Inquiétudes pour la Thaïlande
by Valaisan
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Je rentre d'un séjour Birmanie / Thaïlande
et je suis soucieux pour ce pays qu j'adore qui est la Thaïlande, je m'intérèsse à ce qui si passe sans vouloir rentrer dans une polémique jaune/rouge mais j'aime bien avoir les éléments en mains pour me faire une opinion, ce qui viens de ce passer me fait penser à une autorité à 2 vitesses, les jaunes ( royaliste, qui sont minoritaires en nombre mais qui occupent une place prépondérente dans les hautes sphères du pas ) bloquent les aéroports, font perdre des sommes énormes à l'état pas de sanction, les rouges ( qui sont majoritaires au nombre ) manifestent et l'armée tire à balle réelle. 2 vitesses, le seul élément qui fait que le pays reste encore plus ou moins stable et uni surtout est le roi, que ce passera t'il s'il nous quitte ( nul est éternel ). Je ne fait pas de politique mais je pense que de s'intérèsser aux autres est une forme d'amour.
Tu as eu raison de dire que tu ne voulais pas rouvrir le débat en prenant position 😏😏😏
Tu as eu raison de dire que tu ne voulais pas rouvrir le débat en prenant position 😏😏😏
(Je complète ...) Car c'est pas si évident lorsqu'on lit le message ("mensonges" par omission, mais "mensonges" tout de même) 😉
(Je complète ...) Car c'est pas si évident lorsqu'on lit le message ("mensonges" par omission, mais "mensonges" tout de même) 😉
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
"Je rentre d'un séjour Birmanie / Thaïlande"
Aprés la Thailande, Parles nous de la Birmanie : Une ou deux vitesses ?😉
Aprés la Thailande, Parles nous de la Birmanie : Une ou deux vitesses ?😉
Tout le monde meurt, peu de gens vivent .
Je n'aime pas donner des réponses ... . Aujourd'hui, quand on donne aux gens des réponses, ils ont l'impression qu'on les prend pour des imbéciles et qu'on empiète sur leur liberté. Mon testament philosophique Citations de Jean Guitton
Je n'aime pas donner des réponses ... . Aujourd'hui, quand on donne aux gens des réponses, ils ont l'impression qu'on les prend pour des imbéciles et qu'on empiète sur leur liberté. Mon testament philosophique Citations de Jean Guitton
Parles nous de la Birmanie : Une ou deux vitesses ?😉
Moi je dirais une vitesse, neutre....
Moi je dirais une vitesse, neutre....
S.D
Parles nous de la Birmanie : Une ou deux vitesses ?😉
Moi je dirais une vitesse, neutre....
En France (boîtes manuelles) on appelle çà le "point mort" ... 😉
Moi je dirais une vitesse, neutre....
En France (boîtes manuelles) on appelle çà le "point mort" ... 😉
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Maï lou ...
C'est tout juste si je ne me demande pas si les boîtes manuelles ont un "point mort" ici !
Tous les gens que je connais laissent la première au lieu du frein à main lorsque la voiture est arrêtée ...
Et çà m'horripile 😐 (j'ai fait plusieurs années de "mécanique/machines-outils")
NB:A Paris, si vous faites de même, vous perdez très vite des dents (à la boîte) lors des manoeuvres de "créneau" des autres ...
C'est tout juste si je ne me demande pas si les boîtes manuelles ont un "point mort" ici !
Tous les gens que je connais laissent la première au lieu du frein à main lorsque la voiture est arrêtée ...
Et çà m'horripile 😐 (j'ai fait plusieurs années de "mécanique/machines-outils")
NB:A Paris, si vous faites de même, vous perdez très vite des dents (à la boîte) lors des manoeuvres de "créneau" des autres ...
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Personnellement et de façon concise, je considère qu'au décès du roi, les militaires reprendront inéluctablement la main pour faire échec à Taksin dont la popularité s'avère sans faille...
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Personnellement et de façon concise, je considère qu'au décès du roi, les militaires reprendront inéluctablement la main pour faire échec à Taksin dont la popularité s'avère sans faille...
MOUAIIIIISSSS clique sur moi pour voir ce que t'en penses 😛
MOUAIIIIISSSS clique sur moi pour voir ce que t'en penses 😛
le seul élément qui fait que le pays reste encore plus ou moins stable et uni surtout est le roi, que ce passera t'il s'il nous quitte ( nul est éternel ).
Eh bien se sera le fils qui prendra les reines du pays (en toute logique) mais il n'a pas les faveurs du peuple Thai qui preférerais que ce soit la fille du roi qui soit reine .(les fameux t-shirt Rose).
Sinon ce que je trouve allucinant, c'est que j'étais à Khon Kaen le 11-12-13 avril lors de ces PETITE querelle inter Thai, et bien c'est mon frère en France qui m'a avertis par sms qu'a Bangkok il y avait des problemes.. MDR. Je dis merci au Media de France de surpolimiqué sur ce pays qui en à vraiment pas besoin en ce moment car en rapport de ce qu'il passait à la télé (chars de l'armée, affrontement sanglant etc...) il ne voyait pas que des millions de personnes s'amusaient à féter le Songkran. J'ai même fait la fête avec des T-shirt rouge et quelques mec de l'armée... Happy Songkran A tous ceux qui veulent aller en Thailande et si vous aimez ce pays, surtout allez y et n'ayez pas peur. n'écoutez à la lettre les ragots des médias en manque de scoop. Poot Mak Moi perso je me sent plus en sécurité en Thailande que sur les champs élysée. a bon entendeur
Eh bien se sera le fils qui prendra les reines du pays (en toute logique) mais il n'a pas les faveurs du peuple Thai qui preférerais que ce soit la fille du roi qui soit reine .(les fameux t-shirt Rose).
Sinon ce que je trouve allucinant, c'est que j'étais à Khon Kaen le 11-12-13 avril lors de ces PETITE querelle inter Thai, et bien c'est mon frère en France qui m'a avertis par sms qu'a Bangkok il y avait des problemes.. MDR. Je dis merci au Media de France de surpolimiqué sur ce pays qui en à vraiment pas besoin en ce moment car en rapport de ce qu'il passait à la télé (chars de l'armée, affrontement sanglant etc...) il ne voyait pas que des millions de personnes s'amusaient à féter le Songkran. J'ai même fait la fête avec des T-shirt rouge et quelques mec de l'armée... Happy Songkran A tous ceux qui veulent aller en Thailande et si vous aimez ce pays, surtout allez y et n'ayez pas peur. n'écoutez à la lettre les ragots des médias en manque de scoop. Poot Mak Moi perso je me sent plus en sécurité en Thailande que sur les champs élysée. a bon entendeur
Olivier
vivre ses rêves....
Je ne penses pas que la Thaïlande soit plus sure que la France mais en tant que touriste je pense qu'il s'agit effectivement d'un pays où l'on se sent plutôt en sécurité😛
stages cycliste en Thailande
En effet Dilom, je savais que le fils n'avais pas la faveur, tu as raison quant tu dis que les médias empirisent les choses, Quant au Songkran je l'ai vécu pour la première fois en Birmanie, et ben ils savent aussi s'amuser.
Moi de toute façon je retourne en décembre et pas une once de peur, juste soucieux pour le futur du pays.
Bien dit!!!
c 'est vrai qu on en fait pas autant pour certaines dictatures...
Les gens autours de moi m'ont traité d insconcient d' enmener mes enfants la bas.
Y a pas plus de violence la bas qu' en france en ce moment au regard des sequestrations dans les entreprises et j" en passe...
Il faut que les media cessent d' amplifier ces evennements de politique interieure.
Ni les rouges ni les jaunes en veulent aux touristes qui sont accueilllis les bras ouverts.
Bon voyage a tous.
Bruno
Le monde est un livre, ceux qui ne voyagent pas n'en lisent qu' une page ( Saint Augustin )
Mai lou chai chai 🙂
Tous les gens que je connais laissent la première au lieu du frein à main lorsque la voiture est arrêtée ... Au Canada aussi ont laisse en premiere en plus du frein a main!
Tous les gens que je connais laissent la première au lieu du frein à main lorsque la voiture est arrêtée ... Au Canada aussi ont laisse en premiere en plus du frein a main!
S.D
Ni les rouges ni les jaunes en veulent aux touristes (7% du PIB du pays) qui sont accueilllis les bras ouverts.
JUSTE ! MAIS les rouges auraient dans tous les cas plus à perdre que les jaunes. De l'avis de quelques chauffeurs de taxi, employés de 7/11 cotoyés lors d'un retentissant appel de Taksin sur une radio FM à la toute fin mars 09. Quant au fils de roi il apprécierait plutot bien un ex premier ministre... Pour le reste ca ne m'empechera pas de retourner en Thailande selon mon bon vouloir dans la mesure ou le pays reste bien entendu encore à des années lumières en terme de violence à ce que nous constatons en France (et notre bonne vieille Europe en général)
JUSTE ! MAIS les rouges auraient dans tous les cas plus à perdre que les jaunes. De l'avis de quelques chauffeurs de taxi, employés de 7/11 cotoyés lors d'un retentissant appel de Taksin sur une radio FM à la toute fin mars 09. Quant au fils de roi il apprécierait plutot bien un ex premier ministre... Pour le reste ca ne m'empechera pas de retourner en Thailande selon mon bon vouloir dans la mesure ou le pays reste bien entendu encore à des années lumières en terme de violence à ce que nous constatons en France (et notre bonne vieille Europe en général)
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Eh bien se sera le fils qui prendra les reines du pays (en toute logique) mais il n'a pas les faveurs du peuple Thai qui preférerais que ce soit la fille du roi qui soit reine .(les fameux t-shirt Rose).
La Thailande applique le vieux principe (franc) de la loi Salique (seul un héritier mâle sera roi) contrairement à la Couronne Anglaise par ex ??
La Thailande applique le vieux principe (franc) de la loi Salique (seul un héritier mâle sera roi) contrairement à la Couronne Anglaise par ex ??
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
le pays reste bien entendu encore à des années lumières en terme de violence à ce que nous constatons en France (et notre bonne vieille Europe en général)
Je n'en suis pas si sur!!! La Thaïlande est un pays ou les règlements de compte, parfois pour des pacotilles sont monnaies courantes...😕😉
Je n'en suis pas si sur!!! La Thaïlande est un pays ou les règlements de compte, parfois pour des pacotilles sont monnaies courantes...😕😉
stages cycliste en Thailande
La Thaïlande est un pays ou les règlements de compte, parfois pour des pacotilles sont monnaies courantes...😕😉
OH ? Parce que tu crois qu'en Corse ou dans le Sud de la France ils ne se se flinguent que pour des trucs importants ?? LOL
Pardon d'avance à Fortini 😉...
OH ? Parce que tu crois qu'en Corse ou dans le Sud de la France ils ne se se flinguent que pour des trucs importants ?? LOL
Pardon d'avance à Fortini 😉...
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Tu parles là de mouvements de contestations tandis que moi je te parles de règlements de compte parce que le voisin fait un peu trop de bruit, parce qu'un passager n'a pas payé le prix que le chauffeur de taxi a exigé, parce que quelqu'un a pris la place d'un autre sur un marché de village...😉!
Alors qu'ici on en viendrait au main, l'arme est là bas beaucoup plus monnaie courante🏴☠️😉
Bien sur en tant que simple touriste que nous sommes, nous ne voyons rien de tout ca et n'y prettons pas attention😉
Bien sur en tant que simple touriste que nous sommes, nous ne voyons rien de tout ca et n'y prettons pas attention😉
stages cycliste en Thailande
+1
J'ajouterais, pour info, qu'un "contrat" ici coûte 1000€, que pour cette somme on peut être "débarassé" de ceux (ou celles, mesdames) qui vous gênent ...
Je n'ai jamais lu de stats sur l'élucidation des crimes en Thaïlande, mais à priori çà m'étonnerait que ce soit meilleur qu'en France 😉
J'ajouterais, pour info, qu'un "contrat" ici coûte 1000€, que pour cette somme on peut être "débarassé" de ceux (ou celles, mesdames) qui vous gênent ...
Je n'ai jamais lu de stats sur l'élucidation des crimes en Thaïlande, mais à priori çà m'étonnerait que ce soit meilleur qu'en France 😉
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Tu parles là de mouvements de contestations (12 homicides depuis le debut d'année sur l"Ile dont 3 ce week end... Sinon 130 reglements de compte sur la France en 2008 !!) TOUT BAIGNE !! LOL l'arme est là bas beaucoup plus monnaie courante🏴☠️😉 (t'as raison gamin, en Corse particulierement les fusils de chasse ne sont ni innombrables ni redoutables !)
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
le pays reste bien entendu encore à des années lumières en terme de violence à ce que nous constatons en France (et notre bonne vieille Europe en général)
Je n'en suis pas si sur!!! La Thaïlande est un pays ou les règlements de compte, parfois pour des pacotilles sont monnaies courantes...😕😉
Si il y a ça (les règlements de compte) en Thaïlande alors il y a ça partout dans le monde.
Par exemple, en France on se tape dessus pour un match de foot bidon (par ex : les "pseudo-supporters" de PSG ils se tapent dessus avant, pendant et après un match) 😕 c'est pas pire ?
Je n'en suis pas si sur!!! La Thaïlande est un pays ou les règlements de compte, parfois pour des pacotilles sont monnaies courantes...😕😉
Si il y a ça (les règlements de compte) en Thaïlande alors il y a ça partout dans le monde.
Par exemple, en France on se tape dessus pour un match de foot bidon (par ex : les "pseudo-supporters" de PSG ils se tapent dessus avant, pendant et après un match) 😕 c'est pas pire ?
Sabai Sabai, Took Jai Gaw Gun Pai
Praw Chun Pen Kon, Mai Son Arai
Mai Koey Kid Guan Jai Krai, Sabai Sabai
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=tCBn6oZybPM
La Thaïlande est un pays ou les règlements de compte, parfois pour des pacotilles sont monnaies courantes...

exat mais a l'écart du monde touristique 😉.... il suffit de lire les quotidiens thaïe ( en thaïe ) ou acheter ses 2 magazines qui sont dédié au meurtre .. ( et qui sont la depuis bien 30 ans ) donc le fond de commerce marche tres bien ..



exat mais a l'écart du monde touristique 😉.... il suffit de lire les quotidiens thaïe ( en thaïe ) ou acheter ses 2 magazines qui sont dédié au meurtre .. ( et qui sont la depuis bien 30 ans ) donc le fond de commerce marche tres bien ..

« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Bien sur que l'on se tape dessus pour des conneries en france mais ca dévie quand même rarement sur un coup de fusil!
Après je ne dis pas que la France c'est tout beau tout rose et la Thaïlande c'est l'insécurité à mort.
Je contrebalance juste l'affirmation de philgbo qui disait en gros que la Thaïlande était à des années lumières de la france en terme d'insécurité...ce qui est d'après moi faux😛😉
Après si notre ami veut absolument nous parler de la Corse pourquoi pas mais cela reste un mouvement contestataire minoritaire...et pour les 130 règlements de compte...désolé mais je ne trouve pas cela énorme😊
stages cycliste en Thailande
+1
J'ajouterais, pour info, qu'un "contrat" ici coûte 1000€, que pour cette somme on peut être "débarassé" de ceux (ou celles, mesdames) qui vous gênent ...
Je n'ai jamais lu de stats sur l'élucidation des crimes en Thaïlande, mais à priori çà m'étonnerait que ce soit meilleur qu'en France 😉
J'adore lire votre prose surtout quand truffee d'erreurs elle me permet de vous repondre. Un contrat debute a bien moins que 1000 euros puisque tres souvent 5.000 baht (donc un peu plus de cent euros et non mille) suffisent . Et personne n'est a l'abri d'une bavure....(comme en France que vous citez bien trop souvent..Elle vous manque tant que cela cette chere et douce patrie?)
Pour revenir au fil du sujet; quand on s'interesse un peu aux journaux thai et aux TV, qui soit dit en passant sont TOUTES aux ordres et certaines plus que d'autres... Donc revenons a nos moutons; il y a les jaunes qui sont soutenus comme chacun sait par kivoussavez donc ont beaucoup de pouvoir et d'argent Il y a les rouges qui ne sont pas vraiment pro-Thaksin mais continuent a l'ecouter et il y a aussi les bleus qui sont le parti d'un traite du TRT et sont donc un allie des jaunes.
la dessus se greffe la tentative d'assassinat du leader des jaunes par (on le pensait il y a quelques jours) des tueurs (a 5000 baht) a la solde des rouges. Manque de pot, c'est pas ca; en fait c'est une guerre fratricide dans le meme clan. Kivoussavez ayant appris qu'Appisit et ses amis soutiennent l'arriere petit fils de Rama 5, actuellement gouverneur de Bangkok, pour la succession de son cher et tendre s'est mise en colere et a ordonne l'assassinat du monsieur en question. Donc les rouges ne sont pas dans le coup. CQFD
La politique en Thailande, c'est encore mieux que du Agatha Christie
J'ajouterais, pour info, qu'un "contrat" ici coûte 1000€, que pour cette somme on peut être "débarassé" de ceux (ou celles, mesdames) qui vous gênent ...
Je n'ai jamais lu de stats sur l'élucidation des crimes en Thaïlande, mais à priori çà m'étonnerait que ce soit meilleur qu'en France 😉
J'adore lire votre prose surtout quand truffee d'erreurs elle me permet de vous repondre. Un contrat debute a bien moins que 1000 euros puisque tres souvent 5.000 baht (donc un peu plus de cent euros et non mille) suffisent . Et personne n'est a l'abri d'une bavure....(comme en France que vous citez bien trop souvent..Elle vous manque tant que cela cette chere et douce patrie?)
Pour revenir au fil du sujet; quand on s'interesse un peu aux journaux thai et aux TV, qui soit dit en passant sont TOUTES aux ordres et certaines plus que d'autres... Donc revenons a nos moutons; il y a les jaunes qui sont soutenus comme chacun sait par kivoussavez donc ont beaucoup de pouvoir et d'argent Il y a les rouges qui ne sont pas vraiment pro-Thaksin mais continuent a l'ecouter et il y a aussi les bleus qui sont le parti d'un traite du TRT et sont donc un allie des jaunes.
la dessus se greffe la tentative d'assassinat du leader des jaunes par (on le pensait il y a quelques jours) des tueurs (a 5000 baht) a la solde des rouges. Manque de pot, c'est pas ca; en fait c'est une guerre fratricide dans le meme clan. Kivoussavez ayant appris qu'Appisit et ses amis soutiennent l'arriere petit fils de Rama 5, actuellement gouverneur de Bangkok, pour la succession de son cher et tendre s'est mise en colere et a ordonne l'assassinat du monsieur en question. Donc les rouges ne sont pas dans le coup. CQFD
La politique en Thailande, c'est encore mieux que du Agatha Christie
1000e pour se payer Léon!😎 C'est vrai que c'est cheap...j'y penserai si mon voisin à la fâcheuse manie de garer son pick up devant ma maison...😛😄
stages cycliste en Thailande
oui puisque on est dans le sang . je crois que la violence est différente .. dans les pays latins on extériorise . facilement .. donc très vite visible .. en asie on se fait un auto contrôle . mais on rumine cela et au bout de un moment .. la cocotte minute pète .. ..
si il y a peut de violence sur les étrangers c'est que 1 ils sont de passage en grande majorité donc . pas le temps de préparer son plan .. puis on est en terre inconnu .. le farang ne cherche pas la bagarre .. ( sauf dans la cite balnéaire .😉. et coins a touristes glauque .. ) la les thaïes appliquent le same same but different .....
un philosophe de Vf a dit un jour .. >
si il y a peut de violence sur les étrangers c'est que 1 ils sont de passage en grande majorité donc . pas le temps de préparer son plan .. puis on est en terre inconnu .. le farang ne cherche pas la bagarre .. ( sauf dans la cite balnéaire .😉. et coins a touristes glauque .. ) la les thaïes appliquent le same same but different .....
un philosophe de Vf a dit un jour .. >
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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C'est vrai que quand on vient en vacances en Thailande on ne cherche pas particulierement a tout voir .
Avez-vous cependant remarque qu'un magasin relativement courant dans notre douce patrie n'existe pas en Thailande?
Je veux parler des armureries, la ou on peut acheter un lance-pierre ou quelque chose de plus sophistique en passant par le sifflet a ultrasons pour faire fuir les chiens agressifs.
Donc en Thailande pas d'armureries et pourtant combien de fusils de chasse et combien d'armes de poing en libre circulation..??
Cherchez l'erreur...
Avant que certains de mes chers ennemis intimes ne repondent en se gondolant...
OK, il y en a !
Combien dans cette belle et grande ville de Krungthep Mahanakorn....etc..etc...😉 ?
A Udon Thani devenue cette annee la deuxieme ville de Thailande par le nombre des habitants, je n'en ai jamais vu, A Sawang, pas loin de chez moi, que nenni, y en a pas..Dans un petit bled de meme grandeur, Vitre (35500) en Bretagne, il y en a trois! Suis alle a Nan il y a 2 ans, pas vu non plus... A Chiang Mai? Y en a-t-il?
Ce que je sais par contre c'est que l'Issan est en train depuis plusieurs mois de s'armer (silencieusemment) en vue de la mort de kivoussavez; De banderilles a Bangkok ou Pattaya on passera a beaucoup plus serieux; De tres nombreux thai en parlent d'ailleurs, meme avec des farang, la guerre civile approche a grands pas.
A Udon Thani devenue cette annee la deuxieme ville de Thailande par le nombre des habitants, je n'en ai jamais vu, A Sawang, pas loin de chez moi, que nenni, y en a pas..Dans un petit bled de meme grandeur, Vitre (35500) en Bretagne, il y en a trois! Suis alle a Nan il y a 2 ans, pas vu non plus... A Chiang Mai? Y en a-t-il?
Ce que je sais par contre c'est que l'Issan est en train depuis plusieurs mois de s'armer (silencieusemment) en vue de la mort de kivoussavez; De banderilles a Bangkok ou Pattaya on passera a beaucoup plus serieux; De tres nombreux thai en parlent d'ailleurs, meme avec des farang, la guerre civile approche a grands pas.
il est certain que ses boutiques sont bien moins nombreuses que les bars a tabourets .. c'est un milieux asses fermee .... je ne vois pas trop un touriste . rentrer des demander un pétard thaïe comme souvenir de vacances ......
ses mini boutiques .. font un joli chiffre d'affaire a fournir ce que les minorités ethniques ont comme armes...... ( j'ai demander il y a quelques années a un haut dignitaire karen la provenance de ses jouxjoux ...... .. ) il m'a dit BKK bien sur ...... 😉
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Lorsque je citais 1000€, c'est du tarif de Samui dont je parlais, tout le monde l'aura compris (sauf ...).
A ceci s'ajoutent les meurtres "gratuits", ceux commis par les ivrognes à qui on ose vouloir faire payer leurs consos par exemple 😉
Pour se faire une idée de l'ambiance "interlope" de Samui, rien de tel que le forum "thaivisa", à chaque fois qu'un coup de feu est tiré quelque part c'est relaté aussitôt !
En plus de çà, personne n'a encore parlé ici de la "violence routière" ... qui cause le plus grand nombre de morts parmi les falangs !
NB:Si mon pick-up vous gênait, même devant chez moi, dites-le moi, je le bougerais de suite et pour pas "un rond" LOL
A ceci s'ajoutent les meurtres "gratuits", ceux commis par les ivrognes à qui on ose vouloir faire payer leurs consos par exemple 😉
Pour se faire une idée de l'ambiance "interlope" de Samui, rien de tel que le forum "thaivisa", à chaque fois qu'un coup de feu est tiré quelque part c'est relaté aussitôt !
En plus de çà, personne n'a encore parlé ici de la "violence routière" ... qui cause le plus grand nombre de morts parmi les falangs !
NB:Si mon pick-up vous gênait, même devant chez moi, dites-le moi, je le bougerais de suite et pour pas "un rond" LOL
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Comme si Samui etait le nombril du monde ....(Ca se saurait!)
C'est un confetti sur la carte de la Thailande qui n'apparaitrait meme pas sur celle du monde.
Ce qui est dommage avec vous monsieur la mouche (malengwan) c'est que vous adorez l'humour mais seul le votre est recevable. Les bons mots qui touchent le public sont ceux de Mengwan; comme l'orthographe plus que maladroite de votre cher et bon ami qui se gargarise de mots savants et alambiques dont il ne connait meme pas le sens...mais comme ils sentent bon le sable chaud, non, la, je m'egare...du nord? Cordialement, Tiens moi aussi je vais ecrire ainsi meme si je n'en pense mot 😠.
Ce qui est dommage avec vous monsieur la mouche (malengwan) c'est que vous adorez l'humour mais seul le votre est recevable. Les bons mots qui touchent le public sont ceux de Mengwan; comme l'orthographe plus que maladroite de votre cher et bon ami qui se gargarise de mots savants et alambiques dont il ne connait meme pas le sens...mais comme ils sentent bon le sable chaud, non, la, je m'egare...du nord? Cordialement, Tiens moi aussi je vais ecrire ainsi meme si je n'en pense mot 😠.
Bien sur en tant que simple touriste que nous sommes, nous ne voyons rien de tout ca et n'y prettons pas attention😉
Et bien alors comment peux tu affirmer toutes ces choses là, si tu es un touriste, que tu ne vois rien et que tu n'y prette pas attention. Serais tu un touriste different des autres pour affirmer tout cela ? 😉
Et bien alors comment peux tu affirmer toutes ces choses là, si tu es un touriste, que tu ne vois rien et que tu n'y prette pas attention. Serais tu un touriste different des autres pour affirmer tout cela ? 😉
Olivier
vivre ses rêves....
En plus de çà, personne n'a encore parlé ici de la "violence routière" ... qui cause le plus grand nombre de morts parmi les falangs !
De quelle violence routière parle tu ? celle de Kho Samui ? Phuket ? là ou il y a une forte concentration de Farang ? Ce ne serait pas les Farangs qui seraient responsable entre eux de cette violence routière en se croyant tout permis ? comme d'habitude En Isaan que je parcours de long en large avec ma VIOS, j'ai du mal à voir ou est la violence routière lorsque les Thai roule entre 80 et 100 km/h sur le N°2. et sur les route secondaire, Mukdahan => Sakhon Nakon => Seka et j'en passe J'ai même tendance à aller plus vite qu'eux.
De quelle violence routière parle tu ? celle de Kho Samui ? Phuket ? là ou il y a une forte concentration de Farang ? Ce ne serait pas les Farangs qui seraient responsable entre eux de cette violence routière en se croyant tout permis ? comme d'habitude En Isaan que je parcours de long en large avec ma VIOS, j'ai du mal à voir ou est la violence routière lorsque les Thai roule entre 80 et 100 km/h sur le N°2. et sur les route secondaire, Mukdahan => Sakhon Nakon => Seka et j'en passe J'ai même tendance à aller plus vite qu'eux.
Olivier
vivre ses rêves....
Tout le monde au village a soit un fusil de chasse, modèle pétoire F1😉, mais aussi et le plus souvent un automatique voire un revolver entre 9 mm et 11, 43.......
Cela fait partie de la panoplie de tout Thaï qui se respecte.....Mais on ne montre pas son joujou à tout le monde.....😉.
Par contre, peu de munitions, voire juste un chargeur d'Avance....😠
Par contre, peu de munitions, voire juste un chargeur d'Avance....😠
Tout le monde meurt, peu de gens vivent .
Je n'aime pas donner des réponses ... . Aujourd'hui, quand on donne aux gens des réponses, ils ont l'impression qu'on les prend pour des imbéciles et qu'on empiète sur leur liberté. Mon testament philosophique Citations de Jean Guitton
Je n'aime pas donner des réponses ... . Aujourd'hui, quand on donne aux gens des réponses, ils ont l'impression qu'on les prend pour des imbéciles et qu'on empiète sur leur liberté. Mon testament philosophique Citations de Jean Guitton
Salut
J'ai l'impression que tu idéalises les tropiques en faisant des comparaison avec la france. Je vis ds le sud de la france (à marseille) et je peux te garantir que ca ne se tire pas dessu à tous les coins de rue; faut arrêter ces simplifications; les qq réglements de compte relèvent du crime organisé présent de partout dans le monde (et en asie aussi); qd au reste il s'agit souvent de petite délinquance présente aussi ailleurs ds le monde et en asie. Un seul point c vrai qq bracages de commerce un peu plus nombreux qu'ailleurs à marseille. Qd à la corse c'est très particulier; pas comparable; com il est difficile de comparer le sud de la thailande au reste du pays. Faut arrêter de présenter la france et le sud surtout comme une zone dangereuse; c'est ni plus ni moins dangereux qu'ailleurs, thailande comprise (je lis des fois les news et faits divers ds les presses online asiatiques et africaines et c loin d'être toujours rose) Chaque pays a ses bons et mauvais côtés mais arrêtez de toujours critiquer le votre de manière si gratuite. Merci a++
J'ai l'impression que tu idéalises les tropiques en faisant des comparaison avec la france. Je vis ds le sud de la france (à marseille) et je peux te garantir que ca ne se tire pas dessu à tous les coins de rue; faut arrêter ces simplifications; les qq réglements de compte relèvent du crime organisé présent de partout dans le monde (et en asie aussi); qd au reste il s'agit souvent de petite délinquance présente aussi ailleurs ds le monde et en asie. Un seul point c vrai qq bracages de commerce un peu plus nombreux qu'ailleurs à marseille. Qd à la corse c'est très particulier; pas comparable; com il est difficile de comparer le sud de la thailande au reste du pays. Faut arrêter de présenter la france et le sud surtout comme une zone dangereuse; c'est ni plus ni moins dangereux qu'ailleurs, thailande comprise (je lis des fois les news et faits divers ds les presses online asiatiques et africaines et c loin d'être toujours rose) Chaque pays a ses bons et mauvais côtés mais arrêtez de toujours critiquer le votre de manière si gratuite. Merci a++
Lorsque tu ne sais pas où tu vas, regarde d'où tu viens (proverbe Africain)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Un contrat debute a bien moins que 1000 euros puisque tres souvent 5.000 baht (donc un peu plus de cent euros et non mille) suffisent .
Ca sent le vécu... On croirait que tu puisses en faire l'objet un jour... 😇😇
Ca sent le vécu... On croirait que tu puisses en faire l'objet un jour... 😇😇
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Non je n'ai pas la prétention de dire que je suis un touriste différent! Je suis un touriste comme beaucoup d'autres (hormis que je préfère les vieilles pierres aux plages😄) et c'est pourquoi je m'adresse à la 1ère personne du pluriel😉!
Je retranscrit juste bêtement ce qu'une très bonne connaissance à le soin de me dicter tous les jours😛😏
stages cycliste en Thailande
C'est vrai, la Thailande c'est un peu le far west asiatique 😉😄😏😏
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Tu crois vraiment qu'en France ca dérive rarement sur un coup de fusil ?
T'as peut-etre raison d'un coté car un fusil ca coute un peu cher pour les jeunes de la cité alros ils préfèrent les barres de fer ou des couteaux...
Bien sur la Thailande n'est pas du tout un pays parfait et il y a des règlement de compte. Mais j'ai moins peur de me promener la nuit à Bangkok qu'à Paris par exemple.
T'as peut-etre raison d'un coté car un fusil ca coute un peu cher pour les jeunes de la cité alros ils préfèrent les barres de fer ou des couteaux...
Bien sur la Thailande n'est pas du tout un pays parfait et il y a des règlement de compte. Mais j'ai moins peur de me promener la nuit à Bangkok qu'à Paris par exemple.
Sabai Sabai, Took Jai Gaw Gun Pai
Praw Chun Pen Kon, Mai Son Arai
Mai Koey Kid Guan Jai Krai, Sabai Sabai
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=tCBn6oZybPM
Moi de toute façon je retourne en décembre et pas une once de peur, juste soucieux pour le futur du pays.
Ouais en effet, car un Valaisan qui aurait peur de retourner en Thaïlande se serait du jamais vu!!! MDR....😏
Bon voyage l'ami, oublie pas de prendre une bouteille de fendant. De bleu de bleuuuuu....😉
Ouais en effet, car un Valaisan qui aurait peur de retourner en Thaïlande se serait du jamais vu!!! MDR....😏
Bon voyage l'ami, oublie pas de prendre une bouteille de fendant. De bleu de bleuuuuu....😉
Don't be famous....be useful...
Being happy doesn't mean everything is perfect.
It means you've decided to see beyond the imperfections."
J'adore lire votre prose surtout quand truffee d'erreurs elle me permet de vous repondre.
Un contrat debute a bien moins que 1000 euros puisque tres souvent 5.000 baht (donc un peu plus de cent euros et non mille) suffisent .
Et personne n'est a l'abri d'une bavure....(comme en France que vous citez bien trop souvent..Elle vous manque tant que cela cette chere et douce patrie?)
Pour revenir au fil du sujet; quand on s'interesse un peu aux journaux thai et aux TV, qui soit dit en passant sont TOUTES aux ordres et certaines plus que d'autres... Donc revenons a nos moutons; il y a les jaunes qui sont soutenus comme chacun sait par kivoussavez donc ont beaucoup de pouvoir et d'argent Il y a les rouges qui ne sont pas vraiment pro-Thaksin mais continuent a l'ecouter et il y a aussi les bleus qui sont le parti d'un traite du TRT et sont donc un allie des jaunes.
la dessus se greffe la tentative d'assassinat du leader des jaunes par (on le pensait il y a quelques jours) des tueurs (a 5000 baht) a la solde des rouges. Manque de pot, c'est pas ca; en fait c'est une guerre fratricide dans le meme clan. Kivoussavez ayant appris qu'Appisit et ses amis soutiennent l'arriere petit fils de Rama 5, actuellement gouverneur de Bangkok, pour la succession de son cher et tendre s'est mise en colere et a ordonne l'assassinat du monsieur en question. Donc les rouges ne sont pas dans le coup. CQFD
La politique en Thailande, c'est encore mieux que du Agatha Christie
Quelles sont tes sources concernant le lien entre la tentative d'assassinat et Kivoussavez ? Au final personnes de parlent des mensonges de Taksin qui sont tordant, la première sur CNN où il annonce 60 morts au moins (ce qui est évidement faux) il a anticiper sur ce qu'il aurait aimé que ce soit à savoir un carnage contre l'armée, manque de bol ceux ci tiraient en l'air et les seuls morts à déplorer sont 2 morts par énervement de rouges...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZZTKFT-BAo
La 2ème vidéo est la plus probante, il dit texto "il n'y aura plus besoin de s'aligner pour 500 baths ", confusant avec l'histoire des retraités touchant 500 bahts après 60 ans (l'âge de Taksin) ce qui est parlant c'est son comportement après la fameuse phrase...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K6bGlnirgk&feature=related
Pour revenir au fil du sujet; quand on s'interesse un peu aux journaux thai et aux TV, qui soit dit en passant sont TOUTES aux ordres et certaines plus que d'autres... Donc revenons a nos moutons; il y a les jaunes qui sont soutenus comme chacun sait par kivoussavez donc ont beaucoup de pouvoir et d'argent Il y a les rouges qui ne sont pas vraiment pro-Thaksin mais continuent a l'ecouter et il y a aussi les bleus qui sont le parti d'un traite du TRT et sont donc un allie des jaunes.
la dessus se greffe la tentative d'assassinat du leader des jaunes par (on le pensait il y a quelques jours) des tueurs (a 5000 baht) a la solde des rouges. Manque de pot, c'est pas ca; en fait c'est une guerre fratricide dans le meme clan. Kivoussavez ayant appris qu'Appisit et ses amis soutiennent l'arriere petit fils de Rama 5, actuellement gouverneur de Bangkok, pour la succession de son cher et tendre s'est mise en colere et a ordonne l'assassinat du monsieur en question. Donc les rouges ne sont pas dans le coup. CQFD
La politique en Thailande, c'est encore mieux que du Agatha Christie
Quelles sont tes sources concernant le lien entre la tentative d'assassinat et Kivoussavez ? Au final personnes de parlent des mensonges de Taksin qui sont tordant, la première sur CNN où il annonce 60 morts au moins (ce qui est évidement faux) il a anticiper sur ce qu'il aurait aimé que ce soit à savoir un carnage contre l'armée, manque de bol ceux ci tiraient en l'air et les seuls morts à déplorer sont 2 morts par énervement de rouges...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZZTKFT-BAo
La 2ème vidéo est la plus probante, il dit texto "il n'y aura plus besoin de s'aligner pour 500 baths ", confusant avec l'histoire des retraités touchant 500 bahts après 60 ans (l'âge de Taksin) ce qui est parlant c'est son comportement après la fameuse phrase...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K6bGlnirgk&feature=related
"
Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
+1
Il y a aussi les camions de carburants prêts à être utilisés comme explosifs "façon Irak" ... (sans doute un coup des chinois qui les avaient confondus avec des pétards de koute-tchine !)
Mais, à la relecture, ce qui me fait rire, c'est le "CQFD" 😉
Si j'avais fait dans ma jeunesse des "démonstrations" de ce niveau, je n'aurais même pas eu de certificat d'études primaires ...
😎😎😎
Il y a aussi les camions de carburants prêts à être utilisés comme explosifs "façon Irak" ... (sans doute un coup des chinois qui les avaient confondus avec des pétards de koute-tchine !)
Mais, à la relecture, ce qui me fait rire, c'est le "CQFD" 😉
Si j'avais fait dans ma jeunesse des "démonstrations" de ce niveau, je n'aurais même pas eu de certificat d'études primaires ...
😎😎😎
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Quelles sont tes sources concernant le lien entre la tentative d'assassinat et Kivoussavez ?
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Je n ai pas trouvé d infos récentes sur Kuching
Est ce quelqu un peut recommander un hotel ou une guesthouse à moins de 100 RM bien et pas cher? pas de dortoir merci
Est ce qu en novembre il pleut beaucoup et aller à Semenggoh ou Bako vaut le coup ou pas?
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
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I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
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Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
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Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.












