Voyager en Birmanie? retours mitigés...
by Eusebius
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
... ceux qui souhaitent voir quelques photos ...
Heu ! tu pourrais pas nous en faire un "best of" ?
Parce que là y'en a un peu trop - plus de ... 2.000 😄 - et certaines à caractère privé, non ?
Moinillons descendant de la Taung Kyauktalone près de Moulmein
Heu ! tu pourrais pas nous en faire un "best of" ?
Parce que là y'en a un peu trop - plus de ... 2.000 😄 - et certaines à caractère privé, non ?
Moinillons descendant de la Taung Kyauktalone près de Moulmein"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Aie! Loupé de peu. J'ai juste vu la fin et la conclusion du commentateur off: "Aucun autre pays ne surprend autant le voyageur par ses contrastes et ses contradictions"
A revoir ici : http://videos.arte.tv/fr/videos/voyage_au_coeur_de_la_culture_birmane-4297854.html
A revoir ici : http://videos.arte.tv/fr/videos/voyage_au_coeur_de_la_culture_birmane-4297854.html
J'ai pas lu toutes les réactions
je rentre de Birmanie, j'y étais seule, et comme tous pays visités ,10 jours ou plus ne suffisent pas pour vraiment s'imprégner de son atmosphère.
Il faut du temps et prendre son temps. J'y suis restée 24 jours et je n'ai pas pu voir certains endroits mais c'est tant pis, car ce qu'il me restera en souvenir de ce voyage c'est la chaleur humaine; les sourires, et les instants simples passés avec les birmans.
C'est sur j'y retournerai.
Pour ce qui est des touristes; biensur , on en rencontre sur des sites clé et ça c'est partout pareil; mais dès qu'on s'en éloigne et pas besoin de faire des kilometres on peut ne pas en rencontrer.A Yangon par exemple où j'ai passé quelques jours( et qui est une ville intéressante) ça m'est arrivée de ma balader toute la journée dans les rues sans croiser d'occidentaux.
Et pour conclure :ne sommes nous pas tous des touristes. Et si demain mes parents peuvent se payer un voyage à+ de 2000€ par tete de pipe pour visiter ce pays et bien je l'ai encouragerai car il n'est pas réservé qu'aux "routards" et je pense qu'en tant que retraités ils l'auront bien mérité.
C'est le fond qui compte; à chacun son voyage.
Pour tous ceux qui souhaitent voir quelques photos de mon voyage dans ce "Pays Moderne" :
https://picasaweb.google.com/111575252940002215057
A+😏
Cette hallucinante profusion, ce mitraillage tout azimut, moi ça me fiche toujours le bourdon.
https://picasaweb.google.com/111575252940002215057
A+😏
Cette hallucinante profusion, ce mitraillage tout azimut, moi ça me fiche toujours le bourdon.
Regardes pas et t'auras pas à te plaindre et à déprimer ! 😄
De plus je ne vois pas en quoi ton commentaire "désagréable" apporte au fil de ce post.😕
Tu t'es fait plaisir en fait, t'as craché ton fiel, et t'es heureux. Bof, petit, minable en fait !!!
"Le voyage commence là où s'arrêtent nos certitudes..."
Mingalaba, Sawasdee, Xin chào, Tjomreab Souor, Selamat datang, Sabaidee
Ah j'oubliais aussi la visite de ton très récent profil😎😎
Très intéressant, 3 messages ou contributions plus que légères et ...
Bon bref faut se faire son idée en les consultant 🤪😕🏴☠️
Aller, CIAO le corand !
Profil du CORAND : 8 décembre 2011 à 22:05Nombre de messages publics:3 (Afficher les messages de corand)Membre depuis:7 décembre 2011, 15:43
Profil du CORAND : 8 décembre 2011 à 22:05Nombre de messages publics:3 (Afficher les messages de corand)Membre depuis:7 décembre 2011, 15:43
"Le voyage commence là où s'arrêtent nos certitudes..."
Mingalaba, Sawasdee, Xin chào, Tjomreab Souor, Selamat datang, Sabaidee
Moderne!!...............??
On dirait que tu n'es allé que dans les villes!!
et encore........................ du côté des riches!!!😠🤪
Bon et bien nous (couple de 30 ans) venons de passer 26 jours au Myanmar et nous avons également le même sentiment!
Nous sommes content d'avoir vu le pays, mais pour être franc ce n'est pas un coup de coeur.
Je pense qu'avec un budget supérieur (pouvoir prendre l'avion, une chambre qui n'est pas carcérale etc.) on apprécie déjà mieux
Précisons aussi que beaucoup de choses ont changés (le coup des dollars absolument irréprochables, plus de taxe de sorties et mêmes l'apparition de DAB (pas encore pour les étrangers). En particulier le coût de l'hébergement qui a prit une claque et le succès trop rapide du pays qui fait que les infrastructures ne suivent pas (pensez à réserver!).
Pour la nourriture c'est une parodie. Je ne vais pas m'étendre. Les gens sont sympas mais on sent le coté mercantile et l'effet pervers des tour operator (début de mendicité qui ne semble pas être dans les habitudes birmanes, des prix ridiculement haut quand on connait les vrais prix).
Nous avons été surtout déçus par la nature en fait... Nous attendions du sauvage, du "à couper le souffle" et du "magnifique". Mais non. C'est au mieux une "belle campagne" mais les villages n'ont plus rien d'authentique (en tout cas pour ce que nous avons vus c'est à dire 90% de ce que les gens peuvent venir voir).
Je suis un peu agacé par les articles que j'ai pu lire et qui m'ont donné envie d'y aller. Maintenant que j'en reviens je sais lire entre les ligne... à commencer par les "trek"... qui ne sont que de "belles" balades bien rodées pour les touristes.
Le pire c'est de sentir la dictature et la pauvreté des gens... et de limite avoir l'impression d'y participer - le coup "de l'itinéraire sans taxe", tu parles !
Bref nous y avons passé de bons moment (et nous avons de belles photos même pas retoucher les nôtres), mais je pense qu'il y a mieux à faire comme voyage. Nous ne sommes pas allé tout au nord (mais à choisir j'irais au Népal), ni à l'extrême Est (mais même là l'authenticité a dû en prendre un coup).
Cordialement.
Je pense qu'avec un budget supérieur (pouvoir prendre l'avion, une chambre qui n'est pas carcérale etc.) on apprécie déjà mieux
Précisons aussi que beaucoup de choses ont changés (le coup des dollars absolument irréprochables, plus de taxe de sorties et mêmes l'apparition de DAB (pas encore pour les étrangers). En particulier le coût de l'hébergement qui a prit une claque et le succès trop rapide du pays qui fait que les infrastructures ne suivent pas (pensez à réserver!).
Pour la nourriture c'est une parodie. Je ne vais pas m'étendre. Les gens sont sympas mais on sent le coté mercantile et l'effet pervers des tour operator (début de mendicité qui ne semble pas être dans les habitudes birmanes, des prix ridiculement haut quand on connait les vrais prix).
Nous avons été surtout déçus par la nature en fait... Nous attendions du sauvage, du "à couper le souffle" et du "magnifique". Mais non. C'est au mieux une "belle campagne" mais les villages n'ont plus rien d'authentique (en tout cas pour ce que nous avons vus c'est à dire 90% de ce que les gens peuvent venir voir).
Je suis un peu agacé par les articles que j'ai pu lire et qui m'ont donné envie d'y aller. Maintenant que j'en reviens je sais lire entre les ligne... à commencer par les "trek"... qui ne sont que de "belles" balades bien rodées pour les touristes.
Le pire c'est de sentir la dictature et la pauvreté des gens... et de limite avoir l'impression d'y participer - le coup "de l'itinéraire sans taxe", tu parles !
Bref nous y avons passé de bons moment (et nous avons de belles photos même pas retoucher les nôtres), mais je pense qu'il y a mieux à faire comme voyage. Nous ne sommes pas allé tout au nord (mais à choisir j'irais au Népal), ni à l'extrême Est (mais même là l'authenticité a dû en prendre un coup).
Cordialement.
:: tour du monde en 2012 ::
http://www.morning-chronicle.com
Bonjour jeune homme, et chaleureux bonjour aux plus de 30 ans.
Je ne vais pas commenter sur la Birmanie , que je ne connais pas , mais c'est en projet...
C'est juste cette façon tendancieuse et méprisante que tu as en citant ces plus de 30 ans, avec tes expressions que je ne vais pas reprendre encore. Trop de monde aura déjà souligné.
Moi j'ai 50 ans. Est-ce que tu pense que cela ne me donne le droit de voyager ? Peut-être penses-tu que cela suffit et que pour le bien de l'humanité des moins de 30 je devrais avoir l'obligeance d'éteindre ma lampe.
Je pense que pour mieux apprécier ce pays, tu aurais dû emporter dans ta valive un peu de MODESTIE, cela aurait sans doute changé ton regard...
Longue vie à toi, et beaux voyages dans un monde sans vieux...
(C'est vrai que tu précises n'avoir "rien contre ces gens là", comme pour édulcorer ton discours qui sent un peu le bûcher)
Alain.
Je ne vais pas commenter sur la Birmanie , que je ne connais pas , mais c'est en projet...
C'est juste cette façon tendancieuse et méprisante que tu as en citant ces plus de 30 ans, avec tes expressions que je ne vais pas reprendre encore. Trop de monde aura déjà souligné.
Moi j'ai 50 ans. Est-ce que tu pense que cela ne me donne le droit de voyager ? Peut-être penses-tu que cela suffit et que pour le bien de l'humanité des moins de 30 je devrais avoir l'obligeance d'éteindre ma lampe.
Je pense que pour mieux apprécier ce pays, tu aurais dû emporter dans ta valive un peu de MODESTIE, cela aurait sans doute changé ton regard...
Longue vie à toi, et beaux voyages dans un monde sans vieux...
(C'est vrai que tu précises n'avoir "rien contre ces gens là", comme pour édulcorer ton discours qui sent un peu le bûcher)
Alain.
J’ai un peu de mal à comprendre ceux qui sont déçus par la Birmanie.
Pour ma part j’y suis allé pour la première fois il y a 3 ans alors que j’avais 27 ans et j’ai adoré, gros coup de cœur.
Evidemment on ne va pas en Birmanie comme on va en Thailande. J’avais beaucoup lu et m’étais renseigné sur ce pays et donc savais plus ou moins à quoi m’attendre.
Je trouve que la Birmanie et le pays le plus authentique d’asie du sud-est et ce dû au fait (malheureusement) de son isolement politique et économique.
Les temples sont exceptionnels (si vous n’aimez pas le temples vous avez choisi la mauvaise destination…) et les plages à Ngapali sont magnifiques.
C’est sûr que pour la vie nocturne ce n’est pas Bangkok ou Phuket(et encore en se renseignant un peu il y a de belles soirée à faire à Rangoon).
Je pense que tout dépend de l’état d’esprit dans lequel on envisage son voyage.
Des lamentations ?
Je ne vois pas où tu as pu en souligner dans ma réponse (Qui ne s'adresait pas à toi) Sauf si tu te trompes d'interloculeur , je ne vois pas...Ou bien ne te contente pas d'émettre des sentences, développe.
Pour que la leçon soit bien apprise cela demande quelques éclaicissements.
A moins qu'il ne s'agisse que d'un petit problème d'ego , un épidermisme compulsif qui t'empèche de résister à écrire qu'importe quoi, sans aucun fondement, juste comme ça, pour qu'on te lise...
Pour faire ce que je veux ? Ne t'en préocupe pas , et ne t'en formalise pas si je le fais sans ta permission et si , bien avant ton injonction , j'y pense depuis un certain temps.
Je trouve singulier et dommage que sur un forum qui normalement est destiné au partage, aux expériences de chacun, un lien entre les voyageurs et ceux qui s'apprètent à le devenir, il y ait , trop souvent, des interventions comme la tienne, hors de propos, juste là pour envenimer les échanges, derriere un écran. Ce forum n'est pas un crachoir...
Puisque tu me conseilles , alors permets le mien de conseil. Ecris seulement si tu a quelque chose de pertinent, de constructif à nous faire connaître, et pas pour ne rien dire, fort mal à propos, juste comme ça pour justifier ton pseudo "Lesnerfs", cool mec... Et aussi prends le temps de lire, si tu le peux, sans t'énerver, avant d'envoyer tes tendancieuses invectives, inutiles et vaines.
J'expliquais simplement à cette jeune personne que son "racisme" anti vieux, et son désabusement me semblait pour le moins immature, lui suggérant d'appréhender son monde, celui qu'il découvre, avec un peut plus de tolérance et de modestie.
C'est bien cordialement et sans lamentation , que je te souhaite de continuer à faire ce que tu veux, sans t'autoproclamer instructeur en liberté. 😏
Alain Bongiorno.
A moins qu'il ne s'agisse que d'un petit problème d'ego , un épidermisme compulsif qui t'empèche de résister à écrire qu'importe quoi, sans aucun fondement, juste comme ça, pour qu'on te lise...
Pour faire ce que je veux ? Ne t'en préocupe pas , et ne t'en formalise pas si je le fais sans ta permission et si , bien avant ton injonction , j'y pense depuis un certain temps.
Je trouve singulier et dommage que sur un forum qui normalement est destiné au partage, aux expériences de chacun, un lien entre les voyageurs et ceux qui s'apprètent à le devenir, il y ait , trop souvent, des interventions comme la tienne, hors de propos, juste là pour envenimer les échanges, derriere un écran. Ce forum n'est pas un crachoir...
Puisque tu me conseilles , alors permets le mien de conseil. Ecris seulement si tu a quelque chose de pertinent, de constructif à nous faire connaître, et pas pour ne rien dire, fort mal à propos, juste comme ça pour justifier ton pseudo "Lesnerfs", cool mec... Et aussi prends le temps de lire, si tu le peux, sans t'énerver, avant d'envoyer tes tendancieuses invectives, inutiles et vaines.
J'expliquais simplement à cette jeune personne que son "racisme" anti vieux, et son désabusement me semblait pour le moins immature, lui suggérant d'appréhender son monde, celui qu'il découvre, avec un peut plus de tolérance et de modestie.
C'est bien cordialement et sans lamentation , que je te souhaite de continuer à faire ce que tu veux, sans t'autoproclamer instructeur en liberté. 😏
Alain Bongiorno.
Je trouve que la Birmanie et le pays le plus authentique d’asie du sud-est
Je rentre tout juste du Laos, y es tu déjà allé ?
Je rentre tout juste du Laos, y es tu déjà allé ?
Je trouve que la Birmanie et le pays le plus authentique d’asie du sud-est
Je rentre tout juste du Laos, y es tu déjà allé ?
Oui j'ai traversé le pays du sud au nord, c'était peu après mon voyage en birmanie d'ailleurs. Je maintiens donc la phrase que tu as citée. Mais ca n'engage que moi.
A+
Je rentre tout juste du Laos, y es tu déjà allé ?
Oui j'ai traversé le pays du sud au nord, c'était peu après mon voyage en birmanie d'ailleurs. Je maintiens donc la phrase que tu as citée. Mais ca n'engage que moi.
A+
Je trouve que la Birmanie et le pays le plus authentique d’asie du sud-est
Avec le recul je confirme.... !
Avec le recul je confirme.... !
:: tour du monde en 2012 ::
http://www.morning-chronicle.com
C'est bien pour ca que l'on en arrive frequemment a faire quelque chose pour les aider...ils sont si attachants....!!😎
Bonjour,
pour ma part, je suis rentrée de 17 jours en Birmanie et j'ai un sentiment mitigé comme quelques uns d'entre vous.
A vrai dire je ne comprend pas trop l'engouement exacerbé de certains, dont des amis qui y ont voyagé recemment, ou des reportages TV qui vantent à tel point ce pays.
Il est vrai qu'il y a des endroits magnifiques, Bagan par exemple, sans doute un des plus beaux endroits que j'ai vu. Un bon point aussi pour la pagode Shwedagon. Mais ormis çà, je n'ai pas été conquise par les monuments. Toujours des monastères, des pagodes, des temples.... Pour notre oeil non averti d'occidental, on a du mal à s'extasier ou de voir les spécificités de chacun(e)s. Au niveau paysages, j'ai été très décue. Par exemple je n'ai pas du tout aimé le lac Inlé. Hormis le fait de voir la vie sur un village flottant, qq marchés... mouais bof. Et sinon, il n'y a pas vraiment de belle nature ou beau paysage naturel. Ou alors, je n'ai pas vu les bons endroits. C'est vrai que j'ai fait un circuit classique , c'est peut etre là mon erreur.
La population est adorable, vraiment... mais c'est aussi une des caractéristiques d'autres populations d'Asie du Sud est. Je reviens du Cambodge par ex, ou la population est tout aussi adorable et accueillante, et même plus souriante. J'ai aussi autant été touchée par les Sri Lankais...
Le point qui nous a posé problème (et gaché un peu le séjour?), c'est la fréquentation touristique. 🤪 Plein de cars de tours operators, des sites surchargés, beaucoup de monde dans des endroits ou l'atmosphère du coup n'est plus intimiste ou authentique (le pont Ubein, le monastère d'Amapura, Inwa...). Des vingtaines de touristes qui pointent leurs énormes objectifs sur un moinillon faisant la sieste (ou se trouvant là pour la photo?? on s'est demandé...).
Par contre, un très bon point pour les treks dans les villages, ou on a retrouvé du calme et un contact sincère et désinteressé avec la population... Notre meilleur souvenir du voyage.
Donc voilà pour mon ressenti. Peut etre qu'on a "raté" notre voyage, je ne sais pas... ou peut etre qu'on en avait trop entendu parlé....C'est aussi pour çà que je me permet de donner un avis plus nuancé que tous les messages dithyrambiques concernant ce pays afin que les futurs voyageurs en ressortent agréablement surpris plutôt que décus 🙂
Bon voyage à ceux qui partent, en esperant que vous aurez plus de "feeling" que moi avec le pays. 😉
Il est vrai qu'il y a des endroits magnifiques, Bagan par exemple, sans doute un des plus beaux endroits que j'ai vu. Un bon point aussi pour la pagode Shwedagon. Mais ormis çà, je n'ai pas été conquise par les monuments. Toujours des monastères, des pagodes, des temples.... Pour notre oeil non averti d'occidental, on a du mal à s'extasier ou de voir les spécificités de chacun(e)s. Au niveau paysages, j'ai été très décue. Par exemple je n'ai pas du tout aimé le lac Inlé. Hormis le fait de voir la vie sur un village flottant, qq marchés... mouais bof. Et sinon, il n'y a pas vraiment de belle nature ou beau paysage naturel. Ou alors, je n'ai pas vu les bons endroits. C'est vrai que j'ai fait un circuit classique , c'est peut etre là mon erreur.
La population est adorable, vraiment... mais c'est aussi une des caractéristiques d'autres populations d'Asie du Sud est. Je reviens du Cambodge par ex, ou la population est tout aussi adorable et accueillante, et même plus souriante. J'ai aussi autant été touchée par les Sri Lankais...
Le point qui nous a posé problème (et gaché un peu le séjour?), c'est la fréquentation touristique. 🤪 Plein de cars de tours operators, des sites surchargés, beaucoup de monde dans des endroits ou l'atmosphère du coup n'est plus intimiste ou authentique (le pont Ubein, le monastère d'Amapura, Inwa...). Des vingtaines de touristes qui pointent leurs énormes objectifs sur un moinillon faisant la sieste (ou se trouvant là pour la photo?? on s'est demandé...).
Par contre, un très bon point pour les treks dans les villages, ou on a retrouvé du calme et un contact sincère et désinteressé avec la population... Notre meilleur souvenir du voyage.
Donc voilà pour mon ressenti. Peut etre qu'on a "raté" notre voyage, je ne sais pas... ou peut etre qu'on en avait trop entendu parlé....C'est aussi pour çà que je me permet de donner un avis plus nuancé que tous les messages dithyrambiques concernant ce pays afin que les futurs voyageurs en ressortent agréablement surpris plutôt que décus 🙂
Bon voyage à ceux qui partent, en esperant que vous aurez plus de "feeling" que moi avec le pays. 😉
Et ouiiii.................!!
Tout depend de ce que l'on recherche dans un voyage...!!
Pour la plupart, il faut se rendre a l'evidence... ce qui est recherche avant tout, ce sont des "vacances" agreables, de belles ballades, des "belles photos"....
Seulement voila... il faut etre un "vrai" voyageur, un "routard" pour reellement decouvrir, observer, apprendre des coutumes... , des gens... aimer leurs differences...
et aussi avoir "beaucoup de compassion" pour se mettre a la place des gens qui habitent le pays et realiser si "eux" malgre toutes les difficultes qu'ils rencontrent au quotidien ne serait-ce que pour boire de l'eau potable... manger a leur faim ou aller jusqu'a la fin du mois ... ont le droit de ne pas toujours afficher un sourire devant le touriste de base qui a du mal a voir ce qui se passe autour de lui avec ses lunettes de soleil un peu trop teintees.😕
Rejouissons nous que ce pays occasionne une selection tout a fait naturelle de ses visiteurs.............!!😄
bonsoir
j'adhère à ce que tu dis
je diminue ma durée de séjour au profit de la thaîlande
..pays superbe , pas toujours bien "exploré"
voyager est synonyme d'échanges , de liberté , de rencontres...
je ferai un périple birman en choisissant mes points de chute..
et j'ai 57 balais et ...pense que le voyage est essentiel pour la découverte des autres et de ...soi
mais , ce qui est pénible sur ce site...les fautes d'orthographe...vous savez faire fonctionner le correcteur de fautes??? Anne
mais , ce qui est pénible sur ce site...les fautes d'orthographe...vous savez faire fonctionner le correcteur de fautes??? Anne
Anne
Seulement voila... il faut etre un "vrai" voyageur, un "routard" pour reellement decouvrir, observer, apprendre des coutumes... , des gens... aimer leurs differences...
Le Routard a une facheuse tendance à se considérer comme le (seul) "vrai" Voyageur... Au vu de mes récentes photos curieux de savoir comment tu me qualifierais...
Le Routard a une facheuse tendance à se considérer comme le (seul) "vrai" Voyageur... Au vu de mes récentes photos curieux de savoir comment tu me qualifierais...
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Tes photos sont superbes Philgbo !!! Et même si tu ne te considères pas comme un "vrai routard" (je n'aime pas trop le mot moi non plus... ça me fait sourire d'entendre ce mot en 2012...), on sent à travers tes images que tu as déjà une certaine expérience du voyage, et de l'Asie. Tu voyages, tu ne pars pas en vacances.
Aussi je comprends et je suis assez d'accord avec Filefisch, la Birmanie se prète plus au VOYAGE qu'aux vacances. Et je n'ai rien contre les vacances !!! 😏 (je pars sur Phan Ngan en février... en vacances)
Aussi je comprends et je suis assez d'accord avec Filefisch, la Birmanie se prète plus au VOYAGE qu'aux vacances. Et je n'ai rien contre les vacances !!! 😏 (je pars sur Phan Ngan en février... en vacances)
"Si vous croisez le Bouddha, tuez-le !!!"
Bonjour Filefish,
je ne comprend pas vraiment ta réponse 🤪 , et ne sais d'ailleurs pas si elle m'est destinée.
Je ne suis pas particulièrement adepte de superbes photos, de lunettes teintées ou d'expériences hors du commun. Je voyage régulièrement et viens de passer 5 mois en Asie et m'estime donc capable de donner un avis totalement subjectif sur le séjour que j'ai passé dans ce pays. Mon post n'avait pas du tout comme but de "démonter la Birmanie". Ca n'est d'ailleurs pas mon ressenti.
Comme je l'ai expliqué, c'est un pays qui a beaucoup d'atout, sa population, ses petits villages, Bagan... Il est très attachant mais il a aussi ses défauts et ses travers. C'est ce pour quoi j'ai été un peu décue, sans doute parce qu'on entend souvent que les bons côtés, je m'attendais de recevoir une claque et que ca n'a pas été le cas. Encore une fois, ca n'est que mon avis! Et je trouve que d'autres pays d'Asie sont tout aussi beaux, accueillants et attachants sans qu'on en entende des tonnes et des tonnes!
Je me permettais juste de participer à une discussion appelée "retours mitigés", car il me semble que je ne suis pas la seule à avoir ce ressenti.
Ceci dit, j'encourage chacun à y aller pour découvrir ce pays encore méconnu il y a quelques années (mais désormais, à la mode!) en esperant que les Birmans garderont leur fraîcheur et authenticité et que le pays ne tombera pas dans les sirènes du tourisme à outrance. J'espere d'ailleurs y retourner un jour pour découvrir des régions plus reculées ;)
Bonne journée
Je me permettais juste de participer à une discussion appelée "retours mitigés", car il me semble que je ne suis pas la seule à avoir ce ressenti.
Ceci dit, j'encourage chacun à y aller pour découvrir ce pays encore méconnu il y a quelques années (mais désormais, à la mode!) en esperant que les Birmans garderont leur fraîcheur et authenticité et que le pays ne tombera pas dans les sirènes du tourisme à outrance. J'espere d'ailleurs y retourner un jour pour découvrir des régions plus reculées ;)
Bonne journée
"en esperant que les Birmans garderont leur fraîcheur et authenticité et que le pays ne tombera pas dans les sirènes du tourisme à outrance"
L'espoir fait vivre, comme on dit... Je pense malheureusement qu'à plus ou moins longs termes, la machine babylonnienne aura raison de leur fraîcheur... Ainsi soit-il. 😛
L'espoir fait vivre, comme on dit... Je pense malheureusement qu'à plus ou moins longs termes, la machine babylonnienne aura raison de leur fraîcheur... Ainsi soit-il. 😛
"Si vous croisez le Bouddha, tuez-le !!!"
je m'attendais de recevoir une claque et que ca n'a pas été le cas. Encore une fois, ca n'est que mon avis! Et je trouve que d'autres pays d'Asie sont tout aussi beaux, accueillants et attachants sans qu'on en entende des tonnes et des tonnes!
Moi j'ai continué à recevoir des claques en 2012... Malgré l'appréhension que j'avais et bien que ce ne soit pas mon 1er voyage dans le pays.... Et je serais curieux de connaitre quelques autres pays d'Asie du Sud Est aussi équivalents ou attachants...
ce pays encore méconnu il y a quelques années (mais désormais, à la mode!) en esperant que les Birmans garderont leur fraîcheur et authenticité et que le pays ne tombera pas dans les sirènes du tourisme à outrance
Voeu pieux.... Malheureusement
Moi j'ai continué à recevoir des claques en 2012... Malgré l'appréhension que j'avais et bien que ce ne soit pas mon 1er voyage dans le pays.... Et je serais curieux de connaitre quelques autres pays d'Asie du Sud Est aussi équivalents ou attachants...
ce pays encore méconnu il y a quelques années (mais désormais, à la mode!) en esperant que les Birmans garderont leur fraîcheur et authenticité et que le pays ne tombera pas dans les sirènes du tourisme à outrance
Voeu pieux.... Malheureusement
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Hello,
Nous étions en mars 2012 en Birmanie (7 ème séjour) et en avril 2012 au Laos, notre 1 er séjour. Nous avons découvert Vang Vieng et je comprends très bien tes commentaires horrifiés...
Bonne nouvelle: nous venons de recevoir un e-mail du gérant du guest-house "Chez Mango" et il nous dit: "Il y a eu un grand nettoyage à Vang Vieng et nous ne sommes pas mécontents de voir arriver une clientèle plus respectueuse envers les Laos."
Cordialement
Nous étions en mars 2012 en Birmanie (7 ème séjour) et en avril 2012 au Laos, notre 1 er séjour. Nous avons découvert Vang Vieng et je comprends très bien tes commentaires horrifiés...
Bonne nouvelle: nous venons de recevoir un e-mail du gérant du guest-house "Chez Mango" et il nous dit: "Il y a eu un grand nettoyage à Vang Vieng et nous ne sommes pas mécontents de voir arriver une clientèle plus respectueuse envers les Laos."
Cordialement
Seulement voila... il faut etre un "vrai" voyageur, un "routard" pour reellement decouvrir, observer, apprendre des coutumes... , des gens... aimer leurs differences...
Le Routard a une facheuse tendance à se considérer comme le (seul) "vrai" Voyageur... Au vu de mes récentes photos curieux de savoir comment tu me qualifierais...
Pas de qualificatif... Il y a deja longtemps qu'on voit ton nom sur VF Tes photos sont magnifiques et temoignent d'un oeil artistique et d'une sensibilite envers les etres.
Le Routard a une facheuse tendance à se considérer comme le (seul) "vrai" Voyageur... Au vu de mes récentes photos curieux de savoir comment tu me qualifierais...
Pas de qualificatif... Il y a deja longtemps qu'on voit ton nom sur VF Tes photos sont magnifiques et temoignent d'un oeil artistique et d'une sensibilite envers les etres.
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J‘aurais deux questions concernant la demande d‘un Visa non-immigrant O auprès de l‘ambassade de Thaïlande en France, pour une personne de plus de 50 ans :
- - Faut-il indiquer l‘adresse / les adresses de séjour en Thaïlande (hôtels, logement chez une amie Thaïlandaise) ?
- - Preuves financières : est-il suffisant de fournir une attestation de retraite de plus de 2,000 euros mensuels, ou faut-il également fournir des relevés bancaires ?
Je sais qu‘il y a déjà beaucoup d‘information concernant les conditions d‘obtention de ce visa sur le site de l‘ambassade, mais je sais d‘expérience, ayant consulté les ambassades dans d‘autres pays les années précédentes, que les informations sont parfois (!) incomplètes ou inconsistantes. Je préfère donc avoir les avis de personnes qui sont récemment passées par ce type de demande, et ne pas avoir de surprise une fois ma demande déposée, qui pourrait causer des délais désagréables.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hi,
I wanted to visit the plantations in the morning with GetYourGuide or by just showing up.
How much time should I really plan for?
I’d like to catch either the 3 PM or 5 PM bus back to KL.
Thanks
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi! I’d like to split my trip into two parts: 15 days in Phuket and 15 days in Krabi. Do you know if I can rent a car and drop it off in Krabi when I fly back to France?
Thanks for your feedback!
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Martine
Hello,
After 1 night in Khao Sok, I’d like to find a 2 Days 1 Night package on the lake.
After reading a lot, I decided to "break the bank" and treat ourselves to a private tour—mainly to avoid the crowds.
But after contacting several operators, they offer "private tours" that are very expensive (around 700 €), yet in the details, the boats can only leave from the pier at 10 AM like everyone else. (I was hoping to leave much earlier.) The morning program is the same for everyone too (private or not). They drop us off at noon at our floating hotel (I’d chosen Phupha Waree). Free afternoon (swimming or kayaking in front of the hotel). We head back by boat for a 1-hour sunset ride. And the next morning, we leave the hotel at 8 AM to be at the pier by 9:30 AM at the latest—end of the trip.
So basically, we’re paying a lot for a private tour just to do the same thing as everyone else at the same time.
Or maybe I just had bad luck in my search. I contacted Panida Ladi, who’s very popular on forums. We’d agreed on a private tour that matched my request (departure from the pier at 8 AM, very personalized itinerary). We settled on the itinerary and price, she asked for a Wise transfer for a 30% deposit, confirmed receipt of the deposit. Then 30 minutes later, she messaged me to say she was canceling everything because it was impossible to do the requested tour—and promised a quick refund of my deposit.
So here’s my question: Who’s done a *real* private tour on this lake? Who can recommend a reliable agency? Is it even really possible to do a private tour here?
Thanks, PS: My trip is planned for November
So basically, we’re paying a lot for a private tour just to do the same thing as everyone else at the same time.
Or maybe I just had bad luck in my search. I contacted Panida Ladi, who’s very popular on forums. We’d agreed on a private tour that matched my request (departure from the pier at 8 AM, very personalized itinerary). We settled on the itinerary and price, she asked for a Wise transfer for a 30% deposit, confirmed receipt of the deposit. Then 30 minutes later, she messaged me to say she was canceling everything because it was impossible to do the requested tour—and promised a quick refund of my deposit.
So here’s my question: Who’s done a *real* private tour on this lake? Who can recommend a reliable agency? Is it even really possible to do a private tour here?
Thanks, PS: My trip is planned for November
Hi,
I wanted to get some info about the cable car and the bridge—I see lots of different options...
How much time should we allow for these two activities? If we arrive around 4 PM, will we have enough time to visit without rushing?
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Hi everyone, I’m back on the forum.
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I’m searching for a real gem for my 3rd stay in Koh Lanta: a lovely, high-quality hotel right by an easily accessible beach in a lively spot. If you know of anything that fits what I’m looking for and want to share, don’t hesitate!
Thanks so much!
Marsyork
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Hi dear community,
I'm planning to visit Cambodia this winter, right after Christmas, for my first solo trip and my first trip to Asia. For two weeks (yes, I know it's short, but I really can't do more...). I have two main desires: Siem Reap and the countryside, the villages, the Mekong...
What do you think of this itinerary? Arrival in Siem Reap, departure from Phnom Penh.
SR: 5 days (1 day for arrival, 3 for the temples, 1 for the lake and its villages)
Kratie (stop on the way to Mondolkiri): 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days there)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 days (1 day of travel, 1 day there, 2 days of treks)
PP: 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days of sightseeing)
I think I need to cut one day somewhere if I travel from Saturday to Saturday or Sunday to Sunday. In Kratie, maybe? Or in PP? And I'll miss the boat trip that everyone recommends (SR-Battambang), but I don't see where to fit it in. Unless I do a PP-PP loop starting in the east, skip Kratie or just stay one night, then SR, then PP.
In my timing, Mondolkiri seems closer than Ratanakiri, which also tempted me a lot! Will it be too complicated alone? I'm thinking of using local guides or a small local agency for a nature and village getaway.
I've read that Siem Reap is very crowded between Christmas and New Year's. I could also do the circuit in the opposite direction. But I thought it would be easier to get familiar with the country by arriving in a touristy area—I might be wrong...
Thanks for your advice and opinions!
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.






