Me trouvant actuellement en Thaïlande, je dois effectuer un virement bancaire d'une valeur de 180 000 bahts (environ 4800€) depuis mon compte Banque Postale vers un compte en Thaïlande.
Après m'être renseigné un peu sur Internet, j'ai cru comprendre qu'il fallait simplement les coordonnées de la banque en Thaïlande, le numéro de compte de la personne concernée ainsi que le BIC/SWIFT code (ici : KASITHBKXXX... (il faut bien mettre les XXX et non pas un chiffre ?))
Pouvez-vous me dire quels seront les frais pour un virement de ce montant avec la Banque Postale ? Je lis tout et son contraire, à savoir entre 10 et 20€ de frais, ou encore 0,10% du montant total...
Pour comparaison, lors de mes nombreux transferts depuis un compte bancaire suisse à un compte bancaire en Thaïlande, ça m'a coûté différement en fonction de si je choisissais les frais entièrement à la charge du donneur d'ordre (à ma charge donc) ou partagés avec le compte bénéficiaire.
Partagés ça me coûte l'équivalent de 5€ de frais, mais environ 1000 THB en moins à l'arrivée sur le compte thaï. Par contre tout à ma charge environ 20€, mais sans être sûr que la banque thaïe ne prennent pas un petit quelque chose pour ses frais de transfert, mais bien moins que THB 1000.- Certaines banques thaïes sont moins gourmantes en frais et ont surtout un meilleur taux de change, la meilleure actuellement est la Krungsri, la Bangkok Bank suit avec un taux de change un peu plus bas.
La Thaïlande n'utilisant pas les IBAN, les frais sont plus élevés. Le mieux est de demander à sa banque les conditions du compte utlilisé vu le montant élevé du transfert.
Partagés ça me coûte l'équivalent de 5€ de frais, mais environ 1000 THB en moins à l'arrivée sur le compte thaï. Par contre tout à ma charge environ 20€, mais sans être sûr que la banque thaïe ne prennent pas un petit quelque chose pour ses frais de transfert, mais bien moins que THB 1000.-
Bonjour,
La Kasikorn poctionne de 1.1% sur le taux de change
Et il est préférable d'envoyer du CHF ou de l'EUR sur son compte Thai... Le change est plus favorable que si c'était la banque postale ou l'UBS qui faisait la conversion (dans le cas où l'on transfererait directement du THB)
Oui, généralement j'envoie en CHF sur la banque Krungsri (a l'époque la Bangkok Bank qui était plus intéressante pour son taux de change, mais qui ponctionnait plus de frais), la Kasikorn est moins intéressante rien que pour son taux de change bien plus bas !
J'ai essayé différentes méthodes (banque belge, moneybookers, western union...)
Le plus fiable et le moins cher est western union qui pour un transfert de compte à compte, belgique -> thailande (kasikorn) prend 4,90 € de frais quel que soit le montant.
Le plus fiable et le moins cher est western union qui pour un transfert de compte à compte, belgique -> thailande (kasikorn) prend 4,90 € de frais quel que soit le montant.
Mouais, peut etre qu'en terme de frais c'est parmis les moins cher, mais avez vous comparé le taux de change appliqué par western union et celui de la banque Thai ? Moi oui, et western union est clairement pas avantageux.
Par contre, pour un trasnfert rapide, western union est genial, on peut pas leur enlever.
Si en plus ils ponctionnent 1,1%, cela fait du 36.27 si je ne me trompe pas ?
En gros, ça doit être ça, oui...
Donc un total de : 180 000/36.27 = 4963€
Soit 91€ de frais de change... 🏴☠️
A ajouter les frais bancaires et là on dépasse aisément les 100€... Ça fait mal
Je n'arrive pas à vous suivre dans votre raisonnement des frais...
Si vous prenez le taux telex et vous y ponctionnez les 1.1% vous arrivez à un cours légèrement supérieur que celui des billets de banque...
Bon, comme il a été dit... la kasikorn n'est pas la banque qui donne le plus de baht pour des euros...
Il est vrai qu'il convient mieux changer ses euros (surtout pour une grosse somme) auprès de bureaux de change comme superrich...
Vraiment pas de chance pour moi que l'euro se soit cassé la gu**** il y a 1 mois... Pas d'espoir que ça remonte par rapport au baht dans les prochaines semaines ?
je ne me fie jamais à yahoo finance ni à oanda.com
Cela ne reflète pas la réalité du taux de change mais plutôt au taux de change interbancaire...
Vraiment pas de chance pour moi que l'euro se soit cassé la gu**** il y a 1 mois... Pas d'espoir que ça remonte par rapport au baht dans les prochaines semaines ?
Il peut remonter jusqu'à 37... mais je ne pense pas davantage à cause des grecs...
Ils n'ont pas les meilleurs taux, je constate environ 1 baht en moins par euro que le taux normal,
mais il n'y a aucun frais (banque Thaie, commissions diverses etc)
Evidemment il faut voir le montant qu'on envoie.
Si j'envoie 1000 euros, en perdant 1 baht par euro, disons qu'au pire ca me coûte environ 25 €.
Sinon les frais explosent au départ de l'Europe et la banque Thaie se prend encore une commission.
Avec WE leur site m'indique combien de baths arriveront sur mon compte, et c'est ca pile poil et avec des délais de transfert excellents.
Si vous prenez le taux telex et vous y ponctionnez les 1.1% vous arrivez à un cours légèrement supérieur que celui des billets de banque...
Je ne comprends pas bien, sur le tableau http://www.kasikornbank.com/EN/RatesAndFees/ForeignExchange/Pages/ForeignExchange.aspx je vois que le taux des billets de banque est à 36,40045, tandis que le taux calcul après les 1.1% de ponction s'élève à 36,27...
Par conséquent j'en déduis que c'est plus intéressant pour moi de retirer l'argent à la banque, non ? 18€ de gagnés (4945€ par rapport à 4963€...)
Certes il y a des frais de retrait : 180 bahts tous les retraits de 30 000 bahts (donc 6x180 pour 6 retraits = 1080 bahts) mais ils remplacent les frais de virement en quelque sorte ?
Je ne comprends pas bien, sur le tableau http://www.kasikornbank.com/EN/RatesAndFees/ForeignExchange/Pages/ForeignExchange.aspx je vois que le taux des billets de banque est à 36,40045, tandis que le taux calcul après les 1.1% de ponction s'élève à 36,27...
Par conséquent j'en déduis que c'est plus intéressant pour moi de retirer l'argent à la banque, non ? 18€ de gagnés (4945€ par rapport à 4963€...)
🤪 je ne saurai te dire...
certes il y a des frais de retrait : 180 bahts tous les retraits de 30 000 bahts (donc 6x180 pour 6 retraits = 1080 bahts) mais ils remplacent les frais de virement en quelque sorte ?
tu confonds avec ta CB française concernant les 180 bahts de frais...
Chez kasikorn: si tu retires dans ta province = gratuité sur les retraits jusqu'à concurrence de 20000 bahts
si tu retires dans une autre province que celle où tu as ouvert ton compte = 15 bahts par retrait
Ils n'ont pas les meilleurs taux, je constate environ 1 baht en moins par euro que le taux normal,
mais il n'y a aucun frais (banque Thaie, commissions diverses etc)
Evidemment il faut voir le montant qu'on envoie.
Si j'envoie 1000 euros, en perdant 1 baht par euro, disons qu'au pire ca me coûte environ 25 €.
Sinon les frais explosent au départ de l'Europe et la banque Thaie se prend encore une commission.
Avec WE leur site m'indique combien de baths arriveront sur mon compte, et c'est ca pile poil et avec des délais de transfert excellents.
c'est bizarre, en Suisse... disons pour une somme de 3000€, outre le fait qu'ils sont env. 1 bahts de moins que les banques, ils ponctionnes quelque 50€ pour le transfert... apparemment en Belgique ce n'est pas la même chose...
Qu'en est-il de la France?
Non en fait je me suis mal exprimé, toutes mes excuses !
Je n'ai pas de compte en Thaïlande, juste un compte français à la Banque Postale. Je dois juste transférer cette grosse somme pour avancer 1 an de loyer à mon futur proprio qui a un compte à la Kasikorn...
Donc je parlais effectivement de ma CB française 😉
Si tu retire de l'argent avec ta carte bancaire francaise a l'étranger
Le distributeur va te facturer 180THB
Tu retires 10.000THB (pour l'exemple)
Tu vas donc demander a ta banque francaise 10180THB
Le taux de change appliqué par ta banque est à voir avec elle, c'est normalement mentionné dans le livret des frais bancaire. Cela dépend du réseau (Mastercard, VISA, American Express), chacun a son propre taux. A cela, la banque francaise va faire du 0,1% avec un minimum de 4€ + eventuellement 10€
Je te laisse faire le calcul combien ca va te couter d'euros pour avoir 10.000THB
Pour Western union, je viens de faire la simulation, cela va te couter 303,04€ (20€ de frais + 283,04€ a changer en THB pour avoir 10.000THB)
Cas d'un virement
Imaginons une banque qui prennent 20€ de frais pour un virement international
Imaginons une banque qui prend 200THB pour reception d'un virement international (cas de la kasikorn lors de mes derniers virement). Ils faut donc que tu fasses parvenir 10.200THB a la banque pour que le proprio ai 10.000THB
Pour cela, il va falloir transférer 272.66€ (taux TT kasikorn du jour : 36.67) auquel tu rajoutes 20€ de frais soit un total de 292,66€ (tu as deja gagné 10€ par rapport a western union)
Si tu veux des vrais resultats, il va falloir faire des vrais calculs ;-)
Quand je retire c'est généralement le maximum, soit 30 000 bahts à chaque retrait (+180 bahts de frais donc)
Si l'on résume :
Taux de virement TT Kasikorn = 36.27 (après ponction de 1,1%)
Taux de retrait en billets = 36.40
Donc taux de retrait en billets plus intéressant que le taux TT apparemment...
De plus je viens d'apprendre que le plafond de transfert international à la Banque Postale était maintenant de 3000€, ce qui m'obligerait à faire 2 virements 😕 donc 2 fois plus de frais...
Par conséquent 4 solutions :
1/ J'arrive à faire un virement de 180 000 en une seule fois (possible via le conseiller financier ?) = 4963€ à un taux de 36.27 + frais de banque (25€) = 4988€
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2/ Je fais 2 virements de 2500 chacun = 5000€
+ 25x2 en frais
TOTAL = 5050€
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3/ Je transfère seulement 3000€ = 108 810 baths
+25€ de frais à payer
Restera 71 190 bahts à payer donc 3 retraits
30 000 + 30 000 + 11 190
Donc en euros = 1955€
Frais de retrait : 180*3 = 540 bahts
1955 (retrait) + 3000 (envoi) + 25 (frais de transfert) + 15 (frais de retrait) = 4995€
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4/ Je fais 6 retraits de 30 000 (à un taux de 36.40)
180 000 / 36.40 = 4945€
+ 180*6 = 30€ de frais de retrait
TOTAL = 4975€
Par conséquent il semblerait que la solution du retrait en espèces soit la moins onéreuse, même si ce n'est pas la plus pratique. A voir en plus si c'est possible de retirer 30 000 THB 6 fois sur 6 jours...
Cela dépend du réseau (Mastercard, VISA, American Express), chacun a son propre taux
Allez, je me répond à moi meme :D
Taux appliqué par visa:
http://www.visaeurope.com/making-payments/exchange-rates
Interessant sur le site, ils proposent de prendre en compte le pourcentage de commission appliqué par la banque (mais attention, il ne prenne pas en compte que parfois la banque défini un montant mini de commission, voir donc vos conditions
Taux de virement TT Kasikorn = 36.27 (après ponction de 1,1%)
Le taux de change est à 36.67 pour les virements. Quand aux frais appliqué par la Kasikorn, c'est moins sur. J'ai en tete un pourcentage avec un maximum de 200THB en frais. Je suis a la kasikorn et c'est la réponse que m'avait fait le service client par email il y a quelque temps. Je mets donc un bémol sur le 1.1%
Taux de retrait en billets = 36.40
Que veux dire taux de retrait en billet, le taux que tu indiques est le taux que tu obtiens sur place quand tu leurs donnes des billets en euros et qu'ils te donnent des THB, ce n'est pas le taux quand tu retires de l'argent.
Quand tu retires de l'argent, c'est le taux de ton reseau bancaire (visa, mastercard, AMEX) moins la commission de ta banque. Si tu veux faire un calcul précis, donne nous quels sont les frais appliqués par l'organisme de ta carte. Sans ça, impossible a faire le calcul.
4/ Je fais 6 retraits de 30 000 (à un taux de 36.40)
180 000 / 36.40 = 4945€
+ 180*6 = 30€ de frais de retrait
TOTAL = 4975€
Je vois 3 problemes a cette option:- 6 retraits de 30.000THB devraient rapidement exploser ton plafond. A discuter néanmoins avec ta banque
- Il va falloir trouver des distributeurs qui acceptent de te fournir 30.000THB (j'ai souvent eu des distributeurs qui me limitaient a 15.000THB meme si mon plafond de CB était loin d'être atteind
- Le 3eme et le plus important, c'est que ton calcul est faux. Pour les retraits, ce n'est pas ce taux de change qui est appliqué (voir ce que je dis plus haut dans ce message) et il faut prendre en considération les frais de ta banque francaise sur les retraits hors zone euros ;-) ce serait trop simple!!
Par contre, il y a une option que tu ne mentionne pas, si tu envisages l'option de retirer de l'argent, c'est que tu peux faire l'opération en étant physiquement en Thailande, n'est ce pas ?
Dans ce cas, prend 5000€ en cash (tu as le droit) et avec ce cash, tu le change dans un bon bureau de change (voir superrich) et la tu auras le taux de change que tu indiques (celui des bank notes) et sans avoir a payer les 180THB des retraits. PAr contre, il ne faut pas perdre le cash ;-)
Pour ta dernière option, malheureusement je me trouve déjà en Thailande depuis quelques jours, sinon c'est clair que ça aurait été l'option à privilégier :/
Je connais des distributeurs qui fournissent 30,000 THB, il s'agit de ceux de la banque jaune (Krunsgri je crois), c'est toujours à ceux-là que je vais.
En effet j'ai confondu le taux quand on retire de l'argent avec le taux qu'on obtient sur place quand on leur donne des billets en euros et qu'ils donnent des THB... Du coup ça change tout et c'est même plus intéressant que prévu !
Car sur le site visaeurope je remarque que le taux du jour est à 36.79, donc bien plus intéressant que 36.40. Quant aux commissions de ma banque, il n'y en a pas car j'ai une carte Visa Premier ;-)
Du coup si je retire 6x30000 à un taux de 36.79 et que j'ajoute les frais de 180 THB à chaque retrait j'arrive à : 4893€ + 29€ de frais
ce qui reste très correct... Reste à voir si c'est possible de retirer autant d'un coup, même sur 3/4 jours...
Dernière option : virement de 3000€ (plafond de la Banque Postale) et retrait de 1900€ aux distributeurs de la Krunsgri en 3 fois avec la CB de ma copine au Crédit Mutuel (30 000 + 30 0000 + 10 000)
Quelqu'un peut confirmer pour les frais de la Kasikorn Bank ? C'est clair que 200 THB seraient mieux que 1.1% !!
Dans le cas d'un virement international vers la Thaïlande vous conseillez de rentrer la somme en euros plutôt qu'en bahts c'est ça ?
- il n'y a pas de montant minimum ou maximum de transfert, sinon comment on achèterait des voitures ou des condos
- il n'est pas possible de faire un virement international vers la Thailande par internet avec la banque postale, il faut envoyer un courrier ou fax
- il est inutile et presque ridicule de calculer ce que vous coûtera un tranfert car à la fin le résultat est très peu différent
Merci de me corriger avec des faits, pas ce que vous croyez, car je vous parle de faits, le dernier transfert ayant été effectué il y a quelques mois pour plus de 100ke.
Je viens de regarder a l'instant et à part peut être en activant le service CERTICODE, ce qui n'est pas faisable directement en ligne, il n'y a pas d'option pour effectuer directement un transfert nternational.
il faut se connecter sur son espace internet , aller dans virement , gestion des benificiaires , ajouter un beneficiaire ( quand on donne le code swift il faut 11 caracteres , si vous en avez moins completer avec des x ).On recoit un code par sms pour confirmer et 48 h plus tard on peut commencer a faire des virement.
Y'en a pas un sur cent et pourtant ils existent. Leo Ferre
Oui et le montant maximum par transfert est de 3000€ visiblement.
- il est inutile et presque ridicule de calculer ce que vous coûtera un tranfert car à la fin le résultat est très peu différent
C'est gentil mais même si je ne transfère pas des sommes de 100k € comme vous je suis regardant sur des économies de quelques dizaines d'euros malgré tout ;)
Devant prochainement effectuer un virement en Thailande et ayant des comptes dans différents établissements bancaire, j'ai un peu regarder en détail les tarifs
La banque postale:
Frais par virement occasionnel émis : 0,1% du montant (9,9€ mini et 70€ maxi)
ING Direct:
Virement non SEPA emis en euros: 15€
De mémoire la caisse d'épargne Aquitaine me facturait qq chose comme 16€
Retrait avec CB:
- La banque postale: commission fixe de 3,3€ + 2,3% du montant
- ING direct: Pas de commssion fixe + Commission de 2% (mini 0,5€) - Taux de change appliqué est le taux Mastercard
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Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
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3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
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I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
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Hi,
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We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
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Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
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Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi there,
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Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
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- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
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- Kampot (round trip)
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Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
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That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
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Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
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We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips:
Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred.
PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront).
Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight)
· Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok)
· Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x")
· Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling.
For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees?
We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo.
Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.