Je voudrais visiter le fameux Tiger Temple et je suis à Bangkok. Mais toutes les agences me proposent 500baths pour faire l'aller retour en minivan et ne rester que 2h30. Sachant que je dois payer en plus l'entrée qui est de 500Baths. Soit le total 1000 Baths, je trouve ca cher. Est-il possible d'y aller par d'autres moyens soit de Bangkok, soit de Ayutthaya, ou d'une autre ville à côté pour moins cher?
Et est-ce que ça en vaut vraiment la peine? Car je voyage en petit budget.
Merci.
N'y aller que pour le temple des tigre n'en vaut pas la peine, il est plus intéressant d'aller voir le pont de la rivière Kwai, les chutes d'Erawan et la région de Kanchanaburi en même temps avec, pourquoi pas, un petit tour en train ou une ballade en éléphant au Ganesha parc par exemple entre autres 😉
Je me doute que c'est une usine à touristes, mais d'un autre coté caresser des "gros chats" c'est bien tentant...
Vous pensez que ce n'est pas possible d'y aller a moins de payer 500baths de transport et 500baths d'entrée? Si c'est le cas, je vais zapper. Si je peux l'avoir moins cher par mes propres moyens, pourquoi pas...
Bonjour,
Pour le transport, 500 bahts depuis bkk aller-retour en minibus n'est pas un si mauvais prix.
Avec ses propres moyens, tu va juste économiser 100/200 bahts max et tu va mettre bcp plus de temps aussi
Et depuis la bus station de Kan, aucun bus ne te laissera directement au tiger temple, mais au bord de la national, a environ 2/3 km, si c'est pas un peu plus.
Pour en revenir au tiger temple, j'ai vu là-bas les plus beau...pick up que j'avais jamais vu en Thailande !
Il y a pratiquement que des farangs qui y travaille , dès l'entrée aux caisses et un peu partout a l'interieur du site et (aussi) quelques moines bien sur.
C'est le site que j'ai le plus detesté visiter en Thailande, c'était en janvier 2008.
Je suis du même avis que Boumbastic, cela ne vaut pas le coup de faire l'aller et retour de Bangkok uniquement pour le temple des tigres, une attraction pompe à fric. Cela fait une longue et chère journée juste pour avoir le frisson de toucher un malheureux tigre, sans doute aussi un tigre malheureux.
Tu ne pourras pas vraiment les caresser mais prendre une photo avec eux soit 10 secondes chrono!....En étant quelques jours dans la région pourquoi pas mais faire le déplacement uniquement pour ça...Il vaut mieux une baignade à crue sur un éléphant ou se faire mordiller les pieds par les poissons à Erawan!
salut moi j i suis aller en janvier 2010 en scoot au depart de kanchanabury...sait moyen , mais bon si tu ve approcher des tigres une fois dans ta vie , pourquoi pas , sache que tu as un temple de tigre a chang mai ou tu peut les voir de prés , aussi...j ai fait les deux..
je te met mon blog avec toutes les explications.
a+++ bon week end..
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sache que tu as un temple de tigre a chang mai ou tu peut les voir de prés , aussi
Bonjour ,
Justement en parlant du temple de tigre à Chiang Maï , fin 2008 ou début 2009 une anglaise en a fait les frais un des tigres l'a violemment mordu au bras conclusion 75 points de suture , ils en ont pas parler dans la presse thaï . 🤪
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
je comprend ton opinion et il faut bien sur informer sur les risques...ect.je n et pas lu l article et peu etre que j aurais plus hesitais a y aller ...
par contre pour les accidents , il faut rester sur ses gardes et ne pas faire comme certain tourist qui ce croit a disneyland...ect...sa peu faire baisser un peu le risque..j ai vu des trucs completements idiot fait par des tourist...
par contre pour les accidents , il faut rester sur ses gardes et ne pas faire comme certain tourist qui ce croit a disneyland...ect...sa peu faire baisser un peu le risque..j ai vu des trucs completements idiot fait par des tourist...
Oui ça il y en aura toujours jusqu'au jour ou . 🤪 Comme tu dis il faut toujours rester sur ses gardes et pas faire le malin .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Aller visiter ce zoo c'est cautionner les trafic des tigres qui sert à alimenter ces lieux, y compris le célèbre temple aux tigres. Les animaux y meurent rapidement de maltraitance et de drogue. Ils sont alors remplacés par d'autres tigres braconnés dans les pays limitrophes. Je ne parle même pas des accidents régulièrement passés sur silence, ce n'est pas pour rien que l'on vous fait signer une décharge à l'entrée. Si vous aimez les tigres évitez ces endroits. C'est votre argent, votre caresse furtive et la photo souvenir qui génère l'odieux trafic de cet animal en voie d'extinction.
Ceux qui veulent peuvent lire l'article qui suit :
"Un rapport publié par Care for the Wild International (CWI) identifie les Tigres du Temple de la Thaïlande comme impliquées dans des transactions illégales d'échange et de la faune et de cruauté envers les animaux.
Après le monde de "Animal Planet", diffusion d'un documentaire en deux parties sur le "Tigre Temple" de Kanchanaburi en Thaïlande, ce centre est devenu une populaire attraction touristique internationale. Le succès du "Tigre du Temple" s'explique par le fait que ces tigres ont été "sauvés de braconnages et vivent et errent librement et pacifiquement" dans le temple de moines bouddhistes
Toutefois, poussé par des préoccupations exprimées par les touristes et les travailleurs bénévoles, une enquête menée par le CWI a révélé les preuves d'un certain nombre de fautes graves de détention et de bien-être de ces animaux, sur la base des informations recueillies entre 2005 et 2008.
Un rapport publié le 20 Juin révèle l'inquiétante preuve d'abus de ces animaux et le trafic illicite de tigres à un ensemble de la Thaïlande pour distraire les touristes.
Le rapport porte sur une période de deux ans d'enquête portant sur la conduite du personnel du "Tiger Temple" à Kanchanaburi.
Jusqu'à 300 touristes internationaux visitent cette installation chaque jour, mais stimulé par la diffusion d'un documentaire sur Animal Planet, les chiffres atteignent près de 900 touristes par jours.
Le Dr Barbara Maas du CWI dit, "la popularité du Temple est basée autour de ses revendications à savoir que les tigres ont été sauvés de braconniers et circulent librement et pacifiquement parmi les moines du temple, qui sont activement engagés dans les travaux de conservation. Utopique ! Cette façade cache une sinistre réalité de violence effrénée et de trafic illicite de tigres entre la Thaïlande et le Laos. "
Environ 15 tigres vivent au Temple toute l'année. Détenus dans de mauvaises conditions de logement, d'élevage et maltraités.
Loin d'avoir la possibilité de se déplacer librement, les tigres sont confinés pendant 20 heures par jour, loin de la vue du public dans de petites cages en béton stérile, dont les dimensions sont de 31,5 m2 à 37,3 m2. Cela reste en deçà de la législation de 500m2 pour un couple ou une mère et ses petits. Le personnel a aussi régulièrement battu les adultes et les petits tigres avec des batons et des barres de métal.
En conséquence, les tigres souffrent de troubles du comportement et de problèmes physiques, comprenant la claudication, déformations du squelette et des stéréotypes comportementaux, tels que le va-et-vient et l'auto-mutilation. Ces plaintes sont encore aggravées par la malnutrition et les maigres soins vétérinaires.
Le Directeur du CWI de l'Asie du Sud-Est, Guna Subramaniam dit, "Interagir étroitement avec des tigres est la principale attraction qui attire des touristes dans le Temple. Chaque jour entre 13h et 16h, une dizaine de tigres sont enchaînés dans le Temple" Tiger Canyon », où les visiteurs payent, y compris les jeunes enfants, et peuvent les toucher, s'asseoir ou s'allonger sur des animaux à l'avant ou à l'arrière. Pour une nouvelle somme, ils peuvent aussi avoir leur photo. Le personnel maintiennent en place les tigres avec de lourds boulets. Les Tigres sont également tirés à leur place par la queue et parfois par des coups de poing, coups de pied ou battus pour les rendre obéissants."
Une opératrice de la faune Thaïlandaise affirme avoir vendu au temple son premier tigre. CWI a également obtenu la preuve que, plutôt que de sauvetages de tigres orphelins, le Temple fonctionne comme élevage illégal et est impliqué dans l'échange clandestin de tigres avec le propriétaire d'une ferme agricole de tigres au Laos. Les sources CWI sur Tiger Temple révèlent qu' un minimum de sept tigres comptabilisés dans les brochures du Temple en 2005 et 2007 ont disparu, tout au moins cinq. Personnes ne semblaient avoir d' explication. "Ce sont surtout des animaux plus âgés qui ont été envoyés au Laos, en échange de petits jeunes", explique le Dr Maas. Ces actions sont contraires à la fois locales et internationales en vertu de la CITES (Convention sur le commerce international des espèces menacées d'extinction).
"Certains des nouveaux tigres ont reçu le même nom que la protection des animaux qui ont été exportés vers le Laos. Ils ont occulté le fait que les tigres sont en cours de transfert et de sorties, et laisse croire que le Temple des tigres sauve la vie de ces tigres."
Il ne possède pas de licence de reproduction, mais au moins dix petits y sont nés. En l'absence d'informations sur les tigres, la plupart sinon tous les descendants sont susceptibles d'être hybrides. Pour cette seule raison, le Temple de tigres n'est pas adapté comme élevage reconnu des programmes de conservation. Une autre préoccupation est que la libération des tigres qui sont utilisés pour la proximité est dangereuse et potentiellement mortelle pour l'homme, le bétail et ces tigres eux-mêmes, et ils risquent de ne pas survivre.
Le rapport de CWI soulève également des préoccupations sur la sécurité des visiteurs. Il existe de nombreux documents montrant des attaques mortelles sur l'homme dans les moments de «formation» et, y compris au cours de séances photos. Toutefois, le personnel du Temple ne parvient pas à empêcher le contact direct, même si les tigres sont agressifs.
Lorsqu'on leur a demandé pourquoi les touristes ne sont pas mordus, l'Abbé a répondu: "Ils veulent mordre. Un jour, ils vont mordre. "Le Temple dégage expressément toute responsabilité concernant les blessures et prie les visiteurs de signer une clause de non-responsabilité à l'entrée.
"Il ne fait aucun doute que les touristes venus de Grande-Bretagne, d' Europe et des États-Unis pour visiter le Tiger Temple le fontparce qu'ils sont passionnés de tigres, " dit le Dr Maas."Mais contrairement à ce que croient les visiteurs, le Tiger Temple n'oeuvre pas pour la protection et la sauvegarde de ces tigres. Ils ne seront jamais relâchés.
"CWI est alarmé par les problèmes du bien-être animal, la diffusion de fausses revendications, les risques aigus pour la sécurité des visiteurs au Temple Tiger Kanchanaburi, c'est en fait un parc à thème sordide qui exploite l'une des espèces les plus menacées de cette planète.
"CWI a rencontré l'abbé du Temple afin de s'entretenir au sujet de ces problèmes et d'entrevoir une solution. Toutefois, l'Abbé était réticent à négocier et n'a montré aucun intérêt pour la réforme », a déclaré Guna Subramaniam.
CWI recommande que le Département des parcs nationaux de Thaïlande punisse le Temple pour détention illégale de tigres et de transférer ces tigres vers un sanctuaire, où les animaux pourront être logés convenablement et soignés de façon appropriée.
CWI a repéré un établissement en Thaïlande et offre son soutien pour cette opération. "
pour les petites vieilles( piquer leur portefeuille..ect..), " sa ne se fait pas , " parle pour toi...lol .. 😛
exact on n'a pas la même philosophie ..
j ai vu des trucs completements idiot fait par des tourist...
parce que c'est intelligent d'y aller?
ne pas y aller est un acte personnel .. et responsable, y aller c'est tomber dans un piège bien montée et bien ficeler dont les premières victimes sont les animaux ..
solution pour les apprentis dompteurs en herbes aller tripoter les bébés tigres du zoo de sircha ..
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Merci jedit2 pour le long message. En fait je me doutais que c'était un truc à touristes, mais je ne m'attendais pas à ça. C'est pire que ce que je croyais. Je pensais que les moines essayaient vraiment d'aider les tigres et que l'argent provenant des touristes était utilisé pour les nourrir, et en prendre soin. Je me suis fier à l'avis d'un guide de voyage connu dont je ne citerais pas le nom et qui commence par L, et qui en faisait une belle publicité également. Ce que je cherchais c'était de savoir si ça en valait la peine ou non. Ton message m'a calmé et je t'en remercie, je n'irais donc pas. Cependant, j'ai l'esprit critique et je ne veux pas m'emballer dans un sens ou dans l'autre. Car ton article me parait un peu trop extrême. 900 personnes par jour à 500 baths la personne, ça fait 450.000 baths, soit 10.000 euros par jour, j'ai du mal à le croire.
Et mince sont des moines tout de même dans un pays très bouddhiste! Dans un temple en plus! Ok, les thailandais aiment l'argent (ce ne sont pas les seuls), ils peuvent être un peu filou sur les bords, mais de là à faire du traffic de tigre, dans un temple, avec des moines!!!! Je ne veux pas y croire!
Mais en conclusion, je pense que la vérité se trouve entre les 2, et dans le doute, je préfère m'abstenir plutôt que de participer. Il est possible qu'à l'origine ça partait d'un bon sentiment, mais on sait tous les dégats que peuvent provoquer le tourisme et je pense qu'on est en plein dedans.
je préfère m'abstenir c'est la ou on vois les personnes responsables .. il y a le même cas dans le nord de la thailande avec le zoo humain .
il faut être réaliste . es que ses tigres sont heureux ? n'est pas le but que de les voir ( enfin de tres loin🤪 ) .. heureux ..
au lieux de les domestiquer jusqu'à l'abrutissement pour notre propre ego ...
quant au watt .. ils ont trouver un filon ils l'exploite ..
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Merci pour le conseil, je vais me renseigner et je vais peut être aller la bas.
Par contre, tigre apprivoisé ou pas, je ne suis pas assez folle pour rentrer dans une cage. J'ai encore besoin de mes 2 bras, ça peut toujours servir ;)
Non tu plaisantes? J'y ai été mais il y a 5 ans et je me souviens encore de cette ambiance. On ne devait être que 2/3 touristes à peine, il n'y avait pas un bruit, plus personne ne parlait. On regardait les photos, on marchait, on était mal à l'aise et on est tous reparti ensuite dans le silence. Et je n'ai vu aucun "magasins à souvenirs".
Une des scènes qui m'a marqué c'est lorsqu'un ancien jeune khmer rouge devenu adulte entre dans une des salles et par automatisme/conditionnement, il se met à refaire tous les gestes froidement telle une machine.
Si tu veux réellement voir des photos à l`intétieur de la cage , donne moi ton adresse e-mail .
désolée l'ami je suis un partisan des anti cages pour animaux qui n'ont rien fait .. et qui sont victime de leur beauté ..
je me contente de les apprécier dans ses supers documentaires ou on les vois dans leur vrai vie .. et cela m'attriste de les voir emprisonné .. pour flatter l'ego et la curiosité de l'homme ..
Que on les montrait en public ou au cirque au XIX je comprend c'était la découverte de animaux mais depuis les choses ont changé .😉. sauf l'être humain qui na pas compris que la liberté na pas de prix ..
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Salut, j'ai visité le S21 en 1999, ça m'a fait le meme effet qu'à Auschwitz-Birkenau. Dur dur.
Et il n'y avait pas grand monde pour visiter, ça a peut etre changé.
Pour le temple du tigre, j'y suis allé mi janvier en scoot de Kanchanaburi, je me suis arreté à l'entrée et j'ai vite fait demi tour, et je ne regrette pas.
Je suis allé aux cascades d'Erawan, c'est bien mieux, car là au moins les poissons et les singes sont libres.
routard080
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Que pensez-vous de cet itinéraire? Arrivée à Siem Reap, départ de Phnom Penh
SR: 5 jours (1 jour pour l'arrivée, 3 pour les temples, 1 pour le lac et ses villages)
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Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 jours (1 jour de trajet, 1 jour sur place, 2 jours de treks)
PP: 3 jours (1 jour de trajet, 2 jours de visite)
Je pense qu'il faut que j'enlève un jour quelque part, si je pars du samedi au samedi, ou du dimanche au dimanche. A Kratie, peut-être? à PP? et je rate le trajet en bateau que tout le monde conseille (SR-Battambang), mais je ne vois pas où le caser. Sauf à faire un PP-PP en commençant par l'est, laisser tomber Kratie ou vraiment juste une nuit, puis SR, puis PP).
Dans mon timing, j'ai l'impression que le Mondolkiri est plus proche que le Ratanakiri, qui me tentait aussi beaucoup! Est-ce que cela restera pas trop compliqué toute seule? Je pense faire appel à des guides locaux, ou une petite agence locale, pour faire une escapade dans la nature et les villages.
Je lis qu'il y a beaucoup de monde à SR entre Noël et Nouvel An, je peux aussi faire le circuit dans l'autre sens. Mais je trouvais plus facile de me familiariser avec le pays en arrivant en territoire touristique, je me trompe peut-être...
Merci pour vos conseils et avis!
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices?
Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis?
What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc.
Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it?
Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like?
We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
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Feel free to contact us for her number.
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Hi there,
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After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days.
I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome!
I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips:
Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred.
PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront).
Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
