Tourisme saharien
by Issendilene
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
En dépit des efforts fournis ici et là, le tourisme saharien reste méconnu de bon nombre de personne. Le monde des cités modernes semble bel et bien déterminer le choix des touristes beaucoup plus séduits par l'attractivité des cités modernes. Or, l'étendu de l'espace saharien, son immensité, ses caractéristiques morpho géologiques et autres choses relevant parfois du temps de la préhistoire méritent toute notre attention ...
issendilene
Le sahara algerien est une destination tres tentante. Un ami y est parti plusieurs annees de suite avec sa famille, en cc. Dans les annees 80.
Mais le souci maintenant est plutot dans l incertitude quant a la securite et aussi le manque de structures touristiques.
J ai essaye de m organiser un parcours en Algerie. Mais ca me revient trop cher.
Dommage tout ca.
Nous sommes d'accord .
Vous vous présentez comme charge de tourisme en Algerie , j'en profite pour vous poser quelques questions de bases pour preparer un voyage , voyage dont je rêve depuis longtemps .
1) Peut on se deplacer seul , sans guide . 2) Moyenne des prix des hébergements.? 3) qu'elles sont les possibilités et les prix de location de voiture . 4) Une femme seule seras t'elle bien accueillie .
Merci d'avance pour vos renseignements concernant cette region .
,
Vous vous présentez comme charge de tourisme en Algerie , j'en profite pour vous poser quelques questions de bases pour preparer un voyage , voyage dont je rêve depuis longtemps .
1) Peut on se deplacer seul , sans guide . 2) Moyenne des prix des hébergements.? 3) qu'elles sont les possibilités et les prix de location de voiture . 4) Une femme seule seras t'elle bien accueillie .
Merci d'avance pour vos renseignements concernant cette region .
,
Que se vuelva la tortilla
Bonne idee ces questions.🙂
De l'Algérie je ne connais que lä petite Kabylie , et encore , au début des années 1970 .
Ensuite je n'ai pas pu y aller , mais l'envie reste intacte .
Donc , puisque de monsieur semble avoir des compétences professionnelles peut être auras t'on quelques reponses tres précises en ce qui concerne l'actualité du voyage saharien , je précise bien en Algérie , parce que le Sahara c'est vaste ....
Que se vuelva la tortilla
ah, tu as eu la chance d'aller en petite KABILYE, je repousse tout le temps ce pèlerinage que je rêve de faire... si on pouvait prendre le visa à l'aéroport, je crois que je sauterais dans un avion tout de suite..
Un jour peut être..
Oui, espérons que ce monsieur va pouvoir nous aider, dans le vrai sens du terme.
Merci encore d'avoir suggéré cette discussion à toi et à Cambrousse
bonne journée les filles🙂
Bonjour,
"J ai essaye de m organiser un parcours en Algerie. Mais ca me revient trop cher."
J'ai fait les comptes de mon voyage de cette année aux vacances de la Toussaint : 650 € par personne, tout compris visa, avion, et 10 jours sur place à Oran, Béchar, Taghit, Béni Abbès. Ca me parait très raisonnable comme prix.
"J ai essaye de m organiser un parcours en Algerie. Mais ca me revient trop cher."
J'ai fait les comptes de mon voyage de cette année aux vacances de la Toussaint : 650 € par personne, tout compris visa, avion, et 10 jours sur place à Oran, Béchar, Taghit, Béni Abbès. Ca me parait très raisonnable comme prix.
Bernard
Bonjour,
"je voudrais aussi partir sur les traces de ma famille et passer par Biskra.."
Je l'ai fait il y a 3 ans, j'ai pu revoir la maison où j'avais habité à Biskra, et à nouveau visiter tous les alentours, Ferme Dufourg, Tolga, Sidi Okba, Ghoufi, Timgad, El Kantara, et aussi Constantine par où je suis arrivé en avion.
"je voudrais aussi partir sur les traces de ma famille et passer par Biskra.."
Je l'ai fait il y a 3 ans, j'ai pu revoir la maison où j'avais habité à Biskra, et à nouveau visiter tous les alentours, Ferme Dufourg, Tolga, Sidi Okba, Ghoufi, Timgad, El Kantara, et aussi Constantine par où je suis arrivé en avion.
Bernard
Bonjour,
"1) Peut on se deplacer seul, sans guide."
Oui. J'ai utilisé le train, de Constantine à Biskra et de Oran à Béchar, sans guide. Dans Constantine, dans Biskra, dans Oran, dans Taghit, je me suis promené à pied, ou en taxi, ou en tram, ou en bus, sans guide.
"2) Moyenne des prix des hébergements.?"
Très variable selon le confort qu'on veut. Les grands hôtels dont on trouve les coordonnées le plus facilement sur Internet sont aux alentours de 100 € la nuit, ce que je trouve très cher. On en trouve quelques-uns aux alentours de 50 €. A Biskra, j'avais trouvé à 21 € la chambre pour 2 personnes avec petit-déjeuner il y a 3 ans. A Oran, j'ai trouvé cette année à 14 € la chambre pour 2 personnes avec petit-déjeuner.
"3) qu'elles sont les possibilités et les prix de location de voiture."
Je ne peux pas répondre, je n'ai pas utilisé.
"4) Une femme seule seras t'elle bien accueillie."
Une de mes filles y est allée 3 fois, 1 autre de mes filles y est allée 1 fois, elles ont toutes les 2 été très contentes de leurs séjours (je dis mes filles, mais ce sont des adultes, elles ont 29 ans).
"1) Peut on se deplacer seul, sans guide."
Oui. J'ai utilisé le train, de Constantine à Biskra et de Oran à Béchar, sans guide. Dans Constantine, dans Biskra, dans Oran, dans Taghit, je me suis promené à pied, ou en taxi, ou en tram, ou en bus, sans guide.
"2) Moyenne des prix des hébergements.?"
Très variable selon le confort qu'on veut. Les grands hôtels dont on trouve les coordonnées le plus facilement sur Internet sont aux alentours de 100 € la nuit, ce que je trouve très cher. On en trouve quelques-uns aux alentours de 50 €. A Biskra, j'avais trouvé à 21 € la chambre pour 2 personnes avec petit-déjeuner il y a 3 ans. A Oran, j'ai trouvé cette année à 14 € la chambre pour 2 personnes avec petit-déjeuner.
"3) qu'elles sont les possibilités et les prix de location de voiture."
Je ne peux pas répondre, je n'ai pas utilisé.
"4) Une femme seule seras t'elle bien accueillie."
Une de mes filles y est allée 3 fois, 1 autre de mes filles y est allée 1 fois, elles ont toutes les 2 été très contentes de leurs séjours (je dis mes filles, mais ce sont des adultes, elles ont 29 ans).
Bernard
Bonjour,
Pour aller à Biskra, j'ai pris l'avion jusqu'à Constantine. J'avais fait une réservation d'hôtel à Constantine qui m'a servi pour obtenir le visa (1 nuit le jour de mon arrivée, 1 nuit la veille de mon départ, et c'est tout à Constantine). A Biskra, je suis allé à l'hôtel des Zibans. C'est un hôtel qui n'a pas (ou n'avait pas) de site Internet, et pas pratique pour faire directement le justificatif pour le visa, la réservation est juste confirmée par un mail classique. Je pense que réserver un hôtel dans la ville d'arrivée en avion, Alger ou Constantine, est plus sûr pour obtenir le visa sans discussion au consulat.
Pour aller à Biskra, j'ai pris l'avion jusqu'à Constantine. J'avais fait une réservation d'hôtel à Constantine qui m'a servi pour obtenir le visa (1 nuit le jour de mon arrivée, 1 nuit la veille de mon départ, et c'est tout à Constantine). A Biskra, je suis allé à l'hôtel des Zibans. C'est un hôtel qui n'a pas (ou n'avait pas) de site Internet, et pas pratique pour faire directement le justificatif pour le visa, la réservation est juste confirmée par un mail classique. Je pense que réserver un hôtel dans la ville d'arrivée en avion, Alger ou Constantine, est plus sûr pour obtenir le visa sans discussion au consulat.
Bernard
Vous savez les budgets sont bien differents d une personne a une autre.
Au Maroc je depense entre 25 et 30 euros/jour + avion.
En Europe je passe a 40-50 euros/jour maxi. Mais sur des periodes bien plus courtes que les sejours Maroc ou Afrique noire.
Donc l Algerie je n ai pas reussi a faire entrer dans l enveloppe.🙁
Merci du partage
Bonsoir,
"Vous savez les budgets sont bien differents d une personne a une autre."
Ca, je le sais vraiment. Pendant une longue période, je devais aussi faire très attention au choix de mes voyages pour qu'ils restent compatibles avec mes possibilités.
"Au Maroc je depense entre 25 et 30 euros/jour + avion."
Merci pour cette information, il faudra que j'essaie d'en profiter aussi, j'ai encore plein de choses à voir au Maroc, je n'y suis allé qu'une seule fois. Comme j'y suis allé avec une agence, ça m'a coûté beaucoup plus cher que ça. La prochaine fois c'est sûr que je prendrais plus de temps pour organiser moi-même, et faire un séjour qui me donnera moins l'impression d'enrichir des intermédiaires au détriment des locaux.
"Vous savez les budgets sont bien differents d une personne a une autre."
Ca, je le sais vraiment. Pendant une longue période, je devais aussi faire très attention au choix de mes voyages pour qu'ils restent compatibles avec mes possibilités.
"Au Maroc je depense entre 25 et 30 euros/jour + avion."
Merci pour cette information, il faudra que j'essaie d'en profiter aussi, j'ai encore plein de choses à voir au Maroc, je n'y suis allé qu'une seule fois. Comme j'y suis allé avec une agence, ça m'a coûté beaucoup plus cher que ça. La prochaine fois c'est sûr que je prendrais plus de temps pour organiser moi-même, et faire un séjour qui me donnera moins l'impression d'enrichir des intermédiaires au détriment des locaux.
Bernard
Au Maroc ce montant couvre hebergements simples, deplacements en bus, grands taxis et petits taxis et alimentation
En afrique de l ouest c est moins que cela sauf au Senegal ou il faut compter de 30 a 35 euros minimum.
Finalement mon luxe est de pouvoir partir 🙂
Finalement mon luxe est de pouvoir partir 🙂
Bonjour,
Sur que le"Sud" Algérien est très beau.
Perso, j'y suis allé 2 fois:
Dans le massif du Hoggar en 93 donc, juste avant que........
Puis...... En 2004 dans les Tassilis du Hoggar, juste après que .....
Dans les 2 cas au départ de Tam'
-C'était en 'Tout il est organisé"
-Des gens adorables et compétents (Quoique Ahmed Z...A est assez "spécial" !!).
-Paysages Somptueux, avec mention "spéciale" pour les Tassilis.
-Tam ? Nous on adore !!!!!
Nous aurions aimé aller du côté de Djanet, pas eu le temps avant que.......
Alors maintenant, le Grand Sud Algérien ??
Dommage pour les gens de Tam' pour qui le tourisme était une source non négligeable de revenu.
A + ?
Razul
Salut
Tam c' est Tamanrasset?
Bonjour,
Ben oui!' c'est comme MRK, Zazate, ou Bilbo , Paname ou Big-Apple!
Ce n'est pas un truc de "touriste" mais le nom pour"local" branché. ces gens là ne manquant pas d'humour, ils disait eux mêmes, parlant des "T O "pionniers":
"Akar-Akar" , toujours en retard!
"Meiroman'" , toujours le drame!
Mais à Tam', des gens vraiment sympas.
Razul
Nous sommes d'accord .
Vous vous présentez comme charge de tourisme en Algerie , j'en profite pour vous poser quelques questions de bases pour preparer un voyage , voyage dont je rêve depuis longtemps .
1) Peut on se deplacer seul , sans guide . 2) Moyenne des prix des hébergements.? 3) qu'elles sont les possibilités et les prix de location de voiture . 4) Une femme seule seras t'elle bien accueillie .
Merci d'avance pour vos renseignements concernant cette region .
,
Bonjour hanna
1) pour y aller pas besoin d un guide. Mais pour visiter le hoggar et le tassili un peut plus loin le guide est quasi indispensable. Meme s il faut avoir un guide pour un groupe de 3 ou 4 personne sa coutera que dalle donc...
2) l hébergement est relativement pas cher par rapport au reste du pays.
3) la location n est pas une bonne affaire parce qu on peut s inscrire pour l expedition dans une agence et le transport sera inclus. Nul besoin de s'inquiéter.
4) biensur on vous acceillera chaleresement la population commance peut a peut a s habituer au touristes. J'ais du boulot a la ville de tamenrasset jusqu a aout. Et je compte aller visiter le hoggar et le tassili en jours de repos.Vous etes les bienvenues dans notre pays et Bon courage.
Vous vous présentez comme charge de tourisme en Algerie , j'en profite pour vous poser quelques questions de bases pour preparer un voyage , voyage dont je rêve depuis longtemps .
1) Peut on se deplacer seul , sans guide . 2) Moyenne des prix des hébergements.? 3) qu'elles sont les possibilités et les prix de location de voiture . 4) Une femme seule seras t'elle bien accueillie .
Merci d'avance pour vos renseignements concernant cette region .
,
Bonjour hanna
1) pour y aller pas besoin d un guide. Mais pour visiter le hoggar et le tassili un peut plus loin le guide est quasi indispensable. Meme s il faut avoir un guide pour un groupe de 3 ou 4 personne sa coutera que dalle donc...
2) l hébergement est relativement pas cher par rapport au reste du pays.
3) la location n est pas une bonne affaire parce qu on peut s inscrire pour l expedition dans une agence et le transport sera inclus. Nul besoin de s'inquiéter.
4) biensur on vous acceillera chaleresement la population commance peut a peut a s habituer au touristes. J'ais du boulot a la ville de tamenrasset jusqu a aout. Et je compte aller visiter le hoggar et le tassili en jours de repos.Vous etes les bienvenues dans notre pays et Bon courage.
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques





