Visas pour la Chine, Tibet et Népal, voyage avec sac à dos (non organisé)
by Violonfauve
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
je pars en Aout pour 6 mois de voyage en Asie. J´ai deja mon billet d´avion pour Chengdu en Chine et ai l´intention de voyager de maniere tres spontannee avec mon sac a dos.
Le probleme: -me faut il vraiment une reservation d´hotel? (je voulais tout faire sur place).
- J´aimerais me rendre au Tibet et de la au Nepal, et tout ca soit en bus ou jeep donc pas de billet d´avion retour (pour sortir de la Chine); quelles sont les possibilites?
Une autre question: je suis francaise mais j´habite en Allemagne, puis je faire ma demande de Visa en France ( j´ai l´impression qu´ils sont peut etre moins exigeant)?
Merci pour vos conseils et a bientot!
bonsoir,
oui il faut une réservation d'hôtel, tu peux faire une résa fictive imprimé avec un hôtel en Chine, puis une fois le visa obtenu tu l'annule
bonsoir,
oui il faut une réservation d'hôtel, tu peux faire une résa fictive imprimé avec un hôtel en Chine, puis une fois le visa obtenu tu l'annule
Bonsoir et merci! Qu´est ce qu´il en est pour le billet d´avion, est ce qu´une resa fictive est aussi suffisante? A bientot!
Bonsoir et merci! Qu´est ce qu´il en est pour le billet d´avion, est ce qu´une resa fictive est aussi suffisante? A bientot!
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tu vas dans une agence de voyage et tu fais une résa et tu prends l'imprimé. une fois le visa obtenu tu annule ou tu laisse dépasser l'option de date
Bonsoir! a nouveau merci! Je vais essayer avec la reservation, j´ai cependant entendu dire qu´ils voulaient vraiment voir le billet d´avion (comme dit, j´habite en Allemagne et j´ai peur qu´ils soient un peu plus severes ici!!).
A bientot!
Bonjour,
Etant donné que le billet d'avion tu ne l'auras pas avant d'arriver à l'aéroport, ils ne te le demanderont pas pour faire le Visa. Tu as seulement besoin d'imprimer la réservation de ton billet d'avion.
Donc je pense que ça devrait marcher pour un billet d'avion que tu annules par la suite.
Etant donné que le billet d'avion tu ne l'auras pas avant d'arriver à l'aéroport, ils ne te le demanderont pas pour faire le Visa. Tu as seulement besoin d'imprimer la réservation de ton billet d'avion.
Donc je pense que ça devrait marcher pour un billet d'avion que tu annules par la suite.
Bonjour,
Etant donné que le billet d'avion tu ne l'auras pas avant d'arriver à l'aéroport, ils ne te le demanderont pas pour faire le Visa. Tu as seulement besoin d'imprimer la réservation de ton billet d'avion.
Donc je pense que ça devrait marcher pour un billet d'avion que tu annules par la suite.
Bonsoir, merci, je vais essayer et je vous tiendrai au courant. A bientot!
Etant donné que le billet d'avion tu ne l'auras pas avant d'arriver à l'aéroport, ils ne te le demanderont pas pour faire le Visa. Tu as seulement besoin d'imprimer la réservation de ton billet d'avion.
Donc je pense que ça devrait marcher pour un billet d'avion que tu annules par la suite.
Bonsoir, merci, je vais essayer et je vous tiendrai au courant. A bientot!
Bonjour,
Je suis dans le même cas que toi, nous partons en Septembre pour un tour du monde avec arrivée à Pekin puis passage par le Tibet puis Nepal... Je suis assez stressée pour l'obtention du visa chinois et je ne sais pas comment faire sans billet d'avion retour. Pourras-tu me dire comment tu as fait et si cela a marché sans problème?
Merci d'avance!!
Je suis dans le même cas que toi, nous partons en Septembre pour un tour du monde avec arrivée à Pekin puis passage par le Tibet puis Nepal... Je suis assez stressée pour l'obtention du visa chinois et je ne sais pas comment faire sans billet d'avion retour. Pourras-tu me dire comment tu as fait et si cela a marché sans problème?
Merci d'avance!!
Mon blog de Tour du Monde et Voyages: http://www.salutterre.fr
Par contre, je suis désolé pour vous, mais oubliez le Tibet pour le moment. Sauf si vous êtes plus de 5 de la même nationalité à voyager.
SI ce n'est pas le cas, vous obtiendrez pour le moment jamais la permission d'aller au Tibet étant donné qu'il est actuellement fermé.
Je travaille pour une agence de voyage en Chine et on a pas réussi à envoyé 2 personnes la bas cette semaine. Les autres agences sont dans le même cas.
Trouvez des compagnons de voyages pour être plus nombreux et cela sera surement possible d'aller au Tibet ;)
Trouvez des compagnons de voyages pour être plus nombreux et cela sera surement possible d'aller au Tibet ;)
Bonsoir, quand j´en serai plus, je te tiendrai au courant.
En fait vous etes presque en meme temps que moi en Chine ( j´arrive le 16 aout a Chengdu). Peut etre qu´on pourrait vraiment se regrouper pour rentrer au Tibet debut septembre, il nous faudrait a ce moment la encore trouver 2 autres francais! Qu´en penses tu?
A bientot!
Par contre, je suis désolé pour vous, mais oubliez le Tibet pour le moment. Sauf si vous êtes plus de 5 de la même nationalité à voyager.
SI ce n'est pas le cas, vous obtiendrez pour le moment jamais la permission d'aller au Tibet étant donné qu'il est actuellement fermé.
Je travaille pour une agence de voyage en Chine et on a pas réussi à envoyé 2 personnes la bas cette semaine. Les autres agences sont dans le même cas.
Trouvez des compagnons de voyages pour être plus nombreux et cela sera surement possible d'aller au Tibet ;)
Bonsoir, vous m´avez dernierement dit, que pour rentrer au Tibet, il ne fallait pas uniquement etre 5 personnes de la meme nationalite mais egalement de la meme ville. Est ce que cette information est sure? Ou avez vous entre temps entendu autre chose? Merci pour votre aide et a bientot!
Trouvez des compagnons de voyages pour être plus nombreux et cela sera surement possible d'aller au Tibet ;)
Bonsoir, vous m´avez dernierement dit, que pour rentrer au Tibet, il ne fallait pas uniquement etre 5 personnes de la meme nationalite mais egalement de la meme ville. Est ce que cette information est sure? Ou avez vous entre temps entendu autre chose? Merci pour votre aide et a bientot!
Bonjour,
Jamais entendu parlé de cette obligation d'être de la même ville. Il faut "simplement" être un groupe de 5 personnes de même nationalité arrivant par le même avion ou train et repartant le même jour.
Bonjour, désolé si je me suis mal exprimé.
Quand je dis venant de la même ville, j'entends par là, par le même avion et donc arrivant en même temps et repartant en même temps.
Je ne parle bien sûr pas de personne habitant dans la même ville, ça serait pas très logique comme condition en effet ;)
Je ne parle bien sûr pas de personne habitant dans la même ville, ça serait pas très logique comme condition en effet ;)
Bonsoir et merci,
ca fera une difficultee en moins!
A bientot pour d´autres informations, je l´espere!
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tu vas dans une agence de voyage et tu fais une résa et tu prends l'imprimé. une fois le visa obtenu tu annule ou tu laisse dépasser l'option de date
Bonsoir, j´aurais egalement la possibilite d´obtenir une lettre d´invitation d´une chinoise, a ce moment je n´aurais pas un "visa pour touristes" mais un "visa de visite d´amis"; est ce que vous pensez que ca peut poser des problemes (limitations dans mes deplacements, eventuellement impossibilite de rentrer au Tibet)? En Allemagne, toutes les agences qui organisent des visa, me disent quíl faut absolument une confirmation de l´achat du billet d´avion (une reservation n´est pas suffisante). Est ce que c´est peut etre different en France? Merci pour tous vos conseils et a bientot!
Bonsoir, j´aurais egalement la possibilite d´obtenir une lettre d´invitation d´une chinoise, a ce moment je n´aurais pas un "visa pour touristes" mais un "visa de visite d´amis"; est ce que vous pensez que ca peut poser des problemes (limitations dans mes deplacements, eventuellement impossibilite de rentrer au Tibet)? En Allemagne, toutes les agences qui organisent des visa, me disent quíl faut absolument une confirmation de l´achat du billet d´avion (une reservation n´est pas suffisante). Est ce que c´est peut etre different en France? Merci pour tous vos conseils et a bientot!
Bonjour,
Article paru lors d'une discussion ouverte sur ce forum, concernant les immolations de moines tibétains.
La Chine ferme le Tibet aux touristes AFP Publié le 06/06/2012 à 11:44 Réactions (7) TweetRecommanderLes autorités chinoises ont fermé le Tibet aux visiteurs étrangers, ont annoncé aujourd'hui des agences de voyage, dix jours après l'immolation par le feu de deux Tibétains.
Cette mesure a été prise alors que vient de débuter un festival qui voit traditionnellement un afflux de touristes dans la région himalayenne placée sous étroite surveillance depuis une éruption de violences antichinoises en mars 2008.
Un interdiction qui serait liée au festival de Saga Dawa Plusieurs agences de voyage ont indiqué que les autorités du tourisme du Tibet leur avaient signifié fin mai que les touristes étrangers ne seraient pas autorisés à se rendre dans la Région autonome du sud-ouest de la Chine.
"Le Bureau du tourisme nous a demandé d'arrêter d'organiser des tours pour des groupes étrangers au Tibet fin mai. Nous ne savons pas quand cette mesure sera levée", a déclaré une employée du Tibet China International Tour Service.
Une autre agence a indiqué que cette interdiction pouvait être liée au festival de Saga Dawa, qui célèbre la naissance du Bouddha dans le calendrier tibétain.
La Chine ferme épisodiquement le Tibet en période de tensions où quand elle craint des troubles dans cette région où de nombreux Tibétains se plaignent de la répression de leur culture et de leur religion.
Après les émeutes de 2008 les touristes étrangers avaient été empêchés de se rendre au Tibet pendant plus d'un an.
Quand les étrangers peuvent y aller, ils ont besoin d'un permis spécial et ont l'obligation de voyager en groupe.
Depuis mars 2011, 37 Tibétains se sont immolés par le feu ou ont tenté de le faire dans les zones tibétaines des provinces chinoises avoisinantes, selon les organisations de défense des droits de l'Homme.
Article paru lors d'une discussion ouverte sur ce forum, concernant les immolations de moines tibétains.
La Chine ferme le Tibet aux touristes AFP Publié le 06/06/2012 à 11:44 Réactions (7) TweetRecommanderLes autorités chinoises ont fermé le Tibet aux visiteurs étrangers, ont annoncé aujourd'hui des agences de voyage, dix jours après l'immolation par le feu de deux Tibétains.
Cette mesure a été prise alors que vient de débuter un festival qui voit traditionnellement un afflux de touristes dans la région himalayenne placée sous étroite surveillance depuis une éruption de violences antichinoises en mars 2008.
Un interdiction qui serait liée au festival de Saga Dawa Plusieurs agences de voyage ont indiqué que les autorités du tourisme du Tibet leur avaient signifié fin mai que les touristes étrangers ne seraient pas autorisés à se rendre dans la Région autonome du sud-ouest de la Chine.
"Le Bureau du tourisme nous a demandé d'arrêter d'organiser des tours pour des groupes étrangers au Tibet fin mai. Nous ne savons pas quand cette mesure sera levée", a déclaré une employée du Tibet China International Tour Service.
Une autre agence a indiqué que cette interdiction pouvait être liée au festival de Saga Dawa, qui célèbre la naissance du Bouddha dans le calendrier tibétain.
La Chine ferme épisodiquement le Tibet en période de tensions où quand elle craint des troubles dans cette région où de nombreux Tibétains se plaignent de la répression de leur culture et de leur religion.
Après les émeutes de 2008 les touristes étrangers avaient été empêchés de se rendre au Tibet pendant plus d'un an.
Quand les étrangers peuvent y aller, ils ont besoin d'un permis spécial et ont l'obligation de voyager en groupe.
Depuis mars 2011, 37 Tibétains se sont immolés par le feu ou ont tenté de le faire dans les zones tibétaines des provinces chinoises avoisinantes, selon les organisations de défense des droits de l'Homme.
"Voyager ne sert pas beaucoup à comprendre mais à réactiver pendant un instant l’usage des yeux : la lecture du monde".
Italo Calvino, Collection de sable (1984)
Bonsoir, merci pour les infos, j´en avais aussi juste entendu parle!
On ne peut qu´esperer que ca ne durera pas trop longtemps!
A bientot!
Je confirme ..la veille de Saga wada à Darchen, nous avions fini la Kora du kailash, police et armée en nombre !!!
des pèlerins venus d'Inde ..mais pas de pèlerins Tibétains ou presque !!! depuis les incidents de Lhasa , les chinois ont vraiment serré la vis !!
Bonjour,
Je vois que cette conversation date un peu mais vous pourrez sans doute me répondre ou me faire part de vos expériences...
J'envisage de faire le même parcours Chine-Tibet-Népal avec sortie de Chine par voie terrestre mais je ne sais pas sur quel site trouver les fameux billets 100% annulables et remboursables.
Pour l'instant le mieux que j'ai trouvé c'était 200euros non remboursable (donc pas question) ou dans les 350-400 euros avec des retenues entre 30 et 60 euros (ça pourrait le faire mais ça fait une sacrée somme à avancer... nous sommes 2 et avons un budget serré). D'ailleurs à ce propos, je n'ai jamais encore fait annuler de billet d'avion, le remboursement est-il rapide? Auriez-vous des sites ou des agences à me recommander? Merci d'avance!!!
Pour l'instant le mieux que j'ai trouvé c'était 200euros non remboursable (donc pas question) ou dans les 350-400 euros avec des retenues entre 30 et 60 euros (ça pourrait le faire mais ça fait une sacrée somme à avancer... nous sommes 2 et avons un budget serré). D'ailleurs à ce propos, je n'ai jamais encore fait annuler de billet d'avion, le remboursement est-il rapide? Auriez-vous des sites ou des agences à me recommander? Merci d'avance!!!
Bonjour,
désolé je ne travaille plus en Chine et donc je ne sais pas si les règles ont changé concernant l'entrée et la sortie du Tibet.
Pour les agences, choisis en une qui est sur place car si tu en choisis une autre, elle fera appel à une agence sur place et se prendra une marge dessus donc ça ne te sera pas favorable. J'en ai pas à te proposer par contre désolé (L'agence dans laquelle je travaillais était à Shanghai...)
Bon voyage !
désolé je ne travaille plus en Chine et donc je ne sais pas si les règles ont changé concernant l'entrée et la sortie du Tibet.
Pour les agences, choisis en une qui est sur place car si tu en choisis une autre, elle fera appel à une agence sur place et se prendra une marge dessus donc ça ne te sera pas favorable. J'en ai pas à te proposer par contre désolé (L'agence dans laquelle je travaillais était à Shanghai...)
Bon voyage !
Bonjour,
je vois que vous êtes allée au Tibet et au Népal l'année dernière, comment se sont passées les formalités d'entrée dans le pays ? Avez-vous pu avoir un visa facilement pour la Chine, et un permis Tibet ? Comment se passe le passage de la frontière de la Chine au Tibet, peut-on constituer un groupe facilement directement sur place ? Merci d'avance !
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As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie