j'ai très envie de faire le trek de 17jr de zig zag tour de l'almapayao et huascaran "au pied des geants" mais il y a un hic c'est le passage de 3000 à 4650 du J3 au J4!!!!! carrément affolant!!! soit il y a une erreur dans leur topo soit....bref je ne trouve pas trace sur le net de leur trek. qqn a-t-il fait ce trek? que pouvez vous m'en dire? quel niveau de difficulté? merci d'avance nadine
Trek de l'Alpamayo et de l'Huascarán (Pérou)
by NadineL
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour
j'ai très envie de faire le trek de 17jr de zig zag tour de l'almapayao et huascaran "au pied des geants" mais il y a un hic c'est le passage de 3000 à 4650 du J3 au J4!!!!! carrément affolant!!! soit il y a une erreur dans leur topo soit....bref je ne trouve pas trace sur le net de leur trek. qqn a-t-il fait ce trek? que pouvez vous m'en dire? quel niveau de difficulté? merci d'avance nadine
j'ai très envie de faire le trek de 17jr de zig zag tour de l'almapayao et huascaran "au pied des geants" mais il y a un hic c'est le passage de 3000 à 4650 du J3 au J4!!!!! carrément affolant!!! soit il y a une erreur dans leur topo soit....bref je ne trouve pas trace sur le net de leur trek. qqn a-t-il fait ce trek? que pouvez vous m'en dire? quel niveau de difficulté? merci d'avance nadine
C'est sûr qu'en général il est conseillé de consacrer entre un et trois jours à s'acclimater. Et 3000m est une bonne altitude pour ça; c'est celle de Huaraz ou Cusco. Mais après, les 4600 m s'avalent sans difficulté le plus souvent. Le plus souvent parce qu'en fait, chacun réagit à sa manière.
Faites un beau voyage
Je n'ai pas le détail du trek mais : ce qui compte, c'est la différence d'altitude entre 2 nuits, pas l'altitude max de la journée. C'est quoi 4650 m, un col ou l'étape ? tour de l'Alpamayo, j'ai fait en autonome mais pas d'avis sur celui de zig zag si ce n'est que c'est un trek d'agence, normalement rodé et adapté au marcheur moyen pas entrainé donc a priori cool...
Quelques photos : http://obiou.fr/
Bonjour
merci de ta réponse, à priori c'est le col passé et j'ai justement fait un mail à zig zag pour leur demander d'exprimer l'altitude des camps. Il semblerait qu'entre temps ils aient commencé à revoir la fiche et réduit à 110 m la fameuse étape Pour toi un trekkeur moyen a les gambettes sufisamment solides pour le faire? merci de ton avis en tout cas
merci de ta réponse, à priori c'est le col passé et j'ai justement fait un mail à zig zag pour leur demander d'exprimer l'altitude des camps. Il semblerait qu'entre temps ils aient commencé à revoir la fiche et réduit à 110 m la fameuse étape Pour toi un trekkeur moyen a les gambettes sufisamment solides pour le faire? merci de ton avis en tout cas
Salut
J'ai fait ce trek en autonomie dans le sens inverse de celui proposé par Zig Zag et je vois bien de quelle montée il s'agit, je l'ai descendue 🙂. Le terme "Rude montée" employée sur la fiche technique du trek Zig Zag est bien choisi, lol 😏.
Qu'est ce qui te fait flipper exactement ? Les 1600m de dénivellés ? L'altitude ? L'acclimatation ?
L'acclimatation est bien le problème ici: de 3000 à 4600m, j'estime que c'est un peu n'importe quoi ... mais ça n'engage que moi. Et ce d'autant qu'il y'a au moins un bon campement intermédiaire avant d'arriver à la laguna Cullicocha...
Essaie peut être de voir si tu ne peux pas trouver le trek équivalent sur d'autres voyagistes, tu devrais pouvoir en trouver un avec une étape intermédiaire.
A+ Samuel
J'ai fait ce trek en autonomie dans le sens inverse de celui proposé par Zig Zag et je vois bien de quelle montée il s'agit, je l'ai descendue 🙂. Le terme "Rude montée" employée sur la fiche technique du trek Zig Zag est bien choisi, lol 😏.
Qu'est ce qui te fait flipper exactement ? Les 1600m de dénivellés ? L'altitude ? L'acclimatation ?
L'acclimatation est bien le problème ici: de 3000 à 4600m, j'estime que c'est un peu n'importe quoi ... mais ça n'engage que moi. Et ce d'autant qu'il y'a au moins un bon campement intermédiaire avant d'arriver à la laguna Cullicocha...
Essaie peut être de voir si tu ne peux pas trouver le trek équivalent sur d'autres voyagistes, tu devrais pouvoir en trouver un avec une étape intermédiaire.
A+ Samuel
ahhh ca me conforte dans l'idée que j'ai encore du bon sens!!! ce qui m'effraie c'est un dénivelé de 1600 sur une montée mortelle à une telle altitude...ce qui fait 3 contraintes en 1.
Pas trouvé d'autre T-O proposant le trek dans l'autre sens en avril. Si tu es mieux renseigné ta réponse sera la bienvenue
au fait pourquoi personne ne mentionne les caissons de décompression là bas? tous des trompe la mort ou bien?
NL
Ah oui en Avril.... normal, ça n'est vraiment pas la bonne saison !
T'es sûr que tu veux y aller en Avril ?
Si tu attends le mois de Juin par exemple, tu auras de bonnes chances d'avoir une meilleure météo, tu ne paieras pas le prix max des T-O et tu pourras ... choisir le T-O 😉.
Une autre option si tu ne pars pas seule et que vous etes un tant soi peu débrouillards: pleins de petites agences péruviennes peuvent organiser le trek comme vous le souhaitez à partir de 2 personnes.
A+ Samuel
PS: les caissons de décompression...ça ne sert pas à grand chose, le seul remède à un MAM sérieux étant la descente. Je considère les caissons comme un argument marketing des agences.
Une autre option si tu ne pars pas seule et que vous etes un tant soi peu débrouillards: pleins de petites agences péruviennes peuvent organiser le trek comme vous le souhaitez à partir de 2 personnes.
A+ Samuel
PS: les caissons de décompression...ça ne sert pas à grand chose, le seul remède à un MAM sérieux étant la descente. Je considère les caissons comme un argument marketing des agences.
J'ai regardé l'itineraire.
C'est effectivement une étape classique. Beaucoup d'agence l'effectuent ainsi et elle est aussi proposée dans ce sens par Vincent Geus dans son livre sur les treks au Pérou.
Personnellement j'avais choisi de faire la boucle dans l'autre sens.
Bon, c'est plutôt 1500 m de montée, mais direct. Tu ne porteras pas ton fourbi et tu auras eu 2 nuits pour t'accoutumer : c'est pas vraiment extrême. Si les voyageurs mourraient comme des mouches ils auraient changé d'itinéraire ou de sens 😉
Quant au "caisson de décompression", que j'appellerai plutôt "caisson hyperbare", ce n'est pas un moyen "normal" de progression ou d'accoutumance à l'altitude mais un élément éventuel d'une trousse de secours. Dans le cas présent, pas forcément nécessaire : si qqu'un est malade à la Laguna Cullicocha il peut redescendre très vite. Et si tu survis à la première étape, le reste de l'itinéraire passera tout seul...
Bon voyage quand même.
Quelques photos : http://obiou.fr/
d"accord d'accord....la météo en avril ça donne quoi? Pluie? neige? plaques de verglas? si ce n'est qu'une question de degrés c'est un d'étail mais la pluie pas trop....même pas du tout
Personne ne mentionne de villages ou de zone habitée sur ces treks? c'est le no man's land? Idem Huayhuash
je veux voir beaux paysages et hameaux, bref de l'authentique, de la couleur, pas que du caillou. Bouteilles d'eau peuvent s'acheter sur le chemin ou bien on est condamné à ces maudites pastilles?
autre question? top five des treks au perou (au cas ou huascaran mis de côté) comparé aux treks de l'Equateur? merci
autre question? top five des treks au perou (au cas ou huascaran mis de côté) comparé aux treks de l'Equateur? merci
Avril = pluie 😉
Villages ? Pas de "vrai village" sur ce parcours. Quelques maisons, par exemple élévages de lamas et alpagas dans la plaine de Huillca. Ce n'est pas le no man's land absolu. Beaux paysages: pour la partie au nord de l'Alpamayo, yeessss !!! Beaux paysages en perspectives. Tu peux voir des photos ici: http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=772940;#772940 (voir surtout les photos à la fin du récit "Tour de l'alpamayo"). Bouteilles d'eau qui s'achètent en chemin ? Niet. C'est soit pastilles, soit eau bouillie.
Top five des treks au Pérou ? Faudrait que je les aie tous faits pour avoir un avis pertinent sur la question. Quant à l'Equateur... connait pas.
A+ Samuel
Villages ? Pas de "vrai village" sur ce parcours. Quelques maisons, par exemple élévages de lamas et alpagas dans la plaine de Huillca. Ce n'est pas le no man's land absolu. Beaux paysages: pour la partie au nord de l'Alpamayo, yeessss !!! Beaux paysages en perspectives. Tu peux voir des photos ici: http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=772940;#772940 (voir surtout les photos à la fin du récit "Tour de l'alpamayo"). Bouteilles d'eau qui s'achètent en chemin ? Niet. C'est soit pastilles, soit eau bouillie.
Top five des treks au Pérou ? Faudrait que je les aie tous faits pour avoir un avis pertinent sur la question. Quant à l'Equateur... connait pas.
A+ Samuel
Bonsoir
Pour la période mieux vaut faire ce trek après le 15 mai .... avant c'est + ou - de la pluie ...
Pour avoir fait le trek de Los Cedros (nord de l'Alpamayo)
pas de problème pour la montée après une acclimatation de 2-3 jours.
Pas de villages mais de l'eau partout dans les torrents: purifiée avec un filtre Katadyn.
La nuit il gèle sous la tente: donc prévoir un bon duvet .
C B
Je ne connais pas l'itineraire en question mais le trek Alpamayo Nord commence par une interminable montee en effet. Je n'ai pas la carte ici, mais cela monte plus de 2000 metres si je me souviens bien. Par contre, tu peux camper au milieu de la montee (au canal d'irrigation). Fin avril, oui c'est quand je lai fait moi, avantage je n'ai rencontre aucun autre touriste.
Salut Tichodrome, marrant je te pourchassais sur Google Earth et Panoramio de photo en photo 😉 et j'ai perdu ta trace avant le Portachuelo sur le flanc est de la Cordillère, je te retrouve ici 😮. Alors est-ce que tu pourrais m'en dire un peu plus sur cette partie de la Blanca ? 🙂
J'espère à bientôt
"Si vous pensez que l'aventure est dangereuse, n'essayez pas la routine, elle est mortelle !!"
Tu veux savoir quoi ?
Y'a le découpage de mes étapes et la trace GPS sur ma page web ; liens directs (ou presque) :
Trace GPS : http://obiou.fr/Photos/Gps/index.html
Etape par étape, cartes et photos : http://obiou.fr/Photos/070710Perou/index.html
A ta disposition pour plus de renseignements ; mais pas avant le w-e, je pars pour 2 jours.
Pierre
PS : j'ai eu un mail perso concernant également mes images dans Panoramio sur l'Alpamayo de a...g...@hotmail.com c'est toi ?
PS : j'ai eu un mail perso concernant également mes images dans Panoramio sur l'Alpamayo de a...g...@hotmail.com c'est toi ?
Quelques photos : http://obiou.fr/
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So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
Hi there,
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.






