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Bonjour tout le monde,
Une question un peu bizarre (peut-être...) : est-il possible de visiter Ellis Island SANS visiter la statue de la liberté?
Merci pour vos réponses!
georges
Visiter Ellis Island sans visiter la statue de la Liberté (New York)
by Georgesleg
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
oui c'est tout a fait possible .
Merci pour la réponse, superrrrrapide!! :-)
Et concrètement, s'agit-il de deux excursions différentes, ou bien prend-on le même bateau?
Est-ce combinable avec Staten Island?
georges
ellis island et statue de la liberté c'est le même bateau.
Par contre staten island c'est un ferry different.
Bonjour Georges,
En complément de ce qu i t'a déjà été dit
En fait, il s'agit d'une navette fait NY-Statue de la Liberté-Ellis Island-New York. Ton billet d'accès n'est contrôlé qu'au départ et tu n'a pas à le justifier à chaque étape. Elle s'arrête d'abord à la Statue de la liberté, débarque les visiteurs et rembarque ceux qui ont visité pour ensuite aller vers Ellis et débarquer les personnes qui veulent visiter et récupérer ceux qui ont visité pour les ramener sur NY.
Quand tu es dans la navette, tu n'es pas obligé de descendre à chaque étape et tu peux sans soucis rester dans le bateau à la Statue de la liberté pour aller directement à Ellis Island.
Ceci expliqué, je trouverais dommage de ne pas s'arrêter visiter la Statue de la Liberté. Comme il y a une navette toutes les 20 à 40mn selon la saison tu peux visiter rapidement sans trop perdre de temps.
Cordialement, Caussat
En complément de ce qu i t'a déjà été dit
En fait, il s'agit d'une navette fait NY-Statue de la Liberté-Ellis Island-New York. Ton billet d'accès n'est contrôlé qu'au départ et tu n'a pas à le justifier à chaque étape. Elle s'arrête d'abord à la Statue de la liberté, débarque les visiteurs et rembarque ceux qui ont visité pour ensuite aller vers Ellis et débarquer les personnes qui veulent visiter et récupérer ceux qui ont visité pour les ramener sur NY.
Quand tu es dans la navette, tu n'es pas obligé de descendre à chaque étape et tu peux sans soucis rester dans le bateau à la Statue de la liberté pour aller directement à Ellis Island.
Ceci expliqué, je trouverais dommage de ne pas s'arrêter visiter la Statue de la Liberté. Comme il y a une navette toutes les 20 à 40mn selon la saison tu peux visiter rapidement sans trop perdre de temps.
Cordialement, Caussat
Bonsoir,
Et un grand merci pour ces explications!
Je n'étais pas sûr d'avoir bien compris, mais là, ça y est, c'est super clair!!
Bonne soirée
georges
Nikoniste, oui, mais... je ne comprends pas!
Je n'écris cela nulle part!!!!
georges
Bonjour
Petite precision importante, en partant de Battery Park, la navette vous laissera à la Statue de la Liberté. Vous devrez emprunter une autre navette pour vous rendre à Ellis Island. Pas d’inquietude, les horaires sont affichés.
soluiiton pas chère: le bac pour staten island, compris comme un arrêt de métro
tu passes de la statue , au terminus tu changes de coté (à la gauche du bateau) repassage devant la statue .
si tu fais cela en fin d am sur as super coucher de soleil sur manhattan en retrant
tu passes de la statue , au terminus tu changes de coté (à la gauche du bateau) repassage devant la statue .
si tu fais cela en fin d am sur as super coucher de soleil sur manhattan en retrant
Merci pour l'info.
J'avais lu que le ferry faisait la boucle: d'abord la statue, puis ellis puis retour.
Non?
georges
Je suis plutot en desaccord avec Atavera .
A moins qu'il y'ai eu changement ,
Staten island a son propre ferry que l'on prend à south ferry
Ellis island/statue de la liberté : même ferry qui fait une boucle au depart de battery park
Staten island a son propre ferry que l'on prend à south ferry
Ellis island/statue de la liberté : même ferry qui fait une boucle au depart de battery park
Bonsoir Seb
Pas de confusion, mais une precision. Il faut bien changer de navette à Liberty Island pour rejoindre Ellis Island avec un depart de Battery Park.
Ellis Island est le premier débarquement en venant de Liberty State Park(New Jersey).puis vous pouvez vous rendre à Liberty Island ou revenir à votre point initial.
Le Ferry de Staten Island croise au large de Liberty Island et est accessible au sud Manhattan du South Ferry Terminal. Rotation entièrement gratuite. Pourquoi ne pas en profiter pour voir le Memorial du 11/09.
Cordialement Jimmie Johnson Fan #48
Pas de confusion, mais une precision. Il faut bien changer de navette à Liberty Island pour rejoindre Ellis Island avec un depart de Battery Park.
Ellis Island est le premier débarquement en venant de Liberty State Park(New Jersey).puis vous pouvez vous rendre à Liberty Island ou revenir à votre point initial.
Le Ferry de Staten Island croise au large de Liberty Island et est accessible au sud Manhattan du South Ferry Terminal. Rotation entièrement gratuite. Pourquoi ne pas en profiter pour voir le Memorial du 11/09.
Cordialement Jimmie Johnson Fan #48
Bonsoir,
Le schema est bien clair
Battery park………Liberty Island
Liberty Island……Ellis Island
Bon séjour
Bon séjour
Merci!
Mais je ne vois pas de trace de changement sur ce fameux schéma...
georges
bonsoir,
reprenez le lien envoyé par seb
donc départ de Manhattan/Battery Park suivez les pointillés qui vous mèneront jusqu'à Liberty Island vous débarquez et un plus loin sur votre droite vous avez l'embarquement pour Ellis Island
pas de panique, c'est l' Amérique, tout est bien organisé et indiqué.
reprenez le lien envoyé par seb
donc départ de Manhattan/Battery Park suivez les pointillés qui vous mèneront jusqu'à Liberty Island vous débarquez et un plus loin sur votre droite vous avez l'embarquement pour Ellis Island
pas de panique, c'est l' Amérique, tout est bien organisé et indiqué.
Désolé, (et sans vouloir polémiquer 🙂 ) mais je ne vois nulle part sur le schéma qu'il faille débarquer et prendre un autre ferry!
georges
Re
Je n’ai pas d’autre argument pour vous convaincre. Suivez les instructions et tout ira bien.
Bon séjour
Bonjour Georges,
Nous avions pris le ferry à Battery Park pour visiter Ellis Island et Liberty Island en 2012 : en juillet, il y avait beaucoup de monde, nous avons un peu attendu avant d’embarquer. Nous avons donc préféré ne pas descendre sur l’ile de la statue de la liberté, pour éviter de re faire la queue pour reprendre le ferry suivant jusqu’à Ellis Island. Donc on est resté sur le même ferry jusqu’à Ellis Island. Une majorité de gens est descendue sur Liberty Island, et les personnes qui y étaient arrivées avec un ferry précédant sont remontées à bord jusqu’à Ellis Island.
A vérifier que cela n’a pas changé, mais je ne pense pas : Des amis ont fait la même chose l’annee dernière.
Nous avions pris le ferry à Battery Park pour visiter Ellis Island et Liberty Island en 2012 : en juillet, il y avait beaucoup de monde, nous avons un peu attendu avant d’embarquer. Nous avons donc préféré ne pas descendre sur l’ile de la statue de la liberté, pour éviter de re faire la queue pour reprendre le ferry suivant jusqu’à Ellis Island. Donc on est resté sur le même ferry jusqu’à Ellis Island. Une majorité de gens est descendue sur Liberty Island, et les personnes qui y étaient arrivées avec un ferry précédant sont remontées à bord jusqu’à Ellis Island.
A vérifier que cela n’a pas changé, mais je ne pense pas : Des amis ont fait la même chose l’annee dernière.
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Merci Frédérique pour ces précisions.
Qui confirment bien ce que je pensais!
Bonne journée
georges
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Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!