Merci d'avance, Renaud
Travailler clandestinement en France (sans visa), est-ce possible?
by RebTorpille
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bon.....une question un peu embarassante, j'en convient. Mais voyez-vous, je pars pour la France le 15 septembre ce qui ne me laisse pas vraiment le temps de me procurer un Visa de travail. De plus, cette paperasse me donne envie de vomir. Donc, je me demandais simplement s'il était possible de faire un peu d'argent (vendanges, n'importe quoi, etc.) au début de mon voyage même sans avoir ce bout de papier. Ainsi, je pourrai voyager plus longtemps et me rendre jusqu'au Portugal.
Merci d'avance, Renaud
Merci d'avance, Renaud
Effectivement travailler "au noir" est interdit en france... mais vivant dans le sud de la france (région où il y a beaucoup de vendanges à faire et bientôt il me semble...) je peux vous dire qu'il y a pas de gens non déclarés.... 😊 ainsi que dans la cueillette de melon etc... je ne dis pas que ce soit normal bien au contraire mais cela se fait régulièrement... et quand on a pas trop de solutions... 😕
La seule chose qu'on est sûr de ne pas réussir est celle que l'on ne tente pas !!! (Paul-Emile Victor)
t en fais pas va, ce st super facile de bosser au black au france, surtout pour toi qui parles francais.
les vendanges dans le sud de la france sont une tres bonne occasion par exemple.
et si tu te fais attraper(ce qui a tres tres tres peu de chances d arriver)ils ne te feront pas grand chose de toute facon...
Tout le monde peut travailler au noir partout dans le monde et même à Montréal Renaud.
Le truc est de ne pas se faire prendre tout simplement et la majorité y arrive je crois bien. Mais d'autres se font prendre avec pour résultat l'expulsion du pays (oui même si tu es Québécois et un gentil cousin) et par la suite interdiction de te représenter aux frontières françaises et même de l'Europe si ne me trompe pas, et ce pour de longues années. Donc presque rien n'est-ce pas? Il s'agit simplement de se demander si le jeu en vaut la chandelle surtout qu'il existe entre le Québec et la France une foule de programmes d'échanges.
IL ne faut surtout pas oublier que l'immigration est actuellement le problème le plus important en Europe. Alors les autorités sont particulièrement sensibles aux travailleurs illégaux.
Le truc est de ne pas se faire prendre tout simplement et la majorité y arrive je crois bien. Mais d'autres se font prendre avec pour résultat l'expulsion du pays (oui même si tu es Québécois et un gentil cousin) et par la suite interdiction de te représenter aux frontières françaises et même de l'Europe si ne me trompe pas, et ce pour de longues années. Donc presque rien n'est-ce pas? Il s'agit simplement de se demander si le jeu en vaut la chandelle surtout qu'il existe entre le Québec et la France une foule de programmes d'échanges.
IL ne faut surtout pas oublier que l'immigration est actuellement le problème le plus important en Europe. Alors les autorités sont particulièrement sensibles aux travailleurs illégaux.
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Carboneras-Andalousie
Ton intention est honorable mais je pense qu'il te sera difficile de bosser en toute légalité sans visa, c'est sur!
En revanche si tu es du genre aventurier, il te reste la possibilité de bosser au black dans la restauration ou éventuellement les vendanges mais alors ce sera dur de trouver le taf d'avance.
"Going on means going far, going far means returning"
Merci a tous pour ces brillants conseils....Ils sont très appréciés et m'ont un peu éclairés dans ma future recherche d'emplois au ''black'' comme vous dites...si j'ai bien compris vous ne me recommandez pas de le faire mais vous me dites qu'en général les risques de se faire prendre sont assez bas. J'irai donc dans le sud de la france et je tenterai ma chance auprès de quelques fermiers ou quelque chose dans le genre...
Merci a tous, Renaud
Merci a tous, Renaud
Bonjour,
Oui effectivement tu peux trouver du travail au noir en France. Mais fait attention, beaucoup de personnes travaillant au noir se font exploiter : elles travaillent et ne reçoivent jamais leur salaire ... et il n'y a pas de moyen de se plaindre à part engager des procédures au Prud'hommes, ce qui est long ... Ces situations arrivent plus qu'on ne le croit, alors soit prudent ! 😉
Bon voyage !
Oui effectivement tu peux trouver du travail au noir en France. Mais fait attention, beaucoup de personnes travaillant au noir se font exploiter : elles travaillent et ne reçoivent jamais leur salaire ... et il n'y a pas de moyen de se plaindre à part engager des procédures au Prud'hommes, ce qui est long ... Ces situations arrivent plus qu'on ne le croit, alors soit prudent ! 😉
Bon voyage !
J'irai donc dans le sud de la france et je tenterai ma chance auprès de quelques fermiers ou quelque chose dans le genre...
Merci a tous, Renaud
Fait attention car en général ce sont les premiers à être malhonnête. Comme ils sont en recul de la ville et qu'il y a trés peu de mouvement ils en profitent. ca pour travailler tu travailles, mais soit pas un salaire minable soit t'en a pas ! Pire si t'as pas de Visa de travail, tu pourras pas te plaindre 😕
J'habite dans le sud de la France et même moi qui suit francaise et donc qui peut travailler j'ai déjà eu des propositions pas trés "clean".
bon courage qu'en même 😉
Merci a tous, Renaud
Fait attention car en général ce sont les premiers à être malhonnête. Comme ils sont en recul de la ville et qu'il y a trés peu de mouvement ils en profitent. ca pour travailler tu travailles, mais soit pas un salaire minable soit t'en a pas ! Pire si t'as pas de Visa de travail, tu pourras pas te plaindre 😕
J'habite dans le sud de la France et même moi qui suit francaise et donc qui peut travailler j'ai déjà eu des propositions pas trés "clean".
bon courage qu'en même 😉
hmmmm....vois-tu, ces procédures sont très longues et malheureusement pas très abordables dans mon cas. Je préfère donc l'aventure et le risque de me faire avoir par des fermiers ou n'importe quoi....
Vos conseils sont très appréciés et je vous remercient....
Renaud
Vos conseils sont très appréciés et je vous remercient....
Renaud
hmmmm....vois-tu, ces procédures sont très longues et malheureusement pas très abordables dans mon cas. Je préfère donc l'aventure et le risque de me faire avoir par des fermiers ou n'importe quoi....
Vos conseils sont très appréciés et je vous remercient....
Renaud
tres longues??? deux heures pour obtenir mon visa ! tu es surtout un gros faineant... apres, question cout, il faut pouvoir justifier d'au moins trois mois de vie sur place, et la, c'est autre chose.
Vos conseils sont très appréciés et je vous remercient....
Renaud
tres longues??? deux heures pour obtenir mon visa ! tu es surtout un gros faineant... apres, question cout, il faut pouvoir justifier d'au moins trois mois de vie sur place, et la, c'est autre chose.
Le PVT est un des visa les plus faciles et rapides à obtenir. En plus, il est gratuit. Par contre, il est soumis à des quotas, et ils sont atteints pour 2006, donc pour faire les vendanges en septembre, c'est pas la peine.
En plus de risquer de tomber sur des employeurs malhonnêtes qui rechignent à payer, bosser au noir ne te protège pas du tout en cas d'accident de travail. Et quand on projette de faire les vendanges, c'est risqué, car c'est un travail ou les blessures sont fréquentes.
En plus de risquer de tomber sur des employeurs malhonnêtes qui rechignent à payer, bosser au noir ne te protège pas du tout en cas d'accident de travail. Et quand on projette de faire les vendanges, c'est risqué, car c'est un travail ou les blessures sont fréquentes.
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Hi everyone, so I’m planning to go study at a community college in the U.S., but the only snag is which one—there are so many options over there! I’ve heard about one in California, Diablo Valley College, and another in Florida, Valencia College. I know both states are super attractive for tourism, but my main criteria are teaching quality and price. I’m open to any advice, comments, or suggestions—thanks in advance! The start of the semester is coming up, and I’m a little nervous...
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Has anyone gone on a language study trip in Europe? If so, which agencies did you use? What can you tell me about it? Thanks a lot! Kelkune
Has anyone gone on a language study trip in Europe? If so, which agencies did you use? What can you tell me about it? Thanks a lot! Kelkune
Hi! I’m looking for an apartment in Malaga from September (2025) until January for my Erasmus exchange, but I’m not finding much, and it seems like there are a lot of scams. Does anyone have any leads or tips? Thanks!^^