Merci de votre aide 😉
Trek du chemin de l'Inca Lares-Choquequirao
by Yves8
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour aux amoureux du Perou et en lisant les VFistes il y en a beaucoup !😉
Pour un premier voyage début avril quelqu'un peut-il me conseiller de faire soit le chemin de l'Inca classique (il y a encore de la place pour s'y inscrire), soit un trek alternatif comme Choquekirao ou Lares voire Salkantay ?
J'ai à peu près 4 à 5 jours pour le faire et tiens à visiter MP.
A cette période de l'année puis-je attendre mon arrivée à Cuzco pour organiser rapidement le trek avec guide ou quelle agence conseiller à distance? J'ai regardé certaines de celles proposées dans LP et suis étonné des prix pratiqués cette année environ 1000€ pour 4 jours par personne à deux (Apus par exemple)
Merci de votre aide 😉
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Bonjour!
De ma conaissance je peut te dire que le trek de Choquiqueiraw tout seule prend 4 jour, de choquiqueiraw jusqu'au Machu Picchu 7 a 8 jour.
Pour les agences je ne suis pas la meilleur personne pour t'aider, tous que je suis sure c'est qu'il y a de prix ridicule sur internet et sur place tu peut trouver pour partir landemain assez facilement, c'est claire que ce moins organise, a Cuzco il faut faire un peut gaf avec les arnaqueur, mais bon la meme histoir de toujour.
Ce que je peut te dire ce que quasiment tous les treks sont facilement fait sans guide/agence si t'es dispo a porte ta boufe, tente, rechaud etc.
Nous on a fait Choquiqueiraw jusqu'a Machu Picchu, un tres jolie trek que sans agence il y a une dificulte assez elevé. Je te laisse le lien de notre blog pour si tu veux avoir une idee.
Trek
Aussi un bouquin interessent avec plain d'info pour faire du trek sans agence aux environs de Cusco / Machu Picchu
Bonne Voyage
Desole pour le francais je ne suis pas Francophone
Pour les agences je ne suis pas la meilleur personne pour t'aider, tous que je suis sure c'est qu'il y a de prix ridicule sur internet et sur place tu peut trouver pour partir landemain assez facilement, c'est claire que ce moins organise, a Cuzco il faut faire un peut gaf avec les arnaqueur, mais bon la meme histoir de toujour.
Ce que je peut te dire ce que quasiment tous les treks sont facilement fait sans guide/agence si t'es dispo a porte ta boufe, tente, rechaud etc.
Nous on a fait Choquiqueiraw jusqu'a Machu Picchu, un tres jolie trek que sans agence il y a une dificulte assez elevé. Je te laisse le lien de notre blog pour si tu veux avoir une idee.
Trek
Aussi un bouquin interessent avec plain d'info pour faire du trek sans agence aux environs de Cusco / Machu Picchu
Bonne Voyage
Desole pour le francais je ne suis pas Francophone
Peace!
Merci beaucoup pour tes infos Soner
ce qui m'inquiète est que c'est la fin de la saison humide et avec un risque de chemin d'accès difficile en avrilsur Choquekirao alors que le chemin de l'Inca très couru est aussi plus simple en cette saison peu être
Apartpour le chemin de l'inca, tu peux attendre d'arriver a Cusco, voir les conditions meteo, pour te decider.
merci c'est en gros le plus simple. Connais tu le trek de la vallée de Lares?
Oui la tu dois faire attention parce que il n'y a pas 'le trek' de Lares. Les agences vendent differents treks de et vers lares qui sont plus ou moins interessants.
Je te recommanderais le trek 'originel' de lares qui commence a huaran et passe 2 cols via Cuncani pour finir a Lares 3 jours.
pour plus court, celui qui fait yanahuara lares via la foret de Mantanay et les lacs (un seul col est aussi interessant.
A mon avis celui qui va a Patacancha est moins interessant, c'est le plus facile et celui que les agences preferent;
C'est une très bonne idée et j'attendrai d'être à Cuzco pour l'organiser tout simplement
Merci et à bientôt Yves
Salut Yves,
Je vais Être vers Cusco en Aout.
Je voulais savoir si finalement tu avais pu organiser ton voyage sur place? QUel treck as tu fait? Celui de lares?
J'hésite en effet entre lares et choquequirao.
Merci
Camille
Salut Yves,
Je vais Être vers Cusco en Aout.
Je voulais savoir si finalement tu avais pu organiser ton voyage sur place? QUel treck as tu fait? Celui de lares?
J'hésite en effet entre lares et choquequirao.
Merci
Camille
Bonjour Camille Tu vas faire un beau voyage en allant au Pérou dans la région de Cuzco En définitive j'ai fait le chemin de l'Inca et j'en suis très content. Ca n'a pas été comme je le craignais la transhumance matinale de 500 personnes (en fait il y a moitié moins de touristes et les porteurs partent plus tôt ou plus tard que les groupes de marcheurs) et souvent on s'est retrouvés seuls en décalant un peu nos horaires de départ et nos lieux d'arrivée. La balade est splendide avec des sites archéologiques très intéressants et beaux sur le chemin. Dans le petit groupe où nous étions, un père de 56 ans s'est trouvé en mauvaise santé et a mal terminé son trek avec caisson hyperbare à l'arrivée. Nous avions bien préparé notre acclimatation en arrivant au Pérou avec d'abord Arequipa 2300 m et des marches dans le Canyon de Colca 3000 m puis la région du lac Titicaca 3900 m avec le bonheur de rester qqes jours sur la presqu'île de Llachon. Nous y étions quasiment seuls et la visite à la fin de notre séjour de quelques heures de l'île de Taquile, très belle, mais remplie de touristes a été un choc "culturel". Enfin nous sommes arrivés à Cuzco bien acclimatés. Choquequirao n'était pas une bonne idée au moment où nous y étions car encore très boueux. Lares permet de bien se balader dans la vallée sacrée je crois. Pour la période d'hiver austral très sèche, c'est différent et tout est possible avec la nuance que Choquequirao me semble être une belle aventure dans une nature intacte. Si je devais venir en ce moment c'est là que j'aimerais aller avec la cordillère blanche au nord du Pérou. Un dernier mot le beau musée archéologique dans un jardin fantastique à Lima est à ne pas manquer. De belles expérience de repas de ceviche sur tous les parcours et des pommes de terre de toutes les couleurs ! Manger dans les marchés ets bien sympathique
Bon voyage Yves
Bonjour Camille Tu vas faire un beau voyage en allant au Pérou dans la région de Cuzco En définitive j'ai fait le chemin de l'Inca et j'en suis très content. Ca n'a pas été comme je le craignais la transhumance matinale de 500 personnes (en fait il y a moitié moins de touristes et les porteurs partent plus tôt ou plus tard que les groupes de marcheurs) et souvent on s'est retrouvés seuls en décalant un peu nos horaires de départ et nos lieux d'arrivée. La balade est splendide avec des sites archéologiques très intéressants et beaux sur le chemin. Dans le petit groupe où nous étions, un père de 56 ans s'est trouvé en mauvaise santé et a mal terminé son trek avec caisson hyperbare à l'arrivée. Nous avions bien préparé notre acclimatation en arrivant au Pérou avec d'abord Arequipa 2300 m et des marches dans le Canyon de Colca 3000 m puis la région du lac Titicaca 3900 m avec le bonheur de rester qqes jours sur la presqu'île de Llachon. Nous y étions quasiment seuls et la visite à la fin de notre séjour de quelques heures de l'île de Taquile, très belle, mais remplie de touristes a été un choc "culturel". Enfin nous sommes arrivés à Cuzco bien acclimatés. Choquequirao n'était pas une bonne idée au moment où nous y étions car encore très boueux. Lares permet de bien se balader dans la vallée sacrée je crois. Pour la période d'hiver austral très sèche, c'est différent et tout est possible avec la nuance que Choquequirao me semble être une belle aventure dans une nature intacte. Si je devais venir en ce moment c'est là que j'aimerais aller avec la cordillère blanche au nord du Pérou. Un dernier mot le beau musée archéologique dans un jardin fantastique à Lima est à ne pas manquer. De belles expérience de repas de ceviche sur tous les parcours et des pommes de terre de toutes les couleurs ! Manger dans les marchés ets bien sympathique
Bon voyage Yves
Merci Yves pour ta réponse si rapide et si complète!!
Je vais effectivement essayer de faire attention au problème de l'altitude mais normalement je passe par la Bolivie et le lac Titicaca d'abord ( je vais regarder pour la presqu'île de llachon) donc une fois au Perou ca devrait aller.
Je ne pourrai pas faire le treck du chemin de l'Inca car tout est réservé jusqu'au 18 octobre.. Il semblerait que je ne sois pas toute seule à y avoir pensé...
Du coup je pense que je vais suivre tes conseils et vais regarder pour Choquequirao.
UNe dernière petite question: Avec quelle agence avez vous fait le tour? Peux tu m'en recommander une?
Merci
bonjour
pour effectuer le vrai chemin de l inca , les agences ont besoin d une licence spécifique , ce qui explique le peu de place possible
il existe cependant de nombreux chemins alternatifs un peu moins physique que le parcours traditionnel mais tout aussi merveilleux avec la visite du machu picchu comprise a des prix beaucoup plus avantageux et avec surtout une meilleure disponibilité
cdlt fan
à l'aube des temps, le paradis se nommait Eden, son nom fut ensuite oublié et Dieu décida de le renommer "Pérou"
le plus merveilleux et le plus mystérieux des pays...
bonjour
pour effectuer le vrai chemin de l inca , les agences ont besoin d une licence spécifique , ce qui explique le peu de place possible
il existe cependant de nombreux chemins alternatifs un peu moins physique que le parcours traditionnel mais tout aussi merveilleux avec la visite du machu picchu comprise a des prix beaucoup plus avantageux et avec surtout une meilleure disponibilité
cdlt fan
Il existe aussi de nombreux autres chemins incas dans tout le Pérou, le Capac ñan étant un réseau de chemins qui part de l’Équateur et va jusqu'au Chili et à l'Argentine. De nombreux chemins transversaux relient différents endroits au chemin principal.
Il existe donc des centaines d'options de randonnées sur des chemins incas (et sans marcher avec des centaines de personnes et devoir réserver 6 mois à l'avance !).
Pour ceux qui seraient à Lima en ce moment il y a une expo sur le Capac ñan gratuite et intéressante au museo de la nacion.
Il existe aussi de nombreux autres chemins incas dans tout le Pérou, le Capac ñan étant un réseau de chemins qui part de l’Équateur et va jusqu'au Chili et à l'Argentine. De nombreux chemins transversaux relient différents endroits au chemin principal.
Il existe donc des centaines d'options de randonnées sur des chemins incas (et sans marcher avec des centaines de personnes et devoir réserver 6 mois à l'avance !).
Pour ceux qui seraient à Lima en ce moment il y a une expo sur le Capac ñan gratuite et intéressante au museo de la nacion.
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Pascal
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
Hi there,
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
