Voyage Johannesburg - Botswana - chutes Victoria - Namibie - Cape Town
by Diamina
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
A Johannesburg, vu que tu as programmé pas mal de temps, la visite d'un lieu lié au passé minier de la ville serait peut être intéressante ?
Si tu as plus d'infos, ça m'intéresse. Les 3 jours à Johannesburg prévus pour le moment viennent du fait que si nous ne faisons pas escale à Paris (comme le suggérait caperam) pour récupérer, il va falloir qu'on récupère à Johannesburg. Aucun de nous 2 n'arrive à dormir dans l'avion, donc...... ça va vraiment être galère.
Mais si nous irons à Etosha. Mon mari est entrain de se renseigner sur les appareils photos pour photographier des animaux, j'peux pas lui faire rater etosha!!! La dernière fois je t'ai mis ce qui m'intéresse moi, j'avais juste oublié ce qui intéressait mon mari, oups!!!!! Or, nous serons 2 à voyager!!!!!!!!
Voici le planning,
J1=26-juil. arrivée à WINDHOEK Londiningi B&B
J2 =27-juil. OTJIWARANGO hadassa guest house, école peri naua
J3= 28-juil. OTJIWARANGO Hadassa Guesthouse, CCF
J4= 29-juil. ETOSHA NWR Namutoni ?
J5 =30-juil. ETOSHA NWR Halali ?
J6 =31-juil. ETOSHA NWR Okaukuejo ?
J7 =1 août. KAMANJAB Oppi Koppi (est-ce nécessaire?)
J8= 2-août PALMWAG Palmwag Lodge
J9 =3-août BRANDBERG Brandberg White Lady Lodge
J10 =4-août SPITZKOPPE Spitzkoppe Camp
J11= 5-août SWAKOPMUND The Stiltz
J12= 6-août swakopmund the stiltz
J13 =7-août SESRIEM Sossus Dune Lodge
J14= 8-août SESRIEM NWR Sossus Dune Lodge au cas ou tour en avion ou mongolfière
J15 =9-août NAUKLUFT Koimasis Farm-Lodge "Fest Inn Fels"
J16 =10-août LUDERITZ Island Cottage
J17 =11-août AUS Klein Aus Vista
J18 = 12-août FISH RIVER CANYON nuit dans la voiture camping sauvage
J19= 13-août ?
J20 =14-août augrabies falls
J21= 15-août twee rivieren
J22 =16-août nossob ou KTC si changement accepté
23 17-août mata mata réservation déjà effectuée
J24 =18-août MARIENTAL Anib Lodge?
J25 = 19-août WINDHOEK aéroport vers cape town
Bon, j'espère que ça court moins maintenant. Concernant les himbas, je crois que ça ferait plaisir à mon mari de pouvoir les photographier....... 😊😕
A bientôt!
Si tu as plus d'infos, ça m'intéresse. Les 3 jours à Johannesburg prévus pour le moment viennent du fait que si nous ne faisons pas escale à Paris (comme le suggérait caperam) pour récupérer, il va falloir qu'on récupère à Johannesburg. Aucun de nous 2 n'arrive à dormir dans l'avion, donc...... ça va vraiment être galère.
Mais si nous irons à Etosha. Mon mari est entrain de se renseigner sur les appareils photos pour photographier des animaux, j'peux pas lui faire rater etosha!!! La dernière fois je t'ai mis ce qui m'intéresse moi, j'avais juste oublié ce qui intéressait mon mari, oups!!!!! Or, nous serons 2 à voyager!!!!!!!!
Voici le planning,
J1=26-juil. arrivée à WINDHOEK Londiningi B&B
J2 =27-juil. OTJIWARANGO hadassa guest house, école peri naua
J3= 28-juil. OTJIWARANGO Hadassa Guesthouse, CCF
J4= 29-juil. ETOSHA NWR Namutoni ?
J5 =30-juil. ETOSHA NWR Halali ?
J6 =31-juil. ETOSHA NWR Okaukuejo ?
J7 =1 août. KAMANJAB Oppi Koppi (est-ce nécessaire?)
J8= 2-août PALMWAG Palmwag Lodge
J9 =3-août BRANDBERG Brandberg White Lady Lodge
J10 =4-août SPITZKOPPE Spitzkoppe Camp
J11= 5-août SWAKOPMUND The Stiltz
J12= 6-août swakopmund the stiltz
J13 =7-août SESRIEM Sossus Dune Lodge
J14= 8-août SESRIEM NWR Sossus Dune Lodge au cas ou tour en avion ou mongolfière
J15 =9-août NAUKLUFT Koimasis Farm-Lodge "Fest Inn Fels"
J16 =10-août LUDERITZ Island Cottage
J17 =11-août AUS Klein Aus Vista
J18 = 12-août FISH RIVER CANYON nuit dans la voiture camping sauvage
J19= 13-août ?
J20 =14-août augrabies falls
J21= 15-août twee rivieren
J22 =16-août nossob ou KTC si changement accepté
23 17-août mata mata réservation déjà effectuée
J24 =18-août MARIENTAL Anib Lodge?
J25 = 19-août WINDHOEK aéroport vers cape town
Bon, j'espère que ça court moins maintenant. Concernant les himbas, je crois que ça ferait plaisir à mon mari de pouvoir les photographier....... 😊😕
A bientôt!
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C'est vraiment l'enfance de l'art de préparer un voyage en Afrique australe, non?
Bon, je vais leur réécrire et leur dire de garder nossob......
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Mais si tu as réservé en ligne, tu peux tout modifier en ligne 😇
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
J'ai essayé de modifier en ligne et je n'ai pas réussi.
Chaque fois que je voulais réservé en ligne, il me demandait les infos sur ma carte de crédit pour payer, ou alors je n'ai pas trouvé le bon moyen...?????🤪
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Il faut pas faire une nouvelle réservation, mais modifier ta réservation existante ....
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
Deux secondes avant de filer au lit, étape du 1er août inutile.
Anne-Marie
Carnets : Namibie en camping car, l'Est de l'Afrique du Sud, du KTP au Kaokoland en 4x4, la Norvège en hiver 2x, l'Ecosse en hiver, la Namibie avec remorque, l'Islande en camping car en juin, le tout avec 4 enfants, dans le profil https://voyageforum.com/v.f?membre=Caperam;
Si tu as plus d'infos, ça m'intéresse
J'ai visité le musée de Kimberley. Je ne connais pas ceux de JNB (ça ? ou celle-ci ?). Il y a aussi la mine de diamant près de Prétoria.
Pour le reste je laisse les spécialistes de la partie centrale de Namibie répondre.
(Y a un camping à Fish River - Y a aussi ce lodge très bien)
J'ai visité le musée de Kimberley. Je ne connais pas ceux de JNB (ça ? ou celle-ci ?). Il y a aussi la mine de diamant près de Prétoria.
Pour le reste je laisse les spécialistes de la partie centrale de Namibie répondre.
(Y a un camping à Fish River - Y a aussi ce lodge très bien)
Quand j'ai fait les 2 nouvelles résas pour richtersveld et augrabies au tout début, j'ai essayé de faire comme tu dis, mais c'est là que le site me demandait les infos de ma carte de crédit pour payer. Je n'avais pas accès au crédit que j'avais chez eux pour payer. Voilà pourquoi j'ai envoyé un mail à sanparks pour qu'ils puissent s'occuper des modifications.
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Impressions d'Afrique et de Namibie
Bon, je vais leur réécrire et leur dire de garder nossob......
Le problème, c'est que tu réserves ou annules et qu'après tu nous demandes si c'est bon au lieu de faire l'inverse...😇
Le problème, c'est que tu réserves ou annules et qu'après tu nous demandes si c'est bon au lieu de faire l'inverse...😇
Le lodge dont tu parles me tente beaucoup, mais il est à 25km du bord du canyon. Comment faire alors pour assister au coucher du soleil? au lever du soleil? sans rouler dans le noir après ou avant?
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Je n'avais pas accès au crédit que j'avais chez eux pour payer.
Je pense que tu n'as accès à ton crédit en ligne que quand tes changements concernent le même parc (ça marche très bien dans ce cas).
Je pense que tu n'as accès à ton crédit en ligne que quand tes changements concernent le même parc (ça marche très bien dans ce cas).
Le problème, c'est que tu réserves ou annules et qu'après tu nous demandes si c'est bon au lieu de faire l'inverse..
Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa!!!! Tu faisais tellement de reproches à nossob, donc j'avais cru que c'était la pire calamité qui soit!!!!!!!...... Bon, attendons lundi, on verra bien.
Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa!!!! Tu faisais tellement de reproches à nossob, donc j'avais cru que c'était la pire calamité qui soit!!!!!!!...... Bon, attendons lundi, on verra bien.
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Comment faire alors pour assister au coucher du soleil? au lever du soleil?
J'avais regardé le soleil se coucher depuis la piscine de ce lodge...😊
(Pour le lever, j'pourrais pas dire, je dormais !😄)
J'avais regardé le soleil se coucher depuis la piscine de ce lodge...😊
(Pour le lever, j'pourrais pas dire, je dormais !😄)
Ce n'est qu'un premier jet. Modifiez, modifiez..... Il n'y a rien de réserver en Namibie pour le moment.
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Tu faisais tellement de reproches à nossob, donc j'avais cru que c'était la pire calamité qui soit!!!!!!!...
C'était la calamité dans les premiers parcours projetés : trop de route-pas le temps de profiter du parc-risque d'arriver trop tard.
Dans un parcours équilibré, c'est un camp aux bungalows qui sont atroces en été(en hiver, ça devrait être juste pas terrible parce que pas très choucard ...😉) mais qui est incontournable si on veut avoir un point de vue de l'ensemble du parc.
C'était la calamité dans les premiers parcours projetés : trop de route-pas le temps de profiter du parc-risque d'arriver trop tard.
Dans un parcours équilibré, c'est un camp aux bungalows qui sont atroces en été(en hiver, ça devrait être juste pas terrible parce que pas très choucard ...😉) mais qui est incontournable si on veut avoir un point de vue de l'ensemble du parc.
j'avais regardé le soleil se coucher depuis la piscine de ce lodge...
Hilarant!!!!😏 Euh, vu la période hivernale à laquelle nous serons la-bas, je ne suis pas très sûre d'utiliser la piscine, et moi, je pensais surtout au coucher de soleil au dessus des bords du canyon......😉
Hilarant!!!!😏 Euh, vu la période hivernale à laquelle nous serons la-bas, je ne suis pas très sûre d'utiliser la piscine, et moi, je pensais surtout au coucher de soleil au dessus des bords du canyon......😉
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23 17-août mata mata réservation déjà effectuée
Tu as réservé les avec vue ?
Tu as réservé les avec vue ?
et moi, je pensais surtout au coucher de soleil au dessus des bords du canyon......😉
Tu regardes le soleil se coucher au bord du canyon- Tu reviens de nuit au lodge (Y a pas d'éléphants dans ce coin sauf roses si tu conduis et bois en même temps...😏)- Tu te réveilles au son du clairon pour admirer l'aurore depuis le lodge et tu vas te recoucher !😉
Tu regardes le soleil se coucher au bord du canyon- Tu reviens de nuit au lodge (Y a pas d'éléphants dans ce coin sauf roses si tu conduis et bois en même temps...😏)- Tu te réveilles au son du clairon pour admirer l'aurore depuis le lodge et tu vas te recoucher !😉
Tu regardes le soleil se coucher au bord du canyon- Tu reviens de nuit au lodge (Y a pas d'éléphants dans ce coin sauf roses si tu conduis et bois en même temps...😏)- Tu te réveilles au son du clairon pour admirer l'aurore depuis le lodge et tu vas te recoucher !
ok. Pour ce qui concerne le son du clairon, je vais emmener ma flûte alto et je vais tâcher d'occuper la fonction du clairon pour le reste de l'hotel. Je connais l'intro d'un morceau de Eugène Mona qui est vraiment sympa. Je suis certaine que les clients en seraient ravis.
ok. Pour ce qui concerne le son du clairon, je vais emmener ma flûte alto et je vais tâcher d'occuper la fonction du clairon pour le reste de l'hotel. Je connais l'intro d'un morceau de Eugène Mona qui est vraiment sympa. Je suis certaine que les clients en seraient ravis.
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Faut essayer! 😉
Tu as réservé les avec vue ?
Bah, quand j'ai réservé il n'y avait déjà plus de choix! J'ai pris ce qui restait dans les 2 cas.
A nossob, un chalet ch4 prévu pour 4 personnes mais avec seulement 2 lits mais avec 2 stack beds pour enfants!!!! A mata mata rest camp , un chalet FCH6 prévu pour 6 personnes COMPORTANT 2 CHAMBRES, chacune avec 2 lits!!!!! Et il y a 2 lits dans le salon!!! Nous pourrons même nous offrir le luxe de faire chambre à part à mata mata!!!!!!!
C'est cool, non?
Bah, quand j'ai réservé il n'y avait déjà plus de choix! J'ai pris ce qui restait dans les 2 cas.
A nossob, un chalet ch4 prévu pour 4 personnes mais avec seulement 2 lits mais avec 2 stack beds pour enfants!!!! A mata mata rest camp , un chalet FCH6 prévu pour 6 personnes COMPORTANT 2 CHAMBRES, chacune avec 2 lits!!!!! Et il y a 2 lits dans le salon!!! Nous pourrons même nous offrir le luxe de faire chambre à part à mata mata!!!!!!!
C'est cool, non?
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Nous pourrons même nous offrir le luxe de faire chambre à part à mata mata!!!!!!!
Tu auras trop peur des éventuels lion ..... 😏😏
Tu auras trop peur des éventuels lion ..... 😏😏
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
Faut essayer!
Bah oui, ça s'appelle le partage culturel. La vrai question est: est-ce qu'ils vont lancer des tomates comme en France? Ou bien est-ce qu'ils ont des choses plus originales? Est ce qu'ils vont se mettre à gueuler comme en France, ou bien seront-ils sensibles au charme exotique qui vient de si loin? En fait, tout dépendra des clients de l'hôtel..... français ou pas!
Bah oui, ça s'appelle le partage culturel. La vrai question est: est-ce qu'ils vont lancer des tomates comme en France? Ou bien est-ce qu'ils ont des choses plus originales? Est ce qu'ils vont se mettre à gueuler comme en France, ou bien seront-ils sensibles au charme exotique qui vient de si loin? En fait, tout dépendra des clients de l'hôtel..... français ou pas!
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Tu auras trop peur des éventuels lion
Bah non, je suis une lionne, moi môsieu, je suis née début août, et je fêterai mon anniversaire la-bas. Entre lions on se comprend.
Bah non, je suis une lionne, moi môsieu, je suis née début août, et je fêterai mon anniversaire la-bas. Entre lions on se comprend.
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J'aimerais bien voir ça 😏
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
La vrai question est: est-ce qu'ils vont lancer des tomates comme en France? Ou bien est-ce qu'ils ont des choses plus originales?
Est ce qu'ils vont se mettre à gueuler comme en France, ou bien seront-ils sensibles au charme exotique qui vient de si loin?
En fait, tout dépendra des clients de l'hôtel..... français ou pas!
Tu fais ça toi ? Par chez toi on fait ça ? En métropole jamais vu 😄 Mais bon peut-être avez vous d'autre coutume sur ton île 😇
Tu fais ça toi ? Par chez toi on fait ça ? En métropole jamais vu 😄 Mais bon peut-être avez vous d'autre coutume sur ton île 😇
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
Salut Manu,
Dis, tu crois qu'en plus de la visite à peri naua , je pourrais assister à un cours d'éducation musicale dans ce qui est l'équivalent du collège à Otjiwarongo? C'est ma discipline et je serais curieuse de voir comment ils procèdent la-bas.
Dis, tu crois qu'en plus de la visite à peri naua , je pourrais assister à un cours d'éducation musicale dans ce qui est l'équivalent du collège à Otjiwarongo? C'est ma discipline et je serais curieuse de voir comment ils procèdent la-bas.
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Tu fais ça toi ? Par chez toi on fait ça ? En métropole jamais vu 😄 Mais bon peut-être avez vous d'autre coutume sur ton île
Quoi, tu veux dire que c'est une légende qu'on m'aura racontée, c'est ça. Lancer des tomates ou des oeufs sur un artistes pour montrer son mécontentement, vous ne faites pas ça? Vous n'arrivez pas à un concert les poches remplies, au cas où?
C'est fou, ça? Tu veux dire que c'est comme le père Noël, ça n'a jamais existé?
Quoi, tu veux dire que c'est une légende qu'on m'aura racontée, c'est ça. Lancer des tomates ou des oeufs sur un artistes pour montrer son mécontentement, vous ne faites pas ça? Vous n'arrivez pas à un concert les poches remplies, au cas où?
C'est fou, ça? Tu veux dire que c'est comme le père Noël, ça n'a jamais existé?
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Je vois que j'ai des supporters indéfectibles, inquiets, qui s'interrogent circonspects. Merci infiniment.
Que deviendrais-je sans votre soutien?
Ça me fait penser à une phrase qu'on trouve sur certains tee-shirts, "be patient, God isn't fisnished with me yet"
Gros bisous!
Que deviendrais-je sans votre soutien?
Ça me fait penser à une phrase qu'on trouve sur certains tee-shirts, "be patient, God isn't fisnished with me yet"
Gros bisous!
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C'est fou, ça? Tu veux dire que c'est comme le père Noël, ça n'a jamais existé?
Tu es au courant de ça aussi ? 😄 Décidement plus rien n'a de secret pour toi ... sauf peut-être les méandres d'un voyage en afrique australe
Tu es au courant de ça aussi ? 😄 Décidement plus rien n'a de secret pour toi ... sauf peut-être les méandres d'un voyage en afrique australe
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
Essaie de changer ton bungalow avec les récents vue imprenable sur le point d eau ou s il n'y a pas contre n importe quoi au KTC.
Les resas, ça va ça vient.Y a peut être ce qu il faudra demain.🙂
Les resas, ça va ça vient.Y a peut être ce qu il faudra demain.🙂
Londiningi B&B
T'es sûre ?
C'est ce que je j'ai vu marqué le plus souvent, donc? si t'as autre chose......ou des critiques....
T'es sûre ?
C'est ce que je j'ai vu marqué le plus souvent, donc? si t'as autre chose......ou des critiques....
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Impressions d'Afrique et de Namibie
Bonsoir,
C'est vrai que, finalement, choisir (entre autres) la Namibie c'est quand même pas mal !!!
😉😉😉






J'en dis pas plus ...
C'est vrai que, finalement, choisir (entre autres) la Namibie c'est quand même pas mal !!!
😉😉😉






J'en dis pas plus ...
michel85200
étape du 1er août inutile.
je supprime carrément ou je mets ailleurs?
je supprime carrément ou je mets ailleurs?
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Apologie du southwest en hiver https://voyageforum.com/forum/apologie_sud-ouest_etats-unis_en_hiver_D5851267/
Impressions d'Afrique et de Namibie
Merci pour les photos.
Finalement je vais commencer par la Namibie, mais l'Afrique du sud et le Lesotho restent une destination (je n'arrive pas à séparer les 2) qu'il faudra que je visite vraiment en me promenant comme tu nous l'a montré.
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Impressions d'Afrique et de Namibie
Ce sera et j'espère, ce seront, un beau voyage, de beaux voyages...
michel85200
étape du 1er août inutile.
je supprime carrément ou je mets ailleurs?
Pour moi tu supprimes carrément, tu vas directement d'Etosha à Palmwag, tu fais la route dans la matinée en partant assez tôt, pas de problème...
Ou tu mets à la place pour le plaisir, la vue et tout le reste, Grootberg lodge (je ne sais pas si tu l'as mis?). Pas par nécessité, juste pour la beauté des lieux (ils ont aussi des activités mais je n'ai pas testé). Ce n'est qu'à 40km de Palmwag, avant.
Anne-Marie
je supprime carrément ou je mets ailleurs?
Pour moi tu supprimes carrément, tu vas directement d'Etosha à Palmwag, tu fais la route dans la matinée en partant assez tôt, pas de problème...
Ou tu mets à la place pour le plaisir, la vue et tout le reste, Grootberg lodge (je ne sais pas si tu l'as mis?). Pas par nécessité, juste pour la beauté des lieux (ils ont aussi des activités mais je n'ai pas testé). Ce n'est qu'à 40km de Palmwag, avant.
Anne-Marie
Carnets : Namibie en camping car, l'Est de l'Afrique du Sud, du KTP au Kaokoland en 4x4, la Norvège en hiver 2x, l'Ecosse en hiver, la Namibie avec remorque, l'Islande en camping car en juin, le tout avec 4 enfants, dans le profil https://voyageforum.com/v.f?membre=Caperam;
A ce moment là je mets le 2 nuits à grootberg lodge, est-ce que ce serait cohérent?
Il me semble que Pierre disait que grootberg lodge était mieux que palmwag.
Chez bel africa, il semble que grootberg lodge propose pas mal d'activités,
Ces activités peuvent être réservées à l'avance. - Scenic drive matinale : N$ 575 - Scenic drive l’après-midi : N$ 520 - ½ journée chez les Himbas : N$ 1.000 - 6 Hr à la poursuite des Rhinos : N$ 1.250 - ½ journée à la poursuite des éléphants : N$ 1.00 - 2hr de promenade pédestre guidée sur le Plateau : N$ 250 - Promenade à cheval : par heure : N$ 150 - Idem au coucher du soleil (3 heures) : N$ 250
Qu'en penses-tu?
Chez bel africa, il semble que grootberg lodge propose pas mal d'activités,
Ces activités peuvent être réservées à l'avance. - Scenic drive matinale : N$ 575 - Scenic drive l’après-midi : N$ 520 - ½ journée chez les Himbas : N$ 1.000 - 6 Hr à la poursuite des Rhinos : N$ 1.250 - ½ journée à la poursuite des éléphants : N$ 1.00 - 2hr de promenade pédestre guidée sur le Plateau : N$ 250 - Promenade à cheval : par heure : N$ 150 - Idem au coucher du soleil (3 heures) : N$ 250
Qu'en penses-tu?
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Impressions d'Afrique et de Namibie
Difficile de te répondre, vu que de Palmwag, je n'ai vu que la station service et la barrière vétérinaire... 🙂
On a beaucoup aimé Grootberg lodge, l'hébergement, les repas. Bon, c'est pas donné mais quel lieu!!! Comme je te disais, on n'a pas fait d'activité donc je ne sais pas ce que ça vaut, j'ai vu qu'ils proposaient d'aller chercher le rhino et l'éléphant... Peut-être que quelqu'un qui connaît Grootberg lodge et Palmwag sera dans le coin et saura te répondre mieux que moi!
Anne-Marie
On a beaucoup aimé Grootberg lodge, l'hébergement, les repas. Bon, c'est pas donné mais quel lieu!!! Comme je te disais, on n'a pas fait d'activité donc je ne sais pas ce que ça vaut, j'ai vu qu'ils proposaient d'aller chercher le rhino et l'éléphant... Peut-être que quelqu'un qui connaît Grootberg lodge et Palmwag sera dans le coin et saura te répondre mieux que moi!
Anne-Marie
Carnets : Namibie en camping car, l'Est de l'Afrique du Sud, du KTP au Kaokoland en 4x4, la Norvège en hiver 2x, l'Ecosse en hiver, la Namibie avec remorque, l'Islande en camping car en juin, le tout avec 4 enfants, dans le profil https://voyageforum.com/v.f?membre=Caperam;
Il me semble que Pierre disait que grootberg lodge était mieux que palmwag.
La vue de Grootberg est inoubliable. Mais les activités chères et pas extraordinaires. Alors que la concession de Palmwag est magnifique, que tu choisisses d'y aller en self-drive ou en game-drive. Le lodge de Palmwag est en plein travaux d'agrandissement et de rénovation. En 2015 ils seront terminés. Une nuit chaque ?
La vue de Grootberg est inoubliable. Mais les activités chères et pas extraordinaires. Alors que la concession de Palmwag est magnifique, que tu choisisses d'y aller en self-drive ou en game-drive. Le lodge de Palmwag est en plein travaux d'agrandissement et de rénovation. En 2015 ils seront terminés. Une nuit chaque ?
Une nuit chaque ?
Ok, ca marche. Lequel en premier?
Est-ce que les premiers jours du parcours sont ok? Peut-être serait-il bien que je bloque des résas à Etosha? Je peux?
Ok, ca marche. Lequel en premier?
Est-ce que les premiers jours du parcours sont ok? Peut-être serait-il bien que je bloque des résas à Etosha? Je peux?
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Dans l'ordre pour éviter de revenir en arrière, Okaukuejo/ Grootberg/Palmwag.
Anne-Marie
Anne-Marie
Carnets : Namibie en camping car, l'Est de l'Afrique du Sud, du KTP au Kaokoland en 4x4, la Norvège en hiver 2x, l'Ecosse en hiver, la Namibie avec remorque, l'Islande en camping car en juin, le tout avec 4 enfants, dans le profil https://voyageforum.com/v.f?membre=Caperam;
bon, je remets mon planning en apportant les corrections.
Voici le planning, en dur ou en camping, ou en mix camping lodge, il va falloir que je pèse le côté financier
J1=26-juil. arrivée à WINDHOEK Londiningi B&B ou autre si vous avez mieux à proposer, merci!
J2 =27-juil. OTJIWARANGO hadassa guest house, école peri naua, si nammanu connait quelque chose de mieux à Otjiwarongo, je suis à l'écoute.....
J3= 28-juil. OTJIWARANGO Hadassa Guesthouse, ou? CCF
J4= 29-juil. ETOSHA NWR Namutoni ?
J5 =30-juil. ETOSHA NWR Halali ?
J6 =31-juil. ETOSHA NWR Okaukuejo ?
J7 =1 août. grootberg lodge
J8= 2-août PALMWAG Palmwag Lodge
J9 =3-août BRANDBERG Brandberg White Lady Lodge
J10 =4-août SPITZKOPPE Spitzkoppe Camp
J11= 5-août SWAKOPMUND The Stiltz
J12= 6-août swakopmund the stiltz
J13 =7-août SESRIEM Sossus Dune Lodge
J14= 8-août SESRIEM NWR Sossus Dune Lodge ou camping? au cas ou tour en avion ou mongolfière
où est-ce que j'étais censée caser le gecko camp?
J15 =9-août NAUKLUFT Koimasis Farm-Lodge "Fest Inn Fels"
J16 =10-août LUDERITZ Island Cottage
J17 =11-août AUS Klein Aus Vista
J18 = 12-août FISH RIVER CANYON nuit dans la voiture camping sauvage ou canyon lodge? dur dur de choisir!
J19= 13-août ? springbok possible ou pas? c'est mon dernier espoir pour le namaqua......
J20 =14-août augrabies falls
J21= 15-août twee rivieren
J22 =16-août nossob
23 17-août mata mata réservation déjà effectuée ou KTC si possible pour le changement.
J24 =18-août MARIENTAL Anib Lodge?
J25 = 19-août WINDHOEK aéroport vers cape town
Y a-t-il d'autres changements nécessaires?
Voici le planning, en dur ou en camping, ou en mix camping lodge, il va falloir que je pèse le côté financier
J1=26-juil. arrivée à WINDHOEK Londiningi B&B ou autre si vous avez mieux à proposer, merci!
J2 =27-juil. OTJIWARANGO hadassa guest house, école peri naua, si nammanu connait quelque chose de mieux à Otjiwarongo, je suis à l'écoute.....
J3= 28-juil. OTJIWARANGO Hadassa Guesthouse, ou? CCF
J4= 29-juil. ETOSHA NWR Namutoni ?
J5 =30-juil. ETOSHA NWR Halali ?
J6 =31-juil. ETOSHA NWR Okaukuejo ?
J7 =1 août. grootberg lodge
J8= 2-août PALMWAG Palmwag Lodge
J9 =3-août BRANDBERG Brandberg White Lady Lodge
J10 =4-août SPITZKOPPE Spitzkoppe Camp
J11= 5-août SWAKOPMUND The Stiltz
J12= 6-août swakopmund the stiltz
J13 =7-août SESRIEM Sossus Dune Lodge
J14= 8-août SESRIEM NWR Sossus Dune Lodge ou camping? au cas ou tour en avion ou mongolfière
où est-ce que j'étais censée caser le gecko camp?
J15 =9-août NAUKLUFT Koimasis Farm-Lodge "Fest Inn Fels"
J16 =10-août LUDERITZ Island Cottage
J17 =11-août AUS Klein Aus Vista
J18 = 12-août FISH RIVER CANYON nuit dans la voiture camping sauvage ou canyon lodge? dur dur de choisir!
J19= 13-août ? springbok possible ou pas? c'est mon dernier espoir pour le namaqua......
J20 =14-août augrabies falls
J21= 15-août twee rivieren
J22 =16-août nossob
23 17-août mata mata réservation déjà effectuée ou KTC si possible pour le changement.
J24 =18-août MARIENTAL Anib Lodge?
J25 = 19-août WINDHOEK aéroport vers cape town
Y a-t-il d'autres changements nécessaires?
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Apologie du southwest en hiver https://voyageforum.com/forum/apologie_sud-ouest_etats-unis_en_hiver_D5851267/
Impressions d'Afrique et de Namibie
Je n'avais pas fait attention mais tu vas à Luderitz avant d'aller à Aus sur ton planning, c'est fait exprès?
Je te remets ce que j'ai écrit à Agnès dernièrement
"L'intérêt de dormir à Klein Aus Vista (à part la beauté du lieu), c'est que le lendemain matin tu fais la route pour Luderitz, tu t'arrêtes voir les chevaux, tu vas en ville, tu te balades, tu visites la péninsule (diaz point tout ça), avec un peu de bol tu vois les bestioles (manchots). Tu dors en ville et tu prends ton entrée pour Kolmanskop que tu visites le lendemain. Et quand tu as finis la visite (ça ferme à 13h) tu as le temps de reprendre la route et de remonter la D707 jusqu'à Koiimasis. " Bon, pour la fin ça ne marche pas mais si tu visites Kolmanskop dès l'ouverture et que tu ne traînes pas trop, il me semble que tu as le temps d'aller au canyon.
Pour ce qui est du camping sauvage... pas sûr que tu ne risques pas de te faire mettre dehors... On a le droit de rouler après le coucher du soleil pour revenir du point de vue, mais en effet, dans le parc même, il n'y a qu'un camping, pas de lodge.
Am
Je te remets ce que j'ai écrit à Agnès dernièrement
"L'intérêt de dormir à Klein Aus Vista (à part la beauté du lieu), c'est que le lendemain matin tu fais la route pour Luderitz, tu t'arrêtes voir les chevaux, tu vas en ville, tu te balades, tu visites la péninsule (diaz point tout ça), avec un peu de bol tu vois les bestioles (manchots). Tu dors en ville et tu prends ton entrée pour Kolmanskop que tu visites le lendemain. Et quand tu as finis la visite (ça ferme à 13h) tu as le temps de reprendre la route et de remonter la D707 jusqu'à Koiimasis. " Bon, pour la fin ça ne marche pas mais si tu visites Kolmanskop dès l'ouverture et que tu ne traînes pas trop, il me semble que tu as le temps d'aller au canyon.
Pour ce qui est du camping sauvage... pas sûr que tu ne risques pas de te faire mettre dehors... On a le droit de rouler après le coucher du soleil pour revenir du point de vue, mais en effet, dans le parc même, il n'y a qu'un camping, pas de lodge.
Am
Carnets : Namibie en camping car, l'Est de l'Afrique du Sud, du KTP au Kaokoland en 4x4, la Norvège en hiver 2x, l'Ecosse en hiver, la Namibie avec remorque, l'Islande en camping car en juin, le tout avec 4 enfants, dans le profil https://voyageforum.com/v.f?membre=Caperam;
Je n'avais pas fait attention mais tu vas à Luderitz avant d'aller à Aus sur ton planning, c'est fait exprès?
Euh, non? Je t'avoue qu'à force de remonter des itinéraires en arrière, il y a des erreurs de trajets qui ont pu se glisser.
Euh, non? Je t'avoue qu'à force de remonter des itinéraires en arrière, il y a des erreurs de trajets qui ont pu se glisser.
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Apologie du southwest en hiver https://voyageforum.com/forum/apologie_sud-ouest_etats-unis_en_hiver_D5851267/
Impressions d'Afrique et de Namibie
Coucou Diamina,
Je n'ai fréquenté aucun des 2 lodges (Palmvag et Grootberg).Par contre je suis passé au pied du Grootberg pour aller à kamanjab puis Etosha : c'est déjà spectaculaire.
De là -haut, la vue que j'ai aperçue en lisant les divers carnets (récits et photos) est magnifique.
Pour Palmvag, j'avais été tellement émerveillée par les photos des routes vers le nord que nous avons décidé de pousser une pointe (60km environ) au-delà puis de rebrousser chemin: un coin extraordinaire.
Tu dois aller jusque Palmvag !
Le paysage est si beau !
Il y a des grands buissons en boules d'euphorbes, des palmiers ( oui, des palmiers !) des girafes "à portée de main, des zèbres et, pour les chançards, des éléphants du désert et les super chançards ou ceux qui aiment se perdent dans le coin, des lions . LE BONHEUR !
Si j'ai la chance de retourner un jour en Namibie, j'irai jusque là et peut-être un peu plus loin, ça c'est sûr et certain ! 😉
Michelle
Ça y est j'ai modifié.
J1=26-juil. arrivée à WINDHOEK Londiningi B&B ou autre si vous avez mieux à proposer, merci!
J2 =27-juil. OTJIWARANGO hadassa guest house, école peri naua, si nammanu connait quelque chose de mieux à Otjiwarongo, je suis à l'écoute.....
J3= 28-juil. OTJIWARANGO Hadassa Guesthouse, ou? CCF
J4= 29-juil. ETOSHA NWR Namutoni ?
J5 =30-juil. ETOSHA NWR Halali ?
J6 =31-juil. ETOSHA NWR Okaukuejo ?
J7 =1 août. grootberg lodge
J8= 2-août PALMWAG Palmwag Lodge
J9 =3-août BRANDBERG Brandberg White Lady Lodge
J10 =4-août SPITZKOPPE Spitzkoppe Camp
J11= 5-août SWAKOPMUND The Stiltz
J12= 6-août swakopmund the stiltz
J13 =7-août SESRIEM Sossus Dune Lodge
J14= 8-août SESRIEM NWR Sossus Dune Lodge ou camping? au cas ou tour en avion ou mongolfière
où est-ce que j'étais censée caser le gecko camp?
J15 =9-août NAUKLUFT Koimasis Farm-Lodge "Fest Inn Fels"
J16 =10-août AUS Klein Aus Vista
J17 =11-août LUDERITZ Island Cottage
J18 = 12-août FISH RIVER CANYON nuit à canyon lodge? ou en camping non sauvage!
J19= 13-août ? springbok possible ou pas? c'est mon dernier espoir pour le namaqua......
J20 =14-août augrabies falls
J21= 15-août twee rivieren
J22 =16-août nossob
23 17-août mata mata réservation déjà effectuée ou KTC si possible pour le changement.
J24 =18-août MARIENTAL Anib Lodge?
J25 = 19-août WINDHOEK aéroport vers cape town
J1=26-juil. arrivée à WINDHOEK Londiningi B&B ou autre si vous avez mieux à proposer, merci!
J2 =27-juil. OTJIWARANGO hadassa guest house, école peri naua, si nammanu connait quelque chose de mieux à Otjiwarongo, je suis à l'écoute.....
J3= 28-juil. OTJIWARANGO Hadassa Guesthouse, ou? CCF
J4= 29-juil. ETOSHA NWR Namutoni ?
J5 =30-juil. ETOSHA NWR Halali ?
J6 =31-juil. ETOSHA NWR Okaukuejo ?
J7 =1 août. grootberg lodge
J8= 2-août PALMWAG Palmwag Lodge
J9 =3-août BRANDBERG Brandberg White Lady Lodge
J10 =4-août SPITZKOPPE Spitzkoppe Camp
J11= 5-août SWAKOPMUND The Stiltz
J12= 6-août swakopmund the stiltz
J13 =7-août SESRIEM Sossus Dune Lodge
J14= 8-août SESRIEM NWR Sossus Dune Lodge ou camping? au cas ou tour en avion ou mongolfière
où est-ce que j'étais censée caser le gecko camp?
J15 =9-août NAUKLUFT Koimasis Farm-Lodge "Fest Inn Fels"
J16 =10-août AUS Klein Aus Vista
J17 =11-août LUDERITZ Island Cottage
J18 = 12-août FISH RIVER CANYON nuit à canyon lodge? ou en camping non sauvage!
J19= 13-août ? springbok possible ou pas? c'est mon dernier espoir pour le namaqua......
J20 =14-août augrabies falls
J21= 15-août twee rivieren
J22 =16-août nossob
23 17-août mata mata réservation déjà effectuée ou KTC si possible pour le changement.
J24 =18-août MARIENTAL Anib Lodge?
J25 = 19-août WINDHOEK aéroport vers cape town
Nord Chili, NOA, Sud Lipez, La Paz août 2012 https://voyageforum.com/forum/mois_dans_andes_peripeties_en_altitude_D5526293/
Apologie du southwest en hiver https://voyageforum.com/forum/apologie_sud-ouest_etats-unis_en_hiver_D5851267/
Impressions d'Afrique et de Namibie
coucou Michelle,
Rassure-toi, j'y passerai à Palmwag et à grootberg (cf planning).
Rassure-toi, j'y passerai à Palmwag et à grootberg (cf planning).
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Impressions d'Afrique et de Namibie
RE...
je viens de voir ton nouveau planning: perso je le trouve TB, tu vas et à Grootberg lodge et à Palmvag mais si tu choisis plusieurs activités il te faudra soit arriver tôt (je crois avoir lu dans une discussion( Pierre ?) l'heure de départ du game drive à Palmvag) soit passer une seconde nuit.
D'ici demain, tu auras le plaisir de voir arriver plusieurs avis de connaisseurs sur ces 2 endroits ! 😎
où est-ce que j'étais censée caser le gecko camp? entre Swakopmund et Walvis.
C'est un endroit merveilleux mais on fait assez facilement la route d'une traite sans étape intermédiaire. Allez à Luderitz avant Aus, cela dépend si tu comptes passer toute la matinée à te balader à Koïimasis ou pas et si tu veux visiter la ville fantôme de Kolmanskop (visite le matin). Après le 11 août et klein Aus vista, je n'ai pas d'avis, je n'y suis pas allée. 😉 Du côté de Aus, à une 15zaine de km sur la route vers Luderitz, ne rate pas Garup et les chevaux sauvages .😉
où est-ce que j'étais censée caser le gecko camp? entre Swakopmund et Walvis.
C'est un endroit merveilleux mais on fait assez facilement la route d'une traite sans étape intermédiaire. Allez à Luderitz avant Aus, cela dépend si tu comptes passer toute la matinée à te balader à Koïimasis ou pas et si tu veux visiter la ville fantôme de Kolmanskop (visite le matin). Après le 11 août et klein Aus vista, je n'ai pas d'avis, je n'y suis pas allée. 😉 Du côté de Aus, à une 15zaine de km sur la route vers Luderitz, ne rate pas Garup et les chevaux sauvages .😉
Michelle
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Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
Hello,
A must-read for anyone planning to travel to Kenya or Tanzania in the coming months.
https://www.corsematin.com/article/francemonde/70999544524516/lonu-prevoit-un-el-nino-de-tres-forte-intensite-ces-cinq-prochains-mois
In Nov./Dec. 2022, I went on a safari in the region and we suffered from the extreme temperatures caused by the "El Niño" phenomenon in the Indian Ocean at that time. On top of the extreme heat, there can be torrential rains, flooding, etc., which have led to disasters with casualties.
Worth keeping in mind (just in case).
Best regards, ...
A must-read for anyone planning to travel to Kenya or Tanzania in the coming months.
https://www.corsematin.com/article/francemonde/70999544524516/lonu-prevoit-un-el-nino-de-tres-forte-intensite-ces-cinq-prochains-mois
In Nov./Dec. 2022, I went on a safari in the region and we suffered from the extreme temperatures caused by the "El Niño" phenomenon in the Indian Ocean at that time. On top of the extreme heat, there can be torrential rains, flooding, etc., which have led to disasters with casualties.
Worth keeping in mind (just in case).
Best regards, ...
Bonjour,
Nous sommes maintenant à 5 semaines de notre séjour en Afrique du Sud 🙂 et trèèèès impatients de partir à la découverte de (un tout petit bout) ce grand pays. Je dois acheter des jumelles mais ne sais trop quel modèle choisir. Aucune idée de ce qu'il faut (je ne souhaite pas investir une trop grosse somme) Merci par avance à ceux qui pourront me donner quelques conseils
Françoise
Nous sommes maintenant à 5 semaines de notre séjour en Afrique du Sud 🙂 et trèèèès impatients de partir à la découverte de (un tout petit bout) ce grand pays. Je dois acheter des jumelles mais ne sais trop quel modèle choisir. Aucune idée de ce qu'il faut (je ne souhaite pas investir une trop grosse somme) Merci par avance à ceux qui pourront me donner quelques conseils
Françoise
Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM 4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing 5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?) 8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...) 9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?) 11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!) 13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure) 16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...) 18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP 21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!) 22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now... I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments... Can’t wait to be back there again!
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM 4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing 5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?) 8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...) 9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?) 11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!) 13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure) 16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...) 18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP 21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!) 22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now... I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments... Can’t wait to be back there again!
We just got back from ten days in Tanzania. We were lucky enough to be guided by Gishaman. Always in a great mood, a good driver, and an excellent guide. Thanks to him, we not only saw the Big Five in one day but also loads of other animals. He works for the local agency Blit Safaris, which provided excellent support throughout our trip. Highly recommended!
Hi there,
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
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Dream of standing on the roof of Africa at 5,895 m? I’m looking for 4 people to complete our group for the Kilimanjaro ascent in Tanzania. 📅 September 17–28, 2026 👥 Small group 🥾 Suitable for experienced hikers 🏔️ Goal: Uhuru Peak – 5,895 m 🇹🇿 Local team specialized in Kilimanjaro 🎒 Porters during the ascent 🍽️ Meals and trek organization included 🧗♂️ Trip led by a French state-certified Mountain Leader
September is a great time to attempt the Kilimanjaro ascent. 🔥 Only 4 spots left. The departure is confirmed. No need to be a mountaineer—just be in good shape, love hiking, and want to experience an incredible adventure. 👋 If you’re alone, no problem: you’ll join our small group directly. 📧 Send me a message for the full program, price, and all the details.
Don’t hesitate to share this post with your hiking friends! 😊 Mafate Randos
Hi everyone!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
hi
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
Hi there,
Hope the pros are on the lookout!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
Hi there,
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
Hi,
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉






