Asie du Sud-Est et mentalité!
by Ba0ng
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
C'est moi ou certains posts ont sautés ?, en tout cas mon dernier il a sauter c'est sûr ...
Pour en revenir aux philippins (et apparemment à tout habitant du Sud-Est de l'Asie)!
Ce sont des CIGALES, toujours à chanter, danser, boire, se reproduire sans penser aux lendemain ! Et quand pépin arrivent, il attende Mr FOURMIS l'occidentale en vacance, pour lui demander/extorquer sont argent !
Tout cela fait sans aucune finesse et sans éducations, je les ai souvent trouvé dérangeant, lourd et impolis !
D'accord pour la première partie. Mais la 2ème partie en gras 😮😮😮😮. Que la jeunesse intelligente en France parle de remettre en question le système de consommation, en étant bien au chaud dans la maison de papa/maman, avec un ordinateur, internet, un téléphone, une voiture, les placards plein de bouffe, des vêtements pour l'été, l'hiver, la mi-saison, là je suis d'accord. Pendant ce temps, l'ado philippin, à 16 ans, prend son sac avec 1 jean et 3 T-shirt et va chercher du boulot. Et il envoie une bonne partie de son "salaire" à ses parents pour que ses frères et sœurs aient à manger et puissent aller à l'école. J'avoue qu'il pense un peu moins à remettre en question la société de consommation...
Ca aussi c'est assez cliché !, quand à la misère elle n'est pas une excuse à la connerie !
Le philippins me fait penser à la France, des années post-guerre, système de consommation, argent argent argent, aucun soucie de l'écosystème, (et particulièrement aux Philippines) le Rêve Américain !
En tout cas en France on en revient, du tout industriel, du non soucie de l’écosystème, de la conso de masse, du baby Boom à tout vas ! - Bref comme je le disais ... Pas d'intelligence !, juste de la mauvaise Ambition !
Pour en revenir aux philippins (et apparemment à tout habitant du Sud-Est de l'Asie)!
Ce sont des CIGALES, toujours à chanter, danser, boire, se reproduire sans penser aux lendemain ! Et quand pépin arrivent, il attende Mr FOURMIS l'occidentale en vacance, pour lui demander/extorquer sont argent !
Tout cela fait sans aucune finesse et sans éducations, je les ai souvent trouvé dérangeant, lourd et impolis !
D'accord pour la première partie. Mais la 2ème partie en gras 😮😮😮😮. Que la jeunesse intelligente en France parle de remettre en question le système de consommation, en étant bien au chaud dans la maison de papa/maman, avec un ordinateur, internet, un téléphone, une voiture, les placards plein de bouffe, des vêtements pour l'été, l'hiver, la mi-saison, là je suis d'accord. Pendant ce temps, l'ado philippin, à 16 ans, prend son sac avec 1 jean et 3 T-shirt et va chercher du boulot. Et il envoie une bonne partie de son "salaire" à ses parents pour que ses frères et sœurs aient à manger et puissent aller à l'école. J'avoue qu'il pense un peu moins à remettre en question la société de consommation...
Ca aussi c'est assez cliché !, quand à la misère elle n'est pas une excuse à la connerie !
Le philippins me fait penser à la France, des années post-guerre, système de consommation, argent argent argent, aucun soucie de l'écosystème, (et particulièrement aux Philippines) le Rêve Américain !
En tout cas en France on en revient, du tout industriel, du non soucie de l’écosystème, de la conso de masse, du baby Boom à tout vas ! - Bref comme je le disais ... Pas d'intelligence !, juste de la mauvaise Ambition !
Et voilà.
En quelques déclarations lapidaires à l'emporte-pièce, la définitive supériorité du mode de vie ( on ne parle pas de culture) occidental est coulé en forme de chose jugée.
On te l'a dit et répété : tu es trop crétin pour comprendre.
Et merde.
Oui des posts ont été supprimés, car un membre choqué par tes insultes à l'égard des habitants des Philippines a annoncé ici qu' il signalait tes messages à la modération. Et toute la suite de la discussion est passée à la trappe.
Dommage d'ailleurs, car ces posts mettaient bien en lumière l' incommensurable abîme de ta non-faculté d' ouverture au monde qui t'entoure.
En quelques déclarations lapidaires à l'emporte-pièce, la définitive supériorité du mode de vie ( on ne parle pas de culture) occidental est coulé en forme de chose jugée.
On te l'a dit et répété : tu es trop crétin pour comprendre.
Et merde.
Oui des posts ont été supprimés, car un membre choqué par tes insultes à l'égard des habitants des Philippines a annoncé ici qu' il signalait tes messages à la modération. Et toute la suite de la discussion est passée à la trappe.
Dommage d'ailleurs, car ces posts mettaient bien en lumière l' incommensurable abîme de ta non-faculté d' ouverture au monde qui t'entoure.
Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux. (Marcel Proust)
"se reproduire sans penser au lendemain"
C'est du délire.....
Vous avez échangé beaucoup sur la prostitution....
C'est sûr, à fréquenter des lieux sordides (bar à filles), vous n'avez qu'une image tronquée des gens et du pays. Et surtout vous avez le revers de la médaille (arnaque en tous genres/filles tarifées....). Vous aviez une "girl friend pilipina", on se demande où et comment vous avez pu la connaître !!!!!! (mais j'ai la réponse)
"apparemment à tout habitant du Sud Est asiatique"
Vous n'avez jamais mis les pieds dans ces pays....(toujours l'amalgame) Ces gens sont bien plus courageux que nous tous car travailler dans les rizières courbé toute la journée ou poser du carrelage sous le cagnard quand il fait 45° à l'ombre et surtout pour trois fois rien.....
"Ce sont des cigales, toujours à chanter, danser, boire...."
C'est ce qui fait le charme des PHILIPPINS (il y a une guitare dans chaque famille). Vous n'avez rien compris!!!!!
Quand vous quittez le pays, on vous porte au cou un collier de sampaguita...
Vous êtes passés à côté...des gens et du pays. Donc toutes vos approximations reflète un état d'esprit nauséabond. De la pure connerie...
C'est sûr, à fréquenter des lieux sordides (bar à filles), vous n'avez qu'une image tronquée des gens et du pays. Et surtout vous avez le revers de la médaille (arnaque en tous genres/filles tarifées....). Vous aviez une "girl friend pilipina", on se demande où et comment vous avez pu la connaître !!!!!! (mais j'ai la réponse)
"apparemment à tout habitant du Sud Est asiatique"
Vous n'avez jamais mis les pieds dans ces pays....(toujours l'amalgame) Ces gens sont bien plus courageux que nous tous car travailler dans les rizières courbé toute la journée ou poser du carrelage sous le cagnard quand il fait 45° à l'ombre et surtout pour trois fois rien.....
"Ce sont des cigales, toujours à chanter, danser, boire...."
C'est ce qui fait le charme des PHILIPPINS (il y a une guitare dans chaque famille). Vous n'avez rien compris!!!!!
Quand vous quittez le pays, on vous porte au cou un collier de sampaguita...
Vous êtes passés à côté...des gens et du pays. Donc toutes vos approximations reflète un état d'esprit nauséabond. De la pure connerie...
Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux. (Marcel Proust)
Baong, comprends-tu cette citation?
Sur le cliché des ados français et philippins, et plus généralement sur tout ce que tu racontes, j'en ai parlé avec mon épouse philipina. Elle m'a simplement répondu "ce n'est pas grave, il n'a peut être pas rencontré les bonnes personnes aux Philippines".
Mon épouse te salue, Baong, d'une façon sans finesse ni éducation(s!), en te priant de l'excuser d'être dérangeante, lourde et impolie(s!). Et elle souhaite également que, si tu voyages de nouveau aux Philippines, cela se passe mieux. Et tu sais quoi? Elle est sincère.
Baong, comprends-tu cette citation?
Sur le cliché des ados français et philippins, et plus généralement sur tout ce que tu racontes, j'en ai parlé avec mon épouse philipina. Elle m'a simplement répondu "ce n'est pas grave, il n'a peut être pas rencontré les bonnes personnes aux Philippines".
Mon épouse te salue, Baong, d'une façon sans finesse ni éducation(s!), en te priant de l'excuser d'être dérangeante, lourde et impolie(s!). Et elle souhaite également que, si tu voyages de nouveau aux Philippines, cela se passe mieux. Et tu sais quoi? Elle est sincère.
C'est moi ou certains posts ont sautés ?, en tout cas mon dernier il a sauter c'est sûr ...
La bêtise et l'étroitesse d'esprit ne sont pas un délit, sinon tous tes messages auraient disparu. Mais la violence verbale raciste, fascisante et sexiste...si. J'ai signalé au modérateur le message particulièrement nauséabond où tu tiens de tels propos ; les autres, malgré l'état d'esprit borné et irréfléchi qu'ils manifestent, ont le droit d'être exprimés. (Tu as même un supporter apparemment, à moins que ce ne soit du second degré de sa part ? ? ?) 😮😮😮
La bêtise et l'étroitesse d'esprit ne sont pas un délit, sinon tous tes messages auraient disparu. Mais la violence verbale raciste, fascisante et sexiste...si. J'ai signalé au modérateur le message particulièrement nauséabond où tu tiens de tels propos ; les autres, malgré l'état d'esprit borné et irréfléchi qu'ils manifestent, ont le droit d'être exprimés. (Tu as même un supporter apparemment, à moins que ce ne soit du second degré de sa part ? ? ?) 😮😮😮
À l'instant même sur le web asiatique il y a un mec de retour d'un séjour dans le quartier rouge d'Amsterdam qui pensait être attendu comme le messie par toutes les pauvres filles désireuses d'échapper à leur destin pour vivre une vie meilleure à l'autre bout du monde.
Maintenant il explique que les Européennes sont toutes des salopes vénales à l'hygiène douteuse qui mentent comme elles respirent et les mecs tous des tox à l'affût pour tendre des embuscades aux touristes.
Il y a trois sortes d’hommes : les vivants,
les morts, et ceux qui vont sur la mer.
Aristote (parait il)
Bonsoir,
Je ne te dirai qu'une chose: si tu veux être comme à la maison, reste à la maison. La découverte du monde et ses mille richesses ne sont pas faites pour toi.
Les voyages permettent ô combien de découvrir d'autre cultures et de s'enrichir d'elles.
J'aime l'Asie du sud est, et jamais je n'ai eu l'impression de passer pour une" vache à lait"
Bon voyage quand même
iris37
C'est marrant ça, si on dit :
"woua! ct génial, les gens sont géniaux, j'adore la mentalité, ce pays est fantastique"
Tout le monde congratule !
Dans le cas inverse : Tout le monde vous tombe dessus !, vous censure à la chinoise (car OUI la censure est la VRAI Dictature) "T'es trop idiot et fermé d'esprit pour comprendre, et bla et bla"
Allez quand même pour faire plaisir à tout le monde: Une fois j'avais 6p de photocopie à payer, je n'avais qu'un billet de 100p et la bonne femme n'avait pas la monnaie à me Rendre Une Filippina qui attendais son tour, ma payer gracieusement mes 6p (Ps: J'en étais même resté BaBa!)
C'est gens sont vraiment magnifique ! J'ai passé de fabuleuse vacances !
Ps1 : J'ai pas dit que les Français était pas des cons, j'ai juste dis que là bas ct pas mieux voir pire ! Ps2 : L'argent rend parfois ce peuple juste Idiot, Lourd et Incorrecte ! (et sur place je n'étais pas le seul à le penser!)
Dans le cas inverse : Tout le monde vous tombe dessus !, vous censure à la chinoise (car OUI la censure est la VRAI Dictature) "T'es trop idiot et fermé d'esprit pour comprendre, et bla et bla"
Allez quand même pour faire plaisir à tout le monde: Une fois j'avais 6p de photocopie à payer, je n'avais qu'un billet de 100p et la bonne femme n'avait pas la monnaie à me Rendre Une Filippina qui attendais son tour, ma payer gracieusement mes 6p (Ps: J'en étais même resté BaBa!)
C'est gens sont vraiment magnifique ! J'ai passé de fabuleuse vacances !
Ps1 : J'ai pas dit que les Français était pas des cons, j'ai juste dis que là bas ct pas mieux voir pire ! Ps2 : L'argent rend parfois ce peuple juste Idiot, Lourd et Incorrecte ! (et sur place je n'étais pas le seul à le penser!)
Mais la pire censure, c' est celle qu' on s' impose à soi même par un manque d' ouverture et une incapacité à considérer un fait ou un concept du point de vue de l'autre.
Or c'est bien là ton problème.
Et je persiste et signe : oui, tu fais partie de cette minorité que je pensais en voie de disparition qui s'accroche à ses certitudes sans se rendre compte qu'elles sont locales et nullement universelles, et par qui la découverte d' une autre culture est ressentie comme une agression.
On te l'a assez dit : reste dans ton patelin , le monde n'est pas pour toi.
Je suis pas d'accord a 100% avec ce que tu dis sur les moeurs autochtones, par contre je suis d'accord pour dire que la volee de bois vert que tu as recue est un peu limite a mon gout. Ca pourrait etre fait de facon un peu plus legere et moins agressive.
J'espere neanmoins que la prochaine fois que tu te rendras dans un de ces pays en connaissent davantage les us et coutumes, tu sauras en apprecier davantage les bons cotes et moins focaliser sur l'aspect mercantile, malheureusement inevitable.
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soyons désinvoltes, n'ayons l'air de rien.
Je n'aime pas ce genre d'individu qui critique au lieu d'essayer de comprendre !
En relisant, c'est certainement pas moi qui est le plus agressif !
Je fais juste qu'exposer mes idées !
Mes les idées divergentes ici comme en chine ne sont pas Toléré et voir même Censurée !
Only That ! Bye
Un peuple Supra Catholique, Lundi je ment, Mardi j'escroque, Mercredi je m'achète le dernier truc High Tech, Jeudi je me Prostitue, Vendredi je force un étranger à m'acheter quelque chose, Samedi J'essaie de trouver un Pigeon sur Internet, et Dimanche je vais à l'église on ne sait jamais au cas ou le paradis et l'enfer existe après la mort, autant prendre un assurance !
Le philippins est : - Lourd - Attiré par votre argent uniquement - Ment, ment et ment encore (les rois du mensonges) - Le rois de l'embrouille - Ne connait pas l'heure - S'énerve facilement - En cas de pb vous aurait toujours tord, (la police y est corrompu) - Il ne vous dit jamais Non ou qu'il ne sait pas, et préfère vous dire n'importe quoi à la place (parfois ça vous foutra dans la merde, mais ils s'en foutent, après tout vous êtes milliardaire dans leur tête) - N'est pas strict en général, rien n'est organisé tout est bordélique, pas d'idée suivie, aucune rigueur dans leur esprit, c'est toujours bon, puis c'est jamais bon, dans tous les cas c'est : 100% faux plan ! - N'a pas d’éducation, pas de correction, pas fin pour un sous ! (je viens d'un milieu pauvre, la misère n'a rien à voir avec ça) - N'est pas tourné vers l’extérieur, intéressé par rien, si ce n'est qu'en foutre le moins possible, attendre, boire de la bière Red Horse et ce reproduire ! - Est jaloux de vous (n'oubliez pas que vous blanc, vous êtes tous des Victor Newman multimilliardaire)
Tout cela fait sans aucune finesse et sans éducations, je les ai souvent trouvé dérangeant, lourd et impolis !
Bref y'a pas de reflexions, pas d'intelligence, pas de respect, ils ne pensent qu'à eux ! Money, Money, Money ...
De vrai Américains sans le cerveaux qui va avec .... Bref, je déteste !
Ce sont des extraits de tes messages.
Je ne voit pas l'ombre d'une idée. Juste une collection d'insultes.
Si tu es un troll, ben... grandis un peu, évolue et tu comprendras qu'un troll est nocif, sans rien de positif. Si tu n'es pas un troll, je te plains de tout mon cœur.
Mes les idées divergentes ici comme en chine ne sont pas Toléré et voir même Censurée !
Only That ! Bye
Un peuple Supra Catholique, Lundi je ment, Mardi j'escroque, Mercredi je m'achète le dernier truc High Tech, Jeudi je me Prostitue, Vendredi je force un étranger à m'acheter quelque chose, Samedi J'essaie de trouver un Pigeon sur Internet, et Dimanche je vais à l'église on ne sait jamais au cas ou le paradis et l'enfer existe après la mort, autant prendre un assurance !
Le philippins est : - Lourd - Attiré par votre argent uniquement - Ment, ment et ment encore (les rois du mensonges) - Le rois de l'embrouille - Ne connait pas l'heure - S'énerve facilement - En cas de pb vous aurait toujours tord, (la police y est corrompu) - Il ne vous dit jamais Non ou qu'il ne sait pas, et préfère vous dire n'importe quoi à la place (parfois ça vous foutra dans la merde, mais ils s'en foutent, après tout vous êtes milliardaire dans leur tête) - N'est pas strict en général, rien n'est organisé tout est bordélique, pas d'idée suivie, aucune rigueur dans leur esprit, c'est toujours bon, puis c'est jamais bon, dans tous les cas c'est : 100% faux plan ! - N'a pas d’éducation, pas de correction, pas fin pour un sous ! (je viens d'un milieu pauvre, la misère n'a rien à voir avec ça) - N'est pas tourné vers l’extérieur, intéressé par rien, si ce n'est qu'en foutre le moins possible, attendre, boire de la bière Red Horse et ce reproduire ! - Est jaloux de vous (n'oubliez pas que vous blanc, vous êtes tous des Victor Newman multimilliardaire)
Tout cela fait sans aucune finesse et sans éducations, je les ai souvent trouvé dérangeant, lourd et impolis !
Bref y'a pas de reflexions, pas d'intelligence, pas de respect, ils ne pensent qu'à eux ! Money, Money, Money ...
De vrai Américains sans le cerveaux qui va avec .... Bref, je déteste !
Ce sont des extraits de tes messages.
Je ne voit pas l'ombre d'une idée. Juste une collection d'insultes.
Si tu es un troll, ben... grandis un peu, évolue et tu comprendras qu'un troll est nocif, sans rien de positif. Si tu n'es pas un troll, je te plains de tout mon cœur.
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dans quasi tous les pays hors Europe et même dans certains pays Européens l'eau est payante au restaurant
raison simple, l'eau courante n'étant pas saine à boire, on boit de l'eau minerale; en france aussi l'eau minérale est payante
je vois pas ou est le scandale
Pour les taxis, prends en un à paris ou marseille et on verra si tu payeras à chaque fois le même prix lol
Aurtant dans ton premier message il y avait un peu (j'ai bien dit un peu) de vrai; autant là ca devient du n'importe quoi les reproches que tu fais
Pour les taxis, prends en un à paris ou marseille et on verra si tu payeras à chaque fois le même prix lol
Aurtant dans ton premier message il y avait un peu (j'ai bien dit un peu) de vrai; autant là ca devient du n'importe quoi les reproches que tu fais
Lorsque tu ne sais pas où tu vas, regarde d'où tu viens (proverbe Africain)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Pourtant les pires insultes ont été supprimées (j'espérais ainsi que le post s'arrête là et que chacun puisse oublier, mais non ça continue)
et c'est peut-être dommage ; peut-être Baong pourrait-il nous rappeler quelle était sa "pensée" ;
notamment le beau message qui parlait des les Filipinas qui "retournent se faire......encore et encore", et qui dilapident ensuite leur argent et y retournent, et qui étaient qualifiées de "singes" - non, de "plus bêtes encore que le singe" ; ça, c'était vraiment la classe. Non, on ne voit vraiment pas dans ces propos ce qui mérite une telle volée de bois vert.
Disons que tu n as pas reussi a triuver ta place dans le systeme philippin. C est entierement de ta faute . D un cote tu n avais pas besoin de t integrer
pour les autres qui pensent que tout y est merveilleuw que c est un peuple magnifique ils se trompent aussi seule le tauw de change leur permet de se trouver une place dans ce systeme
Il faut bien reconnaitre que les philippins peuventetre tres durs entre euwc nous ne sommes qu en bordure de tout ca
Et je ne me pose pas trop de question et profite a ma maniere de ce nouveau colonialisme en faisant quand meme gaffe a moi
Bises a tous
Sorry mais il y a entre ces deux extrêmes des postions intermédiaires.
Loin de moi l' idée de dire qu'aux Philippines, tout le monde il est beau, tout le monde il est gentil...
C'est clair qu' il y a dans cette société autant de défauts que partout ailleurs, et peut être plus.
Mais ce qui est remarquable ici, c'est la façon dont les gens sont heureux et le montrent malgré la pauvreté, la corruption, les cataclysmes et les touristes à la Baong....CE n'est pas une attitude feinte, ils sont réellement heureux. Et vivent sans stress.... Après un temps d'adaptation, on acquiert en partie la même philosophie.
Et on devient aussi plus heureux.......( mais plus ré-exportable vers l' Europe!)
Comme dirait Baong, " tous les expats à qui j'en ai parlé m' ont dit qu' ils étaient d'accord avec moi"......
Loin de moi l' idée de dire qu'aux Philippines, tout le monde il est beau, tout le monde il est gentil...
C'est clair qu' il y a dans cette société autant de défauts que partout ailleurs, et peut être plus.
Mais ce qui est remarquable ici, c'est la façon dont les gens sont heureux et le montrent malgré la pauvreté, la corruption, les cataclysmes et les touristes à la Baong....CE n'est pas une attitude feinte, ils sont réellement heureux. Et vivent sans stress.... Après un temps d'adaptation, on acquiert en partie la même philosophie.
Et on devient aussi plus heureux.......( mais plus ré-exportable vers l' Europe!)
Comme dirait Baong, " tous les expats à qui j'en ai parlé m' ont dit qu' ils étaient d'accord avec moi"......
Je suis pour l instant en europe et je vois plein de gens hereuw aussi
Personellement je n ai pas ce probleme et pourtant j ai bien vecu en inde en assie du sud est et l australie
Une autre chose qui me deplait c est quand ce qui se sont fait une place auw phil critique la thailande et reciproquement
Etles anti vietnam aussi
Chaque situations demande des effort et de la conprehenssion aussi
ëEh oui dans tous ces pays anciennement colonisés nous ne sommes pas les bienvenus, tout juste tolérés parce que nous venons injecter des devises dans l'économie locale.
de même pour le toubab en Afrique ou le gringo en Amérique du sud.
Alors est ce que ça veut dire qu'on est en droit de vomir 80% de l'humanité?
Non avoir conscience de ça est un pré requis avant de se rendre dans tous ces endroits.sinon on peut vraiment parler de neocolonialisme, ouvre un des livrets destinés à l'époque aux nouveaux arrivants dans les colonies et tu retrouvera exactement les critiques de Baong, tous des feignants, des malhonnêtes etc etc...
On peut critiquer certains aspects de ces pays mais la base culturelle on doit faire avec. Relis les précédents posts de Baong pour te faire une idée du rapport d'égal à égal dans lequel il est parti aux philippines. Je crois que l'accueil qui a été fait à ses critiques est plutôt une bonne chose, si tout le monde le laissait dire tout ça sans réagir c'est là que ça serai grave
Il y a trois sortes d’hommes : les vivants,
les morts, et ceux qui vont sur la mer.
Aristote (parait il)
Tres caricatural aussi cette vision de l europe
De toutes facons, on est dans la caricature depuis le debut...
Quand on fait des generalites sur des populations, difficile de faire autrement.
soyons désinvoltes, n'ayons l'air de rien.
je sais pas , mais quand le matin je passe a la boulangerie c'est plutot sympa tout le monde se parle , plaisante , la boulangere fait son show 😉
j aime bien
je sais pas , mais quand le matin je passe a la boulangerie c'est plutot sympa tout le monde se parle , plaisante , la boulangere fait son show 😉
j aime bien
Ben oui.. Quand je suis en France, je me marre bien au marché aussi avec des commerçants plutôt rigolos, en banlieue parisienne. Et je connais mes voisins. Nous nous rendons même service. Étonnant non ? Et dans le métro à Bangkok, je n'ai pas l'impression que tout le monde se marre du matin au soir. Dans les administrations thaïes non plus... Mais je dois me gourer...
Ben oui.. Quand je suis en France, je me marre bien au marché aussi avec des commerçants plutôt rigolos, en banlieue parisienne. Et je connais mes voisins. Nous nous rendons même service. Étonnant non ? Et dans le métro à Bangkok, je n'ai pas l'impression que tout le monde se marre du matin au soir. Dans les administrations thaïes non plus... Mais je dois me gourer...
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
Je suis d'accord avec vous, dans le métro à bangkok ou à paris, c'est kif kif bouricot
Il y a une différence entre se marrer du matin au soir et avoir une attitude d' ouverture positive et souriante.
Ici non plus, on ne se marre pas du matin au soir. Cela n' empêche que les contacts sociaux sont beaucoup plus spontanés et fréquents. Je ne dis pas qu' en Europe tout le monde tire la gueule en permanence, mais l' individualisme forcené et l' egocentrisme de beaucoup de gens ne favorisent guère la vie sociale......
Ici non plus, on ne se marre pas du matin au soir. Cela n' empêche que les contacts sociaux sont beaucoup plus spontanés et fréquents. Je ne dis pas qu' en Europe tout le monde tire la gueule en permanence, mais l' individualisme forcené et l' egocentrisme de beaucoup de gens ne favorisent guère la vie sociale......
Je suis d'accord avec vous, dans le métro à bangkok ou à paris, c'est kif kif bouricot
Et pourtant a Bangkok il y fait quand meme moins chaud. Dans l'ensemble entre eux ils se font autant la gueule qu'entre Parisiens.
Et pourtant a Bangkok il y fait quand meme moins chaud. Dans l'ensemble entre eux ils se font autant la gueule qu'entre Parisiens.
soyons désinvoltes, n'ayons l'air de rien.
c est plus facile de se positionner en asie ou les societes sont tres structures trouver sa place c'est a dire ton rang social et familial , apres une fois instaler les echanges se font , si tu n avait pas ce capital tu ne serais pas vu de la meme maniere
pour un touriste ils sont consideres comme un gagne pain comme en france pourquoi vouloir se considerer comme un egal ? le gars investit dans sa petite structure si c'est pour vendre de l eau il en vend , tu imagine la marge sur ce business 🙁
le baong a certainement pete les plombs a manille, faut dire que ce n est pas une ville si facile a aborder
les autres qui pensent que tout y est merveilleux que c est un peuple magnifique ....
Il faut bien reconnaitre que les philippins peuvent etre tres durs entre eux
Avec aussi de belles histoires
http://asie-info.fr/2012/09/04/aux-philippines-mobilisation-autour-dun-chien-heros-59007.html 🙂
Avec aussi de belles histoires
http://asie-info.fr/2012/09/04/aux-philippines-mobilisation-autour-dun-chien-heros-59007.html 🙂
oui bien que du même site ....:
http://asie-info.fr/2012/07/14/aux-philippines-aussi-les-chiens-finissent-a-la-casserole-56509.html
http://asie-info.fr/2012/07/14/aux-philippines-aussi-les-chiens-finissent-a-la-casserole-56509.html
c'est la rubrique choien ecrase 😉
Version yin/yang
😏
Il y a une différence entre se marrer du matin au soir et avoir une attitude d' ouverture positive et souriante.
Ici non plus, on ne se marre pas du matin au soir. Cela n' empêche que les contacts sociaux sont beaucoup plus spontanés et fréquents. Je ne dis pas qu' en Europe tout le monde tire la gueule en permanence, mais l' individualisme forcené et l' egocentrisme de beaucoup de gens ne favorisent guère la vie sociale......
Et si tu sourit trop = commisseriat ! Pas inventé, ça vient de sortir: 😏
Une histoire bien singulière dont se souviendra sans doute pendant longtemps Jean R. Alors qu’il se rendait sur son lieu de travail en métro, il a, à plusieurs reprises esquissé plusieurs sourires envers les autres voyageurs de sa rame. Il a par ailleurs été à plusieurs fois aimable avec d’autres voyageurs, n’hésitant pas à laisser son siège à une personne âgée. Jugeant son comportement suspect, plusieurs voyageurs ont averti le service de sécurité de la RATP. L’individu a été appréhendé dans le calme
La suite: http://www.legorafi.fr/...init-en-garde-a-vue/
Ici non plus, on ne se marre pas du matin au soir. Cela n' empêche que les contacts sociaux sont beaucoup plus spontanés et fréquents. Je ne dis pas qu' en Europe tout le monde tire la gueule en permanence, mais l' individualisme forcené et l' egocentrisme de beaucoup de gens ne favorisent guère la vie sociale......
Et si tu sourit trop = commisseriat ! Pas inventé, ça vient de sortir: 😏
Une histoire bien singulière dont se souviendra sans doute pendant longtemps Jean R. Alors qu’il se rendait sur son lieu de travail en métro, il a, à plusieurs reprises esquissé plusieurs sourires envers les autres voyageurs de sa rame. Il a par ailleurs été à plusieurs fois aimable avec d’autres voyageurs, n’hésitant pas à laisser son siège à une personne âgée. Jugeant son comportement suspect, plusieurs voyageurs ont averti le service de sécurité de la RATP. L’individu a été appréhendé dans le calme
La suite: http://www.legorafi.fr/...init-en-garde-a-vue/
Ca dépend ou tu vis en europe l'ami; comme de partout l'ambiance n'est pas la même entre petites et grandes villes; mais c'est pareil aux philippines
là ou je vis en france, les gens sont globalement sympa, gentils et pas plus fermés qu'ailleurs pour peu que nous aussi on fasse l'effort de s'intégrer
aux philippines c pareil; c bien plus relax à siquijor qu' manille ou cebu et c'est logique^^
ce que j'aime par contre des villes asiatiques, c'est que ça vit 24/24; ce qui n'est pas le cas en france
aux philippines c pareil; c bien plus relax à siquijor qu' manille ou cebu et c'est logique^^
ce que j'aime par contre des villes asiatiques, c'est que ça vit 24/24; ce qui n'est pas le cas en france
Lorsque tu ne sais pas où tu vas, regarde d'où tu viens (proverbe Africain)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
C'est à peine exagéré....
Un petit Hoax de temps en temps, ca detend quand même les muscles du visage
🙂
Un petit Hoax de temps en temps, ca detend quand même les muscles du visage
🙂
Ce n'est pas vraiment un hoax puisque tout ce site est consacré à la fausse info!
Une petite fausse info de temps en temps, ca detend quand même les muscles du visage; non ?
Une petite fausse info de temps en temps, ca detend quand même les muscles du visage; non ?
Les peuples des pays chauds sont timides comme les vieillards le sont ceux des pays froids sont courageux comme le sont les jeunes gens. […] nous sentons bien que les peuples du nord, transportés dans les pays du midi, n'y ont pas fait d'aussi belles actions que leurs compatriotes qui, combattant dans leur propre climat, y jouissent de tout leur courage. […] Vous trouverez dans les climats du nord des peuples qui ont peu de vices, assez de vertus, beaucoup de sincérité et de franchise. Approchez des pays du midi vous croirez vous éloigner de la morale même des passions plus vives multiplient les crimes […] La chaleur du climat peut être si excessive que le corps y sera absolument sans force. Pour lors l'abattement passera à l'esprit même : aucune curiosité, aucune noble entreprise, aucun sentiment généreux les inclinations y seront toutes passives la paresse y sera le bonheur
Si seulement tu exprimais ton avis ainsi, je pense qu'on t'écouterait plus et qu'on se moquerait moins de toi. Seulement, le fond et la forme sont liés. Et au vu de la forme... Le fond ne vaut pas mieux. Retourne à l'école, va t'instruire, apprends à écrire, trouve quel auteur est d'accord avec toi mais l'exprime mieux, et ensuite on pourra parler d'expression des opinions et des "jugements de valeur" :)
Si seulement tu exprimais ton avis ainsi, je pense qu'on t'écouterait plus et qu'on se moquerait moins de toi. Seulement, le fond et la forme sont liés. Et au vu de la forme... Le fond ne vaut pas mieux. Retourne à l'école, va t'instruire, apprends à écrire, trouve quel auteur est d'accord avec toi mais l'exprime mieux, et ensuite on pourra parler d'expression des opinions et des "jugements de valeur" :)
sommes-nous-seuls-sur-terre.com
Encore un post qui essaye de faire un Buzz ! Si la mentalité des gens ne vous plaît pas , restez chez vous et cela fera le plus grand bien à tout le monde ! lorsque vous voyagez , vous êtes l'hôte d'un pays , alors acceptez les US et coutumes de ce pays , sinon regardez les chiffres et les lettes à la tèlè et imaginez être plus intelligent que la moyenne ! sans des touristes de votre accabit, ces pays vivraient beaucoup mieux !!
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Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.

