils qqn qui réside illégalement dans leur pays et qui veut rentrer chez lui ?
Bon évidemment, faut pas t'attendre à des félicitations non plus... 🤪
Pourquoi retiendraient-ils qqn qui réside illégalement dans leur pays et qui veut rentrer chez lui ?
Bon évidemment, faut pas t'attendre à des félicitations non plus... 🤪
Faby
Bon courage.
C'est pas simple, mais vous devriez vous en sortir sans trop de casse.
Vous quittez volontairement la Finlande pour rejoindre votre pays.
OK, vous avez dépassé le temps du visa temporaire, mais si vous ne laissez pas de dettes et que vous n'êtes pas fiché sur un registre de "personnes recherchées", on ne peut pas vous faire grand chose.
Ils ne vont pas vous garder plus longtemps, pour devoir ensuite vous payer un billet retour...
Par contre présentez vous en avance à l'aéroport et jouer "cartes sur table".
SVP tenez nous au courant des votre retour en Tunisie.
respect réciproque...
Bonjour, et merci à vous tous pour les suggestions et les mots encourageants
je suis chez moi maintenant à Sousse, ce n'était pas évident en effet, ils m'ont posé beaucoup de questions.ce qui m'a amené à imaginer que je suis foutu, j'avais tellement peur et j'avais le coeur qui battait la chamade. ils m'ont vraiment harcelé avec tout genre de questions tordues, ils m'ont ensuite laisser attendre dans une cellule. apparemment oui ils ont vérité si j'ai commis une infractions. puis m'ont fait signé des papiers (amende), finalement ils m'ont lâché pour rattraper mon vol.
me voilà chez moi et je suis content.
une mésaventure à ne pas récommencer
De tomber amoureux en soit n est pas un delit...m quand on est etranger...ce qui l est c est d etre en situation de sejour irreguliere pdt 6 mois.
D ou les multiples questions posées par les policiers lors de votre départ.
J espere pour vous que vous vous réadapterez facilement a la vie tunisienne car l octroi d un nouveay visa Schengen risque d etre problematique
, ,, ce n'était pas évident en effet, ils m'ont posé beaucoup de questions.ce qui m'a amené à imaginer que je suis foutu, j'avais tellement peur et j'avais le coeur qui battait la chamade. ils m'ont vraiment harcelé avec tout genre de questions tordues...,
Permets-moi de sourire à la lecture de ton message... tu as pu rester 11 mois et demi en situation illégale en Finlande, sans que ça ne t'inquiète la moindre, et là tu étais sois disant mort de trouille parce qu'on te posait des questions, alors que tu étais sur le point de rentrer chez toi ?!? 🤪
Permets-moi de sourire à la lecture de ton message... tu as pu rester 11 mois et demi en situation illégale en Finlande, sans que ça ne t'inquiète la moindre, et là tu étais sois disant mort de trouille parce qu'on te posait des questions, alors que tu étais sur le point de rentrer chez toi ?!? 🤪
Faby
Non il avait obtenu un titre de sejour finlandais de 6 mois lié a son concubinage.
C est a la suite de sa rupture sentimentale que sa situation est devenue problematique.
Pas la peine d en rajouter...
Soit.
Cela laisse tout de même 6 mois en situation illégale, où il risquait à tout moment de se faire attrapper et expulser sur le champ.
Cela laisse tout de même 6 mois en situation illégale, où il risquait à tout moment de se faire attrapper et expulser sur le champ.
Faby
Bonjour Fayd,
J'ai suivi avec interêt les différentes interventions concernant le "problème" rencontré par Wael. J'avoue ne pas comprendre ( pure curiosité intellectuelle) comment a-t-il pu obtenir un visa de concubinage en Finlande puisqu'il possédait déjà un visa étudiant en France!
J'ai suivi avec interêt les différentes interventions concernant le "problème" rencontré par Wael. J'avoue ne pas comprendre ( pure curiosité intellectuelle) comment a-t-il pu obtenir un visa de concubinage en Finlande puisqu'il possédait déjà un visa étudiant en France!
bonjour Casette,
ils m'ont attribué un titre de séjour "temporaire et conditionnel" en attendant les démarches administratives.
bien sur quand on s'est séparé, la condition n'y est plus.
en tout cas, le plus important c'est que je suis chez moi, et je n'étais pas "expulsé" parce que c'est moi qui a décidé de rentrer et qui a payé les billets.
Soit.
Cela laisse tout de même 6 mois en situation illégale, où il risquait à tout moment de se faire attrapper et expulser sur le champ.
Notre ami en avzit tout a fait conscience...rien ne sert de rabacher. Il est rentré de lui m dans son pays.
Cela laisse tout de même 6 mois en situation illégale, où il risquait à tout moment de se faire attrapper et expulser sur le champ.
Notre ami en avzit tout a fait conscience...rien ne sert de rabacher. Il est rentré de lui m dans son pays.
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I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie





