Choix de destination pour un safari
by Cagnon
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
cela semble tout de même plus compliqué qu'en Afrique du sud ou en Namibie !
Coûteux principalement...🤪
Et moins facile effectivement ! 😉
(Obligation d'avoir un 4X4)
Coûteux principalement...🤪
Et moins facile effectivement ! 😉
(Obligation d'avoir un 4X4)
Bonsoir,
je ne connais pas l'afrique du sud, mais organiser un safari au kenya ou en tanzanie avec un TO local est super simple.
cordialement
(guerlais)
Bonjour
Nous revenons d'un grand voyage en afrique australe voici quelques remarques si cela peu vous aider .
Safari : Kruger ***** Etosha *** zambie *
De loin le Kruger est le plus interessant vraiment Nombre d'especes rencontrées (epoustouflant) Quantites d'animaux par especes (fénoménal) Qualité des acces *** Qualité des camps ***** en particulier Olifants a des prix tres tres abordables Etosha : beaucoup moins d'animaux et de variete ; Couchages moyens prix eleves
Botswana : Parcs vers VFA peu d'animaux sauf elephants . Attention si vous allez aux chutes il faut voir les 2 cotés (ZImbabwe et Zambie) mais pour la Zambie il faut la fievre jaune bien que à la frontiere on ne nous a pas controlé . Botswan, Zambie, Zimbabwe sont des pays chers AFS tres abordable
L'avion : Quand vous partez d'europe pour l'afrique il n'y a pas vraiement de difference entre Kenya et AFS par exemple . Nous on a voyage de nuit alors 2 heures de = ou de -
A votre dispo pour photos ( a 5 metres de 15 lions de nuit) a 4 metres de 2 guepard pour une promenade au coucher du soleil ..... ceci avec un guide local bien sur
Et surtout bon voyage .
Nous revenons d'un grand voyage en afrique australe voici quelques remarques si cela peu vous aider .
Safari : Kruger ***** Etosha *** zambie *
De loin le Kruger est le plus interessant vraiment Nombre d'especes rencontrées (epoustouflant) Quantites d'animaux par especes (fénoménal) Qualité des acces *** Qualité des camps ***** en particulier Olifants a des prix tres tres abordables Etosha : beaucoup moins d'animaux et de variete ; Couchages moyens prix eleves
Botswana : Parcs vers VFA peu d'animaux sauf elephants . Attention si vous allez aux chutes il faut voir les 2 cotés (ZImbabwe et Zambie) mais pour la Zambie il faut la fievre jaune bien que à la frontiere on ne nous a pas controlé . Botswan, Zambie, Zimbabwe sont des pays chers AFS tres abordable
L'avion : Quand vous partez d'europe pour l'afrique il n'y a pas vraiement de difference entre Kenya et AFS par exemple . Nous on a voyage de nuit alors 2 heures de = ou de -
A votre dispo pour photos ( a 5 metres de 15 lions de nuit) a 4 metres de 2 guepard pour une promenade au coucher du soleil ..... ceci avec un guide local bien sur
Et surtout bon voyage .
CS
Et pourquoi pas l'Afrique du Sud?
Bonjour
Je suis guide sud-africain et nous sommes basés à Durban, Cape Town et Windhoek.
Merci quand même pour votre offre!
Cordialement - Mark
Bonjour
Il faut vous faire très attention à la douane, ils oublient de porter le visa sur le passeport. C' est toujours dans la poche ... mais problème à la sortie du Pays.
De plus pour la Tanzanie il faut payer le visa au Kenya puis en Tanzanie et à nouveau au Kenya, il faut le savoir c' est un racket que tout le monde cautionne.
Cela dit en Tanzanie c' est mieux.
Bonjour Stéphanie
Je n'ai l'expérience ni du Kenya ni de la Tanzanie, mais pour être allé 2 fois en Namibie, au Botswana et en Afrique du sud,
je te conseillerais le Botswana. J'avais loué un 4x4 avec tente sur le toit et hop en route dans les réserves (Chobe, Okavago...).
Dormir sur son toit avec des éléphants qui passent à coté, c'est un souvenir extraordinaire. On tutoie les animaux (avec bien sur une distance à respecter) et les Botswanais sont très sympas avec les touristes. A faire d'urgence.
bonjour ma seule expérience est le kénya tsavo est, parti de belgique en ayant préparer mon safari de 3 jours d'ici-google et autres forums avec pour base un séjour hôtel tout compris, donc guide français prise en charge à l'hôtel avec tout inclus dedans transport logement etc.......
j'ai effectué mes vaccins car plus en ordre mon dernier voyage en Afrique datait de 2000+-, si je doit cité un pays ou tu te sent en insécurité ce sera bien pour le kénya-mombasa où de toute façon on te déconseille de t'y aventurer tout seul mais bon de magnifiques souvenirs photos et autres de mon périple, j'ai un lien de mon blog photo mais je ne sait pas si je peut l'insérer.....au pire celui qui veut en mp, j'aurais bien voulu le masaï mais bon hors budget et je suis parti à la va vite
bonjour,
Avec retard je fais quelques commentaires. Concernant la Tanzanie, nous l'avons fait avec nouvelles frontières, cela à été super! Beaucoup de bestioles( dont les 5 big five). Excellent guide, parlant un très bon français et 4x4 parfait. JE vous conseille de finir part Zanzibar, plages et hôtels magnifiques, sans oublier de passer au moins 2 nuits à Ston town pour l'ambiance, les saveurs et les couleurs et pour "chiner".
Concernant le Botswana et plus précisément " le delta", c'est très beau mais beaucoup plus cher ( du fait que l'on se déplace assez souvent en petit avion pour aller d'un lodge à l'autre).Nous n'avons fait que des parc privés (4) et avons été déçu du manques "de bestioles" par rapport à la Tanzanie. Ceci étant, les gens sont supers et les lodges sont dans des sites magnifiques.
Autre Pays d'un grand intérêt; La Namibie. C'est grandiose, mais là aussi vu beaucoup moins de" bestioles" qu'en Tanzanie.
A votre disposition. Patrick
Avec retard je fais quelques commentaires. Concernant la Tanzanie, nous l'avons fait avec nouvelles frontières, cela à été super! Beaucoup de bestioles( dont les 5 big five). Excellent guide, parlant un très bon français et 4x4 parfait. JE vous conseille de finir part Zanzibar, plages et hôtels magnifiques, sans oublier de passer au moins 2 nuits à Ston town pour l'ambiance, les saveurs et les couleurs et pour "chiner".
Concernant le Botswana et plus précisément " le delta", c'est très beau mais beaucoup plus cher ( du fait que l'on se déplace assez souvent en petit avion pour aller d'un lodge à l'autre).Nous n'avons fait que des parc privés (4) et avons été déçu du manques "de bestioles" par rapport à la Tanzanie. Ceci étant, les gens sont supers et les lodges sont dans des sites magnifiques.
Autre Pays d'un grand intérêt; La Namibie. C'est grandiose, mais là aussi vu beaucoup moins de" bestioles" qu'en Tanzanie.
A votre disposition. Patrick
bonjour
Nous revenons de 4 semaines en namibie (octobre , novembre ).Nous avons vu tous les animaux ou presque car il nous manque guépard et léopard
Ce voyage nous a couté cher 5800 euros pour deux en individuel avec 4x4 et camping tous les jours
Le mieux serait d' écarter les chutes victoria, cette visite étant cher et les chute a un tiers seulement de leur longueur a cette époque , mais il faut tout de même pousser jusqu'a mohango pour voir hippo et croco et profiter du trés agréable bord de l'okavongo
A autre économie possible louer une voiture de tourisme au lieu d'un 4x4 , ça passe a étosha mais limite un peu le reste des visites du pays et complique la possibilité de camping + matos de bouffe +bagage.Attention aussi car les voitures souffrent terriblement et la caution j'imagine doit souvent vous passer sous le nez (j'imagine , je n'en sais rien )
Bien choisir son loueur , nous nous sommes aperçu que nous avions payé un peu cher notre 4x4 par rapport a d'autre touriste .Nous n'avions pas la tente sur le toit et c'est bien dommage aussi car ceci aurait pu nous permetre de camper hors campement bien plus facilement et donc la aussi de faire des économies, quoique ceux ci coute plus cher a la location sauf a partir de trois personnes
Ce pays a l'avantage d'offrir d'autres merveilles que le safari
-les himbas et zembas
-twyfelftein
-une piste fantastique a descendre sur cap cross
-les otaries de cape cross
-les dunes de sesfontein
-quelques campement vraiment trés agréable
dom r
Bonsoir,
Je reviens d'un voyage de 11 semaines des pays cités dans la discussion et partage ici mon expérience.
Le vaccin est une assurance, à chacun d'évaluer le risque en plus de l'obligation administrative. Je peux avoir une dispense mais j'ai choisi d'être vacciné et de prendre des pilules anti-malaria dans des régions à risque élevé. Mais c'est un long voyage, je n'étais pas vacciné lors des courts séjours en Amazonie. Aucune autorité m'a demandé le carnet de vacination pendant le voyage.
Eviter de voyager pendant la saison de pluie à moins que vous aimiez des aventures - les chauffeurs doivent prendre des routes alternatives donc encore plus longues, et dans certains cas, il faudrait traverser des ponts piétoniers et d'autres 4x4 vous amènent dans les lodges - attente, etc...
Les safaris sont un don de la nature - les guides sérieux ne vous assurent que le beau paysage - quant aux aminaux - furtifs - léopard par exemple - ce sera la pure chance. Mais certainement, vous auriez des rencontres intéressants.
Les guides-chauffeurs sont très éduqués - beaucoup étaient des enseignants - nos deux guides-chauffeurs en Tanzanie se parlaient en français pour le pratiquer.
Planifier bien vos vols - surtout certaines destinations directes ne s'offrent que 2 fois par semaine. J'ai dû rester 2 nuits de plus à Naroibi - et si l'on fait attention le soir - il n'y a pas plus de problème qu'ailleurs.
Oui c'est cher en Afrique - surtout dans les lodges - mais on est au milieu de nulle part, tout doit être apporté. Ce voyage m'a coûté assez cher - mais je n'ai pas du tout regretter.
Lequel de ces 3 pays - N'importe lequel, vous ne seriez pas déçu, il y a peu de différence entre les structures d'accueil aux touristes au Kenya et en Tanzanie selon mon expérience très limitée.
La descente en raft sur le Zambezi, le vol en montgolfière au dessus de Sarengeti ... sont parmi les moments forts; le masai surveillant son bétail dans la savane tout en parlant au téléphone cellulaire est un spectacle amusant; et enfin la lutte pour la survie partout de la majorité de la population est ...
Bon voyage
Le vaccin est une assurance, à chacun d'évaluer le risque en plus de l'obligation administrative. Je peux avoir une dispense mais j'ai choisi d'être vacciné et de prendre des pilules anti-malaria dans des régions à risque élevé. Mais c'est un long voyage, je n'étais pas vacciné lors des courts séjours en Amazonie. Aucune autorité m'a demandé le carnet de vacination pendant le voyage.
Eviter de voyager pendant la saison de pluie à moins que vous aimiez des aventures - les chauffeurs doivent prendre des routes alternatives donc encore plus longues, et dans certains cas, il faudrait traverser des ponts piétoniers et d'autres 4x4 vous amènent dans les lodges - attente, etc...
Les safaris sont un don de la nature - les guides sérieux ne vous assurent que le beau paysage - quant aux aminaux - furtifs - léopard par exemple - ce sera la pure chance. Mais certainement, vous auriez des rencontres intéressants.
Les guides-chauffeurs sont très éduqués - beaucoup étaient des enseignants - nos deux guides-chauffeurs en Tanzanie se parlaient en français pour le pratiquer.
Planifier bien vos vols - surtout certaines destinations directes ne s'offrent que 2 fois par semaine. J'ai dû rester 2 nuits de plus à Naroibi - et si l'on fait attention le soir - il n'y a pas plus de problème qu'ailleurs.
Oui c'est cher en Afrique - surtout dans les lodges - mais on est au milieu de nulle part, tout doit être apporté. Ce voyage m'a coûté assez cher - mais je n'ai pas du tout regretter.
Lequel de ces 3 pays - N'importe lequel, vous ne seriez pas déçu, il y a peu de différence entre les structures d'accueil aux touristes au Kenya et en Tanzanie selon mon expérience très limitée.
La descente en raft sur le Zambezi, le vol en montgolfière au dessus de Sarengeti ... sont parmi les moments forts; le masai surveillant son bétail dans la savane tout en parlant au téléphone cellulaire est un spectacle amusant; et enfin la lutte pour la survie partout de la majorité de la population est ...
Bon voyage
Bonjour,
et pourquoi pas la Namibie?
Avantages:
moins chers que le Botswana Parc Etosha - Damaraland avec les animaux Reste du pays juste superbe Facile à faire en self drive Pas de vaccins Possibilité de campement - lodge a des prix divers encore moins touristique que le Kenia Plus authentique et plus sauvage que l'Afrique du sud (moins fréquenté aussi) Vol direct au départ de Francfort...
et des tonnes d'autres avantages qui en deviennent des souvenirs inoubliables....
Bon voyage
et pourquoi pas la Namibie?
Avantages:
moins chers que le Botswana Parc Etosha - Damaraland avec les animaux Reste du pays juste superbe Facile à faire en self drive Pas de vaccins Possibilité de campement - lodge a des prix divers encore moins touristique que le Kenia Plus authentique et plus sauvage que l'Afrique du sud (moins fréquenté aussi) Vol direct au départ de Francfort...
et des tonnes d'autres avantages qui en deviennent des souvenirs inoubliables....
Bon voyage
Liz
Oups j'arrive tard... 😊
Avez-vous pensé au Kgalagadi en Afrique du Sud ?
parc semi désertique jouxtant la Namibie et le Botwana et où on est sûr de voir Léopards et Guépards.
A part ça, tous les parcs mentionnés valent le voyage, avec une préférence pour la Tanzanie (Serengeti, Manyara Tarengire, Ngongoro)
A part ça, tous les parcs mentionnés valent le voyage, avec une préférence pour la Tanzanie (Serengeti, Manyara Tarengire, Ngongoro)
On ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur.
L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux... Le Petit Prince
https://safrounet.ch/2018/04/08/kgalagadi-novembre-decembre-2017-du-11-11-au-16-11-2017/
On y était cet été , Masai , Samburu ascension du mt Kenya et Tanzanie pour l'ascension du Kili, et franchement je ne me souviens pas d'avoir croisé des minibus pendant les safaris. Mais parfois, il faut bien le dire, une quinzaine de voitures à observer un léopard...Les guides communiquent entre eux pour signaler les spots , donc inévitablement, il ne faut plus s'attendre à être seuls sur les lieux !
De mon côté je serais bien intéressée par la Namibie, l'Afrique Australe en général...
« Voyager rend modeste. Vous voyez quelle petite place vous occupez dans le monde. » - Gustave Flaubert
https://www.myatlas.com/anneclaire95
Bonsoir,
Le gros atout du Botswana est son caractère sauvage: 40% de sa surface est protégé et contrairement à la RSA, il n'y a pas de clôtures ! Par ailleurs, dans les concessions privées de l'okavango par exemple, le nombre de véhicules est limité à 3 par camp. Autrement dit: "you and the bush" 😉 Mais cela a un prix effectivement...(choix -assez récent- du pays d'organiser un tourisme élitiste mais avec peu d'impact négatif sur le milieu, plutôt que tourisme de masse à prix plus bas mais avec impact nettement supérieur...-
Le gros atout du Botswana est son caractère sauvage: 40% de sa surface est protégé et contrairement à la RSA, il n'y a pas de clôtures ! Par ailleurs, dans les concessions privées de l'okavango par exemple, le nombre de véhicules est limité à 3 par camp. Autrement dit: "you and the bush" 😉 Mais cela a un prix effectivement...(choix -assez récent- du pays d'organiser un tourisme élitiste mais avec peu d'impact négatif sur le milieu, plutôt que tourisme de masse à prix plus bas mais avec impact nettement supérieur...-
PM
Le Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park n'est clôturé que du côté Sud-Africain, comme son nom l'indique il est ouvert sur la Namibie et le Botswana. C'est d'ailleurs un excellent point de départ pour ces deux destinations.
On ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur.
L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux... Le Petit Prince
https://safrounet.ch/2018/04/08/kgalagadi-novembre-decembre-2017-du-11-11-au-16-11-2017/
Bonsoir Cgnon, vous dites avoir fait un safari en Afrique du Sud, mais vous parlez d'un sentiment mitigé...
Pourriez vous en énoncer les raisons svp? Ça m'intéresserait. Car apparemment le tarif peut être + intéressant qu'au Kenya et en Tanzanie, et la destination est moins courante non ? Plus de choses à voir aussi non ?
Merci pour votre réponse ou celles d'autres amateurs.
bonjour,
sauf erreur, j'ai pas entendu parler de la namibie... pourtant c'est un pays superbe et notament le parc d'etocha, bcp d'animaux a voir avec une voiture de loc ... il y a deux zone pour reserver un bungalo et meme camper... ou louer un 4x4 equipé de tente de toit , mais il y a bcp de chose a voir et a faire en namibie et que de lumiere et d'endemie
pas besoin de tour operator! vol windoeck via johannesbourg, location car hire reservation lodge sur internet ....il y a des français receptif pour eventuelement organiser l'autotour
pour ma part le kenya ...c'est tourist...pour y avor ete 5 ou 6 fois , c'est bien si l'on a pas vu d'autre chose !!!
si vous avez du temps il est possible de faire namibie , bande de caprivi et delta de l'okavango en autotours au depart de joh...
bonne vacances
pour ma part le kenya ...c'est tourist...pour y avor ete 5 ou 6 fois , c'est bien si l'on a pas vu d'autre chose !!!
si vous avez du temps il est possible de faire namibie , bande de caprivi et delta de l'okavango en autotours au depart de joh...
bonne vacances
Bonjour,
Nous hésitons sur prochaine destination pour faire un SAFARI
Voici comment nous voyons les choses et nos intérrogations , merci de nous dire si on se trompe:
KENYA: - pays à risque depuis attentats?? - pays à risque pour la fièvre jaune?? nous ne pouvons pas faire ce vaccin car contre indication médicale. Vaccin obligatoire pour autorités ET/OU par réel risque de maladie - possibilité d'avoir raner francophone?? - A voir: masai mara , amboseli, tsavo, mont kenya et meru
Le réel avantage que nous voyons pour ce pays (outre le safari en lui meme) c'est que c pas trop aussi contraignant au niveau nombre d'heure d'avion en comparaison par ex au Botswana et pareillement au niveau du prix si on le compare à ce dernier pays.
TANZANIE: - Vaccin fievre obligatoire pas obligatoire sauf si on vient d'un pays à risque ou si on va à zanzibar - possible d'avoir ranger francophone - A voir : serenheti, tarangire, ngonrongoro Arusha manyara
ca commence à se corser au niveau du prix 🤪
BOTSWANA + chutes - pas de vaccin fievre jaune obligatoire - diversité dans la façon de faire le safari: mokoro , bateau , 4x4 , petit avion dessus l'Okavango et helico au dessus des chute - beaucoup d'heures et de changements d'avion
TRES TRES CHER : au moins du 5000 euro par personne si on veut voir les principales choses, NON?? meilleure période : aout pour le delta et à partir de septembre les chutes se "tarissent "
MERCI DE NOUS DIRE SI ON EST DANS LE VRAI
Nous hésitons sur prochaine destination pour faire un SAFARI
Voici comment nous voyons les choses et nos intérrogations , merci de nous dire si on se trompe:
KENYA: - pays à risque depuis attentats?? - pays à risque pour la fièvre jaune?? nous ne pouvons pas faire ce vaccin car contre indication médicale. Vaccin obligatoire pour autorités ET/OU par réel risque de maladie - possibilité d'avoir raner francophone?? - A voir: masai mara , amboseli, tsavo, mont kenya et meru
Le réel avantage que nous voyons pour ce pays (outre le safari en lui meme) c'est que c pas trop aussi contraignant au niveau nombre d'heure d'avion en comparaison par ex au Botswana et pareillement au niveau du prix si on le compare à ce dernier pays.
TANZANIE: - Vaccin fievre obligatoire pas obligatoire sauf si on vient d'un pays à risque ou si on va à zanzibar - possible d'avoir ranger francophone - A voir : serenheti, tarangire, ngonrongoro Arusha manyara
ca commence à se corser au niveau du prix 🤪
BOTSWANA + chutes - pas de vaccin fievre jaune obligatoire - diversité dans la façon de faire le safari: mokoro , bateau , 4x4 , petit avion dessus l'Okavango et helico au dessus des chute - beaucoup d'heures et de changements d'avion
TRES TRES CHER : au moins du 5000 euro par personne si on veut voir les principales choses, NON?? meilleure période : aout pour le delta et à partir de septembre les chutes se "tarissent "
MERCI DE NOUS DIRE SI ON EST DANS LE VRAI
Bonjour,
Notre expérience de juillet-août 2013 : Afrique du sud, Namibie, Botswana et de là excursion d'une journée aux chutes Victoria. Le tout en voiture classique de location ( pas de 4*4), la petite tente dans le coffre et auberge de jeunesse, tente safari et lodge ( à prix raisonnable de temps en temps) ou logement chez l'habitant. Voyage inoubliable (dépaysement, paysages superbes, animaux en nombre) et aucun problème sanitaire ou de sécurité. Le tout à notre rythme, sans réservation et d'une grande simplicité avec des coûts reduits (par rapport aux safaris organisés).
Pour plus de renseignements, n'hésitez pas à me contacter.
Bonne préparation et bon et beau voyage.
Isabelle
Bonjour
Dans votre liste manque l'Afrique du Sud et ses magnifiques parcs pour l'observation de la faune africaine, notamment l'emblématique parc du Kruger, facile a parcourir car vous pouvez les visiter avec propre véhicule de location. Et nettement moins cher que le Botswana par exemple voire la Tanzanie.
Pour plus d'informations, voici un article sur les safaris au Kruger http://www.lafriquedusud.com/quand-visiter-le-parc-kruger/
En tous cas je vous souhaite un excellent voyage
Stephane
Dans votre liste manque l'Afrique du Sud et ses magnifiques parcs pour l'observation de la faune africaine, notamment l'emblématique parc du Kruger, facile a parcourir car vous pouvez les visiter avec propre véhicule de location. Et nettement moins cher que le Botswana par exemple voire la Tanzanie.
Pour plus d'informations, voici un article sur les safaris au Kruger http://www.lafriquedusud.com/quand-visiter-le-parc-kruger/
En tous cas je vous souhaite un excellent voyage
Stephane
C'est vrai hélas pour les petits camps (unfenced camps), 4 bungalows = 8 personnes (sauf KTC, une dizaine de tentes), pour les camps dits "normaux", il y a pas mal de bungalows/chalets et on peut même camper, là en 2-3 mois on doit pouvoir trouver de la place.
Dans le Kruger, au sud, il y a vraiment trop de monde = embouteillage jusqu'à 30-50 voitures pour un Léopard ou une troupe de Lions, par contre le nord (à partir de Letaba, voir éventuellement Satara)... un vrai régal...
PS je viens de finaliser, ce matin, une réservation de 4 semaines dans le Kgalagadi, pour octobre/novembre 2014, la plus part dans les petits camps 😎
Dans le Kruger, au sud, il y a vraiment trop de monde = embouteillage jusqu'à 30-50 voitures pour un Léopard ou une troupe de Lions, par contre le nord (à partir de Letaba, voir éventuellement Satara)... un vrai régal...
PS je viens de finaliser, ce matin, une réservation de 4 semaines dans le Kgalagadi, pour octobre/novembre 2014, la plus part dans les petits camps 😎
On ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur.
L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux... Le Petit Prince
https://safrounet.ch/2018/04/08/kgalagadi-novembre-decembre-2017-du-11-11-au-16-11-2017/
Bonjour,
J'ai arrêté de prendre un médicament - Humira - pendant plusieurs mois pour pouvoir prendre le vaccin de la fièvre jaune, c'est une décision personnelle. J'ai consulté un médecin d'une clinique de voyage - mais en Amérique du Nord, personne ne vous donne un conseil concis - car le risque d'être poursuivi est réel. Même, personne n'ose me dire combien de semaines devrai-je arrêter le médicament avant de pouvoir être vacciné! Dans mon cas, je peux arrêter le traitement presque sans conséquence, c'est pourquoi j'opte pour la vaccination pour ce voyage plus long; j'ai déjà voyagé dans les régions à risque sans être vacciné. Il faut pouvoir voyager le coeur léger; plusieurs personnes en Amérique du Nord sont très malades suite à une piqure d'insectes infectés de virus du Nil! Il faut relativiser !
Marcher avec les lions, éléphants, caresser les lionceaux , plonger en présence des crocodiles... (les humains sont dans les cages), vous pouvez les faire à Victoria Falls, Zim; plusieurs personnes de notre groupe participaient à ces activités, elles ont adoré ! je préférais faire le rafting. J'ai cru apercevoir des affiches annoncant certaines de ces activités du côté de la Zambie - à vérifier.
Avec le visa Single Entry au Kenya, on peut aller dans plusieurs pays limitrophes donc la Tanzanie et retourner au Kenya( Septembre 2013).
Bon voyage
Marcher avec les lions, éléphants, caresser les lionceaux , plonger en présence des crocodiles... (les humains sont dans les cages), vous pouvez les faire à Victoria Falls, Zim; plusieurs personnes de notre groupe participaient à ces activités, elles ont adoré ! je préférais faire le rafting. J'ai cru apercevoir des affiches annoncant certaines de ces activités du côté de la Zambie - à vérifier.
Avec le visa Single Entry au Kenya, on peut aller dans plusieurs pays limitrophes donc la Tanzanie et retourner au Kenya( Septembre 2013).
Bon voyage
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De retour d’un voyage de trois semaines au Kenya en famille (trois enfants de 10, 12 et 15 ans), je souhaitais partager mon expérience. En effet, les forums m’ont été très utiles pour préparer ce voyage, surtout si on souhaite un peu sortir des sentiers battus.
Avant tout, il faut savoir que le Kenya est une super destination avec des habitants très sympas et très accueillants, il nous a été facile de voyager sur place car vous trouvez toujours quelqu’un pour vous renseigner et vous aider.
Dans les trucs pratiques à faire absolument, mais vous le lirez ailleurs, prenez une carte SIM Safaricom à l’arrivée à l’aéroport pour pouvoir payer via M-Pesa (recharge possible par CB via l’application wise) et échanger avec vos interlocuteurs par whatsapp. Cela vous simplifiera vraiment la vie (réservation des trains, bus, entrée dans les parcs, etc) et vous évitera de vous promener avec trop d’espèces sur vous ou de devoir chercher des ATM.
A noter aussi, nous sommes partis les trois premières semaines de juillet et ce n’était pas vraiment la saison touristique.
Il faut également savoir que même si vous voyagez en prenant les transports en commun et des hébergements économiques, cela reste une destination chère car les attractions touristiques sont vite onéreuses, avec des prix souvent plus élevés que ce que vous payerez en France. Mais honnêtement, cela en vaut (le plus souvent !) la peine !
Nous avons débuté notre séjour par 5 jours chez l’habitant. Nous avons été accueillis dans une famille vraiment très sympathique à Loitokitok avec une vue sur le Kilimandjaro depuis l’entrée du jardin (à savoir : en juillet, il est souvent dans la brume !)! pour les trouver, cherchez greenfield Homestay à Loitokitok. C’est une super expérience, surtout avec des enfants ! En plus des transferts, ils nous ont organisé plusieurs sorties avec des personnes du village : randonnée à la frontière tanzanienne, balade en moto sur les contreforts du Kilimandjaro, journée de Safari à Amboseli... Vous pouvez y aller les yeux fermés ! Pour le Safari, c’est Anthony qui nous accompagné (il est anglophone), il est originaire du coin et connait le parc comme sa poche. Je vous le recommande vivement !
Anthony, nous a ensuite conduit jusqu’à Isiolo, une ville au Nord qui commence juste à s’ouvrir au tourisme ! Nous voulions voir le marché aux bestiaux du lundi qui permet de croiser plusieurs ethnies qui viennent sur place pour acheter ou vendre chèvres, moutons et vaches selon le lonely planet. Nous avons été un plutôt déçu et ne recommandons pas. Nous avons également visité la forêt de Ngare Ndare avec une cascade magnifique, une balade très intéressante avec un ranger armé (les éléphants sont nombreux) et un pont suspendu qui permet d’admirer la canopée. Attention, il faut prévenir de sa venue au moins trois jours à l’avance pour être certain qu’un ranger sera disponible pour vous accompagner. Nous avons également fait une deuxième journée de Safari à Samburu. C’est très complémentaire d’Amboseli. Çà vaut vraiment le coût !
Ensuite, nous avons mis le cap sur Naivasha (toujours avec Anthony), nous avions trouvé sur AIrbnb une location (jasmine house) au fischerman camp, un camping que nous avons beaucoup apprécié ! on y croise de nombreux hippopotames, des singes et de magnifiques oiseaux. Là, nous avons pu organiser plusieurs sorties : balade en bateau sur le lac pour voir des oiseaux mais aussi des zèbres et girafes, safari en vélo au parc de Hell’s Gate (le camping est tout proche de l’entrée et loue des vélos) et randonnée au crater lake (départ en bateau du camping) pour marcher au milieu des zèbres, girafes et différentes gazelles… Naivasha est beaucoup plus touristique que Loitokitok ou Isiolo, les activités ne manquent pas.
Enfin, nous avons passé la dernière semaine à Watamu sur la côte. Pour y aller, nous avons pris un bus de nuit ENA Coach de Naivasha à Mombasa, réservé sur le site https://www.travler.africa/ . Ce fut confortable et rapide, par contre, il faut appeler le chauffeur du bus pour convenir avec lui du lieu où il vous récupère, le personnel du restaurant du camping nous a bien aidé sur ce coup ! Puis nous avons pris un uber pour rejoindre Watamu.Nous n'avons pas opté pour un matatu car nous étions chargé.
Watamu est aussi surnommée Little Italy, car il y a de nombreux touristes italiens là-bas. Lorsque nous y étions (troisième semaine de juillet), ce n’était pas encore la haute saison touristique aussi, les plages n’étaient pas nettoyées. Par contre, on a apprécié la douceur de vivre, la facilité à se déplacer et on recommande le centre de sauvetage des tortues marines. C’est très intéressant (surtout avec des enfants) et vous soutiendrez une belle initiative ! Nous avons été plutôt déçus par le parc marin, mais c’est peut être à cause de la saison : il y avait peu de poissons et des méduses qui ont un peu gâché la sortie snorkeling. La visite de la mangrove est aussi à faire.
Pour le retour sur Nairobi, nous avons emprunté le train express de Mombasa à Nairobi. Nous avions réservé nos billets à notre arrivée au Kenya (car le paiement se fait uniquement via MPesa). Le train est fiable et confortable. Nous avons vu de nombreux éléphants sur le trajet.Il faut savoir qu'il y a de nombreux contrôle de sécurité et que nous avons failli ne pas pouvoir monter avec notre opinel...
Si vous avez des questions, n’hésitez pas !
En tous cas, nous avons passé un super séjour, très varié avec de belles rencontres et la magie des safaris !
Hi everyone!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
hi
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
Hi there,
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
Hi there,
Hope the pros are on the lookout!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
Hi there,
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
Hi,
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
hi there
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
Hey everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
hi there
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!