Je suis presque par hasard tombée là-dessus (j'en croyais pas mes mirettes).
Fin des travaux prévue pour 2010 est-il annoncé. Quelqu'un sait où ça en est ?
Oui, bien sûr, ça fait partie des chantiers ; par contre, 2010, je ne crois pas. Un peu plus tard sûrement.
Attention, le lien que tu donnes est faux. C'est là.
Tu sais, les trains turcs, je n'ai jamais trop bien senti la chose... 🤪
D'ailleurs il y a eu l'autre jour pas mal de victimes sur la nouvelle ligne Istanbul-Ankara, un tracto-pelle à traversé la voie 😕.
Tu peux toujours espérer que ce soit fini pour l'été, et voir la presse turque à ce sujet. Je n'y crois guère...
Mais c'est une ligne à grande vitesse Istanbul-Ankara, non ?
Tu crois qu'ils vont mettre un TGV là-bas aussi ? Ou ce sera un train dans le genre Ankara-Kars ?
voir la presse turque à ce sujet
Ne parlant pas un mot de turc, je ne la consulte pas tous les jours😉
Si toi ou quelqu'un d'autre en entend parler ce serait sympa de venir nous informer ici.
Juste une curiosité : tu sais s'ils ont prévu de changer complètement la partie de la ligne déjà existante ? (parce que je regardais l'allure du Tbilisi-Baku, c'est un joli vieux train)
dans les textes que j'ai trouvé, ils parlent de construire la ligne et de la renover mais je ne sais pas a propos des trains en elle-meme.
je pense que les trains dependent de l'ecartement des voies de chemin de fer. la question est-ce que de chaque coté des frontieres ca sera la meme ecartement
à moins qu'ils fassent comme le Talgo qui peut rouler sur les voies de 1435 mm en Suisse + France et 1668 mm en Espagne. Mais c'est peut-être beaucoup demander dans une région du globe où le chemin de fer est encore assez peu développé
il semble que la Turquie et l'Arménie veuille rouvrir la frontière dans les mois qui viennent.
j'avais vu quelques articles à ce sujet début septembre, mais avec des pronostics très mitigés, vu les antécédents conflictuels -- et un peu complexes -- dans la région. Est-ce qu'il y a du nouveau à propos du protocole qui devrait théoriquement être soumis aux parlements turc et arménien courant octobre ?
J'avais aussi lu que même si les questions épineuses de la reconnaissance de génocide de 1915, et du statut du Haut Karabagh, n'étaient pas réglées, l'Arménie proposait d'ouvrir la voie ferrée Kars - Gumry - Tbilisi au trafic international : classé sans suite ou pas ?
La ligne entre Kars et Gyumri existe depuis longtemps (avec changement d'écartement à la frontière), mais utilisée
uniquement en trafic marchandises (si je suis bien informé, corrections bienvenues). Elle fut fermée par les turcs
en représailles suite à l'agression arménienne sur le Haut-Karabagh. Comme c'est la seule liaison au sud de la
mer noire entre le monde "occidental" et l'ancien "soviétistan", les Turcs se sont arrangés avec les Georgiens pour
remplacer cette ligne fermée par une autre, ne passant pas par l'Arménie ; c'est cette fameuse ligne Kars-Tbilissi-Bakou,
qui serait une ligne nouvelle entre Kars et Batumi (avec changement d'écartement à la frontière), ensuite une ligne
existante rénovée entre Batumi et Tbilissi, et enfin la ligne actuelle entre Tbilissi et Bakou. Tout cela rend les Arméniens
très malheureux car ils se sentent éjectés des relations internationales. Et ils récoltent quelques "supporters" dans leur
malheur car l'Europe a refusé de subventionner la construction de cette nouvelle ligne, prétextant qu'il y en a déjà une
(celle qui passe par Gyumri, justement) qui, bien qu'à rénover complètement, ferait parfaitement le travail.
Le problème, c'est que la Turquie a des besoins en infrastructure autrement plus urgents qu'une voie de chemin de fer
entre Kars et Tbilissi, et que donc les moyens ne suivent pas. Surtout après le refus de subventionnement par la CEE.
Résultat, des années après la déclaration d'intention, les travaux de la nouvelle ligne ont à peine commencé. Et en
Georgie, c'est encore pis, à ma connaissance, rien n'a encore été fait. C'est en fait donc plus de la gesticulation politique
qu'autre chose, tant à destination de l'Arménie que de la population turque elle-même, très friande de ce genre.
La "normalisation" (qui n'en est pas une, puisqu'on aura absolument rien réglé) des relations entre la Turquie et l'Arménie
permettra donc au gouvernements de ces deux pays de s'éviter des frais sans perdre la face auprès de leur propre
population, et à la Géorgie de s'éviter la construction d'une voie qui n'est absolument pas dans ses moyens. Si cette
normalisation prend réellement place, la construction de cette nouvelle ligne sera donc très vraisemblablement abandonnée.
Quant à la ligne existante, elle est à refaire sur une bonne partie de son trajet en Turquie, des "patriotes" turcs l'ayant
en partie détruite après sa fermeture par les autorités locales. Si on veut organiser un trafic autre que symbolique, les
installations de channgement d'essieux sont à refaire complètement aussi. Et, hélas pour nous, il n'est à ma connaissance
nullement question de mettre en place sur cette ligne un service de voyageurs (aucun des pays concernés ne possède
le matériel roulant capable de changer d'écartement) direct entre Kars et Erevan. Tout au plus, peut-être, une
desserte avec changement à la frontière, comme par exemple à Saracks à la frontière Irano-Turkmène.
Et pour ce qui est de la ré-ouverture entre Erevan et Jolfa, à la frontière iranienne, là, ça risque de devoir encore attendre bien plus longtemps...
A noter : les présidents turc et arménien viennent de signer aujourd'hui en Suisse le protocole prévoyant la réouverture de leur frontière commune (fermée par la Turquie depuis le conflit du Haut Karabagh), théoriquement dans un délai de 2 mois, sous réserve de ratification par les 2 parlements.
la Turquie a des besoins en infrastructure autrement plus urgents qu'une voie de chemin de fer entre Kars et Tbilissi, et que donc les moyens ne suivent pas. Surtout après le refus de subventionnement par la CEE.
- - ça bouge de l'autre côté : d'après un article paru il y a quelques jours dans Armenews, la réhabilitation de la voie ferrée de Gumri à la frontière turque est en cours, avec des financements russes. La gare d' Akhourian (gare frontière arménienne sur le chemin de Kars) serait techniquement prête à réouvrir fin novembre. Les Russes s'activent en faveur de la signature du protocole d'accord par les parlements turc et arménien. C'est sûrement plus compliqué diplomatiquement que techniquement, mais qui sait...
Formidable ! Voila donc, si tout se passe bien, un des trois bloquages ferroviaires de la région du Caucase en voie d'être
levé. Ne reste donc plus que deux :
- la ligne Moscou-Tbilissi, coupée entre Sokhumi (Abkhasie) et Senaki (Georgie) ;
- la ligne Yerevan-Tabriz, coupée à la frontière Arménie-Natchikevan, au sud du mont Ararat.
Pour le premier, c'est en bonne voie aussi : l"Abkhazie a besoin de l'argent généré par le trafic de transit, et la
Géorgie veut reprendre ses relations commerciales avec la Russie. Pour la deuxième, je suis plus inquiet...
je n'ai pas de nouvel info apparemment pas avant 2012. il semblerait qu'il n y a pas eu encore d'accord definitive pour les wagons qui ont des ecartements differents dans ces pays (info du 7/10/2010)
A priori, rien sur VF là-dessus, rien non plus sur le site de référence - Seat61 pour ne pas le nommer -... Donc... Est-ce que par le plus grand des hasards…
Je prévois un circuit en solo (femme) en Azerbaidjan/Georgie pour mi-octobre de Baku à Tbilissi. - Ces pays sont-ils dangereux en tant que femme seule?…
Nousenvisageons l'année prochaine de retourner à Istanbul, bien sûr en avion et d'Istanbul prendre le train pour Antalya. Certains d'entre vous auraient-ils…
Nous partons en Thailande en février 2026 et nous souhaitons prendre le train de nuit de bangkok à Chiang Mai. Peut-on réserver 2 billets en 1ère classe? je ne…
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I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted.
Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used?
Thanks in advance!
Charlie
I’m planning our very first trip to mainland France in January 2027. There’ll be 2 adults and 2 kids, and we’ll mostly be traveling by train.
Here’s our itinerary:
Paris
Rouen (Normandy)
Lyon
Aix-les-Bains (with day trips to Annecy and Geneva)
Saint-Gervais-les-Bains (with Chamonix and a day in Aosta)
Back to Paris
Do you think this itinerary is well-balanced? Any tips, must-see spots, or mistakes to avoid for a first-time visit?
I’m planning a family trip in a year. Our goal: traveling to China (and maybe Hong Kong) by train.
I’m all set with the route up to eastern Turkey.
However, I’m just starting my research for the rest of the journey—namely the Caucasus (no trains as far as I know, so buses and/or ferries), then Central Asia and China.
So, I’d love to hear any info or tips (general and forward-looking at this stage) about the train route through Central Asia and China to reach the east coast.
I’m particularly interested in details on:
- How far in advance to book / any potential difficulties with reservations
- Whether there are PASS systems (or equivalent) between countries and/or if some tickets allow stopovers, meaning you can hop on and off as you please
- Day trains vs. night trains (the latter option lets you explore cities between two legs of the journey)
- A rough idea of ticket costs
...
A huge thank you to anyone who can share some info or experiences. It’s also a great opportunity to chat about adventure after (way too) many years away from this forum.
I’m planning a trip around Italy using only trains or public transport in October (hoping the weather stays nice!).
I’d obviously like to see some tourist destinations, but I also want to get off the beaten path a bit, and I’m hoping to find some help here? I don’t plan to linger too long in the cities.
Starting in the north, I’d like to visit Lake Como or Lake Orta, pass through the Cinque Terre for some hiking, spend a few days in Naples and Rome, then head down to Sicily.
Hi there,
I’ll be traveling to Japan this coming August. We’ve finalized our itinerary and booked our flight tickets. Now I’m at the stage of buying train tickets for the few segments we’ll need to cover:
Tokyo - Hakone
Hakone - Kyoto
Kyoto - Osaka
Osaka - Tokyo
Here are my questions:
a) Is it possible to buy train tickets for these segments from Canada?
b) If so, which website should I use to do this?
c) And if it is possible, will we be able to print our tickets from Canada?
d) If it’s not possible, where in Tokyo should I go to buy these tickets when I arrive?
Hi everyone, I wanted to take the Paris-Berlin overnight train with a sleeper berth, the new service operated by European Sleepers.
24/05/2026 17:45 Paris-Nord (actually 16:00 from Paris Bercy Seine) -> 25/05/2026 9:59 (actually 7:30 in Berlin)
05/06/2026 18:31 Berlin (actually 20:00) -> 06/06/2026 10:00 Paris Nord (actually 12:30)
Part of the journey was operated by bus instead of the promised overnight train.
For 2 people: 340 € round trip
A total disaster. Never again. I was really looking forward to taking the overnight train, but we faced last-minute changes and truly unpleasant travel conditions. Here are the details:
1) 2 days before departure: email announcing a change of departure station for the outbound trip—Bercy Seine bus station instead of Gare du Nord.
2) Change of schedule: 4:00 PM from Bercy instead of 5:45 PM from Gare du Nord.
3) Change of transport mode!! A bus from Paris to Brussels, then an overnight train from Brussels to Berlin. No functional toilets on the bus. No children under 4 allowed on the bus.
4) On the sleeper train at 9:30 PM: no functional toilets in our carriage, so we had to go to other carriages, even in the middle of the night, to find working ones.
5) The onboard staff, though very friendly, were as lost as we were. In particular, they didn’t know how to handle the lower berths, so people using them had less space (armrests and backrests). Berth numbers weren’t respected, so some passengers had to move. The staff also didn’t know who was supposed to join the compartment during the journey.
6) Arrival at 7:30 AM in Berlin instead of 10:00 AM. No arrival announcement. Passengers had to search for staff to get breakfast and ended up with just a coffee (breakfast = 15 €, not bad for just a coffee).
7) Return trip: drastic schedule change announced by email on 26/05/2026—departure at 7:30 PM instead of 6:30 PM, with arrival between 12:00 PM and 1:00 PM in Paris instead of 10:00 AM. No change in transport mode announced.
8) Change in transport mode announced by email on the same day (05/06/2026)!! Overnight train from Brussels to Berlin, then a bus from Paris to Brussels. No functional toilets on the bus. Children under 4 banned from the bus, and families in this situation were asked to find another way—after being notified the same day.
9) The overnight train arrived at Berlin station with a 30-minute delay on top of its initial delay (scheduled for 6:31 PM, then 7:30 PM, finally arriving at 8:00 PM). The heating was blasting in the compartment with no way to turn it off. No functional toilets in the carriage. From that point on, customer service stopped responding to my messages.
10) Woken up at 5:00 AM with an announcement in all carriages about arrival in Liège.
11) Woken up again at 6:00 AM to be told we’d arrive in Brussels at 7:00 AM.
12) Arrival in Brussels at 7:00 AM and a one-hour wait for the bus to Paris. No functional toilets on the bus.
13) Arrival at Paris Nord at 12:30 PM, so 2.5 hours late compared to the originally scheduled time.
14) The overnight trains used are very old—I recognized the carriages from 20 years ago!! No functional power outlets, no Wi-Fi, no air conditioning. Five people per compartment is a bit cramped, but I consider these conditions expected (especially the air conditioning), so I’m not complaining about that. There’s already plenty to gripe about with the travel conditions.
I have little hope of getting even a partial refund. Customer service emails acknowledge the discomfort but only offer to reimburse the cost of a coffee on board if we send them the receipt... a bit weak.
I’m sharing this experience in the hope it might help others.
Hi there,
I’d like to take the Train of the Clouds from Lima to Huancayo.
I’ve heard it only runs during certain periods.
Does anyone have info on this?
Thanks!
HuancayoHuancayo
As part of my professional thesis, I’m conducting a study on the evolution of long-distance rail transport in France, particularly since it opened up to competition.
I’ve put together a very quick (about 5-minute) and completely anonymous questionnaire. Your answers will help me better understand users' expectations regarding pricing, frequency, and environmental impact.
We’re planning a 15-day trip to Uzbekistan in March—classic independent itinerary: Tashkent, Samarkand, Bukhara, Khiva. We’d like to take the train between each city, but I don’t want to lock down the whole trip before we leave.
So, my question is: is it absolutely necessary to book train tickets before departure, whether for the high-speed trains or the regional ones? Is booking really essential for the regional trains?
Hello,
We’re traveling as a family with two boys aged 10 and 12 to Cairo in February. During our trip, we’re planning to take an overnight train (with or without a sleeper) for the Cairo-Aswan route.
Do you know how I can book this remotely?
Also, I’m looking for:
- A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan
- A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance!
Marie
Hi everyone,
I first traveled solo to Japan in 2019, exploring the Kyushu region (28 days), and I’m planning to return with my daughter (she’s an adult and it’ll be her first time in Asia) from April 25 to May 9.
I’m reaching out on this forum to ask for route ideas—this time north of Tokyo, but without heading to the Sapporo island (I’m saving that for a future trip).
I’d love to take advantage of the cherry blossom season and its festivities.
I’m looking to create a route that’s a little off the beaten path while staying within 5-6 hours by train from Tokyo to avoid spending too much time on transfers.
Thanks in advance for sharing your suggestions and experiences!
Michael
I'm heading to MEXICO IN NOVEMBER 2025. Since private guides and drivers are really expensive—over 300 € per day—I'm thinking of exploring the Yucatán by train. CAN YOU SHARE ANY INFO ON THIS? Thanks
Hi there!
We’re planning to visit Serbia (1 week) and then Montenegro (2nd week) with our kids from April 18 to May 4. We’d prefer to travel by train (overnight if possible), but we’re not sure which platform to book on or when to do it (is it too early?). If anyone has any tips, I’m all ears!!
I wanted to know if it’s possible to go from Tashkent to Almaty by train without passing through Kyrgyzstan. I’ve heard the border is often closed 😕 between Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan.
Thanks in advance!
Olivier
Hi there!
We’re planning to head back to Istanbul next year—obviously by plane—and then take the train from Istanbul to Antalya. Has anyone here already made this trip by train with TCDD?
I’d love any tips or info that could be useful for us!
I'd like to go to Montserrat on my own from Barcelona. Share your suggestions with me.
Which train should I take, where to get off, what to see once I arrive, etc.
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January.
I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck.
I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue?
Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region.
After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani?
Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient).
But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this?
We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help,
and have a great Sunday!
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us.
I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com.
Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend?
Are the tickets changeable?
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.